Tire Wear and Brands

[Mtnman]

Ok, now that we have a site of just zhp owners, im curious about everyone's tire wear, and experience with tires. Pls let me know sizes, wear, and personal experience of what you have run. Ill start, as I am getting new tires tomorrow.

I run a staggered setup, so there is no rotation tires. My last (current set until tomorrow) was michelin pilot sport AS Plus. 235/40/18 and 265/35/18. These tires have almost exactly 20,000 miles on them right now. The front tires are only 1/2 worn, but the rears are bald. I mean done. I am replacing rears only with Continental DWS, and also going down to a 255/35/18. I hope this helps with my wear in the rear. (side note, i do not do burnouts, etc, but do drive Sporty) I did thoroughly enjoy the michilens. grip was great, especially in rain and snow. And they were quiet at highway speeds. I just thought i would get more wear out of a guaranteed 45k mile tire.

What kind of wear do the rest of you experience?

David

[danewilson77]

Umm....I experience normal wear. I mean, I have Hankook Ventus V12's and I love them, but typically tire wear is going to be a function of UTQG rating, road conditions, and how you drive.....

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=48

[Mtnman]

i guess what i want to know is what is normal tire wear for our cars? i can look up tread-wear rating for each tire, but i want to know if 20k on 45k (advertised) tires is normal for this car, or i am doing something wrong. I also want to find out things like is running a 265 instead of 255 wearing the tire faster. The Mich. ps plus were a 500 tread-wear rating, and guaranteed for 45k miles if you rotate. And they cost $600 bucks for 2! I just got the DWS for 450 cash out the door, which is a great price. I will report on how they ride over the next few thousand miles. They are also around 500 tread-wear.
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[danewilson77]

I got 30k outta my last set (Khumos), and they were pretty wasted. I wouldn't ever expect to get more than 30k miles out of a set of tires...

[jjcools]

Why would going to 255 from 265 help with wear?

I never expect more than 30k for low profile tires.

[danewilson77]

Yeah...I think it would only wear more on the inner edge due to camber...

[Mtnman]

I had a lot of center wear on this set of 265's. (they were not overinflated) So i waam going to try the 255 and see what happens. Also, I had to add a 5mm spacer because of the f****** beyern wheels that were supposed to fit but didnt when i put on new pads and rotors last week.......the rears did not clear. So i went back to 255 just to make sure i wouldnt rub, and to see if they last longer. I am not sure why i only got 20k out of these tires. But 20k vs 30k is a BIG difference to me. I have wondered if I need new rtabs, but the car stays true during braking, so im at a loss. That's why I started this thread; to see what everyone else has going on.
David

[danewilson77]

Damn...what was the offset.....?

[Marcus-SanDiego]

The original owner of my car put Falkens on (the 452). They're doing pretty well, but I am not sure when they were put on. I am going to send him an email and see if he remembers. I like them so far, though.

[Mtnman]

Im gonna bump my own thread to try to get some more info from all of you on how long rear tires last for each of you! If i was smart enough to do a poll, i would. I am not, so this is what you get. So, How long do your rear tires last?
David

[kayger12]

I had Ventus v12s on my 325i for 30k miles of spirited driving and they were just getting down towards the wear bars. That doesn't include whatever miles were put on those tires by the PO. Was planning on new rubber for this spring, but unloaded it to pick up the ZHP.

[pyreguy]

The PO had just put a set of the pilots on the front of mine. They have a treadwear rating of 220. The rears are getting pretty bad and they are bridgestone potenzas with a tread rating of 140. I was gonna replace them with pilots as soon as all the roadwork around my place is done. My rears are 255's. I assumed that was the stock size.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Yep. 225 in front. 255 on the rears.

[pyreguy]

I always figured if I got 30k out of a pair of good performance tires I was doing well. That's easily a couple years for me.

[zhp43867]

Ok, now that we have a site of just zhp owners, im curious about everyone's tire wear, and experience with tires. Pls let me know sizes, wear, and personal experience of what you have run. Ill start, as I am getting new tires tomorrow.

I run a staggered setup, so there is no rotation tires. My last (current set until tomorrow) was michelin pilot sport AS Plus. 235/40/18 and 265/35/18. These tires have almost exactly 20,000 miles on them right now. The front tires are only 1/2 worn, but the rears are bald. I mean done. I am replacing rears only with Continental DWS, and also going down to a 255/35/18. I hope this helps with my wear in the rear. (side note, i do not do burnouts, etc, but do drive Sporty) I did thoroughly enjoy the michilens. grip was great, especially in rain and snow. And they were quiet at highway speeds. I just thought i would get more wear out of a guaranteed 45k mile tire.

What kind of wear do the rest of you experience?

David

20k is very good. I'd use the guarantee on the A/S Plus and replace them; I'm pretty sure they have one. The A/S plus and DWS are going to be a weird matchup.

If you run Star Specs like me you're very happy with 15k miles. :shifty

[Mtnman]

Yeah, the as plus had a 45,000 mile warrenty, but not rotating them voids that. So no luck there. Why do you think the michilens and the dws will be weird together? They both are 500+ treadwear ratings, and temp and traction ratings are the same.

[gr330zhp]

Always rock Michelin Pilot Sports Summers

Front 225/40ZR18

Rear 255/35ZR18

I have gotten a good 25k from the rear. My current rear tires have about 10k on em and look brand new still. Im happy with that considering they are summer tires on a RWD car thats sees curvy roads often.

Fronts I had put about 25k on, but they were at about 2/3 when I bought the car.

I like em and will probably keep on buying em :)

[Mtnman]

Ok, just a quick review. I have had the continental dws for about 200 miles now, and they are nice and quiet at highway speeds. Also, it snowed about 3-4inches here last night, and they got the zhp out of the driveway just fine, and the drive is uphill. I was always impressed with the pilot sport as plus's snow capability. Imshouldnhave more to report on the dws tomorrow, as we are supposed to get another three inches, and I have t work tomorrow. I drive about half the day at work.
David

[Alphatek45]

Just got a quote for the PILOT SPORT PS2 Mounted, balanced and aligned for $1400.00 cash. (Butler Tire)
I'm sold on the Michelin's. And really with the amount of miles I put on the car, I will probably have to replace them from dry rot before wear. I just wonder if the extra 4-500.00 vs. lets say the Continental extreme dws is really worth it.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Adam, I got my Michelin PS2 through Tirerack. These were 19 inch tires with 245 on the front and 265 on the rear. That $1400 sounds high. I paid less for mine. I brought the tires to Discount Tires, where they mounted and balanced. An alignment is $100 in our neighborhood.

You're getting 18 inch tires. 225 on front and 255 on the rear?

I'm a fan of the Mich tires as well.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I just did a price check on Tirerack. $982. Throw in the $70 gift card you get for buying those and you're looking at $912 before shipping is factored in.

I think you can do better than that $1400, Adam.

[pyreguy]

The Godfather has spoken. The PO put PS2's on the front right before I bought the car. I am more than pleased with them. I plan on using them again when the need arises FWIW.

[Alphatek45]

Adam, I got my Michelin PS2 through Tirerack. These were 19 inch tires with 245 on the front and 265 on the rear. That $1400 sounds high. I paid less for mine. I brought the tires to Discount Tires, where they mounted and balanced. An alignment is $100 in our neighborhood.

You're getting 18 inch tires. 225 on front and 255 on the rear?

I'm a fan of the Mich tires as well.

Yeah, I'm getting those exact specs. When I told the sales guy that I had a few more places to call, he led me to believe that I probably had a little more wiggle room in the price (hundred or so.) he then went on to tell me that his labor is higher due to their methods/ technology being superior to most tire shops. He said that they specialize in performance cars, they high speed balance on the car, and align better than the dealer itself.
I looked at Kaufman tires website and the price wasn't that far off. Will keep shopping I suppose.
Thanks for the input.

[Alphatek45]

I just did a price check on Tirerack. $982. Throw in the $70 gift card you get for buying those and you're looking at $912 before shipping is factored in.

I think you can do better than that $1400, Adam.

Hnmmm

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Another thing I've done in the past is go to the tire shop and say, look, I got a quote of $982 (plus $70 gift card) from Tirerack.

Can you match it? If they will, then you go that way. If they won't, then you buy from Tirerack and bring the tires in to have them mounted and balanced.

[Alphatek45]

+ tax and shipping = $1216.00. Then I have to lug 4 tires to shop. Id assume they'll look to bend me right over on labor,disposal, enviro fees since they lost the tire markup. May actually cost more I think...
LOL, nothing is ever straight forward.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Frick. How much is shipping on those suckers??

Man.

That $1400 is starting to sound more reasonable.

I just did a quote for shipping and tax to me. It would be $1100 minus the $70. That's $1030. My shipping is $58. Tax was about $88.

[Alphatek45]

Something got messed up before:


* (2) 225/40ZR18 XL Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 $214.00
* (2) 255/35ZR18 XL Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 $277.00
(For some reason,at checkout, it says I may need to roll my rear fenders for this tire?)

Sub-Total$982.00
Shipping$48.81
Tax$76.15
Total: $1,106.96

Plus I would get the 70.00 "reward card" bringing my total to $1036.96

So, lets say I get Butler down to 1300.00 ( I know I can) Thats a difference of $263.04.

Figure 100.00 for Alignment. Leaves me with 163.04 to cover Mounting, balancing, disposal etc, plus my time dragging 4 tires down to the shop.

Oh well, wish this would have made more sense. At a first glance it looks like a real savings...

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Yep. Get Butler down. Makes sense.

Nice tires, Adam. I've enjoyed those on my 335. Grip is fantastic.

[MsRN]

I ran PS2s on my 325iT on all four corners, with 17x8 OZ Racing Superleggeras. It was a nice setup, and lasted somewhere between 20,000 and 25,000 miles (actually, they were close to needing replacement when I got T-boned). Had my wagon not been trashed in the crash, I'd have replaced them with the same.

When I bought the ZHP, it came with a rather awful set of Potenza RE040s; thankfully, these are now due for replacement. I considered the Dunlop Direzza Z1 StarSpecs, but I think I'll be putting on Pilot Sport PS2s, or the new (untested) SuperSports, which promise better dry performance and significantly better wear than the PS2s. Michelin offers a 30,000-mile warranty on the SuperSports (15,000 on the rears if one runs an asymmetric setup, as many of us do).

[kayger12]

Running out the tread on my 040s as well. They don't seem terrible to me. What didn't you like about them?

[kpro]

I deleted my post :)

[Crickett]

Any of you local guys that need things from Tire Rack, I have a wholesale account. I'm willing to share, but you gotta pay cash or check since its linked to my credit card.
@!!# Why didn't I know this a couple months ago when I needed a new set for the wife's X5?! Oh well . . . that's an awesome offer for the community, though!

[spencers]

Any of you local guys that need things from Tire Rack, I have a wholesale account. I'm willing to share, but you gotta pay cash or check since its linked to my credit card.
Kristen, how does that work? One of Tire Rack's distribution centers is here in Shreveport, LA, (actually down the street from the hospital I work at) where I'm able to personally pick up if it's in stock here. I'd love to get an even deeper discount on some tires if that's possible. :)

[kpro]

Spencers unfortunately that won't work. They ship to my work address, so whoever buys them through me, has to get them shipped here for the wholesale pricing.

[Jon D]

I'm running Nitto Invo's and so far very happy with performance and wear. Have about 12K on them and looking good. Much quieter than the 040's that were there before.

[danewilson77]

Spencers unfortunately that won't work. They ship to my work address, so whoever buys them through me, has to get them shipped here for the wholesale pricing.

Sounds like that would be a major pita for you kpro....

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[MsRN]

Running out the tread on my 040s as well. They don't seem terrible to me. What didn't you like about them?

Keith--I said they were awful, not TERRIBLE. :p

In fairness, my comparison assumes a) that the 18" 135Ms and the ZHP sedans suspension are equivalent to the 325iTs softer suspension and the lighter 17" OZ Superleggeras; b) that 18" Pilot Sport PS2s in an asymmetrical pattern are equivalent in all characteristics to 17" PS2s in a symmetrical setup. This is almost certainly an incorrect syllogism.

As for the 040s, I found them to be harsh, noisy, and lacking in wet/dry traction and road feel relative to the PS2s on which I've driven. In road bike terminology, it was like a set of knobby wire-bead 26" tires versus a set of 700c silk sew-ups. Never mind that the knobbies were in the last quarter of their service life, that one of the rims was bent, or that I'm biased towards sewups...

Once I've driven the ZHP on new Michelins, I'll revisit your question. Hopefully, my syllogism is more true than not, and I'll be able to recommend the PS2s. For now, I'll just say that I found the 040s too harsh and unrefined for my 'delicate' tastes (sic)...

[Rovert]

Falken FK452 235/40/18 and 265/35/18

Mounted on March 28th, 2007 @ 71,097 miles
Switched to winters November 20th, 2007 @ 83,005 miles
Total Falken miles driven 2007 = 11,908 miles

Back to Falkens on March 5th, 2008 @ 86,843 miles
Retire Falkens & switched to winters November 21, 2008 @ 100,341 miles
Total Falken miles driven 2008 = 13,498 miles

Grand Total Falken FK452 usage = 25,406 miles
Tread left 2-3 months: 1,000-3,000 miles.

Toyo T1R 235/35/19 and 255/30/19

Mounted on March 12th, 2009 @ 106,908 miles
Switched to winters December 8th, 2009 @ 122,397 miles
Total Toyo miles driven 2009 = 15,498 miles

Back to Toyos on March ___, 2010 @ ___,___ miles
Switched to winters November ___, 2010 @ ___,___ miles
Total Toyo miles driven 2010 = __,___ miles

Back to Toyos on March 20th, 2011 @ 137,___ miles
Retire to Conti DW on April __, 2011 @ ___,____miles
Total Toyo miles driven in 2011 = __,___ miles

Grand Total Toyo T1R usage =
Tread left: worn rear inside from camber. front has 3-4 months left or 3,000-5,000 miles

Style of driving? Hard cornering and slide rears a bit with throttle. 1-2 2500RPM launches/month. Redline at least once everytime I go out. Average ambient temps 60F-70F. 97% of the time is calm and tame aka 5MPH above speed limit.

I'll fill in the rest after I do my taxes and my whole 2010 expense report has been completed. :D

[danewilson77]

Great review Trevor. FYI....these are not available at Tirerack. Just saving you guys time....

[Marcus-SanDiego]

What's not available at Tirerack?

[danewilson77]

I typed in my car stats and Falkens didn't come up?

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Interesting. You'd think that Falken would be there. Seems like a popular tire.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I just looked on the site. They don't carry Falken at all. Not just our vehicles. Thanks, DW.

[danewilson77]

I expected to see them, then was surprised, as well, when I didn't.

[Jon D]

Neither is Nitto there :(

[kpro]

They don't sell Nitto, Falken, Toyo...there are others too.

[danewilson77]

Sounds like that would be a major pita for you kpro....

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Ahem....

[Marcus-SanDiego]

They don't sell Nitto, Falken, Toyo...there are others too.

I was actually surprised when I saw how many they do not sell.

[kpro]

Ahem....

sparkles and porno.

[danewilson77]

sparkles and porno.

:rofl

[MsRN]

:rofl

I clearly lead a sheltered life...

[Johnmadd]

I have the conti extreme DWS. Po had them installed rcently. I will post stats tomorrow. Seem like good tires to me.

[az3579]

Pirelli PZero Nero
I just determined that the extremely loud road noise I have isn't due to the wheel bearings but due to the tires. They have about 80% tread left, so there should be no reason for this noise.
I don't know if all PZero Nero tires make this noise, but I have a hard time believing that these are defective already.

Staggered setup; 235/40-18 F, 255/35-18 R

[kayger12]

Check the inside tread for feathering. Tread might have worn unevenly from the CABs before you replaced them. Hard to notice the feathering when there's still a lot of overall tread left on the tire.

[az3579]

Check the inside tread for feathering. Tread might have worn unevenly from the CABs before you replaced them. Hard to notice the feathering when there's still a lot of overall tread left on the tire.


Tires looked fine; didn't see any evidence of feathering.

[danewilson77]

I have heard of decent reviews on the Pirelli's

Droid X! Srs Legitness!

[az3579]

I have heard of decent reviews on the Pirelli's

Droid X! Srs Legitness!

They're fine from a performance standpoint. Maybe I just got some defective ones. :shrug

[kayger12]

Tires looked fine; didn't see any evidence of feathering.

Did you measure it, or eyeball it? If you eyeballed it, I would measure the tread depth. You might be surprised...

[az3579]

Did you measure it, or eyeball it? If you eyeballed it, I would measure the tread depth. You might be surprised...

You got me nervous, so I checked.
What I found what quite shocking. I cannot believe three of us missed this (me, my mechanic, and his "assistant", who is really the one working on my car most of the time and I don't like it)...

What do you see wrong with these pictures?

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/az3579/Misc/2011-03-20_12-01-13_118.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/az3579/Misc/2011-03-20_12-01-27_686.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/az3579/Misc/2011-03-20_12-02-48_142.jpg



What on earth would cause this? I just got my CABs done on Saturday; would worn CABs cause this? The old ones were a little worn but not horrid...
Bad shock mount perhaps? I have to replace these when I get back from vacation...

[kayger12]

The BMW tech I talked to said worn CABs are the primary suspect for feathering on the inside edge. My 325i had bad CABs (not horrible, just worn) and my tires were feathered and had terrible tire noise.

My ZHP has bad CABs (again, not terrible at 50k miles) and my tires are already starting to feather and I'm getting the woo woo woo road noise.

Mind you my car feels tight-- no wondering or tramlining problems. The only way I knew the CABs were going was the felt/heard, "pop" when you stab the brake at low speed and the BMW tech telling me about the feathering (which wasn't bad enough for me to notice yet).

The tech said replacing my CABs will stop the premature feathering, but I'm obviously stuck with the noise until I get new tires.

[danewilson77]

Figured as much.

Droid X! Srs Legitness!

[az3579]

I'm definitely not going to "live with it". Once I get back, I'm getting my exhaust in and after that will get two new front tires. My tires are wearing very well so far; over 17k miles that I know of on this set and so far looks almost new from a tread perspective not counting the "worn" section due to the CABs. That includes a couple of autocrosses and a track day.

Perhaps my driving style is just that good... :biggrin

That would mean that the wear levels if I bought two new fronts would still be similar to the rears by the time they need replacing, which would greatly please my OCD.

[brian75x]

20k is very good. I'd use the guarantee on the A/S Plus and replace them; I'm pretty sure they have one. The A/S plus and DWS are going to be a weird matchup.

If you run Star Specs like me you're very happy with 15k miles. :shifty

I blew through my first set of Michelin Pilot Sport rears in about 9800 miles. Oops! No burn outs or anything, but they do have the star on the sidewall. I assume this is the "star spec" you speak of. I thought I read in the manual that the star was recommended by BMW.

What is the difference in the star spec? I assume that the HORRIBLE treadwear is a trade-off for performance.

[spencers]

What is the difference in the star spec? I assume that the HORRIBLE treadwear is a trade-off for performance.
That "horrible" treadwear is a HUGE trade-off in performance!!!
Star Spec's are made by Dunlop (aka Dunlop Direzza Z1); not to be confused with the star on the sidewall of OEM BMW tires.

[zhpnsnv]

I didn't mind the oe re040s. Soon I'll have experience with conti extreme dw, which is not the dwS. The dwS is an all season and will get much better wear than the "summer" tires that are recommended for our cars. Tire width, height, etc really have nothing to do with tire wear. It's mostly about the wear rating. If you buy a 220 rated tire, don't expect much longevity. But it will grip!


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[SkiB07]

I ran Good Year F1 Gs-D2's, staggered (225/40/18 - 255/35/18) for 52k miles. The rears were pretty much done, BUT the fronts still looked good except for some bad feathering on the inside due to bad CAB's. I just put another set of F1 Gs-D3 (hard to find) staggered hoping to get another 50k. They were excellent tires on dry BUT were outstanding on wet roads.

[zhpnsnv]

I absolutely love the F1 GSD3s on my Cooper S.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I just bought some more Falken Fk452 tires. I like how they perform on the car. They were great in wet and dry. Tire rating is 300, which means they should last for some time.

The previous owner bought the Falkens before I bought the car. Good choice. I like them.


iPad. Tapatalk. Bi-winning.

[kayger12]

I just bought some more Falken Fk452 tires. I like how they perform on the car. They were great in wet and dry. Tire rating is 300, which means they should last for some time.

The previous owner bought the Falkens before I bought the car. Good choice. I like them.


iPad. Tapatalk. Bi-winning.

Good info, Boss.

I am starting to research tires now.

Not sure how much more I'll get out of the Potenzas.

Droid X. Tapatalk. Use it.

[Mtnman]

Alright guys and gals Got new tires today on the front. I have an update for tread wear, then I have a great tip I received from my tire guy.
Tread wear- Mich pilot sport AS Plus 235-40-18 front tires. I still had tread in the center of the tire, about 2 mm above the wear bar. Hated to get rid of them, but the edges were shot from the inability to rotate. Total Mileage- 29,100 Miles. Not bad.

Now, my tire guy is an old guy that has had his business in Asheville for years. He does a lot of higher end cars. He even sits on City Council. I asked him if he could flip my rear tires from one side to the other (the DWS are NOT unidirectional) as they have about 8k on the rears. He said he could do it, but he doesn't recommended it. He said it would lead to higher tire noise, and potential handling issues. He said once the tire gets set in its direction, its best to leave it alone. He also said BMW doesnt recommended rotating anymore. I found that interesting. He complimented me on my car too. We talked about BMW's. he said hes owned more than a few of them, and many of them had a staggered set up like mine. Said the first one he owned with a staggered setup was a 1980 Alpina 328 (or 323, i dont remember) But holy rare car, batman. That gave him all sorts of street cred in my book, not that he didnt have it already. Jan Davis Tire in Asheville, NC is officially :chuck

[danewilson77]

Woot!

Dane Wilson Approved!

[billschusteriv]

Sweet! Glad to get confirmation on the non-rotating business.

30k for miles on our cars is not too shabby. Well done!

[billschusteriv]

Woot!

Dane Wilson Approved!

Best I could do on short notice....

979

[kayger12]

^^^
epic

[danewilson77]

Best I could do on short notice....

979

LOL...............Now that's good.

[brian75x]

That "horrible" treadwear is a HUGE trade-off in performance!!!
Star Spec's are made by Dunlop (aka Dunlop Direzza Z1); not to be confused with the star on the sidewall of OEM BMW tires.

I have squeezed ALL of the life out of my Michelin Pilot Sports as I possibly can. I am down to the cords on the inners of the fronts after about 30K. The rears are not as bad, but only after 15K. Surprisingly, even though it sounds like I am driving a train, the tires still grip well with almost zero tread.

So I am in the market for new tires. I was considering going to an all-season to extend driving this car a few more months into the winter - but I have a winter car so I don't HAVE to. I am considering the Continental Extreme Contact DWS or maybe the pilot sport a/s plus.

So my question is this: How much of a trade-off in performance are we talking about? For example, there is a curve in the road I take to my house every day that is posted at 25mph. I can hit it at about 55mph without getting loose. The michelins are rated 220 AA A. The continentals are rated at 500 A A and the pilot sports A/S's are 500 AA A. If I hit that same curve (dry, in the summer) with the continentals, will I get loose at 50mph, or 45mph or what? Or would the traction difference be noticeable only at "track" speeds? If I can hit the same curve at 50 or 52mph with an all-season tire and get double the tread life (in theory), it seems like the right choice. If I am all over the place at 40-45mph, I might as well drive a minivan.

[kayger12]

Digging into tire info and reviews.

Eyeballing the new Kumho Ecsta 4x. (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+4X&frontTire=24WR8E4XXL&rearTire=535WR8E4X&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=BMW&autoYear=2005&autoModel=330Ci%20Cabrio%20Performance%20Pkg&autoModClar=)

Anyone running these yet?

[danewilson77]

Digging into tire info and reviews.

Eyeballing the new Kumho Ecsta 4x. (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+4X&frontTire=24WR8E4XXL&rearTire=535WR8E4X&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=BMW&autoYear=2005&autoModel=330Ci%20Cabrio%20Performance%20Pkg&autoModClar=)

Anyone running these yet?

No....but I'm on my second set of Khumos. AST's on this car, ASX's on the ZSP.

HTC Thunderbolt+TT

[kayger12]

No....but I'm on my second set of Khumos. AST's on this car, ASX's on the ZSP.

HTC Thunderbolt+TT

Ok-- this is supposed to replace the ASX. Looks like they've only been out since June or July.

Very good reviews so far...

[danewilson77]

Ok-- this is supposed to replace the ASX. Looks like they've only been out since June or July.

Very good reviews so far...

Interested as well. Fiscally mature?

HTC Thunderbolt+TT

[kayger12]

Interested as well. Fiscally mature?

HTC Thunderbolt+TT

$624 on Tire Rack. $50 mail in rebate until November 30th.

[danewilson77]

$624 on Tire Rack. $50 mail in rebate until November 30th.

That's great.

HTC Thunderbolt+TT

[kayger12]

Tire Rack video review here (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/videoDisplay.jsp?ttid=151)

[johnrando]

Not that this sways your decision, but Khumo is sponsoring USC football big time... their signs are everywhere. They seem like the are trying to make a big push.