Bags?!

[BustedBoat]

Is anyone on Bags? If so what's your opinion on it. If not is there a reason you aren't or won't?

[UdubBadger]

huh?

[acontzhp]

I think he's talking about suspension

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[UdubBadger]

huh?


:dunno

[M0nk3y]

huh?


:dunno

Mercedes has air suspension. I think he means like that stuff?

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[Hornung418]

Air bag suspension. Basically "Hard parking." Not recommended unless you know what you're doing.

[acontzhp]

Air bag suspension. Basically "Hard parking." Not recommended unless you know what you're doing.

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[UdubBadger]

got it.

[BustedBoat]

Sorry I wasn't clear in my questioning. I've seen a couple cars on airbag suspensions. I see it most used for looking good while parked. So lets say after driving at a certain given height, the driver parks the car. The car is then dropped to impossibly low levels. Some people drop it so that the top of the tire disappears into the fender. When leaving the driver can now lift the car to safe levels to protect the underside from any damage as he or she drives away.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4214/77046901.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/2877600700_b325926c42_o.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/219/img3095e.jpg/sr=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5PZw2NkTnY&feature=related

[pleasecorrupt]

Seems like hydraulics people usually have on low ride trucks. Kind of ricey imo. Car already looks nice parked, let it be haha.

[nike001]

I feel like bags are cheating. If you're going to be low, be low. Don't be low only when you want it to be.

I prefer to keep my car in a semi-performance oriented way anyway.... so what do I know.

[danewilson77]

IDK mang.....E46 ///M3 on bags?

[Hochspannung]

I'm sure if you checked out e46F you would find a lot more information.

[RVAzhp]

what do some Vdub guys say? bags are for bitches? :innocent

anyways, i don't see anything wrong with them for show cars, etc. my buddy had a bagged jetta that looked good, and he definitely drove around low. he has since sold the car, but if that's your think do it. i'm sure you can find more info on Hellaflush or Stanceworks, where i imagine a lot of cars are on bags. i prefer static personally.

There are definitely times when bags could come in handy depending on the speed bump or parking lot you're trying to get too!

Edit: i got it wrong, i guess they say switches are for bitches?
http://www.ihatestickers.com/motorsports-other-c-2_10/static-cause-switches-are-for-bitches-p-604

either way, i still don't see anything wrong with bags and they can definitely come in hand as well as give you the look you want, but still be able to drive your car over various terrain. i think the only people who really hate on bags are the hardcore core static drop guys who replace their oil pan every 5k from rode debris damaging it.

[zj96sc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5PZw2NkTnY&feature=related

That video is going to make Hans the suspension engineer at M HQ do the pencil disappear on himself. Poor car!

Bags are great for applications where you legitimately need ride leveling (tow applications, heavy loads). Beyond that, they create such a huge amount of problems from a fitment standpoint (read: get out the grinder and welder) and the range of motion will completely junk any good alignment you have.

The only fair use I could see (other than show) would be inside the rear coils to keep the car level with load in it. Not going to work up front inside our struts.

[RVAzhp]

bags have their place...

http://www.stanceworks.com/2011/11/years-in-rotiforms-audi-a8/

http://www.stanceworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/IMG_7556.jpg

[RVAzhp]

That video is going to make Hans the suspension engineer at M HQ do the pencil disappear on himself. Poor car!

Bags are great for applications where you legitimately need ride leveling (tow applications, heavy loads). Beyond that, they create such a huge amount of problems from a fitment standpoint (read: get out the grinder and welder) and the range of motion will completely junk any good alignment you have.

The only fair use I could see (other than show) would be inside the rear coils to keep the car level with load in it. Not going to work up front inside our struts.

as far as grinding, etc. yes. but the guys put bags and do all of this for the stanced look. rolling fenders doesn't even start the amount of work to fit some of these wheels. as far as alignment goes, i suspect they align the car at their normal ride hide, they aren't rolling around at different heights everyday.

[BustedBoat]

Honestly my thought on it was more to avoid any driving trouble from potholes. Honestly I'm an okay driver, except for potholes. I just don't have the knack of avoiding all of them, and I'm so anal of hitting that one bump that wrecks it all. A friend of mine has broken numerous oil pans. Needless to say he's not the best of drivers, but he does have a dropped car. I was just hoping of finding an alternative to get the best of both worlds.

[RVAzhp]

Seems the best option is not to be slammed. the bags aren't going to stop you from hitting pot holes and if you can't avoid them, you're going to hit them anyways, and depending on what you have your bags set at for driving (which i suspect is lower than stock) you're still going to wreck your oil pan/bend a wheel, and possibly mess up your bag setup. lowering your car any, and heck even stock, you can run into pot holes and broken things. Being slammed definitely increases your odds of breaking something.

depending on your daily driving adventures and terrain will determine how low you want to go, as well as, your tolerance for fixing broken oil pans.

Edit: it also may just be my own experiences with lowered cars, you definitely pay a lot more attention to where your going and what's on the road. you will also learn pretty quick what your car can...and can't...go over. The War song lowrider comes to mind: "Low rider drives a little slower" and you definitely will depending on what's in front of you.

[C Withers Media]

This is a very divisive topic. I love slammed cars and I am believer that form>function on 3 series. I have a different take on the 3 series than most on this forum and I will not share that opinion here, but I do think that a low static drop on these cars is not only more cost effective but simply looks better. As far as fender modifications, yes, if you plan on getting low be prepared to make them. This will include rolling, pulling, shaving and potentially grinding, but there is no denying that a 3 series on a set of wide step lipped 3 piece wheels will stop traffic in any town.

If bags are your thing, go for it. If you are looking for a ton of information check out www.stanceworks.com as mentioned. Those guys seem to reign supreme on fitment knowledge and the owner of the site, Mike Burroughs, is a BMW fanatic.

[RVAzhp]

one day i want rotiform NUE's or BLQ's and semi-slammed

[zhp43867]

bags have their place...


What place is that? I see a car that looks much worse than it did from the factory (the A8s are stunning from the factory) that more than likely rides much worse than it did originally. The cars original purpose was ultimate elegance and refinement, what is it now?

On an E46 all bags would do is destroy any hope of correct suspension geometry (That is already tweaked, I might add, by how low many people with coilovers go).

Just my .02

[RVAzhp]

yeah but in the DOPE STATUS world, bags are king. i highly doubt that dude drives that a8 around and is like man i wish i had the factory ride so i could put these fat lip wheels on and make it look weird. the amount of fender work and his airbag setup is probably pretty nice. it's a "show" and no where near a performance machine at that point.

[az3579]

Let's just say it like this. If the bags go wrong, you'd better have the $$ to fix it, because it ain't gonna be cheap.


That is all.


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[zj96sc]

What place is that?

right hurr:

http://www.airliftcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/CADUnderframe_wcallouts.jpg

:biggrin :biggrin

[bullfrogs_M3]

My buddy here in Phoenix had bags on his ZHP

http://www.my330i.com/mod40.php

Review w/pics:
http://www.my330i.com/praxis.php

He dropped it a few times. I was actually gonna buy his Praxxis air system from him but decided against it after I read about issues with the bags and the cadillac float at high speeds.