Spacer discussion

[bullfrogs_M3]

If you have em post up info to help those of us who don't have them and might be considering them:

1. What size spacers are you running?
2. Front AND Rear? Or just fronts or just rears?
3. Wheel dimensions
4. Tire dimensions
5. Rubbing or fender modded?
6. Purchase location?
7. Pics (not necessary though)

[bullfrogs_M3]

I am considering them and here are my specs

Wheel:
18x8.5
ET 35

Tires - Pirelli P Zero:
Front: 235/25/18
Rear: 255/35/18

Suspension:
Dropped as low as I can go on F2 Type 2 Coilovers

What size spacers should i get?

[danewilson77]

10 mm rear. Going to a 15 mm. Rear fender rolled.

3 mm front. Not rolled. Could Prolly fit a 5 mm up there.

Wheels are BBS CK 18x8, ET45 square setup.

Dropped as low as I can go on KW V1's.

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[bullfrogs_M3]

Dane, is your rear camber pulled in substantially? It looks like on your sig pick you are running some pretty aggressive camber. Do you know how many degrees negative you are?

I am only sitting on -1.0 in the rear. I can probably go more but didn't want to chew through my tires too quickly.

[mimalmo]

OEM wheels with OEM tire sizes, dropped pretty low on KW V2 coilovers (all the way down in front, helper springs are still in). Running a 20mm spacer in front, 10mm in back. Looking to go to a 15mm to 20mm in back.

No rubbing, rear fenders are rolled.

Also, the Turner spacers are my favorites so far due to their design and the fact that you can get black wheel bolts in their kits for that OEM look.
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-E46/c-141-turner-motorsport-wheel-spacers.aspx

[danewilson77]

Dane, is your rear camber pulled in substantially? It looks like on your sig pick you are running some pretty aggressive camber. Do you know how many degrees negative you are?

I am only sitting on -1.0 in the rear. I can probably go more but didn't want to chew through my tires too quickly.

Camber is spec. I believe that is pin cushing from the photo.

[bullfrogs_M3]

Thanks Eli, Dane.

Sounds like i can go at least 10MM in rear. Will need to think about the fronts

Interesting article
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-wheel-spacers.aspx

[HokieZHP]

are there an spacer brands to stay away from/

[danewilson77]

I think the spaces from TMS are really excellently built and designed. The H&R's are Prolly next, followed by the ecs spaces. All do the same thing function wise.

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[HokieZHP]

So I was going to get some 10 or 12.5mm TMS spacers until I decided I better check just to be sure. Found this... It's on level ground. That's duct tape hanging vertically from the inner fender lip. Guess I need to roll my fenders before I do anything.

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq109/maxx919/photo-2.jpg

[danewilson77]

Rolling genders would be positive insurance....but you shouldn't rub anyhow with a stock setup....unless you hit some huge bumps or go hard into a corner.

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[wsmeyer]

Rolling genders would be positive insurance....

I know we're not supposed to be spelling police but that's just too damn funny.

William.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I know we're not supposed to be spelling police but that its just to damn funny.

William.

I think we're ok when we laugh at the auto-correct errors that our phones and other mobile devices make. Dane's auto corrects are always fun.

[danewilson77]

I think we're ok when we laugh at the auto-correct errors that our phones and other mobile devices make. Dane's auto corrects are always fun.

That was not auto correct. I just mis-spelled it...:shifty

Ima leave it though...cuz its funny as hell.

Hokie...genders=fenders

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[mimalmo]

So I was going to get some 10 or 12.5mm TMS spacers until I decided I better check just to be sure. Found this... It's on level ground. That's duct tape hanging vertically from the inner fender lip. Guess I need to roll my fenders before I do anything.

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq109/maxx919/photo-2.jpg


Remember that your wheel does not go straight up. It actually swings inward a few degrees.

[HokieZHP]

Yeah I thought about that. I was hoping to measure it when the suspension is compressed but I don't have a way to do it. Maybe I should go by the stadium after football practice and see if some of the guys can help me compress my suspension so I can measure it haha

[mimalmo]

No, they'll end up denting the car if they push on the fenders and trunk. Unless you get them to just sit in the back seat.

[HokieZHP]

Yeah I was joking... I'll most likely end up leaving it until I refresh my suspension which shouldn't be too much longer since I'm just over 120k.

[iZHP]

Stock ZHP wheels and springs on Bilstein Sports. Looking to get spacers.

[Rovert]

Spacers would work fine with a fender roll that gives room for the suspension to compress. The only issue I'm finding is that the flusher you go, the more the tire needs to be stretched to an angle instead of squared and flat with the wheel. My fenders are rolled and everything clears except on hard dips the driver side tire taps the small edge where the sheet metal meets the plastic bumper. I'll have to find a way to shave that! I'm at ET45 in the rear and I so want to go ET35. But I think I'll need 235/245 tires instead of running 265's on my 9.5" wheel.

[C Withers Media]

235/35/19 is the magic number to solve your problem Trevor. All the way to et32.

[mimalmo]

Casey's right. Run that size tire and you'll have tons of room. My 10" rears were spaced out to ET35 so ET32 with your 9.5" rears should be no problem.

[Rovert]

Now I just have to use up my new Conti DW's.....LOL. One thing that I do really really enjoy is the safety aspect of 265 grip in the rear. If someone can prove that 235's are just as grippy as 265's then I could make that adjustment easier. Spacers just make the car so perfect in stance in every way OEM did safely.

To keep on the topic discussion, I use my 10mm for my winter rear M68 wheels and the ET50 + 10mm = ET40 combined on 225/45/17 which is no problem.

[nike001]

Anyone have input for spacers for the stock 135m wheels & stock suspension??


Spacers would work fine with a fender roll that gives room for the suspension to compress. The only issue I'm finding is that the flusher you go, the more the tire needs to be stretched to an angle instead of squared and flat with the wheel. My fenders are rolled and everything clears except on hard dips the driver side tire taps the small edge where the sheet metal meets the plastic bumper. I'll have to find a way to shave that! I'm at ET45 in the rear and I so want to go ET35. But I think I'll need 235/245 tires instead of running 265's on my 9.5" wheel.

You're getting SO flush.. that your flush is turning in to 'stretch & poke' lol.