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Hermes
10-23-2012, 09:32 AM
So I wanted a cheap car to use as a DD, ended up finding this sweet 320i for $1600.
1982 320i, 5MT, non-LSD, Opalgrün Metallic, black interior, faded black cloth, diving board bumpers, crappy 13x5.5 turbine alloys, Bosch K-Jetronic (mechanical fuel injection), but...
1 owner, 154k miles, service documented up to 14k miles ago
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stupid 80mph speedo...
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hahaha, period tape deck
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driver's seat is torn and tilt is broken, I'm gonna probably try to find some E30 sport seats because E21 Recaro's are $$$$
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these goodies came with the car, unfortunately the Owner's Manual was missing
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service log
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I've already bought some Castrol 20W-50, Redline 75W90, Mahle oil filter, NGK plugs, brakes and suspension will probably be next. Need this to be reliable, hopefully I don't go overboard on this car.
Ryans323i
10-23-2012, 09:37 AM
Beautiful find. Very jealous! Congrats.
Hermes
10-23-2012, 10:26 AM
thank you, ma'am
GSEN820
10-23-2012, 04:11 PM
Service records are crazy!!!!!! I dont even have receipt for last oil change......Score JP
Oli77
10-23-2012, 04:28 PM
Looks like a collection is starting up. Nice cars!
bcleaver
10-23-2012, 06:56 PM
cool pickup
gr330zhp
10-23-2012, 07:33 PM
Awesome! Love seeing the documentation and old paperwork!
Hermes
10-23-2012, 08:35 PM
Thanks everybody.
Gary, I actually have one of those for my ZHP but I think there's only one mark in it. Too old school for people at the service dept to even think about
Hermes
10-24-2012, 10:42 AM
check this news out...
So I was at Carl's picking up a few things and also picking his brain when I mentioned 5 lug conversion so I can run different selection of wheels. He then took me to the back and showed me a straightened/refinished/powdercoated set of real BBS Mahle's in 15x7, 4x100, E21 offset that he has no use for. He have me a smoking deal, will be back for them soon once other issues are worked out with the car (suspension) and I have money for them and new tires.
Hornung418
10-24-2012, 11:23 AM
Dude, nice find on the wheels!
Needs Euro Bumpers, BBS air dam Zender rear skirt and euro smileys. Interior needs Recaros...desperately. Then an M20 to complete the transformation. Keep the color. it's cool and original.
Body kits are lame unless it's gonna be a GR5 replica...which would be bad ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNtDZmvApw
Because legendary racecar.
Hermes
10-24-2012, 11:43 AM
Justin, you're thinking is very close to mine. It would be that, or...
Motorsport replica
http://dtmfiberwerkz.com/access/images/e21frnt.jpg
but the only reason for that would be prohibitive cost of Euro bumpers and a real BBS front, same goes with Recaro's. If I bought some they would probably go in the 02 anyway. Ian (das boots' son) thinks he may have found some black E30 sport seats for me.
as for a Gr.5 replica... find me a M12/13 to put in it and we'll talk
Hornung418
10-24-2012, 12:00 PM
You gotta make that yourself. I heard you can't even buy them whole, you have to buy the parts lot and assemble it!!
Glad we're on the same page, but for now, drive it for the badass OG it is :)
Hermes
10-24-2012, 12:38 PM
how the hell am I supposed to find that backwards head?
fyi - just left West Marine with $80 of SS nuts, bolts, and washers
johnrando
10-24-2012, 01:13 PM
Pics of said wheels? And, who is Carl?
toddness
10-24-2012, 02:28 PM
I've got a set of black vinyl sports from a 318is I have been holding on to (for something?) that show only minimal wear on the drivers side.
Hermes
10-24-2012, 02:41 PM
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/259510/Mahle715.jpg
Carl Nelson owns La Jolla Independent BMW Repair and Restoration, where I go for 2002 parts all the time. There are always cool cars at his shop.
Todd, I'm definitely interested but let me see what Ian comes up with locally. I would rather not have to deal with shipping something that big. I'll let you know if I want them. Thanks bud
toddness
10-24-2012, 02:50 PM
There is a lot of e30 parts activity on r3vlimited.com - if you weren't aware. While the classified forum offers a lot, the SoCal (and NorCal) general chat forums seem to have a lot more postings than the classified section for those of us on the West coast. I hope I am not in violation of any rules for propping another forum.
Hermes
12-21-2013, 09:19 PM
Since I am currently working on my car I decided it was time to update this thread.
Progress since I bought it:
AFE drop in filter, some new vacuum lines to replace the rock hard ones, new radiator cap (stock opposed to the nasty parts store one on the car when I bought it), ATE Super Blue
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LED bulbs for the instrument cluster
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120mph speedo from an early E21 and orange needles, unfortunately I had to go back to my 85mph one because early cars had a 3.64 diff and it reads wrong with my 3.91 :(
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E30 sport seats. I didn't run them for long because I was gangsta leaning. I sold them to my buddy because his eta has blue vinyl interior and he can't find a set of blue sport seats anywhere
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pre-86 ///M steering wheel from an E24
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picked up a euro plate in the opposite colors to my 70s/80s blue/yellow plate
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swapped my 320i turbines for 320is BBS's
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AC delete started, partial center console, and swapped Carl my early ///M wheel for a 320is sport wheel so I could have the right wheel and he can have a spare for his 1985 ///M538i
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Carl found a working antenna in his pile of stuff, so I no longer had to have one that was stuck permanently up
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Picked up some parts for a stereo upgrade, hidden stuff will be more modern but the head unit is a sweet 1991 Alpine pull out deck. Not gonna use the a/d/s/ 2 channel, but will use the Alpine 4 channel amp. I have yet to install these as I've been waiting to do rear strut brace with battery relocate first.
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Plastidipped my window trim, but I didn't like it so I peeled it off
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pulled off my front diving board, it was step 1 of the long term plan
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Bilstein's & 2nd gen Suspension Technique springs
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finally bought and refinished the Mahle's I mentioned last October
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wired my rear fogs as extra brake lamps
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E12 chrome door handles, they match my polished lips and chrome window trim better ;)
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I had taken the E30 seats out last summer and put the stock seats back in. I think it was late August when I found the Recaro's for the 2002 so I took the 911 seats out of that and put them in the 320
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pulled off the front fogs (better aero) and went to autocross. Took 2nd in 4cyl class
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ordered a NOS windshield
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found a W123 diesel at the junkyard and picked up the Bosch fogs, now both 3er's have yellow inner beams
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step 2 of the front end plan, pre-facelift Euro front valence Carl gave me w/lip spoiler I found on a '78 at the junkyard the same day as the yellow lights
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Hella H4 low beam conversion and made a license plate bracket so it sits on the side and doesn't block my radiator
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I also picked up a spare set of headlight frames from the junkyard that I prepped and painted, I will put the H4's and H1's in those and install but first I need to bake the H1's and paint the reflector yellow
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Finally, I located the missing pieces of the non-AC center console
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I have now reached the point of my current project and will explain that in my next post
Hermes
12-21-2013, 10:22 PM
It began with occasional starting issues, so I decided to replace my starter. That was the plan...
pulled her into the garage
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shop supervisor making sure everything is going fine
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pulled the battery and airbox, began labeling wires, then I decided that I should do my cooling system that I've been putting off at the same time...
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Pulled the condenser so my AC delete was finally finished. I'll order an electric fan so I can wire it in as a supplementary one, not gonna use that one because it's small and heavy
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finding vacuum leaks and terrible hoses that need replacement
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apparently some mechanic over the last 30 years decided to be lazy and not find the correct size bolts
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took me a few days but I finally got the starter out
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cleaned the screen on the warm up regulator
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I hate exhaust gas recirculation systems...
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The bowl was easy enough to clean, the insides of the AFM took nearly a whole can of carb cleaner and I think there's still some junk in it. Will try some more tomorrow
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Throttle body was easy enough to clean
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Pulled the intake manifold and injectors off
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My alternator bracket broke and needs replacement, already picked one up
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Unfortunately it seems one of the bracket bolts decided to break off into the block... this is gonna be a PITA to get out. I'll deal with it tomorrow
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johnrando
12-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Just wow.
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Hermes
12-22-2013, 10:39 PM
Yeah, lots of stuff going on in here.
I forgot to mention on my update post that I also installed an E21 LSD.
Avetiso
12-22-2013, 10:57 PM
Good luck with the bolt.
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Hermes
12-23-2013, 12:00 AM
Thanks bud, I didn't have time today so I'll try to do it tomorrow
Johnmadd
12-23-2013, 05:46 AM
Good stuff JP!
alexandre
12-23-2013, 05:53 AM
I had an OFHG bolt snap on me in the block when I did the job. Thank god these are low-torque and I had a enough clearance for a drill. Good luck extracting it.
brettbimmer
12-23-2013, 08:59 AM
Nice progress with her JP. Great to see you making headway!
Hermes
12-23-2013, 10:26 AM
Thanks guys, just trying to get it reliable enough until I get around to a 6 cyl swap. Maybe next year
Avetiso
12-23-2013, 10:41 AM
Gotta say, great thing about CA is that weather is rarely, if ever, cause for delay of a project. Usually, anything I want to do car-related can be done year round. It's awesome. What are your plans over winter for it?
Hermes
12-24-2013, 04:39 PM
New (old) all metal radiator from a 77 arrived today, will drop it off to get re-cored in a few days. I will never have to worry about heat cycles with plastic end caps again!
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Newjack
12-24-2013, 06:45 PM
Fantastic work JP! This was awesome to read.
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Hermes
12-24-2013, 07:28 PM
Thanks bud!
Hermes
01-01-2014, 05:49 PM
Finally...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/0F44A9FA-4446-44F3-86C8-93F5101206EE.jpg
In case any of you need to get a broken bolt out spend the money on this kit, well worth it in my opinion. I broke 4 of the shitty Harbor Freight LHD bits before I gave up on them and spent the money on quality bits
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/AB0A3AD8-269D-460C-AAD5-525442AF5A45.jpg
Also, make sure to get mechanic's length as the 'normal' ones may possibly be too short for all applications you will need them for
Avetiso
01-01-2014, 06:03 PM
Nice. My brother just broke a bolt in his suspension on his civic, going to be using something similar.
Hermes
01-04-2014, 04:18 PM
Yesterday I picked up my re-cored radiator. I now have a racing core in a stock housing. If I need to swap in a expansion tank style radiator when I do the engine swap I can just use this for the 2002
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/E03215CB-8040-4379-A401-AC4045A5BF99.jpg
Hermes
01-06-2014, 06:22 PM
My buddy called me today to let me know he had some stuff in that I've been asking him about, so I went to his shop to pick them up
E28 manual seat e-brake surround
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/83E4574B-271E-49FB-950A-0A1341310FB1.jpg
Correct glovebox flashlight
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...but he neglected to tell me he had an E21 in, I just happened to see it in the corner. It happened to be an is so I grabbed the interior!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/A836A73E-11DC-420B-9B6B-0A13DCC1C67D.jpg
Hornung418
01-06-2014, 06:44 PM
Sweet update!
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toddness
01-06-2014, 09:10 PM
just loving your efforts and scores!
Hermes
01-06-2014, 09:30 PM
Thanks guys! The seats are in ok shape, I need to find some new straps for the seat bottom and 4 of the tilt levers as all of mine are either missing or about to break. I think Varco has spares so I'll call him tomorrow. At least I didn't have to spend $1k on Recaro's from him, but just $28 for the levers and $40 for straps
in case anybody else has Recaro's they need parts for: Aardvarc Racing (http://www.2002parts.com/bmw/recaro-seat-parts.html)
johnrando
01-07-2014, 08:20 AM
Looking good! Those are nice seats.
Hermes
01-07-2014, 08:53 AM
Thanks John!
Hermes
01-07-2014, 10:09 AM
Ordered straps and tilt knobs today, $85 after tax and shipping
I'm really enjoying your project ... it takes me back to one of my most beloved BMWs: a gray-market E21 I imported back in the mid-80s. My '81 323i came from Switzerland, via a dealer I already knew. When traded in there it needed a new head so I arranged for a new Hartge head/cam to be installed before shipping it to the US. One of the most balanced cars I've ever owned. You'll enjoy yours, I'm sure.
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb440/GSP51/GSP1981BMW323iRoyOak2.jpg
Hermes
01-07-2014, 11:51 AM
Nice 323! Is that a Zender spoiler you had on it? I'm definitely going to put a 6 cylinder in at some point, but still debating which engine. Although I know M20 is the easy choice because that's what the 323 had, I really don't want an iron block engine. I'm thinking probably M52B28 all alloy from a 97-99 Z3, but possibly a M54. Honestly I would prefer a non-VANOS engine but they all have iron blocks
Thanks ... and yes, it was a Zender rear lip. In addition it also had Bilstein/springs/bars, 14" replica Style 32s (15s were way too $$ back then!), a Recaro drivers seat (which I kept when I sold the car - nope, its not for sale), Stahl header, LSD (OEM, though built up to a 40% lock from the standard 25%), and an Alpina auxiliary fuel tank . "Stupid" is the only word for my decision to sell it.
As to which Six to use I'd only say that with the M20 this car had Perfect Balance ... consider that when you're investigating the choices. Others might make it quicker but .... . If I were to replicate this car I'd stay with the M20 but it'd be balanced, have a sweet head/cam/valves, lightweight flywheel, and more up-to-date fuel injection than the E21 had. Having driven a couple of other 323s back in the day I can say that the Hartge head/cam is what really woke this car up, though without the better breathing header it would have suffered.
http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb440/GSP51/GSP1981BMW323iRoyOak1.jpg
Hermes
01-08-2014, 10:55 AM
Beautiful car! Do I see the stops for headlight wipers (can't actually see the wipers)? I'm currently running Bilstein struts/shocks w/Suspension Technique springs and bars (25mm front/19mm rear).
I know what you're saying about the M20 being the great fit, especially if you upgrade to Motronic vs Jetronic, but my main issues are:
1 - iron block vs alloy block
2 - SOHC/12 valve vs DOHC/24 valve
3 - weight distribution due to that heavy lump in front. It's already nose heavy with the M10, M20 won't help anything in that regards.
I have a friend here in town with a 1978 320 w/M50B25 (he bought it that way, he would've done a different swap) and it's a beast at autocross. We keep planning together what we are going to do with our cars. His is gutted and on coilovers, while mine is still a daily so our goals are not exactly the same but many things are shared between what we want to accomplish.
The main problem is what can I legally accomplish in with the Air Resources Board hovering over my shoulder. Whatever I decide to do I have to swap everything from the air filter to the tailpipe to comply with the car that the engine is coming from. I will then be required to pass smog for whatever car the engine is from (so if I decide to go the Z3 route, I will have to pass smog for a 97-99 Z3).
Main problem is weight. M20 short engine weighs 117kg dry, M52 alloy version weighs 118kg dry.
dressed engines on the other hand weigh quite a bit more
M20 - 180kg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/Drew325iS/M20weighIn.jpg
M52 alloy - 149kg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d63/Drew325iS/M52weigh_in.jpg
mine would actually weigh less because I would delete the AC and power steering, so maybe 130-140 kg?
The problem I see with the M20 is how much will it cost me to build and engine with comparable performance on top of the fact that it weighs more. With the M52 I can swap in S52 parts to get bigger displacement for cheap, M20 is much more expensive to match power levels.
Anyways, this is all still in the planning stages. Right now I just need to put my car back together and drive it some more.
EDIT: M10 is around 85kg, so nothing else is gonna be that light :(
...maybe a M42/M44 but I want more cylinders
Hmmm... complicated issues. Certainly more complicated than I had to deal with back then! But I'm afraid that I'm utterly unfamiliar with ARB issues.
Have you driven an E30-M20 or an E30-M52? If not then that's where to start. But drive it the way you'll use yours. Power solves alot of problems in an autocross setting - but only if you're a genuinely competent driver, since (usually) the car's limits are higher than the driver's. On the other hand for a DD the extra power in the lower RPMs would be fun - and actually practical! Either way good luck with the project ... I'll be enjoying it along with you.
Oh, and yes, my car did have headlight wipers ... until I removed 'em - too much hassle.
Hermes
01-08-2014, 11:37 AM
Thanks! Yeah, the California Air Resource Board is a huge pain to deal with. Even after I do all my swap I have to take it to a "referee" to then approve my swap before I'm given what they call a BAR tag basically stating that it's a legal swap.
I have in fact driven many M20 E30's, specifically I love my buddy's 2.7 stroker
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QiZM1N3z-P8/Ulm-pKa6fVI/AAAAAAAAYdE/M9lM0GhAolo/w1190-h796-no/LG_DSC_2421.jpg
His car is pushing around 200hp, but his engine probably cost him over $4k to build. The M52 comes out of the box at 189hp and I can probably make that difference up significantly cheaper
I've never driven a M52 E30, but Ryan's car approximates it close enough I think.
My thinking is the extra power will be nice at autocross, but mainly it will help just driving around town. I'm currently getting 27mpg and hopefully with that much extra power in such a light shell (around 2300lbs) I can be easy on the gas and get into the 30-40mpg range
Hermes
01-08-2014, 06:27 PM
Well, I have come to the conclusion that the original owner must have rear ended somebody over his 30 year period with the car. Decided to pull the hood off and do some persuasion to the core support
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/C05B3176-0A67-4B30-9BB9-441CD7BC8D82.jpg
You just need the right tools and anything is possible
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BBE67F9F-78C6-42C9-AE6E-68C7351CDACB.jpg
derbo
01-08-2014, 06:34 PM
Brute persuasion seem to fair well all the time :)
Hermes
01-09-2014, 10:53 AM
So Matt and I did some brainstorming last night and have come up with an idea for solving out terrible suspension/low strength diff/general driveline stuff.
E28 rear and and E36 front end swap. We're thinking about using a 3.25 medium case LSD rated at 440 ft/lbs vs our current small case 3.91 at 240 ft/lbs.
He already has a ZF 5 speed from an E36 M3 in his '78 M50 non-VANOS swapped car, but we're thinking of maybe doing a Getrag 420G 6 speed (368 ft/lbs)... but supposedly can handle more torque than that
Hermes
01-10-2014, 08:50 PM
Today while I was at work I had my brother pick up the rest of the stuff I bought from that 320is which I got the Recaro's from (surprisingly I managed to get both Recaro's and the rear bench IN my ZHP, thank you folding rear seats!)
Replacement carpet - mine is tore up in a few spots, this one may be dirty but at least has no rips. I'll start shampooing it tomorrow
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5A59A3F2-A90C-4AA6-A38A-B1EB1A5CD154.jpg
Door cards to match the Recaro's (will have to clean those up too)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/49960B79-392F-49F2-A5FC-EA0331E4109D.jpg
Large tool kit to replace my small one
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/166D9908-AEAF-446B-B663-A2FBFEE76FD6.jpg
After I took that pic I realized only the spark plug wrench fits correctly, I'll order the correct tools
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/6E7FE053-2CE8-439F-9285-44B2D5F62F28.jpg
Tools and new foam cost $167 from ECS, I'll call Carl and see if he has any in stock at his shop since he gives me way better pricing
I now have all the 320is items with the exception of the front lip spoiler and leather shift boot which I don't want. I have Recaro's, 3 spoke sport steering wheel, large tool kit, front and rear swaybars (mine are actually Suspension Technique oversized bars), but most importantly a 3.91 LSD!
I have also made a deal for a Zender 1.170.03.3 trunk lip spoiler!
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/jjgbmw323/09%20Car%20Shows/PIC-0222.jpg
I have a friend attempting to find me the BBS front lip spoiler, Euro bumpers, Euro turn signals, and the filler plate between the taillights in order to basically have the full M-Tech kit!
http://www.bmwe21.net/E21_editionM.jpg
...well technically I am supposed to use the BBS 21.11.002 spoiler but the Zender one looks almost exactly the same. I am also supposed to have body colored mirrors, but that's easy enough to deal with.
johnrando
01-10-2014, 09:43 PM
:like
JP - Nice updates! I had the opportunity to compare the Zender and BBS lips back in the day; you won't be disappointed with the Zender. The Euro bumpers make a huge difference, aesthetically and weight-wise. I'll poke around and see if I have any leftover stuff, but don't hold your breath.
Hermes
01-12-2014, 01:45 PM
Thanks guys!
well my original plan of merely replacing my starter is a distant memory
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F776AFB5-5DD9-4561-88AA-7AAF3D7E1A83.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/4762AF7B-5438-4B08-9721-7D686B7924E4.jpg
I'll update some more later, need to get back to the car
ELCID86
01-12-2014, 01:51 PM
What the heck!?! Go for it (I guess you already are!)
Hermes
01-17-2014, 10:29 AM
So I pulled up the carpet, pulled the sound deadening foam
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/7D673D3C-8756-4AAD-9B6D-FB653EA7B779.jpg
Began removal of the tar shit (super annoying)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/54E496BD-10DE-4EBB-9773-E2CC6887D728.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/98419A5B-FC6E-4B6E-901F-A4E32D82DAE8.jpg
Finally got that done last night
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/1CE10A42-531F-423E-BE33-09927B4641BF.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/C27BCA20-C94C-4E80-BDF1-A113959F3E95.jpg
I'll be prepping this with a layer of Rustoleum to be safe, then this stuff will be installed
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BA067993-3EAD-4FC2-AB26-101404744C3A.jpg
johnrando
01-17-2014, 11:03 AM
Good stuff.
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PirateZHP
01-17-2014, 02:28 PM
Awesome, JP
Hermes
01-17-2014, 04:38 PM
Thanks!
Hermes
01-18-2014, 10:35 PM
Today I finished cleanup of the interior
Got rid of all the surface rust
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/6A6CEDF6-CAE4-4AF5-88DE-30E956DC218E.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/DF7A58D1-F676-494A-87E8-39912F6E907D.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5E582A61-8FFD-4C55-A7D8-72F85C45758D.jpg
Then came Krylon Rust Tough Enamel
primer
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/54C265A7-144B-424A-896A-FCED496651F4.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BC98725E-4F93-4C22-B2DF-8BD8B1DF378F.jpg
1st layer of paint
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/0FD9AE15-40A0-4490-9163-CFF0610D46C7.jpg
I'm gonna let it sit for an hour before I spray another layer, then I'll start with the sound deadening
Avetiso
01-18-2014, 11:16 PM
Nice work, JP! Looks much better.
Hermes
01-18-2014, 11:24 PM
Thanks bud!
Right now I'm sealing these back up before I spray another layer of paint
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/EACED6C0-8D18-4581-98D5-6A85BE840213.jpg
And in case anybody wants to buy some, this is by far the best RTV around
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/8BD8539C-A7AE-45B1-A6A7-046A3A99214C.jpg
Just go to your local Toyota dealer and ask for that pn
Avetiso
01-19-2014, 01:25 AM
What's special about it?
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kayger12
01-19-2014, 04:20 AM
This is such a great thread. Looking good, Jp.
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cakM3
01-19-2014, 05:54 AM
Awesome progress JP!!! Can't wait to see more :)
johnrando
01-19-2014, 07:22 AM
Plus one
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brettbimmer
01-19-2014, 10:20 AM
JP, really looks great. When are you opening up your BMW restoration shop? :p
Hermes
01-19-2014, 10:53 AM
Thanks guys!
Dario, it's a special formulation of Permatex made for Toyota. I've never had any issues with it so I keep using it. Basically years ago I needed to do something with RTV and Carl told me that's the only stuff he uses. If after 40 years of working on BMW's he decided on this it's good enough for me.
Brett, soon my friend. Do you need some work done on your ti? ;)
derbo
01-19-2014, 11:13 AM
Looking good JP! Modern BMWs have too much wiring underneath the carpet..
Hermes
01-19-2014, 11:36 AM
Thanks Derek! I still need to wire in my stereo so there will be some more going in there before the carpet is installed
brettbimmer
01-20-2014, 09:11 AM
Thanks guys!
Brett, soon my friend. Do you need some work done on your ti? ;)
Haha, it's an older BMW JP, so they ALL need work! :rofl Keep up the good work with your fleet.
Hermes
01-20-2014, 12:04 PM
Haha, it's an older BMW JP, so they ALL need work! :rofl Keep up the good work with your fleet.
True, but that M4x is probably as much if not more bulletproof than my M10. Plus, you have 16v DOHC!
brettbimmer
01-20-2014, 06:02 PM
True, but that M4x is probably as much if not more bulletproof than my M10. Plus, you have 16v DOHC!
Haha, well ironically it normally isn't the M44 engine which needs attention, just all of the other bits that bolt to it. Also it is part E36, so that means that the interior keeps me busy too.
I'm enjoying your project threads bud. Keep up the Bimmer love!
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Hermes
01-21-2014, 11:26 AM
yesterday I picked up some random parts I needed
non-cracked grills (mine had some slight issues, replacing because I might as well do it now)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F69C33D2-7C1C-40FB-872E-CC5F412F61E9.jpg
NOS VW K-Jetronic braided fuel lines to replace those nasty 30+ year old plastic ones BMW used (got them cheap since nobody buys them, they were at a local VW shop)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/28F06196-880B-434F-8A50-642122BCF49E.jpg
E30 M10 8 blade fan w/clutch to replace my 5 blade static fan
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/DBDC4C1D-8261-43D1-8620-EBAEB5A2CAFB.jpg
same 400mm size
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/960435F1-59FD-4E05-827C-904F56F49149.jpg
If any 2002 guys on here want my 5 blade fan to replace their 4 blade one let me know, otherwise I would definitely recommend the E30 wp/fan upgrade as you free up some horsepower at RPM's when the clutch disconnects and the fan spins freely
Hornung418
01-21-2014, 03:30 PM
Is that red fan some kind of defective one? No way that thing is balanced properly...the angles are completely wrong LOL!!
Hermes
01-21-2014, 03:49 PM
Hahaha, 1970s tech bro...
Made with crayons and a slide rule while drinking beer ;)
Hornung418
01-21-2014, 05:03 PM
So it's really crooked and not an illusion? That's ridiculous.
Sent from my GS3.
Hermes
01-21-2014, 05:23 PM
So it's really crooked and not an illusion? That's ridiculous.
Sent from my GS3.
It's fine, that's actually well designed for the tech available at the time. Here's a Mercedes patent that explains it better:
The unequal spacing angles minimize noise produced by the fan assembly. The blades are positioned at a radial location along a blade span by unequal setting angles which increase the efficiency of the fan assembly.
US Patent # 5,681,145 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5681145.PN.&OS=PN/5681145&RS=PN/5681145)
Here's a less understandable explanation from Hitachi:
A wheel or rotor with a plurality of blades arranged at irregular or unequal pitch angles circumferentially of a disk, a hub or the like, wherein the characteristic level e.sub.k representative of the order-of-harmonic characteristic of blade pitch is defined by where ##EQU1## Z=a number of blades k=1,2, . . . and n; n.gtoreq.Z .theta..sub.j =the angular position of the tip or root of each blade defined in terms of a central angle subtended at the center of a circle, which is the axis of said wheel or rotor, by an arc extended from a reference point on said circle to said tip or root of each blade on said circle, j=1,2, . . . and Z; and the characteristic level e.sub.k satisfies the following conditions ##EQU2## where e=-13.14 log.sub.10 Z+99.70 k=2,3, . . . n.
US Patent # 4,253,800 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F4253800)
Hornung418
01-21-2014, 05:24 PM
Woah... Never would have guessed it lol.
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Hermes
01-23-2014, 10:53 AM
Dynamat installed
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5A8DB2B1-9BBC-475C-A650-58FE7E1015FD.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/0C6AD77D-2325-49CF-97BA-5EB3EC6554ED.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/8ADC72E9-F444-4728-9C01-7404080F53FA.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/1C74FA32-1B58-4AAD-A9A4-5C53EF101CB7.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/89C02D26-EC9C-4443-A36E-57105E3B26F6.jpg
I need a few more sheets, I should've probably bought the mega pack instead of the bulk pack (72 sq ft vs 36 sq ft). Not sure if I want to buy the bigger pack and use what's left on my 2002, or just stop at a car audio place in town and pick up a few sheets.
Next step is Dynaliner and Dynapad.
brettbimmer
01-23-2014, 12:21 PM
Dynamat looks dynamite! :swiss
johnrando
01-23-2014, 12:40 PM
Nice. Looks like a swarm of bees.
Hermes
01-23-2014, 12:54 PM
Hahahaha, thanks guys!
wertyu78
01-23-2014, 01:11 PM
How am I just now finding this thread? As if my want for an E21 weren't high enough..... now I really am going to hunt one down! Beautiful car. I will buy one before the prices shoot up like E30's.
Hermes
01-23-2014, 01:18 PM
How am I just now finding this thread? As if my want for an E21 weren't high enough..... now I really am going to hunt one down! Beautiful car. I will buy one before the prices shoot up like E30's.
I found one for you, just figure out shipping. It looks to be a real 320is despite what the guy thinks is just a 320i. Also, it doesn't need a camshaft - likely just a broken rocker
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/mau/pts/4282094631.html
Edit: if it is a 320is don't say anything... $300 is the steal of the century. A mere part out for the desirable 320is parts is $1000-1500
wertyu78
01-23-2014, 03:36 PM
I found one for you, just figure out shipping. It looks to be a real 320is despite what the guy thinks is just a 320i. Also, it doesn't need a camshaft - likely just a broken rocker
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/mau/pts/4282094631.html
Edit: if it is a 320is don't say anything... $300 is the steal of the century. A mere part out for the desirable 320is parts is $1000-1500
I wonder what shipping to the east coast would be. Though I'd rather somehow store it in SoCal for when I move there in April.
Hermes
01-23-2014, 04:03 PM
If you can get it to San Diego I have a place to store it for you
Edit: if you are moving here you need to make sure it's a 50 state car and not a 49 state version or it's gonna be a huge PITA to pass emissions. Send me a message and I'll help you out
wertyu78
01-23-2014, 04:28 PM
If you can get it to San Diego I have a place to store it for you
Edit: if you are moving here you need to make sure it's a 50 state car and not a 49 state version or it's gonna be a huge PITA to pass emissions. Send me a message and I'll help you out
That's quite an offer! I appreciate that greatly.
First I have to figure out how I am going to get the ZHP to pass emissions.
Hermes
01-23-2014, 04:30 PM
No problem. ZHP should be fine as long as you haven't done any crazy mods
Hermes
01-24-2014, 12:56 PM
Next layer done. I just need to finish with the carpet and put it back in
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/13DE091C-DEF5-4C73-BC6D-CF20EFBBC075.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/D121FA3A-02BC-4CA4-B950-1E080B86514A.jpg
Backseat reinstalled
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/54333D6B-9133-4262-B085-890268066E5D.jpg
and I dropped off my old school Alpine to be tested, capacitors replaced, but also have all the LED's changed from green to orange
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/04410257-5C87-4CED-BB2F-75C770C77C8C.jpg
johnrando
01-24-2014, 01:50 PM
:like
PirateZHP
01-24-2014, 01:50 PM
Great job, JP!
Hermes
01-24-2014, 02:24 PM
Thanks!
ELCID86
01-24-2014, 02:42 PM
Looking great. I had no idea you could have a HU like that fixed. Where'd you take it?
Thumbs, iPhone, Tapatalk.
Hermes
01-24-2014, 02:47 PM
Looking great. I had no idea you could have a HU like that fixed. Where'd you take it?
These guys are great, Scott told me that he did that same thing with another Alpine once for a customer with an 80s Porsche (even wired in Bluetooth), so I decided to give it a shot. He's testing it and will let me know later today if it's worth fixing it or not
http://www.lajollaaudio.com/
Hornung418
01-25-2014, 07:28 AM
A Porsche w/o a BlauPunkt Radio is sacrilege!
JP the car is looking nice. Will you have added weight or lost weight after the deadening replacement?
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Hermes
01-25-2014, 08:29 AM
Hahaha, so do I have to source one of the shitty period correct BMW radios?
I added 4lbs, but I would've lost weight if I replicated the factory sound deadening. The added weight was the stuff I put under the backseat.
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I replaced the straps on the Recaro's
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/22A30636-351E-4D1A-A42D-A413B94CE436.jpg
Recovered the parcel shelf, but with canvas instead of the carpet style original stuff
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/46CB726D-A551-4BC1-81C9-C2DBEC6E6DBF.jpg
Put 95% of the interior back together
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F131A283-A370-4A34-8DE8-6E159862B455.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F8354BA6-0437-4D27-9D62-26409296A7C0.jpg
danewilson77
01-25-2014, 08:33 AM
Looking good JP.
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ELCID86
01-25-2014, 08:33 AM
Lookin awesome. I know you are psyched!
Hermes
01-25-2014, 08:36 AM
Thanks!
danewilson77
01-25-2014, 08:38 AM
De nada
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toddness
01-25-2014, 09:16 AM
Loving all of it!
cakM3
01-25-2014, 06:24 PM
Awesome job JP! Thanks for sending me a few text pics showing your awesome progress! :thumbsup Amazing work!
Hermes
01-25-2014, 06:50 PM
Thanks gents!
derbo
01-25-2014, 08:22 PM
I love the interior!
Hermes
01-25-2014, 08:35 PM
Thanks Derek! I'm so happy I happened to stop by my buddies shop before anybody else saw that 320is, otherwise he probably would've forgot to tell me about it and it would've been sold
derbo
01-25-2014, 08:44 PM
Wish we could always order cloth in BMW.. the .000001% of us who love it.
Hornung418
01-25-2014, 09:23 PM
Haha the radio comment was funny. My 944 had one. The 928 had the equalizer right on the dash. I loved that.
JP, the car is looking phenomenal.
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Hermes
01-25-2014, 09:28 PM
Derek, I completely agree. If anything the herringbone is a super rare option and I was surprised to even find it. Usually you see either the Recaro's in black or brown vinyl, or a boring cloth.
Justin, thanks! It looks like I'm finally getting around to all the stuff we talked about when I first got the car and didn't want to spend the money on. Hahahaha...
Hornung418
01-25-2014, 09:32 PM
Waiting for the coil over install pics...
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Hermes
01-25-2014, 09:38 PM
Hahaha, that's gonna have to wait until engine swap. The only E21 coilovers worth my time are GAZ out of England and I'm not gonna spend the money to have them shipped here when I plan on ditching the E21 suspension geometry altogether at some point in the future.
I will probably end up having TC Kline make me a custom setup as I will have E36 running gear up front and E28 in the back
Hornung418
01-25-2014, 09:49 PM
E38s came with LSD? That's nice news. Still looking forward to the GAZ install.
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Hermes
01-25-2014, 09:53 PM
Hahaha
Hermes
01-25-2014, 11:09 PM
Painted the throttle bracket
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F1AEE556-9681-41D5-A805-B5D8DE872A71.jpg
I'm thinking about painting my mirrors... maybe just gloss black for now
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/A8ACC44E-2761-4E62-B7EE-3F9AD7608D9F.jpg
Hermes
01-26-2014, 08:45 PM
I think Group 2 box flares might be necessary when I do the motor swap ;)
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/dumbclub/e21-bimmerforums/Bimmerforums-other/ScreenShot2013-05-24at95236AM_zps04b42801.png
Edit: this E30 M3 style box flare looks better!
http://imageshack.com/a/img376/4361/e21m3fc1.jpg
johnrando
01-27-2014, 07:19 AM
:like
cakM3
01-27-2014, 11:22 AM
I think Group 2 box flares might be necessary when I do the motor swap ;)
http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o581/dumbclub/e21-bimmerforums/Bimmerforums-other/ScreenShot2013-05-24at95236AM_zps04b42801.png
JP I saw this and instantly liked it!
:like
Hermes
01-27-2014, 12:09 PM
Thanks guys! I'm definitely favoring the bigger box flares but all this is still coming in the future
derbo
01-27-2014, 12:29 PM
wow, that looks incredible.
I can't find any pics of my old boss' 320i he was planning to boost...besides this ugly pic.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t2KY5glJ40U/TiC3vTA2V2I/AAAAAAAABPw/5AX-7_XOpT4/w2552-h1440-no/2011-07-15_14-56-35_670.jpg
Hermes
01-27-2014, 12:45 PM
wow, that looks incredible.
I can't find any pics of my old boss' 320i he was planning to boost...besides this ugly pic.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t2KY5glJ40U/TiC3vTA2V2I/AAAAAAAABPw/5AX-7_XOpT4/w2552-h1440-no/2011-07-15_14-56-35_670.jpg
Dude... freaking IMSA M12 powered car with Group 5 flares :drool
BTW, that should have a twin cam M12 pushing over 300hp if its the version I think it is (since you say it wasn't boosted)
Edit: Batmobile and E30 are dope as well!
derbo
01-27-2014, 12:47 PM
I'm honestly not sure what the information on that 320i is because I rarely see it. It's usually overshadowed by the 3.0CSL and the E30 M3s and the M1 he has.. Well the M1 usually overshadows everything and I drool over that more than anything. If I recall, there is a motor he was building for boost but I am unsure of the details. The flares you posted reminded me of that car. :drool
edit:
another pic with barely a part of the front fender.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8IEW8PzycB4/Th3_4HKQ9WI/AAAAAAAABOg/UdQ95TcxkbQ/w2150-h1212-no/2011-07-13_13-27-42_567.jpg
328ioc
01-27-2014, 12:54 PM
Omg box flares ftw.
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Hermes
01-27-2014, 01:05 PM
I'm honestly not sure what the information on that 320i is because I rarely see it. It's usually overshadowed by the 3.0CSL and the E30 M3s and the M1 he has.. Well the M1 usually overshadows everything and I drool over that more than anything. If I recall, there is a motor he was building for boost but I am unsure of the details. The flares you posted reminded me of that car. :drool
edit:
another pic with barely a part of the front fender.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8IEW8PzycB4/Th3_4HKQ9WI/AAAAAAAABOg/UdQ95TcxkbQ/w2150-h1212-no/2011-07-13_13-27-42_567.jpg
I actually know where to get a M12/7 - $15,000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd-Oz3o2NHg
fast forward to 0:59 for gorgeous audio, but he does grenade his gearbox after the first few turns :(
The M1's fly by since they are pushing between 700 and 1000 hp depending on NA/FI
http://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bmw320imsaturbo01gk5-1.jpg
some info about the E21's in racing
http://www.bmwe21.net/?page_id=496
derbo
01-27-2014, 01:09 PM
:drool
Basically that project was never ending cause the M1 pro car showed up midway and it got left on the back burner to get the M1 setup..
Hermes
01-27-2014, 07:09 PM
So I got a call from the stereo shop today... all the capacitors are worn out. Apparently Alpine used to have fish oil based caps back in the day that would eventually leak and destroy the board. It actually powered up but the audio quality was garbage. He will be replacing all the capacitors and converting all the lights to orange. He also said there might be a possibility of wiring in a module that tricks the head into thinking a CD changer is installed. This module will allow me to have aux in and Bluetooth functionality from my 23 year old head unit!
Cost will be $300 for capacitor replacement, $175 for light conversion, $275 for module ($750 total). This will cost me more to repair than the head unit cost new!
Well, technically if you count inflation in I'm in the black still. Alpine 7390 was over $600 in 1991, that equates to over $1000 today. If you don't count the "cd changer" module it actually only will cost me $575
Avetiso
01-27-2014, 07:12 PM
So I got a call from the stereo shop today... all the capacitors are worn out. Apparently Alpine used to have fish oil based caps back in the day that would eventually leak and destroy the board. It actually powered up but the audio quality was garbage. He will be replacing all the capacitors and converting all the lights to orange. He also said there might be a possibility of wiring in a module that tricks the head into thinking a CD changer is installed. This module will allow me to have aux in and Bluetooth functionality from my 23 year old head unit!
Cost will be $300 for capacitor replacement, $175 for light conversion, $275 for module ($750 total). This will cost me more to repair than the head unit cost new!
Well, technically if you count inflation in I'm in the black still. Alpine 7390 was over $600 in 1991, that equates to over $1000 today. If you don't count the "cd changer" module it actually only will cost me $575
Dude, find an engineering student who knows amplifiers. He'll fix your stereo for much cheaper and can find you some of the best caps for audio quality. He can do all that other work as well. You'd save a boat load and you'd get a better product in the end.
Hermes
01-27-2014, 07:19 PM
Dude, find an engineering student who knows amplifiers. He'll fix your stereo for much cheaper and can find you some of the best caps for audio quality. He can do all that other work as well. You'd save a boat load and you'd get a better product in the end.
No way, these are too rare to give it to an engineering student to see if he can figure it out for me. This guy is an official Alpine dealer and has been working on these since they were brand new. Sometimes it's worth paying for the quality that you get in the end.
This was the top of the line unit at the time, and in perfect shape mine will be worth more than $1000 to the right buyer... but I'm not selling.
Avetiso
01-27-2014, 07:20 PM
No way, these are too rare to give it to an engineering student to see if he can figure it out for me. This guy is an official Alpine dealer and has been working on these since they were brand new. Sometimes it's worth paying for the quality that you get in the end.
At least have him upgrade the caps? It'd be a shame to waste an opportunity to upgrade.
Hermes
01-27-2014, 07:22 PM
At least have him upgrade the caps? It'd be a shame to waste an opportunity to upgrade.
They are being upgraded, I'm not paying $300 for stock capacitors. He won't even do that. His reputation is for top of the line quality, so that's all he does.
It's like Maaco single stage paint vs top of the line 30 layer paint
Avetiso
01-27-2014, 07:26 PM
They are being upgraded, I'm not paying $300 for stock capacitors. He won't even do that. His reputation is for top of the line quality, so that's all he does.
It's like Maaco single stage paint vs top of the line 30 layer paint
Oh, okay. I thought he was just rebuilding it to stock.
On another note, about that video of the Gruppe 5 320i... what did he do to his gearbox? Didn't exactly see a bad shift... maybe it was hard to see.
Hermes
01-27-2014, 07:27 PM
The syncro's on those early boxes are extremely fragile
derbo
01-27-2014, 08:26 PM
man I can't even imagine how those caps look from back in the day! What kind of capacitors are they putting in?
Hermes
01-27-2014, 08:41 PM
I don't even want to see a pic, but supposedly they weren't too bad looking and didn't mess up the board.
I don't know what caps they put in, I guess I can ask when he calls me in a few days to tell me it's done
derbo
01-27-2014, 08:47 PM
I'm curious. The inner EE in me wants to know haha. Thanks JP.
Hermes
01-27-2014, 09:22 PM
I'll ask them when they call me ;)
cakM3
01-28-2014, 04:26 AM
No way, these are too rare to give it to an engineering student to see if he can figure it out for me. This guy is an official Alpine dealer and has been working on these since they were brand new. Sometimes it's worth paying for the quality that you get in the end.
This was the top of the line unit at the time, and in perfect shape mine will be worth more than $1000 to the right buyer... but I'm not selling.
So true....can't wait to see the results JP! :thumbsup
Hermes
01-28-2014, 08:50 AM
Thanks Charlie!
Well, looks like my E30 water pump/fan idea isn't gonna work. I'll just use the stock fan until I get around to engine swap
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/7286AA29-6CAF-4FE6-924F-FFCE3C9BB8D3.jpg
Hermes
01-28-2014, 03:02 PM
Derek, I asked him today about your question. The stock capacitors were Elna "red sleeve" as he called them. He is replacing them with Panasonic capacitors as supposedly the units of that same time period that had those caps installed have no issues.
Also, the $300 is not only for replacing the caps but also to rebuild the tape deck.
derbo
01-28-2014, 03:44 PM
thats not bad of a price!
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/elna_capacitors.html
They are probably the older version of these. * Red gloss sleeve with gold markings (non-ROHS)
Hermes
03-10-2014, 04:29 PM
Spoiler arrived
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/A1376743-E29C-4DEA-9214-D492EE025237.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/8AAD5478-5BD8-4FB4-93EC-F4CA92AB5295_1.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/A09DB5F5-7CA8-45C2-A380-0C4CBDE58B4B_1.jpg
Bought Top End Performance rear brace/battery box & intake
http://www.racetep.com/zuche21.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/6BE2B565-944F-4A0E-AE0D-43D1F39A6A60.jpg
Bought period Ground Control front brace
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/08FB5C9A-CC26-4267-85AD-1B90F289E373.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/869099BB-238F-4ADC-94EF-4F25CCA7801D.jpg
Bought NOS Koni's, #86-1957 front and #80-2330 rear (should arrive tomorrow, pics later)
;)
derbo
03-10-2014, 11:58 PM
I can't believe it somehow ended up with you anyways! (GC Bar)
Hermes
03-11-2014, 07:12 AM
I can't believe it somehow ended up with you anyways! (GC Bar)
Me too, LOL!
(So everybody understands, this was on CL up by Derek. I sent him a message to see if he would grab and ship it to me, but it sold before the guy responded to him. Seems like it was meant to be mine!)
johnrando
03-11-2014, 08:18 AM
Whoa, nice!
Hermes
03-11-2014, 05:48 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/09123FAC-4E53-41D6-8674-0C9EAEEF3851.jpg
JupiterBMW
03-11-2014, 06:27 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/6BE2B565-944F-4A0E-AE0D-43D1F39A6A60.jpg
Original BMW accessories poster in the background... Showing the strut bar for our car... How do I get you to ship that to me? What's it gonna take?? :biggrin
Oh, car and parts look good too. :thumbsup
Hermes
03-11-2014, 06:42 PM
Original BMW accessories poster in the background... Showing the strut bar for our car... How do I get you to ship that to me? What's it gonna take?? :biggrin
Oh, car and parts look good too. :thumbsup
Not gonna happen :p
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/CCB263F4-255A-4EF5-9712-8AF0EFB449F3-555-00000049D90C3FBB.jpg
I have both parts, and the car in the poster is blue...
Thanks!
JupiterBMW
03-11-2014, 06:44 PM
Not gonna happen :p
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/CCB263F4-255A-4EF5-9712-8AF0EFB449F3-555-00000049D90C3FBB.jpg
I have both parts, and the car in the poster is blue...
Thanks!
Eh, its all lighting... The car is actually alpine white. Maybe your monitor settings are off??
I can haz?? One miiiiillliiiiooooonnn dollars!!!
Hermes
03-11-2014, 06:46 PM
Eh, its all lighting... The car is actually alpine white. Maybe your monitor settings are off??
I can haz?? One miiiiillliiiiooooonnn dollars!!!
I looked up the VIN (it's clear in person), car is Le Mans IIRC
BTW, your buddy has the sister poster with the wheels
gmurphy
03-11-2014, 06:47 PM
Eh, its all lighting... The car is actually alpine white. Maybe your monitor settings are off??
I can haz?? One miiiiillliiiiooooonnn dollars!!!
I'll pay double that :rofl
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JupiterBMW
03-11-2014, 06:50 PM
I looked up the VIN (it's clear in person), car is Le Mans IIRC
BTW, your buddy has the sister poster with the wheels
Yeah, I like the engine one better... And only guys like us would VIN search a poster... :rofl
Hermes
03-11-2014, 06:57 PM
This is my favorite E46 poster I have
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/AFE6FF81-3353-4BE7-9E2E-D9D2F3FA34EB.jpg
JupiterBMW
03-11-2014, 06:59 PM
Then you should definitely send the other one to me.
Hermes
03-11-2014, 07:04 PM
Still not happening, make friends at the dealer and ask to look at their old posters ;)
That reminds me... I need to stop at the dealer soon
Edit: I have >3000 views on a project that is generally considered the bastard child of the marquee, hahahahaha...
328ioc
03-12-2014, 04:11 AM
Edit: I have >3000 views on a project that is generally considered the bastard child of the marquee, hahahahaha...
Because you are actually making it awesome.
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johnrando
03-13-2014, 08:23 AM
That's pretty cool. BTW, since you're not sending it to Joop, you can send the poster to me. :biggrin. I'll definitely stop by the dealer to see what they have, good idea.
cakM3
03-13-2014, 08:37 AM
Still not happening, make friends at the dealer and ask to look at their old posters ;)
I'll have to stop over at my dealers and ask if they have any old E46 posters they want to get rid of......great idea JP! In fact, I'll do just that today after work ;)
gmurphy
03-13-2014, 08:48 AM
I'll have to stop over at my dealers and ask if they have any old E46 posters they want to get rid of......great idea JP! In fact, I'll do just that today after work ;)
Ha I sent my parts guy an email asking the same thing. Hope they find some stuff!
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Hermes
03-14-2014, 06:57 AM
Getting there...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/84E650E1-5445-49F4-8694-0CF86BE22A58.jpg
Hermes
03-17-2014, 06:52 PM
A side conversation regarding my ZHP has helped me complete the tool kit for this car. See the blue polishing cloth from my E32?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/330Ci%20Mysticblau/0E5D97CF-8828-4013-899F-7DBDD04FFD66.jpg
my new to me E21 big tool kit (still no tools yet)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/6E7FE053-2CE8-439F-9285-44B2D5F62F28.jpg
pic of a complete kit (see bottom right)
http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt267/5280JB/M6ToolKit.jpg
My buddy thinks he might have a full set of tools, he's gonna check for me.
I also picked up a pair of strut tubes from my dismantler buddy so I can build my front suspension beforehand and just swap the old school Suspension Technique springs over.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/AFE8B1BD-46BE-4E31-AD3D-E0EA31C71691.jpg
Will disassemble, strip and repaint. After that step I will be installing new hub, new wheel bearings, new rotors, new dust discs, new upper mounts, new spring pads, E21 Koni's, new bump stops, and new dust boots. I will only have to unbolt the other strut tube, transfer the ST springs, and then bolt everything back together.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/033FF6BE-0686-4249-AA39-90E889CB87C3.jpg
New motor mounts
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/06DA744E-7E57-43B4-99ED-EECB58528BF0.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/2A4D4FD9-62F2-41E4-B7F7-0D6A707BF713.jpg
new water pump and hardware
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/D2ADCD5E-5293-4F45-8722-AFA15888AE8E.jpg
new alternator bracket and hardware
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F9D1D816-8159-4DBA-871D-B5FD7322B18C.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/CE4BDD83-D713-4E64-987B-0848FD3C3DA9.jpg
Current progress : cap/rotor/plugs, starter, WUR, WP, coolant pipe, oil filter housing, alternator bracket installed, and test fit of Ground Control Strut brace
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/27BE83F2-893D-458F-9874-68BC33AA82B1.jpg
Still need to do some stuff to get it on the road...
Hornung418
03-17-2014, 06:56 PM
12898
Nice updates, JP!
danewilson77
03-17-2014, 06:58 PM
Apparently the gif master tonight :)
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Hermes
03-17-2014, 07:09 PM
hahahahaha!!!
Thanks! If you couldn't tell yet from my assorted projects, my philosophy is that it's better to do it right than not do it at all.
I really want this to be one of the nicest E21's around as they are the kinda hated bastard child of the 3 series. Everybody just glosses over them and jumps to E30 :(
Time will tell how it turns out, but I think the E21 is gonna be the next car people want to start collecting. If that's the case I will have already horded a bunch of dope old school parts that will just appreciate in value :)
Hornung418
03-17-2014, 07:14 PM
You just provided an opportunity for me to post it. It was from today's earthquake. They were doing the news. That was his initial reaction. It's just too perfect, his charisma is unique.
Hermes
03-18-2014, 10:42 AM
Sourced 323i front calipers
johnrando
03-18-2014, 03:50 PM
Noice!
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derbo
03-19-2014, 08:13 AM
Frankenstein is awesome
Hermes
03-19-2014, 09:19 AM
Thanks gents!
az3579
03-19-2014, 01:30 PM
Sorry JP but if the E30 is already starting to appreciate in value as a collector car but the E21 hasn't yet, I don't think it's going to. lol
Regardless, yours will be one of the nicest ones around when you're done with it.
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Hermes
03-19-2014, 02:20 PM
They actually have started to appreciate, but going from $1000 to $2000 is not as exciting to see as M3's ridiculous prices despite similar percentage increase ;)
Hermes
03-19-2014, 11:10 PM
I'm tired...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/D5FF9172-1CF6-4A07-A190-7D5D0550AB74.png
Hermes
03-21-2014, 10:06 AM
Euro bumpers ;)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/B0BCB3B6-F0B7-43F5-9112-B6C10D3E45B6.jpg
cakM3
03-21-2014, 10:11 AM
creen that rust JP........
Hermes
03-21-2014, 10:21 AM
They'll get rechromed, finding them at a reasonable price was the bigger issue
Hermes
03-22-2014, 11:51 AM
Got the carrying case for my Alpine
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/4D00C6D7-8B37-4C6A-9C73-16DDB2F04409.jpg
derbo
03-22-2014, 03:34 PM
JP,
I just went to GMCC open house this morning and had a brief glance again at my old boss' 320i.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7nFMMu1Yik8/Uy3hlpUuKNI/AAAAAAAAHBY/_iH19i_K_xU/w1264-h1686-no/2014-03-22
I love this one..
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JNIZO8U6RAo/Uy3bbxAOtPI/AAAAAAAAHAs/lt0TLYz_ZnQ/w2248-h1686-no/2014-03-22
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RDKzJYMBqOU/Uy3aNn_j2UI/AAAAAAAAHBo/zXng_EUQ8ws/w2248-h1686-no/IMG_0016.JPG
end photobomb.
Hermes
03-22-2014, 03:46 PM
Are those Ronal's on the turbo?
derbo
03-22-2014, 05:25 PM
Unsure.
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t31.0-8/10003724_10203454555781809_1716208536_o.jpg
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/1973520_10203454556101817_19838029_o.jpg
Hermes
03-22-2014, 05:54 PM
Jesus, I couldn't see in the other pic but those are rare as hell... those look to be the 3 piece magnesium Ronal Racing Turbo's
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3740/12601941244_761f776f4e_b.jpg
Hermes
03-23-2014, 10:58 PM
Decided to clean up the core support before putting it back together. You can see the 'persuading' I had to do in order to make the early euro valence fit.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/66CACD57-903B-4F82-98CC-DBAEE1374AB5.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/8382B019-5690-4ADE-9AD7-E248062D21BD.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/2725E838-C93B-4947-98BB-FCC536BF8D9D.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/144EA9EA-9CFF-4FEB-AAAC-245303B6AEFD.jpg
^lighting provided by E46 AL Bi-Xenon (I was aiming them while the paint dried between coats)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/18C0FD60-B7B6-4E61-A4E8-7253D2371214.jpg
It's fine for now, I just wanted to clean up the surface rust and have some measure of rust prevention until I actually paint the car.
Avetiso
03-24-2014, 05:28 AM
Looks good
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danewilson77
03-24-2014, 07:45 AM
Looks great.
Hermes
03-24-2014, 08:35 AM
Thanks guys!
derbo
03-24-2014, 08:51 AM
Great work JP.
wertyu78
03-24-2014, 07:03 PM
Keep up the good work. I'd love to see the car in person. I'll be in SoCal permanently next month.
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derbo
03-24-2014, 10:49 PM
Time for some donuts with JP! ;)
Hermes
03-24-2014, 11:13 PM
^hahaha... needs more power first (or shittier tires)
Almost done
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/55E8B199-9A11-4835-AF06-80301BC9FFC3.jpg
Edit: rearranged the injector lines, #4 was blocking the mixture adjustment
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/305FA2C8-8B7A-4B7E-9F01-D5B2710BBB09.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BC598D2B-593E-414C-A922-A85DF7D73C95.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/29A7876D-1D01-4843-A27C-6EE8999A6A6A.jpg
better, but not perfect (that's #3)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/DDBEDE16-AE0E-4177-B1BD-F3C9FE873377.jpg
In case you're wondering what the old sticker on the cover over the blower is, it's bolt torquing order
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/DFF20514-C8C2-405E-BCEC-ACDB0CAE2986.jpg
Hermes
03-26-2014, 08:49 AM
She's back...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/FBCD2687-E3E5-44A4-B535-510968214DB9.jpg
PirateZHP
03-26-2014, 10:23 AM
NICE! Looks great!
Hermes
03-26-2014, 11:16 PM
Thanks!
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323i calipers/vented discs
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BAAF3F05-0C8A-485C-B69E-8F289294438D_1.jpg
Passenger mirror delete plate
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/41346C95-CD0C-4E40-AB9B-38111B238923.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5F7F168D-AFE6-46F1-A58C-890EDD51651F.jpg
Hermes
03-28-2014, 07:56 AM
Well, the Zender isn't for E21... it's too wide. I walked up and tested it on the M5, fits perfect. I guess I need to sell it to an E24 or E28 guy
johnrando
03-28-2014, 08:32 AM
Awesome. What's next?
Hermes
03-28-2014, 09:04 AM
I need to find a BBS spoiler I guess
Hermes
04-15-2014, 08:59 PM
Suspension still needs to be done http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5378A78D-F940-46FB-9C52-1038BA07DC97.jpg
New squirter pump
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/09DAF438-0025-48FD-8306-E4F9576F6F47.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F8E719C9-A4B1-4BF6-AE7C-FAB75DD24F1C.jpg
New vapor barrier
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/2C3357F8-EBF9-4B4F-81EF-EB0F2EE09E7C_1.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/7718375D-0A6A-4BB1-8B9D-3DA0DBCF2151_1.jpg
Euro wide angle lens
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/87E9602E-5EB1-41AB-9C45-F43A57A2DDB5.jpg
Passenger mirror delete
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/C77CAA18-7BC8-4B29-9C68-35A0C676043F.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/617969F8-94F4-4B8A-9E46-BCD913564C58.jpg
Drivers side mirror delete
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/E8E2318A-7691-4D01-A1AC-ADA64BA028F5.jpg
Euro turn signals
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/8301E9D5-2D11-489A-9DA7-32FF46E189CB.jpg
328ioc
04-16-2014, 06:48 AM
Pictures don't work.....it says you exceeded your bandwidth. Lol
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Hornung418
04-16-2014, 07:27 AM
Tons of cool updates!!
Hermes
04-16-2014, 08:11 AM
Pictures don't work.....it says you exceeded your bandwidth. Lol
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Yeah, I'm popular apparently. I upgraded to unlimited bandwidth so they should work now
Tons of cool updates!!
Thanks!
328ioc
04-16-2014, 08:12 AM
Yeah, I'm popular apparently. I upgraded to unlimited bandwidth so they should work now
Thanks!
No go yet...and I wanna see! Lol
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Avetiso
04-16-2014, 08:22 AM
Nice, JP! Whipping that car into shape.
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Hermes
04-16-2014, 08:32 AM
No go yet...and I wanna see! Lol
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Clear your cache
Nice, JP! Whipping that car into shape.
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Thanks!
328ioc
04-16-2014, 08:34 AM
Excellence. Car looks great.
I will admit I never really liked E21s till I saw this project.
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Hermes
04-16-2014, 08:58 AM
Excellence. Car looks great.
I will admit I never really liked E21s till I saw this project.
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Thanks!
Most people don't because they look like this:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/P1050726.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/P1050744.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/P1050730.jpg
But I knew its potential...
http://www.bmwe21.net/E21_editionM.jpg
or
http://files.bmwclassic.nl/E21/JPS/jps2.jpg
http://www.bmwe21fansclub.it/public/upload/E21bis/323JPS.jpg
or
http://www.bmwe21fansclub.it/public/upload/E21/320procarAtaant.jpg
http://www.bmwe21fansclub.it/public/upload/E21/320procarAtapost.jpg
http://www.bmwe21fansclub.it/public/upload/E21/320procar3.jpg
328ioc
04-16-2014, 08:59 AM
Yes exactly!!!
You also make me very tempted to buy a project E30.
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Hermes
04-16-2014, 11:05 AM
Turn signals installed
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/4C3DEBC3-8E0B-4A0E-B4E1-D48CF748B248.jpg
gmurphy
04-16-2014, 02:05 PM
Turn signals installed
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/4C3DEBC3-8E0B-4A0E-B4E1-D48CF748B248.jpg
Awesome work! But let's get that US bumper on! It looks so much better. Just kidding.. :) :roundel
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brettbimmer
04-16-2014, 04:16 PM
Looks great JP!
Devlin, any older BMW project car can be pricey. My former E30 project got just a little out of control.
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Hermes
04-16-2014, 10:25 PM
Awesome work! But let's get that US bumper on! It looks so much better. Just kidding.. :) :roundel
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Thanks! I'll pass on the US bumper, it's busy right now doing something else and can't be bothered. Now I just need to find some time to make brackets and order the bolts for the corners...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/774F0A2A-AA95-470D-97A7-E78D7A549F91.jpg
Looks great JP!
Devlin, any older BMW project car can be pricey. My former E30 project got just a little out of control.
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Thanks Brett!
I have to say I totally agree with the comment of how expensive an older Bimmer can be. I have easily spent hundreds of percent more on both old cars than they initially cost me to buy. Spend more at the start for a project where somebody has either got bored or ran out of money, but did it right. Personally I like working from a clean slate so I can modify how I want... but that means more work and $$$ in the long run
Hermes
04-17-2014, 08:42 AM
See, the front bumper has the very important job of holding the tarp down on the 75
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/A3016A86-CDD5-4F5F-8A5E-0234E234CD90.jpg
E46 battery cable
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/D3D86BF4-A145-420C-AD4D-4FD8148BB4F4.jpg
I still need to install the rear brace and weld in a ground point
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/4A673FAF-3D67-45B3-8D28-C02454C884D5.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/EFFDD09B-A094-4517-936C-AFA5EEF13E48.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/213187DB-A668-423A-97EC-423A7707E167.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5FF1D90E-F04D-4A2E-8E22-FF3E7849DB17.jpg
Some pics
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/D0905495-D952-4BC3-BBB6-8C6A63B9298D.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BFE4BB6B-9B5E-4B27-ACAA-B11173FF7E47.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/55D5732E-0BBE-45DD-BB4B-543F1A1095A9.jpg
Hermes
04-18-2014, 06:06 AM
Euro tach finally arrived from Germany
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/7ACFB307-CE0D-421C-BA9A-E8493C24B344.jpg
328ioc
04-18-2014, 06:10 AM
:like
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Hermes
07-09-2014, 09:32 AM
Car wouldn't pass smog, so I have to tinker with it but here are some updates:
Front euro bumper
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/GOPR2435.jpg
Magnaflow muffler, ANSA tip
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/FE6ED5F2-5960-4D15-AC2F-18FAAC35CC37.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/EDD8338A-3A4E-4A42-A140-68C6291F8A70.jpg
Relocated plate, painted lower valence black
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/72CF988F-A144-42EE-BA3B-B693FB11BA9F.jpg
Rear euro bumper
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F7650162-F899-460A-B366-62D15472C862.jpg
323i rear trailing arms complete with disc conversion, rebuilt the calipers
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/ED5C8BBE-F732-4A61-96DA-274B8480ECD5.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/FAE47D30-3ACA-49D5-A92C-68FF5CAF1E84.jpg
BBS front spoiler
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/5E8B2A87-84EC-4104-ADE5-DB43ECDF3826.jpg
heckblende
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/E4137195-5BD9-4B8D-AC02-D9337492F614.jpg
bought the rest of the BBS body kit, should arrive soon so I can get it painted
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/49CAED23-6053-4A58-AD90-86FB7948E97C.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/86F0D528-F35D-43B2-A6EA-8E7FBB612A3C.jpg
323i AFM for when I rebuild it as a 9.3:1 2012cc powerplant, still need to find an E12 throttle body to pair it with
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/CB076C8F-5F7A-4E81-B66D-C737DFD4495E.jpg
Avetiso
07-09-2014, 10:00 AM
Must be a ton of fun sourcing all these parts from different places.
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Hermes
07-09-2014, 10:37 AM
It actually is great, it's part of the game you play when you own old cars. The hunt is very fun!
derbo
07-09-2014, 01:54 PM
It was ridiculous for that rear trunk piece!
Hermes
07-09-2014, 02:16 PM
Yeah, that one was stressful
Hermes
07-09-2014, 08:19 PM
Well, I figured out what's wrong with my afm...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/2F553A09-E052-4473-81F5-489447B92799.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/F1BCCC24-9F4A-4E3E-9DCC-5BB20E3A8399.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/62DC6125-642C-48F1-8D39-2B8E31CE1740.jpg
since one side is broken the arm has shifted and therefore isn't sitting correct. I'll have to see if I can get a new one
edit: this is a Volvo AFM, but to give you an idea of how they work
http://www.k-jet.org/img/articles/diagrams/airflowsensor3.jpg
I need #6
http://www.k-jet.org/img/articles/diagrams/airflowsensor4.jpg
Hermes
07-10-2014, 08:29 AM
Just got a text from Carl, he has a brand new afm for me!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/9A108441-E5B7-4DC4-9EF5-7F04EDEB87C0.jpg
Hermes
07-16-2014, 05:14 PM
Still running funny, will try to adjust the valves. Thinking seriously about converting to E30 L-Jetronic (EFI) so I can be done with all these performance restrictions that come with the E21 setup
Also, today I received the body kit. I assumed it was BBS but it in fact is an old school Zender, not a copy. Not sure what the spoiler is, looks slightly different than is/es
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Hermes
07-17-2014, 08:21 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/8791F4BC-A328-4F05-A1DC-A8199770D361.jpg
Hornung418
07-18-2014, 03:42 AM
Is the bumper supposed to have a dip in it? And what color is everything going to be painted?
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Hermes
07-18-2014, 06:15 AM
No, the bumper is damaged. I have to reshape it but I just haven't had time to play with it. Kit will be painted opalgrun
Hornung418
07-18-2014, 10:03 AM
No, the bumper is damaged. I have to reshape it but I just haven't had time to play with it. Kit will be painted opalgrun
:like
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Hermes
07-28-2014, 05:05 PM
Well, I decided to give up on K-Jet
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/2673BF45-F221-4813-B86B-AD9FE1669F1B.jpg
E30 M10B18 L-Jetronic, from 84-85 318i
I am also going to modify the engine before I install: 2012cc, 284 Schrick, 9.5:1, Volvo MAF and ECU, M50 injectors
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/BB9171FD-25EB-4B42-8BEB-8DE328F6F339.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/93255890-F55B-47AA-B1C3-085DE9B4CD45.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/7AB31B40-617E-4C0E-B3C8-AB7B6A3B6DEB.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/86A938AF-1A80-430F-AF92-124685713F4E.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/144839F5-A165-4537-81B1-42AA7F908159.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/21B12302-4445-4214-8B52-046F07CB9948.jpg
It's not pretty, but I've seen worse
Avetiso
07-28-2014, 06:17 PM
I love how all of these parts from different manufacturers work together.
Hermes
07-28-2014, 06:43 PM
Yeah, but Volvo is the only other company that really works since they also ran Bosch fuel injection with a 4cyl.
The MAF and ECU came from a 1987 740 GLE (8v head), but I theoretically can get the stuff from a 16v car if I wanted to use a S14 head, or I can get the stuff from a 740 Turbo if I wanted to go FI.
I'll just stay with the low key, yet more efficient setup that I am planning. If only I could find a 1975 320 that I can go crazy on :(
Hermes
07-30-2014, 02:01 PM
Found a 318 at the junkyard... engine harness, fuel rail, and some assorted crap (not pictured) = $20
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/FDD2DD29-9D45-467E-820F-6FEE00463F66.jpg
Hornung418
07-30-2014, 02:14 PM
Nice haul!!
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Johnmadd
07-30-2014, 03:44 PM
E30 318is late model?
Johnmadd
07-30-2014, 03:45 PM
E30 318is late model?
If so that is probably the perfect engine for that car :thumbsup
Hermes
07-30-2014, 04:06 PM
No. 84-85 318i. M4x requires quite a bit of work, and I would need approval for the swap. If I'm gonna do that much work I'll wait until I get around to the Z3 M52 swap.
If I wanted a 16v I would rather do this:
14904
...but I don't want to deal with the rebuild costs.
My M10B18 2.0 will have more than enough performance (prob nearly the same as a stock M42) until I buy a Z3 donor and mess around with that engine
Johnmadd
07-30-2014, 04:31 PM
No. 84-85 318i. M4x requires quite a bit of work, and I would need approval for the swap. If I'm gonna do that much work I'll wait until I get around to the Z3 M52 swap.
If I wanted a 16v I would rather do this:
14904
...but I don't want to deal with the rebuild costs.
My M10B18 2.0 will have more than enough performance (prob nearly the same as a stock M42) until I buy a Z3 donor and mess around with that engine
Understood. So no m20 either huh?
Hermes
07-30-2014, 04:36 PM
Nah, M20 is too heavy (and I don't like timing belts). I briefly thought of that since the E21 came with a 2.0 or 2.3 M20 but quickly decided it was not for me.
If you scroll back through the thread you will see pics of M20 vs M52 alloy block on scales. The weight and performance are both in favor of the Z3 engine.
Edit: I briefly thought of using my a S38B38 that my buddy has, but decided that is WAY too heavy
wertyu78
07-30-2014, 07:05 PM
Nah, M20 is too heavy (and I don't like timing belts). I briefly thought of that since the E21 came with a 2.0 or 2.3 M20 but quickly decided it was not for me.
If you scroll back through the thread you will see pics of M20 vs M52 alloy block on scales. The weight and performance are both in favor of the Z3 engine.
Edit: I briefly thought of using my a S38B38 that my buddy has, but decided that is WAY too heavy
K20 w/ K24 bottom end. Done!
Hermes
07-30-2014, 07:36 PM
K20 w/ K24 bottom end. Done!
No VTEC
Edit: I don't really even like VANOS
Hermes
08-22-2014, 02:01 PM
I hate when I see something that makes me want to spend ungodly amounts of money
15228
Maybe after the next smog cycle ;)
cakM3
08-22-2014, 04:38 PM
I hate when I see something that makes me want to spend ungodly amounts of money
15228
Maybe after the next smog cycle ;)
:drool
Hermes
08-25-2014, 02:39 PM
Bought
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Hornung418
08-25-2014, 02:41 PM
Bought
15272
Sealed H4s? Can you get clears for the indicators?
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Hermes
08-25-2014, 03:31 PM
Not sealed, euro 7" H4 w/city lights. I like my ambers, and I will now have 3 sets of euro turn signals
http://www.bbsrszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Green_BMW_E21_Gold_BBS_RS.jpg
Edit:
http://www.bmwe21register.com/bmwimages/772_5.jpg
http://files.bmwclassic.nl/E21/JPS/jps4.jpg
Hornung418
08-25-2014, 09:46 PM
Lol thats the same diameter of the 944 pop ups. I will be upgrading them if I get one. Still waiting for the seller to email...sent three of them!
RE: indicators, did they offer a clear option? Or is that a custom job?
That JPS looks scary. Those rear wheels are massive!
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Hermes
08-25-2014, 10:04 PM
Yeah, 7" is the the standard size for a lot of cars back in the day, 02 is the same.
I have seen clears, but I think it's something that has been produced recently. I don't remember seeing cars with clears in any 80s pictures.
The turbo cars were definitely interesting and I love them for how scary they really are. That JPS car has 16" fronts and 17" rears and boost hit at 5000rpm (actually, that car might have 15" fronts, hard to tell)
derbo
08-25-2014, 10:11 PM
stay amber JP. :)
328ioc
08-26-2014, 05:06 AM
Love it JP.
Love the JPS as well. Probably one of the top 5 liveries.
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Hermes
08-29-2014, 09:14 PM
^Thanks guys.
Headlights arrived today, I'll try to deal with them tomorrow. Gonna try to drive the car to Big SoCal Euro on Sunday. I think I'm just gonna put them in for now as they will work right away as headlights, I will just need to wire up the city lights at some point. I think I'm gonna try to find some SEV Marchal's also but that's gonna be interesting as they have long been gone (the current company with their name is not the same).
I have decided also to finally deal with my speedometer. I have procured another 85 mph one to temporarily use. I will be sending the original one from my car and the pre-facelift 120 mph one I have (but is for a 3.64 diff) to North Hollywood Speedometer to be recalibrated for the pre-facelift face and my different from stock tire/wheel size.
The 85mph one is about 10% optimistic at the moment, but that keeps me out of trouble. This modification will not only allow me to accurately know my speed, but I will actually be able to know speeds over 80 mph (actual) as anything over 80 is usually pegged at the top of the gauge.
Unfortunately for me, Carl actually found on a shelf a brand new 220 kph gauge that I can't use it as it's for a 4.11 diff car. Oh well, my accurate and reconditioned 120 mph 3.91 diff speedo will be more than fine.
johnrando
09-02-2014, 12:07 PM
looks great JP!
Hermes
09-02-2014, 02:11 PM
Thanks John!
I guess I should update:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/320i/280AA1E5-0EDD-4F7C-8EAA-2BDD48D58325.jpg
Johnmadd
09-02-2014, 02:20 PM
:drool
danewilson77
09-02-2014, 04:59 PM
:drool
+1
The friendliest forum on the planet.
Hermes
09-04-2014, 07:12 PM
My plan for this weekend is hopefully doing 323 brake conversion. I merely need to:
*paint strut tubes and trailing arms
*rebuild all 4 wheel bearings
*remove stock struts and trailing arms complete
*take ST springs off current suspension and install onto the new Koni setup
*build Koni/ST suspension including 5/8 degree fixed camber plates up front
*hopefully Koni's are set right because Specials have to be adjusted at full compression
*install everything
*do complete brake job with installation of new hoses, rebuilt calipers, rotors
*install ebrake cables & adjust
*bleed everything
*test and adjust as needed
Hornung418
09-04-2014, 07:29 PM
Busy Friday!
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derbo
09-05-2014, 06:52 AM
Good luck JP. That is one big list! I hate adjusting the dampening on specials. Lol
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