Post your daily ZHP/BMW/MINI pics!

[Rovert]

Yellow Poles!!

[rguti153]

Yellow Poles!!
Yep dreadful [emoji43]

[cakM3]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/415db8ffbef3729fcbdd03cc26062e2a.jpg

Imola Day at Charrie's Garage!! ;)


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[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/194029d01ce8d966f2f304752b920ab2.jpg

[az3579]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/fa6022c5a4b56545f38ba03f86d82cdf.jpg

[cakM3]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/ad5a954db8d0f0150420365a417e902d.jpg


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[az3579]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/ad5a954db8d0f0150420365a417e902d.jpg


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Double post, Charrie!

[cakM3]

Double post, Charrie!

What can I say BP!! I'm not yet fully awake when I posted. Been working my ass off on BMWs lately....


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[WOLFN8TR]

20581

I'm so jealous of this color! :wub

[cakM3]

I'm so jealous of this color! :wub

Yeah, when I met Trevor this year I got to see his ///M in person. It is a beautiful color for sure! :thumbsup

[OtterEffect]

Rain in California!
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/10/408dcc53f7d6e5b05ccdffb01067cfe5.jpg


Ate the potato! Bought and iPhone 6 :)

[BMWCurves]

Rain in California!

Good to hear! Also, your car's looking good :drool

[OtterEffect]

Good to hear! Also, your car's looking good :drool

Thank you sir.


Ate the potato! Bought and iPhone 6 :)

[Vas]

Washed the Imola.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/29b4292b9544234642d762bc26a6bee7.jpg

[az3579]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/5b2bb0ee1dbf7c432334720ea66f6422.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/16ca551b10b7b5e6dd8ff643dd78b8cd.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/3fa976b8f7270e3f3f732b2a1f3b30ec.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/a899832450c95e2f1ba082a8903e8d01.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/e536d096d03b5712e617142810de6b86.jpg

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[cakM3]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/665a475fe5676b7524ce2bef6b2f3483.jpg

Looks good Botond! :thumbsup


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[Trackerpo9]

Car wash after a 300 mile road trip this weekend. Trying Zaino out for this car.

2072420725

Picture shows upright on my computer, not sure why it's sideways here. :dunno

[johnrando]

Looks great BP. Nice Tracker.

[Rovert]

20789

[3ZHP]

Haven't posted here lately!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/6b13c435a58070f1d25f7383c6557526.jpg


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[BMWCurves]

Whose 2-Series, Trevor?

[Jconlin16]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/17/a21a13be4a2d256c946b5583829c9def.jpg

Painted my calipers silver, new rotors, pads and sensors as well. Feels great!

[cakM3]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/598fc3f485ca1291e584183137eb3422.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/89118eaf969ed434da6fe4073e9c6164.jpg

Brett's ZHP in my neighborhood...


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[ELCID86]

20801


Thumbs, iPhone, TaT.

[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/29404c1590d5e71c79593b5b00a20aa2.jpg

[johnrando]

Looks good jconlon

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[Rovert]

Whose 2-Series, Trevor?

No clue!! I just forced it into an intimate moment. LOL

[rguti153]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/18/29404c1590d5e71c79593b5b00a20aa2.jpg
What u got going on ?

[Vas]

What u got going on ?
Body work to repair a surface rust spot on the rear right quarter panel.

[NoVAphotog]

Black and Red.

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[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/639c7fff48f6e5c045af44ec875f192d.jpg

[ELCID86]

^ back in bidness?


Thumbs, iPhone, TaT.

[Vas]

^ back in bidness?


Thumbs, iPhone, TaT.
Partially

[theothersawyer]

While pumping gas! I really love this Eagle One Wax as you dry stuff! It's nice and super easy to apply! It just rained and I drove the car two miles and all the water beaded right off!

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/GaAsSlugger22/69EE251C-BA09-46CF-AE9E-B8127846C12D_zps4y9nys2x.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/GaAsSlugger22/media/69EE251C-BA09-46CF-AE9E-B8127846C12D_zps4y9nys2x.jpg.html)

[stephenkirsh]

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[az3579]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/3b1ed14598cd1fec8741ea4fbbded246.jpg

Was high 8's when I left the track.

The amount of mpg's is directly proportional to the amount of fun being had.

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[Rovert]

Higher RPMs needed for that MPG. Go go go. Try again. LOL

[az3579]

Higher RPMs needed for that MPG. Go go go. Try again. LOL
I'd like to see you get that low. :)
(And not by cheating)

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[BMWCurves]

I'd like to see you get that low. :)
(And not by cheating)

How on earth would you cheat?

*turns off car idling in the driveway for past 8 hours*

[anandoc]

The amount of mpg's is directly proportional to the amount of fun being had.


Incorrect. The amount of mpg's is inversely proportionate to the amount of fun being had. Lower the mpg's = more fun! :ducking

[az3579]

Incorrect. The amount of mpg's is inversely proportionate to the amount of fun being had. Lower the mpg's = more fun! :ducking
Damn it, I stand corrected. Must be the damn heat messing with me. The place I'm staying at doesn't have AC. Ugh.

I drive home tomorrow.

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[anandoc]

Damn it, I stand corrected. Must be the damn heat messing with me. The place I'm staying at doesn't have AC. Ugh.

I drive home tomorrow.

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How the heck does this place not have AC? It was almost 40C today with humidity (around 100F). I hope you atleast got to enjoy the track!

[az3579]

How the heck does this place not have AC? It was almost 40C today with humidity (around 100F). I hope you atleast got to enjoy the track!
It was brutal outside today. High humidity and despite having 9-10 bottles of water, I still felt dehydrated.

The place I'm staying at doesn't have AC or even WIFI. Let's not even talk about all the bugs (it's right on the water).

Despite the hosts being amazing people and the cottage being very nice otherwise, I won't be staying here next year unfortunately.

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[KevinC]

Hot off the presses...

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/Z4M-Coupe-7-19-15/i-2sJcHTS/0/X2/DSC_0656-X2.jpg

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/Z4M-Coupe-7-19-15/i-mwsDN9Q/0/X2/DSC_0657-X2.jpg

[theothersawyer]

Nice! Love the Z4M's!

[Fenrir]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/19/f28d8f60e3c17cabac975e31bb968bd5.jpg

Took this when I was home a few months ago. My old TDI and the ZHP after a bath.

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[fredo]

Cool. Do u still have the TDI ?

[Fenrir]

I do lol. It's a great lil car. It stays back home in VA.

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[Fenrir]

Aaaaand this is from today while sitting in a pizza joint. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/f574e9c4aa64a323a31bcd443520b179.jpg

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[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/b0a851861174fe9a4c686282fbfe567a.jpg

[johnrando]

loving the daily pics!

[Fenrir]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/20/b0a851861174fe9a4c686282fbfe567a.jpg
Nice.

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[Johnmadd]

Not Waldo parking

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc407/johnmadd1979/20150721_110841.jpg (http://s1210.photobucket.com/user/johnmadd1979/media/20150721_110841.jpg.html)

[Imola.ZHP]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11264835_10204563959406584_6798803537224967598_n.j pg?oh=739344dde90968542e77a6178e249e44&oe=56503BA7

[cakM3]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/7e714563480091c9ea01e91530ac1c37.jpg

Freshly cleaned ZHP :drool


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[NorCal-Dimitri]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/22/7e714563480091c9ea01e91530ac1c37.jpg

Freshly cleaned ZHP :drool


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Fabulous as always, Charlie. :thumbup

[cakM3]

Fabulous as always, Charlie. :thumbup

Thanks Dimitri! :thumbsup

[Rovert]

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[poke08]

Hanging with some of my buddies and myself from yesterdays meet. The blue 135i and 435i are wrapped by Carbon Wraps here in Orlando.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c356/jonfuller8/squad_zpsahuns95m.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/jonfuller8/media/squad_zpsahuns95m.jpg.html)

[johnrando]

:like

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[Rovert]

I'd like to see you get that low. :)
(And not by cheating)

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20904

Finally got it down super low!! After 37km of driving. [emoji55]

[330i ZHP]

Did you add the reflectors? Just stick on?


Hot off the presses...

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/Z4M-Coupe-7-19-15/i-2sJcHTS/0/X2/DSC_0656-X2.jpg

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/Z4M-Coupe-7-19-15/i-mwsDN9Q/0/X2/DSC_0657-X2.jpg

[Hornung418]

Did you add the reflectors? Just stick on?
Standard garb for Z4 from factory.

[az3579]

20904

Finally got it down super low!! After 37km of driving. [emoji55]
That's the WRONG kind of low. lmao
Your numbers should be over 20. [emoji14]

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[Fenrir]

Took this while on a day trip to Carlsbad Caverns here in NM. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/0e92044de3c79c00613be7e2b4023182.jpg

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[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/5b9c74b8cd6d84057cc6e2c440652f55.jpg

[Washburn]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/a9ccac623a720483a9510a8fd531d50c.jpg


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[Rovert]

That looks like a red sports bra with fancy yellow stitching! Haha

[cakM3]

20904

Finally got it down super low!! After 37km of driving. [emoji55]

You got M-Track Mode.....I'm jelly!


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[Rovert]

Well that's because I sometimes treat my car like it really is racecar. And now with the exhaust barking out the downshifts, it's just so tempting to slip the back just to hear chaos shooting out the pipes. LOL

[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/25/33edde4529fd463bf6dbdd4f2c680539.jpg

[stephenkirsh]

20917

I got married.

[Fenrir]

Woohoo! Gratz!!

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[stephenkirsh]

20929

[KevinC]

My "new" M5, just in from EAG, after driving cross-country the last 3 days.. my Z4M is going back to Cincy (by truck) in trade. More info/pics in the next few days.. here's a shot en-route taken somewhere outside St Louis on Friday...

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/BMW-E39-M5/i-8g4CWhF/0/X2/IMG_6504-X2.jpg

[BMWCurves]

Wait, so traded Z4M for the M5?

[stephenkirsh]

Whaaaat?

[QC_ZHP]

M5s <3

[Rovert]

S62 sounds like it wants to swallow an S54. When my car is around an M5 it hides it's jewels up behind the rear bumper. [emoji20]

[slater]

I got married.

congrats stephen!!!



My "new" M5, just in from EAG, after driving cross-country the last 3 days.. my Z4M is going back to Cincy (by truck) in trade. More info/pics in the next few days.. here's a shot en-route taken somewhere outside St Louis on Friday...

wow, congrats kevin!!



S62 sounds like it wants to swallow an S54. When my car is around an M5 it hides it's jewels up behind the rear bumper. [emoji20]

agreed. S62, especially sans rear mufflers, sounds absolutely indescribably bad A when you're in the throttle. i want one.

peter

[BMWCurves]

S62 sounds like it wants to swallow an S54. When my car is around an M5 it hides it's jewels up behind the rear bumper. [emoji20]

The S62 is one of my all time favorite sounding motors. You can have wailing V-12s, sonorous V-10s, raucous I-6s, and a myriad of other set ups, but that German V-8 will remain pure automotive symphony to my ears.

[QC_ZHP]

S85 is god

[slater]

S85 is god

nope, God is God, man.

S85 just sounds good. :)

peter

[stephenkirsh]

nope, God is God, man.

S85 just sounds good. :)

peter

He said god, not God. Two different things ;)

[az3579]

S85 is god

This. IMO the best sounding motor BMW ever made in a standard production car.

[cakM3]

This. IMO the best sounding motor BMW ever made in a standard production car.

+1

[johnrando]

Beauty Kevin!

[Pip]

Yes!!! Now I shall search YouTube and imagine you driving like a bat outta hell back home haha

[Rovert]

20937

Was invited to an ///M owner's preview of Mission Impossible 5!! All I can say is that the parking lot was ridiculously filled with ///M's and the movie franchise is still living up to their name of excitement that leaves you thinking how impossible becomes possible.

[Pip]

Sweet! Get to go to see it on Friday for a work event.

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[Rovert]

Don't try driving the ///M like Tom does. You'll need a truck load of your car so you have one left untouched for the driveway. LOL

[cakM3]

20937

Was invited to an ///M owner's preview of Mission Impossible 5!!

Nice!! :thumbsup

[Fenrir]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/30/8d18aeff52a00c3bd5febae8ff50a422.jpg

Bath day for the cars. Just finished the truck. Now its the ZHP's turn.

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[ZacharyMikel]

New wheels today. BC coils will be here next Thursday [emoji106]🏻http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/31/719bddbe3ca8ada9309b1e860fd72090.jpg


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[Fenrir]

Those wheels look great!

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[ZacharyMikel]

Those wheels look great!

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Can't go wrong with good ol' Apex's!


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[DasBoost]

20954
Update pic from Breitling Autoworks. The replacement Khoalty lens covers were much more convenient than trying to refinish the originals. Does anyone have experience with Lamin X products from Mod Bargains? We may demo their Venture Shield Paint Protection Kit. Have a great weekend!

[KevinC]

The new beast, sitting ready for my departure from EAG, a week ago yesterday. I'll have more pics and driving impressions in a week or so as I'm about to head out of town again. I will say this - in my short time with the M5, it's made me really appreciate the virtues of the ZHP and what it brings to the table. They are 2 completely different machines, both brilliant in their own ways...

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/BMW-E39-M5/i-WFcXLDX/0/X2/IMG_6497-X2.jpg

[bandwagn]

representing the mafia at the ice cream cruise in omaha today https://www.facebook.com/OmahaIceCreamCruise

20955

[3ZHP]

Three Imola's from Nashville's Cars n Coffee, this morning.

Non member left, mine center & 330I Lover to the right

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss351/3zhpguy/Coffee-n-Cars%20Nashville%20Style/2015/20150801_Nashville_Cars_n_Coffee_0022.jpg (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/3zhpguy/media/Coffee-n-Cars%20Nashville%20Style/2015/20150801_Nashville_Cars_n_Coffee_0022.jpg.html)

[Vas]

A lowered zhp Looks great

[ELCID86]

Three Imola's from Nashville's Cars n Coffee, this morning.

Non member left, mine center & 330I Lover to the right


Nice. Hope you asked him to join.


Thumbs, iPhone, TaT.

[az3579]

representing the mafia at the ice cream cruise in omaha today https://www.facebook.com/OmahaIceCreamCruise

20955


I miss seeing that color combo in person. :thumbsup

[ZacharyMikel]

A lowered zhp Looks great

+1


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[3ZHP]

Standing Guard yesterday in Bell Buckle, Tn.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/03/46370b1ff07da891a13214315f8a4213.jpg


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[QC_ZHP]

Sweet picture

[johnrando]

Great pics all!

[Rovert]

20983

Dumped the car on the roadside overnight to go grab my friend's boat to find a nice secluded beach to camp on!!

[Fenrir]

Gorgeous

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[Sockethead]

Nice mountains in the background... I bet it's beautiful there this time of year

[danewilson77]

Gorgeous

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+1

Nice mountains in the background... I bet it's beautiful there this time of year


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[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/3afc9158ad7952a3e6752e4e2d3746eb.jpg

[squashman702]

Wheeled the ZHP.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/squashman702/Mobile%20Uploads/20150808_173648_zpsztdxedsd.jpg (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/squashman702/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150808_173648_zpsztdxedsd.jpg.html)
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/squashman702/Mobile%20Uploads/20150808_173601_zpsufmqh9bz.jpg (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/squashman702/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150808_173601_zpsufmqh9bz.jpg.html)

[Rovert]

20997

[Fenrir]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/1d86ba7f6ab83d57999e0f24a72d7fb7.jpg

Woohoo! Maintenance day.

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[stephenkirsh]

Work party forced us to park into the vineyards a bit.


21003

[TigerTater]

Work party forced us to park into the vineyards a bit.


21003

Lol. Almost could drive right down the rows.

[Jconlin16]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/11/7523656eeddd6af51d3fe86f497d8c4e.jpg

Finally got a set of OEM euro clears and I love them. Now I just need to lower the rear a little more...

[stephenkirsh]

Lol. Almost could drive right down the rows.

I thought about it, but decided best not to get stuck in my car in my own vineyards at work haha.

[KevinC]

The "new" M5, with the ZHP lying in wait in the garage. She's now all properly titled & licensed in Arizona. Insurance is slightly cheaper than my Z4MC was, and the license tag was downright cheap, thanks to 13 years of depreciation. I must say - despite all the strong points of the E39 M5, it also makes me appreciate the finer points of the ZHP. I love them both. Even if most of my friends/family won't understand that they aren't the same car....

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/BMW-E39-M5/i-PPvL3Xn/0/X2/IMG_6667-X2.jpg

[Vas]

Miss the z4mc though ?

[cakM3]

The "new" M5, with the ZHP lying in wait in the garage. She's now all properly titled & licensed in Arizona. Insurance is slightly cheaper than my Z4MC was, and the license tag was downright cheap, thanks to 13 years of depreciation. I must say - despite all the strong points of the E39 M5, it also makes me appreciate the finer points of the ZHP. I love them both. Even if most of my friends/family won't understand that they aren't the same car....

http://www.kcphotodump.net/Cars/BMW-E39-M5/i-PPvL3Xn/0/X2/IMG_6667-X2.jpg

Absolutely love it! a proper TiAg garage :thumbsup

[KevinC]

Miss the z4mc though ?

A little bit.. but not much. I was very careful in the months leading up to unloading it to make sure that I was ready to move on. I had a couple of long, soul searching drives with her and decided it was indeed OK to let her be free.

Getting used to the M5 is proving to be an interesting experience. It's sooo different from the ZHP. You really feel the heft of the car, and that's not all a good thing. The recirculating-ball steering - which all V8 E39's have, while the 6's have r&p - is a noted weak spot, and when you own a ZHP to compare it to, it's really glaring. It's over-boosted at low speeds, and quite vague on-center. I REALLY appreciate the ZHP steering when I jump back into that car, it's just so much more precise and "alive" in your hands. That's not to say the M5's steering "sucks", it's just not nearly as good. It's still light years better than the current electric setups, which feel absolutely wooden to me. But the ZHP is nirvana, especially when all your steering and suspension components are well-maintained, your alignment spot-on, and quality rubber is afoot. You guys out there with higher-mileage cars who have neglected some of this stuff - you really don't know what you're missing. Refresh those FCABS & shocks and whatever else might be shot, and you'll be amazed at how it can transform the car.

Doing business with EAG was a great experience. I got really decent money for the Z4MC, given the current state of the market. It fit their target car profile perfectly - one owner, zero paint/body work, lived its entire life in a "dry" state, stack of maintenance records back to the 1200-mile service, and relatively low mileage (57k), though not low by their standards, but low enough given the other particulars. I paid top dollar for the M5, but it had $6600 worth of work done on it prior to sale, including a new clutch & rear main seal, thrust arm bearings, power steering hoses, and a bunch of other stuff. Curiously, a clutch & seal job at EAG only retails for about $1500, including parts, which seems really reasonable. A good thing since these cars are noted clutch killers. In the next couple of weeks, I'll do a decent photo shoot and writeup of my overall impressions of the car. No plans to sell the ZHP, she's a keeper and I have too much invested at this point to walk away.

[JupiterBMW]

There is something very wrong with this picture... I purchased and own not one but TWO sweet ///M vehicles.... Yet, I've been driving a 328i base model and an X128i S drive... Yes, you're seeing that right, I have BOTH our cars at the dealer for service (neither of it regularly scheduled maintenance) and I have TWO courtesy vehicles...

I swear, I don't pay to own BMWs, I pay to continuously test drive their courtesy loaner fleet... :rofl

21030

[cakM3]

Yep!! Something is wrong with that picture Jon :scratchinghead

[JupiterBMW]

On the flip side... I actually got both of our vehicles back yesterday afternoon... Neither was free, but overall, both are running beautifully again and the bank isn't completely broken...

So, last night I went down to my buddy's house to work on his Exocet project (google it if you need!). Him and his wife own the two cars up front, my M3 in back, and our other buddy's M3 in back (Melbourne Red). The F10 is a new addition, its a 2014, FULLY loaded with competition package... I took it out and drove it and holy crap on fire!!! That thing is a complete animal!!!

Now, I regularly drive the X5///M and I have no problem driving that thing like a sports car. Its brutally fast, accelerates like nobody's business, and sticks hard due to AWD and the insanely wide tires... Now, the M5 has MORE power (575hp vs. 555hp in the X5///M), two less drive wheels, and about 2000 pounds less weight. That kind of power is essentially unusable... In M Dynamic Mode (some slip but still some assistance) the ass end is ALL OVER the place... The acceleration is brutal, and being coupled to the glorious DCT transmission, it is just such an insane performer... It makes the E90 M3 feel like a Honda. Hell, it makes the X5///M feel reasonable...

Wow, what a car... My buddy's car is a completely loaded car ($119k sticker price), Singapore Grey with Silverstone leather, an absolutely beautiful combo. His car did not get the Competition wheels, which I would have preferred, but still, no fault based on that. I am in love with that thing...

And on a side note, it makes me want to retrofit a DCT into the X5///M. And there's a guy selling a DCT transmission on the M3 forum... :shifty

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[az3579]

There is something very wrong with this picture... I purchased and own not one but TWO sweet ///M vehicles.... Yet, I've been driving a 328i base model and an X128i S drive... Yes, you're seeing that right, I have BOTH our cars at the dealer for service (neither of it regularly scheduled maintenance) and I have TWO courtesy vehicles...

I swear, I don't pay to own BMWs, I pay to continuously test drive their courtesy loaner fleet... :rofl

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Comes with the territory! Having a single M car isn't a cheap endeavor to begin with.

[Sockethead]

Having any BMW with a V8 ain't cheap...

[fredo]

How about a V10 ?

http://texascentralmotors.com/2006-BMW-M5/Used-Car/Austin-TX/6217474/Details.aspx

[Rovert]

Haha I drove 2000 miles with my friend in his E60 ///M and when I was nearing half way fuel in the ZHP he was radioing me that he needs to fill up.

[BMWCurves]

Getting used to the M5 is proving to be an interesting experience. It's sooo different from the ZHP. You really feel the heft of the car, and that's not all a good thing. The recirculating-ball steering - which all V8 E39's have, while the 6's have r&p - is a noted weak spot, and when you own a ZHP to compare it to, it's really glaring. It's over-boosted at low speeds, and quite vague on-center. I REALLY appreciate the ZHP steering when I jump back into that car, it's just so much more precise and "alive" in your hands. That's not to say the M5's steering "sucks", it's just not nearly as good. It's still light years better than the current electric setups, which feel absolutely wooden to me. But the ZHP is nirvana, especially when all your steering and suspension components are well-maintained, your alignment spot-on, and quality rubber is afoot. You guys out there with higher-mileage cars who have neglected some of this stuff - you really don't know what you're missing. Refresh those FCABS & shocks and whatever else might be shot, and you'll be amazed at how it can transform the car.

I agree with a lot of that. The E39 and the E46 are very different cars even though they're from the same general era. While it's not exactly your M5, I drove my father's E39 540i occasionally for years (he's owned it since new, almost 18 years old now). It's a fantastic long distance car, incredibly comfortable seats, quiet on the highway, has sufficient low down torque (320 ft-lbs) that is very accessible and makes passing easy, and a great engine sound. It was very capable in the bends, definitely more power than I'd ever need on the street. It was my performance benchmark. And I thought it had the best steering feel but all I had to compare it to were econoboxes, my inherited C4 Audi S4, my sister's Jetta, a friend's Saab 93, another friend's Mini, my mother's Volvo S40, etc. Then I got my '03 330Ci and although it lacked the torque of the 540i, it felt nimbler and more focused. Now that I'm in the ZHP, it's magnified. Stepping out of the ZHP into the 540i shows me how much more poised the E46 is than the 540i. It's got a much shorter ratio steering rack (I think the non-ZHP is 15.4, ZHP has 13.7:1, the E39 540i had 17.9(!), and the E39 M5 had 14.7) and weighs a lot less. The 540i has a fat ass that it likes to shake if you give it the chance. I didn't know the E46 and E39's used different steering mechanisms, but it would help explain some of the difference in feel.

All that said, they're different cars for different things. I am incredibly envious of your new (to you) M5. I've ridden in the friend of a friend's and it was an absolute hoot. Maybe not as precise as our ZHPs, but in some ways more exciting. And that V-8 :drools

[anandoc]

They actually put a decal with your username (Jupiter) on the X1?


There is something very wrong with this picture... I purchased and own not one but TWO sweet ///M vehicles.... Yet, I've been driving a 328i base model and an X128i S drive... Yes, you're seeing that right, I have BOTH our cars at the dealer for service (neither of it regularly scheduled maintenance) and I have TWO courtesy vehicles...

I swear, I don't pay to own BMWs, I pay to continuously test drive their courtesy loaner fleet... :rofl

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[JupiterBMW]

They actually put a decal with your username (Jupiter) on the X1?

:rofl I live in the town of Jupiter.... My dealership is Braman BMW Jupiter (they have another location in West Palm Beach)

[JupiterBMW]

A couple pics.... Today I got the color matched badges on the M3. Once again, I'm absolutely in love with the color matched look... The quality of the work is actually really good too.

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[theothersawyer]

So, last night I went down to my buddy's house to work on his Exocet project (google it if you need)

Exocets are a blast! They are located here in Atlanta and we have multiple come out to every track day! Crazy cars!

[az3579]

A couple pics.... Today I got the color matched badges on the M3. Once again, I'm absolutely in love with the color matched look... The quality of the work is actually really good too.

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I can't get over how TINY those badges are!

[JupiterBMW]

Yeah it's kind of weird/funny how they change them...


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[cakM3]

Looks good Jon :thumbsup

[rtotten407]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/13/8d0285b4328341309a8ecb6fa4f8f8c0.jpg

Daytona SCCA qualifying last weekend, they look right at home on the infield.


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[az3579]

Daytona SCCA qualifying last weekend, they look right at home on the infield.


Speaking from experience, the ZHP is even more at home on the track. :)

[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/13/69740daca4973bc9fcb3b4a957e89e2c.jpg

[3ZHP]

Throwback Thursday!

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss351/3zhpguy/2011/Cleveland2011_PS5_1024x.jpg (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/3zhpguy/media/2011/Cleveland2011_PS5_1024x.jpg.html)

[Rovert]

That's a sketchy photo. [emoji55]

[az3579]

That's a sketchy photo. [emoji55]
This is an even more sketchi photo. :shifty

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/97bf1766ba2fb66bb8f65b97edf194bf.jpg

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[Vas]

This is an even more sketchi photo. :shifty

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/08/97bf1766ba2fb66bb8f65b97edf194bf.jpg

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Lol

[Imola.ZHP]

The "new" M5, with the ZHP lying in wait in the garage. She's now all properly titled & licensed in Arizona. Insurance is slightly cheaper than my Z4MC was, and the license tag was downright cheap, thanks to 13 years of depreciation. I must say - despite all the strong points of the E39 M5, it also makes me appreciate the finer points of the ZHP. I love them both. Even if most of my friends/family won't understand that they aren't the same car....


Congrats Kevin, beautiful home and vehicles.


Absolutely love it! a proper TiAg garage :thumbsup

Love the new sig, not sure how "new" it is but I've been MIA for a bit.


There is something very wrong with this picture... I purchased and own not one but TWO sweet ///M vehicles.... Yet, I've been driving a 328i base model and an X128i S drive... Yes, you're seeing that right, I have BOTH our cars at the dealer for service (neither of it regularly scheduled maintenance) and I have TWO courtesy vehicles...

I swear, I don't pay to own BMWs, I pay to continuously test drive their courtesy loaner fleet... :rofl


Ouch. The i3 still hasn't been in for anything.... yet... knocking on wood. The tint shop did scratch both back windows though and has agreed to have them replaced. I hope I can talk the dealer into giving me a loaner when that goes down.

----

Just got back from a week in Tampa, Indian Rocks Beach to be more specific. Left the i3 in the garage, was happy to see her when I returned. Somehow (mass amounts of alcohol) I had forgotten about the rear windows issue (see above, the tint shop scratched them both, they have to be replaced by the dealer) while on vacation. So my happiness was cut off short by remembering that my 3 month old car has to be torn apart in the near future. BMW saved a TON of weight by using very few clips, bolts and screws on the i3. The car is aluminum, CFRP and plastic and mostly glued together. While the glass is relatively inexpensive ($165 each by my research) I don't know what the labor will be or what all will have to be done to replace them which makes me angst. The two of four doors that were opened up on my ZHP eventually had vapor barrier seal failures and of course there were rattles in that car which some might or might not have also came from being opened up. I hope to have this car just as long (9 years) so having her torn apart at 3 months is not sitting with me too well. On the other hand, accidents happen and at least the tint shop has agreed to take car of the damage.

EDIT: Also, I think I have talked my better half into taking my i3 and me getting a white one. I have to get this window situation worked out and figure out how to transfer the vehicle but we might end up a two BMW household in a month or two!

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11180643_10204643581317082_1016529214134152440_n.j pg?oh=6242263c9c334abc131cda1efde5331b&oe=56778591

[cakM3]

Love the new sig, not sure how "new" it is but I've been MIA for a bit.

Thanks! The sig is new...changed it last week :)

[webster]

Been a while.

[BMWCurves]

Nice. Arc8's? Color, size?

[UdubBadger]

Been a while.

:drool

Looks great on the Arc8s


GoingHAM mobile

[webster]

Yep, hyper black staggered 18s.

[johnrando]

Kevin, what a great set of cars! Joop, LOL. Glad your cars are back.

[Benno]

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Even in the original, un-restored, as-delivered trim it's the best looking car in the parking lot and on the paddock.
She is pretty, isn't she? She is going to look even nicer with some newer chromed 135's. Sorry about the old lady blocking the view; I'm not skilled enough to Photoshop her out.

[fredo]

No need to photoshop another enthusiast. :biggrin

[Benno]

Ha, I suppose you are right. It didn't take very long for her attitude to change from "I hate how hard it is to open your car door" to "when are you going to put gas in my car?"

[Rovert]

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[Hornung418]

Chrome wheels...please no.

[Vas]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/15/5b70cb6d9749da59a1ad8b7c2966a1bd.jpg

[Washburn]

Paid off ! Gretchen is mine :)

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/16/b0cd9c8b9a9ac1f2f3798a890ba4b444.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/16/0ffddea943e01650674e0653af5fbe2e.jpg


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[BMWCurves]

Congrats!

[danewilson77]

Woot!

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[Rovert]

It's a good feeling when you own something!

[Rovert]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/611/20027001763_cb2a732543_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wvHBTR)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/721/20461134999_b6e6eb66f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xb5EzD)

[az3579]

Paid off ! Gretchen is mine :)

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/16/b0cd9c8b9a9ac1f2f3798a890ba4b444.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/16/0ffddea943e01650674e0653af5fbe2e.jpg


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Looks like we bought our cars two days apart! Congrats on payoff!

[Fenrir]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/611/20027001763_cb2a732543_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wvHBTR)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/721/20461134999_b6e6eb66f5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xb5EzD)
So pretty :drool

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[san]

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[Rovert]

Do I see space saver on the rear??

[san]

Yep, the rim cracked...


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[Rovert]

:O how did it crack? I was lead to believe OEM was strong, heavy and indestructible by man....

[BMWCurves]

Nice (to the pic). Reminds me I need to paint my lower grille black.

[san]

:O how did it crack? I was lead to believe OEM was strong, heavy and indestructible by man....

I am really not sure how it happened, the tire lost about 10-15 psi everyday and when I got it inspected, realized it was cracked...


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[san]

Nice (to the pic). Reminds me I need to paint my lower grille black.

Thanks! Ya its on my list too...


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[stephenkirsh]

:O how did it crack? I was lead to believe OEM was strong, heavy and indestructible by man....

Not if its a style 135. Those things are cracking left and right these days.

[Sockethead]

They are no better that any other OEM cast wheel.
The guy at wheels America said the 6 series wheels are the worst

[az3579]

Not if its a style 135. Those things are cracking left and right these days.

Trevor was being sarcastic. :)

[stephenkirsh]

Oh. Ok lol

[az3579]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/7871c9cb3742ee832ea8c7f3ddd2d3a7.jpg

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[Rovert]

Haha can I have that for when the regulators die?

[az3579]

Haha can I have that for when the regulators die?

Sure, why not. :)

[BMWCurves]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/7871c9cb3742ee832ea8c7f3ddd2d3a7.jpg

Helpful! It looks a lot nicer than the two tinting shops I've been to. One used masking tape and the other blue painter's tape...on only one side.

[JupiterBMW]

It's happened again...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/80c69e08855fb49068a333165c602915.jpg


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[3ZHP]

Something doesn't look right!


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[danewilson77]

It's happened again...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/80c69e08855fb49068a333165c602915.jpg


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Damn Jon.

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[JupiterBMW]

Yeah, as you can see, the X5 is in service again, same check engine light code. This time they brought in the BMW field service engineer and he started mentioning software compatibility issues. Apparently BMW continues to update a vehicle's software, even after that generation has completed production (for instance my E70). As you replace parts years down the road, the new parts may not be compatible with the older software in the vehicle. So, the DMTL pump that was just installed would've been set for 2015 software. Well, my X5 has 2013 software, so the engineer was saying that a full update might help everything talk to each other more cohesively and not throw the CEL. We'll see. He mentioned this being an issue a few years back with the older 7 series, to the point where they had to replace all the trap modules after updating software... But he said it's a very rare occurrence on the E70. Hoping for the best.


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[Sockethead]

Man, that sounds like the never ending nightmare of our e53. I hope that's not the case with yours.
It was so frustrating for us... Definitely a love/hate relationship....

[fredo]

Joop, on a positive note: nice new signature ! :thumbsup

[az3579]

Joop, on a positive note: nice new signature ! :thumbsup

I do like it quite a bit.

[slater]

Yeah, as you can see, the X5 is in service again, same check engine light code. This time they brought in the BMW field service engineer and he started mentioning software compatibility issues. Apparently BMW continues to update a vehicle's software, even after that generation has completed production (for instance my E70). As you replace parts years down the road, the new parts may not be compatible with the older software in the vehicle. So, the DMTL pump that was just installed would've been set for 2015 software. Well, my X5 has 2013 software, so the engineer was saying that a full update might help everything talk to each other more cohesively and not throw the CEL. We'll see. He mentioned this being an issue a few years back with the older 7 series, to the point where they had to replace all the trap modules after updating software... But he said it's a very rare occurrence on the E70. Hoping for the best.


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jon, that sucks. hope they get it resolved for you.

with every post like this you're helping me get over my desire for an E70... ;)

peter

[az3579]

with every post like this you're helping me get over my desire for an E70... ;)




E70 is not the same thing as E70 M. lol

[stephenkirsh]

Yeah, as you can see, the X5 is in service again, same check engine light code. This time they brought in the BMW field service engineer and he started mentioning software compatibility issues. Apparently BMW continues to update a vehicle's software, even after that generation has completed production (for instance my E70). As you replace parts years down the road, the new parts may not be compatible with the older software in the vehicle. So, the DMTL pump that was just installed would've been set for 2015 software. Well, my X5 has 2013 software, so the engineer was saying that a full update might help everything talk to each other more cohesively and not throw the CEL. We'll see. He mentioned this being an issue a few years back with the older 7 series, to the point where they had to replace all the trap modules after updating software... But he said it's a very rare occurrence on the E70. Hoping for the best.


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This is the exact reason I have no interest in cars newer than the e46. Too many useless electronics.

Hope you get it sorted out.

[slater]

E70 is not the same thing as E70 M. lol

it is for me. :)

peter

[Imola.ZHP]

Ha, they threw new software at my i3 trying to cure its CEL this week too. I think I might have cleared the CEL's when I cleared the other errors after coding. And then I lost all of the coding when they updated to the July 2015 software update. I'm not sure how long I can put up with the nag screens but I'm going to try to put up with them long enough to see if the CEL comes back. I had been successfully keeping it away by running the REx once or twice per week for 5-10 miles. I'd like to not have to do that, but then part of me thinks it might actually be good to run it once or twice per week anyway. We'll see...

[Vas]

This is the exact reason I have no interest in cars newer than the e46. Too many useless electronics.

Hope you get it sorted out.

Pretty much the same case here. Too many headaches and dealership visits versus driving and having a smile on your face.

[NoVAphotog]

Pretty much the same case here. Too many headaches and dealership visits versus driving and having a smile on your face.

:thumbsup

[ikeupinya]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/7871c9cb3742ee832ea8c7f3ddd2d3a7.jpg

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Had the same window button stickies put on for my tint installed last Friday. I didn't roll any windows for exactly a week, how long did you wait???

[az3579]

Had the same window button stickies put on for my tint installed last Friday. I didn't roll any windows for exactly a week, how long did you wait???
I'm only a day in... Lol

Pic for the day:

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[slater]

I'm only a day in... Lol

Pic for the day:

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what a pile of crap... your mirrors are broken!



:cheers


haha.



peter

[Vas]

I'm only a day in... Lol

Pic for the day:

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Looks good

[az3579]

what a pile of crap... your mirrors are broken!



:cheers


haha.



peter

They'd be even more broken if they weren't already pre-broken. lol



Looks good

Thanks Vas! :thumbsup

[squashman702]

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I took it a step further and unplugged my switches, had I not, I would've accidentally rolled them down within a few hours after getting it done haha.

[az3579]

I took it a step further and unplugged my switches, had I not, I would've accidentally rolled them down within a few hours after getting it done haha.


I've done a surprisingly good job not even touching them! I've only got one more day anyway. Unplugging them is definitely a good idea though, genius solution!

[cakM3]

yeah, you unplug the window switches then you don't have to worry about "accidental" movement of the windows while your tint sets on the windows...

[BMWCurves]

Not a good picture at all, but finding one of the best and last open spots in a very tightly packed parking garage :thumbup

21245

[Karl Lazlo]

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr216/Karl_Lazlo/Public/3%20in%20a%20crowd_zpsczz1bxss.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Lazlo/media/Public/3%20in%20a%20crowd_zpsczz1bxss.jpg.html)

[Rovert]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/647/20643048840_94e7e54fb5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xsa2eb)

[az3579]

Not a good picture at all, but finding one of the best and last open spots in a very tightly packed parking garage :thumbup

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21245&stc=1

Best feeling, isn't it? Parking garages SUCK but finding a spot like that makes everything better.


http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr216/Karl_Lazlo/Public/3%20in%20a%20crowd_zpsczz1bxss.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Lazlo/media/Public/3%20in%20a%20crowd_zpsczz1bxss.jpg.html)

Your wheels. Want.


https://farm1.staticflickr.com/647/20643048840_94e7e54fb5_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xsa2eb)

Fiesta in the pantalones.

[Karl Lazlo]

Your wheels. Want.


My wheels. You delivered. You had a chance.

Your brake calipers. I have.

[az3579]

My wheels. You delivered. You had a chance.

Your brake calipers. I have.

I'll get you back one day.

[slater]

Your wheels. Want.

sell me your CHs and buy a set? :)

peter

[az3579]

sell me your CHs and buy a set? :)

peter

Nice try. :shifty

[cakM3]

I haz ARC-8s ;)

[slater]

Nice try. :shifty

ha. worth the ask. :)

peter

[zYx]

While waiting to pick up some goods.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/24/7eb9ef85c3b39f2f1307e5dd801e4427.jpg

[san]

While waiting to pick up some goods.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/24/7eb9ef85c3b39f2f1307e5dd801e4427.jpg

So that's how my car would look with bbs wheels... I need to start saving...


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[cakM3]

So that's how my car would look with bbs wheels... I need to start saving...


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Yep! That's why I have two sets of BBS CH wheels in my garage....one for each car :)

[BMWCurves]

So that's how my car would look with bbs wheels... I need to start saving...

Haha I was thinking the same. I'm still set on purchasing a set of Apex Arc8's though.

[danewilson77]

Not a good picture at all, but finding one of the best and last open spots in a very tightly packed parking garage [emoji106]

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Awesome

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[danewilson77]

http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr216/Karl_Lazlo/Public/3%20in%20a%20crowd_zpsczz1bxss.jpg (http://s485.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Lazlo/media/Public/3%20in%20a%20crowd_zpsczz1bxss.jpg.html)
:like

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[cakM3]

Haha I was thinking the same. I'm still set on purchasing a set of Apex Arc8's though.

Either way you can't go wrong with the look. :thumbsup

[san]

Yep! That's why I have two sets of BBS CH wheels in my garage....one for each car :)

Yup, I have read both ur project threads from beginning to end... And they look so good on the ///M and Zhp...


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[san]

Haha I was thinking the same. I'm still set on purchasing a set of Apex Arc8's though.

Any particular reason?? Or just looks??


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[cakM3]

Yup, I have read both ur project threads from beginning to end... And they look so good on the ///M and Zhp...


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Loved the look of BBS CH wheels on your ZHP :thumbsup They really pop out against a very dark color :) Caught myself drooling just a bit ;)

[squashman702]

Don't worry, I strapped the board down after. Need (want) a fairing for the rack .

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/squashman702/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150824_192156_zps7hvx8j9n.jpg (http://s243.photobucket.com/user/squashman702/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150824_192156_zps7hvx8j9n.jpg.html)

[TigerTater]

Don't worry, I strapped the board down after. Need (want) a fairing for the rack .

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Nice. The ZHP looks so at home with a nice rack on top! Just adds to the sportiness

[BMWCurves]

Any particular reason?? Or just looks??

The BBS CH's and the Apex ARC-8's both look very good and suit our cars quite well in my opinion. Even so, there are two reasons I'm planning to go with the ARC-8's over the CH's.


Weight: The ARC-8's in 18x8.5" weigh around 18.5 lbs. The BBS wheels in the same size are something like 24-25 lbs, which is pretty close to the stock 135's (26-27 lbs). Years ago my father bought his NA Miata and I got to drive it around for a while before he swapped to a set of smaller diameter BBS wheels that weighed a lot less. The difference in handling was night and day. Where bumps used to unsettle the car, it was now planted over those same bumps. It used to be easy to break the back end loose, now it handles neutral like a go-kart. I'm hoping that getting a lighter wheel will have a similar effect on my car. I also plan to get new rubber (Continential ExtremeContact DW) when I get my wheels which should shed another couple of pounds over my current Toyo tires. Finally, I purchased a set of BMW Performance drilled rotors a while ago which supposedly save 3 lbs in each corner in the front and about 0.5 lbs in each corner of the rear. Combine all of those and I should drop about 13-5 lbs per corner and hopefully gain some improved handling/ride.
Price: ARC-8's new are $289 a wheel, not including shipping. New BBS CH's are something like $400-500 new. I'm sure I could find them used for cheaper, but I'd like to have new wheels. The added benefit of "saving" (relative) some money is that I (hopefully) won't be forced to sell my set of 135s. Finally, although I am perfectly happy spending money on making my car look good, I prefer to improve its performance first, so to me the $1200 spent on Apex's will feel like money more well spent than the $2,000 for new BBS' that weigh only slightly less than our stock wheels.


Those are my priorities, but for other people it can very well be different! Just my thoughts.

[az3579]

Weight: The ARC-8's in 18x8.5" weigh around 18.5 lbs. The BBS wheels in the same size are something like 24-25 lbs, which is pretty close to the stock 135's (26-27 lbs). Years ago my father bought his NA Miata and I got to drive it around for a while before he swapped to a set of smaller diameter BBS wheels that weighed a lot less. The difference in handling was night and day. Where bumps used to unsettle the car, it was now planted over those same bumps. It used to be easy to break the back end loose, now it handles neutral like a go-kart. I'm hoping that getting a lighter wheel will have a similar effect on my car. I also plan to get new rubber (Continential ExtremeContact DW) when I get my wheels which should shed another couple of pounds over my current Toyo tires. Finally, I purchased a set of BMW Performance drilled rotors a while ago which supposedly save 3 lbs in each corner in the front and about 0.5 lbs in each corner of the rear. Combine all of those and I should drop about 13-5 lbs per corner and hopefully gain some improved handling/ride.


They really don't make that big of a difference. I would know; I swap back and forth between 17-18lb Kosei K1's and my CH's all the time.

[slater]

Nice. The ZHP looks so at home with a nice rack on top! Just adds to the sportiness

yeah, it kinda does. after our camping trip recently, i had removed the thule carrier but had not taken the thule bars off yet, and my 8-year old son said, "dad, let's just leave those on, it looks so cool!" haha.



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They really don't make that big of a difference. I would know; I swap back and forth between 17-18lb Kosei K1's and my CH's all the time.

but how heavy are your race tires?? :)

seriously though, i notice a major difference between my summer (50lb wheel + tire weight) and winter (41lb wheel + tire weight) wheels. the suspension reacts faster and the car feels lighter on its feet with the winters.

i am a sensitive dude.

:cheers

peter

[Vas]

Removing rotating mass and un-sprung weight is always a good thing.

[az3579]

but how heavy are your race tires?? :)

They feel a lot lighter to pick up. I just don't notice much of a difference in the way the car feels between the two sets, not "enough" of a difference I should say.

You guys sure it isn't just the Placebo effect or something? lol

[NoVAphotog]

yeah, it kinda does. after our camping trip recently, i had removed the thule carrier but had not taken the thule bars off yet, and my 8-year old son said, "dad, let's just leave those on, it looks so cool!" haha.




but how heavy are your race tires?? :)

seriously though, i notice a major difference between my summer (50lb wheel + tire weight) and winter (41lb wheel + tire weight) wheels. the suspension reacts faster and the car feels lighter on its feet with the winters.

i am a sensitive dude.

:cheers

peter

I notice this as well going to the 44's and the Blizzaks...but I think it's more of the difference between staggered and square for me.

[slater]

They feel a lot lighter to pick up. I just don't notice much of a difference in the way the car feels between the two sets, not "enough" of a difference I should say.

You guys sure it isn't just the Placebo effect or something? lol

LOL. nope, but maybe your suspension is broke? :)



I notice this as well going to the 44's and the Blizzaks...but I think it's more of the difference between staggered and square for me.

well, you'd see different handling characteristics because of that (likely less understeer, but turn-in might feel crappy due to squishy sidewalls), but that wouldn't affect actual suspension reaction time.

peter

[NoVAphotog]

LOL. nope, but maybe your suspension is broke? :)




well, you'd see different handling characteristics because of that (likely less understeer, but turn-in might feel crappy due to squishy sidewalls), but that wouldn't affect actual suspension reaction time.

peter

Gotcha. It'll be different this winter...I went from the shitty runflats to the Blizzaks and was relieved to be on them. Going from the SS's to them will be more of a hit in the handling department. But... LSD + Blizzaks + Snow = Happy Dan.

[slater]

Gotcha. It'll be different this winter...I went from the shitty runflats to the Blizzaks and was relieved to be on them. Going from the SS's to them will be more of a hit in the handling department. But... LSD + Blizzaks + Snow = Happy Dan.

i hear ya! i've got der Super Sports on as well, and will have LSD + x-ice3's on this year. :) plus reinforced subframe (well, floor cavity, not subframe) and new bushings throughout... yeah, it will be fun. :)

peter

[Vas]

I need a set-up for winter. Not going through another one on straight summer tires.

[Rovert]

I drove my friends ///M3 with his auto cross setup. 17" ARC8 and grippy rubber. On the public streets compared to my 19" OEM wheels I only felt that his car picked up speed and slowed down a tad faster but it wasn't a "God" moment. Driving my friend's older '01 E46 ///M with possibly old VANOS seals made a bigger difference compared to my car since his felt really sluggish on the low end. LOL.

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Ahhhhh....nice to swap rides with my friend and drive with a third pedal. LOL

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[Fenrir]

Random cell shot from when I was home on vacation.

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[BMWCurves]

They really don't make that big of a difference. I would know; I swap back and forth between 17-18lb Kosei K1's and my CH's all the time.

Huh, weird, BP. I definitely noticed the difference in my father's Miata. It feels much more planted now, especially over uneven surfaces and he hasn't changed any other suspension components. It also helped in my buddy's Mini a bit, although I haven't driven that car that much so I can't speak from too much experience there. Either way it can't hurt to shed unsprung weight.


Removing rotating mass and un-sprung weight is always a good thing.

Precisely!


I drove my friends ///M3 with his auto cross setup. 17" ARC8 and grippy rubber. On the public streets compared to my 19" OEM wheels I only felt that his car picked up speed and slowed down a tad faster but it wasn't a "God" moment. Driving my friend's older '01 E46 ///M with possibly old VANOS seals made a bigger difference compared to my car since his felt really sluggish on the low end. LOL.

I don't think the mass saved from lighter wheels will improve the straight-line speed much. It might feel a little more "reactive" due to lower rotational mass, but I always assumed it was negligible unless the wheels you were coming from were made of lead or something.

Anyways, that should be enough input from both sides for San to decide on wheels!

:cheers

[rguti153]

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[johnrando]

:like the hat

[stephenkirsh]

I noticed a big change in acceleration and braking going from style 135s to 17" arc-8. Read my review in this forum.

They're well worth it.

[TigerTater]

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New Tires!!!

[BMWCurves]

Nice, what'd you go with?

[TigerTater]

Nice, what'd you go with?

Conti DWS. Went up to 40 profile in the rear. Very nice tires.

[NorCal-Dimitri]

A friend of mine was interested in buying his first BMW. I advised him to shoot for a ZHP. He sent me this today:
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[danewilson77]

Win

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[Rovert]

Sweet!! Has your friend gave you his first feeling of his new to him, ZHP?

[WOLFN8TR]

Looks like my old ZHP. Love that color!

[NoVAphotog]

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