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az3579
05-05-2012, 07:35 PM
I purchased a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires in August 2011 with approximately 108k on the car. At the time of this writing, I have 127k on the car (May 2012), so approximately 19-20k miles have been put on the tires.

In the mean time, the tires have endured the 19k or so of daily driving, in addition to about (2) auto-x days and a track day in April.

The tires are relatively comfortable. As with other all-season tires, they're a harder compound than summer tires, so naturally they will be a little harsher. I am happy to report that these tires are no harsher than any other all seasons I've had (I've only ever had all seasons). When I hit potholes, I don't feel as though the front end is going to fall off; in fact any harshness that's there is caused by my stiffer suspension, not the tires. They are nice and comfortable for cruising on the highway, though minor bumps can be felt. Once again, this may be due to do my stiffer suspension, so take that with a grain of salt.

So far with 20k on them, they are not exhibiting any unusual road noise. Some tires get louder as they wear, but so far I haven't heard anything unusual from them. They are still relatively quiet for cruising. My previous tires, Pirelli PZero Nero All Seasons, were excruciatingly loud as they wore. I can gladly say these tires do not suffer from the same problem.

The wear so far is quite good for a car of this type. Our ZHPs are pretty hard on tires, regardless of driving style, so 40-50k can be expected from a set of tires if driven sedately. For comparison, my Pirelli's lasted approximately 30-35k, with three track days and maybe a couple of auto-x events on them. It's looking like my Conti's will outlast the Pirelli's by a long shot. I've got about 20k on them and they look only half worn, though that's with only one track day. I think with a couple more track days under my belt, they will be closer to the Pirelli's, though I hope they will stay quiet in the process.

Price-wise, these bad boys are up there, but then again, they should be. They are one of the best all season tires you can get, IMO. I had to get 235/35R-18 all around because I couldn't afford the staggered OEM sizes. The difference in price between 235's all around and 225/255 was a few hundred dollars! I have not noticed any performance difference between the two sizes (Pirelli's were 225/255's).

I can say that I'm rather impressed by the performance of these tires. For being all seasons, they handle corners like a champ. I did hear some tire squeal on the track, naturally, but they do have a gradual feel to them as they approach the limit based on what I felt that one day at the track. They were noticeably grippier than the Pirelli's. Wet track was okay, but I would have wanted a little better wet traction. I've broken the car loose one time when getting on the highway, and I wasn't even near half throttle (60mph) taking a light turn onto the highway. It wasn't a bad loss of traction, just a very minor bit of opposite lock. It was still enough to make me wonder though, had I been going a little faster; it was soaking wet, so I guess I can't complain too much other than about myself.

Stopping distance isn't something I noticed much of a difference with, and isn't a fair comparison. I have different brake setup now, so the brakes are a little firmer and as a result grab a microsecond sooner than my stock brakes did, so that would skew my perception of stopping distance.


We didn't have much of a winter, so snow traction can't be rated all that well. There was one minor storm that left a few inches on the ground, and the car performed well in that test with some smart winter driving. As long as you're not being an idiot, you can make it through some packed down snow without much drama.


Oh, and... the tires look pretty badass, IMO. :)

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/conti/co_xtrcontactdws_ci2_l.jpg

My personal overall score (for an all-season tire): 8.7/10.
Would I buy it again if shopping for an all-season tire?
Hell. Yes. I probably wouldn't even consider another tire; I'd just go straight for the DWS.

HokieZHP
05-05-2012, 10:10 PM
Great review BP!

If it's alright, I'll tack on a little review of my own with the winter part since BP didn't have a winter apparently haha

I have had them for ~10k now and am also happy with them. I got them staggered 235/40/18 in front and 255/35/18 in back. Beforehand I had Goodyear F1's. Car has 135k miles currently.

I drove my car in snow ranging from 1"-5" of fresh snow as well as the next morning in the ice/snow mix on the road. The car did decently well I'd say. I only had trouble getting going once and it was at a red light on a slight uphill. They did grab though and I did get going, it was just a little slow. I can only compare to my old TDI jetta (FWD) and my dad's Audi a3 (quattro) but i'd say the tires do well in the snow for not being snow tires. I never got stuck, even when I was driving on un-driven roads with 1-5" of fresh snow on them on slight hills and such. Didn't get stuck.

Overall, for AS tires, they are pretty good in my book. I'll most likely go to some performance summer tires next time but that's just because I prefer the benefits of a summer tire, performance wise.

Both of my parents have Michelin Pilot Sport All season tires on their audi's and I feel the two are very very close to one another. The PS's have less tire squeal but other than that they seem pretty even from my experience. Can't comment much on tire life since it's comparing the DWS's on a RWD car to Pilot sports on AWD and FWD audi's.

I would buy them again though if I was going to go with an all-season tire.

CarbonZHP
03-23-2015, 07:28 AM
Revival. My shop recommended this tire after I went through Pirelli PZeros and Toyo Proxes T1 Sport rears in about 10-15k miles each. Are you able to flip these tires side to side?

Vas
03-23-2015, 08:00 AM
There is a new replacement tire out now

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?15335-New-Conti-replacement-for-DWS-quot-Extreme-Contact-DWS06-quot&highlight=conti

But do you need an all-season tire in California? I would look at the Conti DW or Bridgestone S04 for an affordable summer tire IMO.

CarbonZHP
03-23-2015, 08:05 AM
There is a new replacement tire out now

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?15335-New-Conti-replacement-for-DWS-quot-Extreme-Contact-DWS06-quot&highlight=conti

But do you need an all-season tire in California? I would look at the Conti DW or Bridgestone S04 for an affordable summer tire IMO.

My main goal right now is tread life. I need something a little harder to handle the little extra camber I have. I dont track at all and the most I do is spirited daily driving. The "Ultra High Performance summer tires" have just been going way too fast

Edit: Treadwear number on the DWS is 540 vs. the DW 340

az3579
03-23-2015, 11:47 AM
The DWS will provide excellent tread life. I had 4 track days and about 35-40k on them before they wore out, and that was without rotating them.

You can probably expect 30-35 if you have extra negative camber.


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CarbonZHP
03-23-2015, 12:53 PM
At my alignment I was at -3.1 degrees, but I told them not to change it. I needed the extra camber to not rub the fender. Since then I've done a little more shaving and have maxed out the stock camber arms to positive so I'm probably running between 2.5 and 3 degrees negative.

Vas
03-23-2015, 01:17 PM
Did your tires wear out due to camber or toe? Or they had an even wear pattern?

CarbonZHP
03-23-2015, 04:16 PM
Honestly the camber I have should not give me the kind of wear Im getting, so I suspect another issue somewhere else. But I mean, toe should be fine too. New poly RTABs a year ago, and an alignment at EAS a couple months ago.

CarbonZHP
03-25-2015, 06:24 AM
Well, they're on. My first comment is that the steering now feels like mush, but I believe my FCABs are failed too

Vas
03-25-2015, 03:14 PM
Going from a summer to an all season tire you will notice a difference

CarbonZHP
03-25-2015, 04:52 PM
I mean, Ive driven plenty of cars with plenty of different tires. Mine just went from complete direct steering to feeling like a Cadillac on initial turn in. Need to check the FCABs and the sway bar.

Simmsled
10-23-2015, 06:02 PM
So, the DWS is being phased out for its successor, the DWS 06.
Just found out today. I think they are already on sale.

san
10-23-2015, 06:10 PM
So, the DWS is being phased out for its successor, the DWS 06.
Just found out today. I think they are already on sale.

Yup, I bought a set and they were cheaper than the dws...


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Simmsled
10-23-2015, 07:00 PM
Yup, I bought a set and they were cheaper than the dws...


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How do you like them?

san
10-24-2015, 09:50 AM
How do you like them?

They seem to be quite good... The noise is not too bad and the ride seem to have improved quite a bit.... But the main reason I bought these is cause of the low temperatures and snow, so Il reserve my final judgement until the end of winter but so far no complaints...


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Washburn
11-11-2015, 08:23 AM
After 5 months or so of DWS06 on my wife's Mazda6 (2014 - very sporty for its size), I am really happy with them, so went with the same for the ZHP - should be installed in about a week.

TheFinanceGuy
11-11-2015, 08:43 AM
I am running the older DWS on my ZHP currently. I wasn't impressed with the way they handled in the snow last year, however, I had to say, we had a TON of snow.
I am going to run Dunlop SP Winter Sport snow tires this winter.

The DWS were quite nice in light snow. I would 100% buy these again for everyday driving in a climate that sees light snow and colder temps. I am extremely happy with the way they are wearing as well. So far I have 15k miles on these.

dpark
03-18-2017, 05:10 AM
I had a set of the prior DWS on my ZHP and was torn between what to do for my next setup. I have posted in other threads that i keep my my tire inflations pretty low compared to others in order to get even wear. I run at 30/31 PSI all around.

My Conti DWSes were deep into the wear bars on the rears at 30K miles. The fronts were still above the wear bars (probably 60-65% wear). I did like the DWS in light snow which is what we get in Portland, OR.

I made the decision to get a square setup for snow (17x8 all around) and keep the staggered set for daily driving and wanted an inexpensive tire. I ended up going with the Barum Bravuris 3HM. Super cheap setup from Discount Tire ($88/front, $124/rear), installed and balanced for right around $500.

Just finished taking a trip to Bandon Dunes in the pouring rain around 45*F and the tires were just fine. No noise at up to 90mph highway, more than adequate grip in curves at aggressive, but reasonably sane speeds considering the rain. No scary twitchiness or anything.

Considering the cost of the DWS06 in staggered format, I am happy going with a separate summer/winter wheel/tire setup.

It was a difficult choice to not stay with the DWS line but I decided to bite the bullet and finally go for a winter/summer setup. If I could find just the fronts of my Style 135 wheels to make it a square setup, I probably would have continued with the DWS06 because I could rotate them and get closer to 40-45K miles out of them.

Aeternalis
03-22-2017, 12:00 PM
I had a set of the prior DWS on my ZHP and was torn between what to do for my next setup. I have posted in other threads that i keep my my tire inflations pretty low compared to others in order to get even wear. I run at 30/31 PSI all around.

My Conti DWSes were deep into the wear bars on the rears at 30K miles. The fronts were still above the wear bars (probably 60-65% wear). I did like the DWS in light snow which is what we get in Portland, OR.

I made the decision to get a square setup for snow (17x8 all around) and keep the staggered set for daily driving and wanted an inexpensive tire. I ended up going with the Barum Bravuris 3HM. Super cheap setup from Discount Tire ($88/front, $124/rear), installed and balanced for right around $500.

Just finished taking a trip to Bandon Dunes in the pouring rain around 45*F and the tires were just fine. No noise at up to 90mph highway, more than adequate grip in curves at aggressive, but reasonably sane speeds considering the rain. No scary twitchiness or anything.

Considering the cost of the DWS06 in staggered format, I am happy going with a separate summer/winter wheel/tire setup.

It was a difficult choice to not stay with the DWS line but I decided to bite the bullet and finally go for a winter/summer setup. If I could find just the fronts of my Style 135 wheels to make it a square setup, I probably would have continued with the DWS06 because I could rotate them and get closer to 40-45K miles out of them.
+1 for these Barum tires. I just put two 245/40-17 on my rear Style 68s and they have performed well so far. I intend to replace my front tires with them when it is time.

Fun fact: The Bravuris 3HM is "Y" speed rated!