View Full Version : M54 Oil Leak-- Front of Motor
kayger12
04-13-2012, 12:40 PM
I've been chasing down an oil leak at the front of motor for a few weeks now.
First sign was real subtle-- you know, the whole front of the vanos was completely covered in semi-cooked on oil (sorry, no pic).
I also found some oil on the top of the lower coolant hose.
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/Kayger12/2012-04-13_13-40-50_163.jpg
I cleaned the vanos and surrounding area up really well and drove for a couple of weeks. After some research, my leading candidates were a leaking vanos exhaust solenoid or a leaking exhaust camshaft position sensor.
Pulled the radiator fan today to snoop around. VCG looked good, but I could already see some oil building up underneath it.
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/Kayger12/2012-04-13_13-39-10_398.jpg
Looked down a little lower and found this (picture taken looking up from underneath the exhaust cps):
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/Kayger12/2012-04-13_13-39-57_833.jpg
So I'm thinking the o-ring on the exhaust cps is bad. I'm heading to the stealer in about 5 minutes to pick one up.
Will install tomorrow and report back.
danewilson77
04-13-2012, 01:44 PM
Could be KG. Inspect the old one when you pull it out.
kayger12
04-13-2012, 01:56 PM
Could be KG. Inspect the old one when you pull it out.
Anything else you can think of?
I picked up the o-ring for 2 bucks.
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danewilson77
04-13-2012, 02:01 PM
Naaa...I think you're on the right track. It just tough....because if there a drip coming from the VCG....it can go down, collect, and coagulate somewhere, making you think the leak is somewhere.....it isn't.
I am in favor of the CPS o-ring....clean it up good, run it a while....and see what you got. Are you having noticeable "Oil Level" issues?
Newjack
04-13-2012, 04:26 PM
There is a fastner that bently says is a one time use item and needs to be replaced after it is removed. It is the fastner (looks like a bolt) that holds the CPS in place. You can probably use it again but you might as well grab a new one if you can. Also torque to 7 ft-lbs.
kayger12
04-13-2012, 05:47 PM
Naaa...I think you're on the right track. It just tough....because if there a drip coming from the VCG....it can go down, collect, and coagulate somewhere, making you think the leak is somewhere.....it isn't.
I am in favor of the CPS o-ring....clean it up good, run it a while....and see what you got. Are you having noticeable "Oil Level" issues?
No other oil level issues. VCG is only 13 months/12k miles old so figuring that it's good. The area immediately below the vcg looks dry, fwiw.
There is a fastner that bently says is a one time use item and needs to be replaced after it is removed. It is the fastner (looks like a bolt) that holds the CPS in place. You can probably use it again but you might as well grab a new one if you can. Also torque to 7 ft-lbs.
Appreciate the info. I read some posts where people said to go with blue Loctite on the fastner. Sounds reasonable.
kayger12
04-14-2012, 01:02 PM
Nice easy switch out. Not real confident that was it, though. The o-ring that I took off seemed to be in ok shape.
Shot of the CPS sensor removed:
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/Kayger12/2012-04-14_14-20-03_79.jpg
All cleaned up and re-installed:
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/Kayger12/2012-04-14_14-37-45_748.jpg
We'll see how she looks in a week.
Also-- part# for the o-ring if anyone needs it in the future:
http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff401/Kayger12/2012-04-14_17-05-04_739.jpg
MrMaico
04-14-2012, 02:07 PM
Sure looks like that's where it's coming from. Is it possible it's the sender itself leaking? Although, it's not unusual for an o ring to be causing problems even though they look fine. Happens quite often at work. There is a hydraulic repair business that I go to when we need an o ring that we don't carry and he's never failed to have the right one on hand.
kayger12
04-14-2012, 02:56 PM
Sure looks like that's where it's coming from. Is it possible it's the sender itself leaking? Although, it's not unusual for an o ring to be causing problems even though they look fine. Happens quite often at work. There is a hydraulic repair business that I go to when we need an o ring that we don't carry and he's never failed to have the right one on hand.
There was no oil inside of the connector, so I think the sensor was ok. Certainly possible, though.
I'll report back later this week.
Good to know about the o-ring. This is the vanos that got replaced under cpo, so I'm wondering if they just reused the o-ring or if it didn't seat properly.
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nike001
04-14-2012, 03:40 PM
Was this the same thing that you recommended might be my problem?
kayger12
04-14-2012, 03:44 PM
Yes. Seems to be the most likely from the threads I've read.
I'll let you know for sure after I drive her a bit.
kayger12
04-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Two weeks and no more oil leak.
Looks like the o-ring was the winner.
danewilson77
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
Two weeks and no more oil leak.
Looks like the o-ring was the winner.
Good deal KG.
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echo46
04-28-2012, 03:01 PM
Nice job.
CERF04ZHP
05-11-2012, 07:11 AM
Feels good to get it right.
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thesixsins
10-05-2013, 04:51 PM
Two weeks and no more oil leak.
Looks like the o-ring was the winner.
I have the exact same issue. My mechanic found it... Said its pretty common.
I want to tackle this myself.
What tool did you use? (If you remember)
I only ask cause I found this Video and im not sure what bit he's using on that wrench.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4OnYuBS44
He also mentions you need to replace Camshaft position fastener& Looks like you need blue Locktight on top of that. Did you do any of that?
Thank yo!
kayger12
10-05-2013, 05:11 PM
I have the exact same issue. My mechanic found it... Said its pretty common.
I want to tackle this myself.
What tool did you use? (If you remember)
I only ask cause I found this Video and im not sure what bit he's using on that wrench.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4OnYuBS44
He also mentions you need to replace Camshaft position fastener& Looks like you need blue Locktight on top of that. Did you do any of that?
Thank yo!
Iirc, it was a torx bit. Maybe a T30.
I reused the original fastener and secured it with blue Loc Tite.
It's still holding up perfectly.
Very easy diy.
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alexandre
10-06-2013, 09:35 AM
This is actually a 5mm hex bolt.
kayger12
10-06-2013, 11:23 AM
This is actually a 5mm hex bolt.
Good looking out. It's been awhile since I did this job. I'm always getting my torx and hex confused.
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