For Sale: 2004 BMW 330i ZHP - 19k miles, Imola/Blk Leather, 6MT, Cleveland, OH - $23,500

[ecrabb]

Found this on my weekly Craigslist travels - an Imola Red ZHP w/less than 20k miles on it!

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/2556203913.html

Looks like a Cleveland suburb... A six-hour drive for you Chicago guys, and not much further for the east coasters.

From the photos, the car looks nearly perfect, if not flawless. In one of the interior photos, there's a towel on the driver's seat and M-sport driving gloves on the console, so I'm betting the seat and steering wheel are about like new.

Listing implies the car was a Germany delivery.

Well out of my price range, but I thought somebody here might be interested in another ZHP that's almost like-new.

Cheers,
SC


2004 BMW 330i Performance Package, ZHP-6speed manual transmission.
19,093 Original Miles

Premium Package - Leather Seats vs. Alcantara (alcantara steering wheel, gear shifter boot, and hand brake boot), Navigation System, Parking Sensor, 18" Premium wheels, xenon lights, rear window sun shade.

Color - Imola Red

Clear tail lights and clear finish head lights (see pictures).

Car was brought privately from Germany. European Version.

Very few 330i were made with a Performance Package, and low milage makes it extremely rare.

Please call (440) 678-8682. This number is a google voice number, which will ask you for your name -- simply say "craigslist ad."

[Alphatek45]

Wow.

[e34slt]

Wow.

What he said -

[Marcus-SanDiego]

As Dane would say: mount up, mafia. One of us needs to buy it.


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[Go Horns!]

This car was on Autrotrader when I was doing my search back in January. Same miles, same price. He never replied to my e-mails.

FWIW - I bought a 2004 IR sedan w/ leather, manual tranny, and less miles for about $1,500 less then the asking price.

[e34slt]

This car was on Autrotrader when I was doing my search back in January. Same miles, same price. He never replied to my e-mails.

FWIW - I bought a 2004 IR sedan w/ leather, manual tranny, and less miles for about $1,500 less then the asking price.

If the price was the same 7 months ago...then in actuality - the price has increased on an asset that is depreciating. The seller must think that his car is a collector's item that is appreciating in value.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

If the price was the same 7 months ago...then in actuality - the price has increased on an asset that is depreciating. The seller must think that his car is a collector's item that is appreciating in value.

I've seen a couple of those recently. No depreciation reflected in price -- but more miles (and another year) added to the car.

Not
:chuck

[webster]

wow, pristine car!

[e34slt]

I've seen a couple of those recently. No depreciation reflected in price -- but more miles (and another year) added to the car.

Not
:chuck

Trolling for suckers....

[zj96sc]

Car has been on autotrader for probably 1 year.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

And it will likely sell to someone on AutoTrader, who doesn't know what we know.

[M0nk3y]

And it will likely sell to someone on AutoTrader, who doesn't know what we know.

My car was on AutoTrader for a year as well....someone will see it eventually

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[Marcus-SanDiego]

My car was on AutoTrader for a year as well....someone will see it eventually

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I have no doubt.

[ecrabb]

To be fair, what one guy was able to buy/sell his car for has little bearing on what another person is able to sell his/hers for, or what yet another person is willing to pay for one. The question is whether the comparable purchase is really comparable... Time of year, market conditions, supply/demand, and the cars themselves all play into things.

The fact that it's been on AutoTrader for a year does say it all, though.

Still, from all the shopping I've done, the asking price doesn't seem that out of line given others' asking prices for cars with 2-3x the mileage. What would you be willing to pay for this car? $22k?

SC

[aurelius]

If the price was the same 7 months ago...then in actuality - the price has increased on an asset that is depreciating. The seller must think that his car is a collector's item that is appreciating in value.

Well, the ZHP is appreciating, as is the US used car fleet in general, and in-demand models in particular. We can thank the credit freeze of 2-3 years ago, which slowed new car sales to a crawl and, in turn, has made today's used market super tight.

The ZHP, thanks partly to this fine forum, being one of those in-demand models.

In this case, however, it may be a moot point. Altho the price is more reasonable now than it was a year ago, it's still too high. On top of that, apparently, the seller is unresponsive.

My guess is seller bought AT's "run till it sells option" and will therefore keep it online until he/she decides to sell for reals.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

You know how I feel about asking prices, Steve. Where they end up is what I really focus on.

Clearly this guy is not budging from his asking price. And, not surprisingly, it's been for sale for a year.

[aurelius]

Maybe, as seller claims, it is indeed a "European version."

Which would explain the lack of a sale due to the add'l $10-15k the new owner would spend satisfying US DOT & EPA, plus US Customs/ICE import tariff.

[Note: no, I don't truly think it's a Euro version]

[Marcus-SanDiego]

[Note: no, I don't truly think it's a Euro version]

:biggrin

[echo46]

Why, is the seller trying to pull something.

[llll1l1ll]

If by "German delivery," they mean "delivered to a dealership from the manufacturing plant in Germany," then yes, this is a German model. With that logic, all of ours are German models.

I think this guy is just trying to sell it to some desperate chump.

[aurelius]

Probably Euro Delivery. I'd bet the US military version of Euro Delivery, in which case the car was likely in Germany and or elsewhere in Europe longer than a typical ED customer stays.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

^^ I think that's a good guess.

[aurelius]

If it still has 19-20k miles on the clock, I would think it'd fetch $22k in the current market.

[rikdee]

I agree. It is probably worth $22k being an '04, $23.5k might be doable for an '05. But, with 20k miles, the car will fetch the number only if the cosmetics and maintenance records are as clean as the mileage is low. Heck, if everything is cool, it is like a new car or nearly so. I'd pay it if it was flawless.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Assuming the guy will budge, I'm guessing this would sell for $20K-$22K. We just had a car on this site go for (at most) $22,900 and it had 14,000 miles on it.

[flexlewis]

meh seen it before on AT...any ZHP over $20k...I rather just buy a E46 M3 IMO