BMW 330 ZHP Comp Brake rotors.....Dhu eeeeet!!!! Now!!! [Archive] - BMW E46 330 ZHP For Sale Forum

danewilson77

11-22-2010, 02:28 PM

I just ordered mine. I can't pass this price up....again....

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=20781560#post20781560

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/IMG_20101201_203935.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/IMG_20101201_203919.jpg

Alphatek45

11-22-2010, 02:55 PM

Thanks for the heads up! Front and rears ordered :)

adb1028

11-22-2010, 06:17 PM

very very tempting

zhpnsnv

11-22-2010, 06:54 PM

Eh, the bling's not my thing. More power to the good deal, though.

mimalmo

11-22-2010, 07:55 PM

I just might have to buy a set...

danewilson77

11-23-2010, 04:44 AM

Eh, the bling's not my thing. More power to the good deal, though.

I do not consider BMW cross drilled performance rotors "bling"

Alphatek45

11-23-2010, 05:38 AM

^ was wondering about that one tbh.

Washburn

11-23-2010, 02:33 PM

would it look weird if only the fronts are dilled and rears are not?

adb1028

11-23-2010, 02:43 PM

would it look weird if only the fronts are dilled and rears are not?

i dont think so. my mom's c300 is like that

danewilson77

11-23-2010, 04:09 PM

would it look weird if only the fronts are dilled and rears are not?

IMHO...I think it would look wierd....

jjcools

11-24-2010, 10:53 AM

IMHO...I think it would look wierd....

+1

But I have seen it on several cars. I have been looking at these rotors and might just pick them up and wait for mine to die.

jjcools

11-24-2010, 10:55 AM

Hey Dane, what pads are you planning to run with these rotors??

danewilson77

11-24-2010, 04:05 PM

Prolly an Akebono....or PBR ultimates....ceramic......

or may try something totally different. Ima do some research first.

I know I am gonna get the ECSTuning exact fit SS brake lines though....

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330i-M54_3.0L/Braking/Lines/ES252665/

Alphatek45

11-24-2010, 04:13 PM

My research is pointing towards Akebono currently. Still looking though.

MrMaico

11-25-2010, 09:27 AM

Good find Dane. These are the same ones I installed a couple months ago. I got mine from Tischer before they sold out of them. This is an even better price plus free shipping! I'm almost tempted to order a spare set of the fronts.

Here is a thread with more info about these by a guy that installed a set back in 2007. He paid $1200 for the set!

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=504694

When I did mine I found some places that recommend using some brake grease on the pins or some said to use it on the pins as well as back of the pads and where the pads slide on the caliper bracket. Bentley though said to install everything dry, no lube, which would be what I would agree with....grease just attracts dust and dirt. I even e mailed Mike Miller and asked him, his reply was "I always lubricate the back of the brake pads and the caliper slide points with high temperature anti-seize compound. It guards against brake squeak."

I ended up deciding to go with no lube, no problems/squeaks so far.

Like the guy mentions in that thread though, everything needs to be nice and clean. I bought one of these a couple years ago ($13 back then) and it's been maybe the best $13 I've ever spent.

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/grinders/1-4-quarter-inch-front-exhaust-air-angle-die-grinder-52848.html

I used it with a 2" wire wheel and it saved me at least a few hours of time getting everything spotless. I wish now though that I would have painted the calipers when I had them apart. This pic is obviously taken before I cleaned the calipers.

http://mrmaico.smugmug.com/Cars/BMW-ZHP-misc/IMG0670/1037693231_E2QHx-L.jpg

danewilson77

11-25-2010, 11:16 AM

OK....great info. Thanks bro...

Alphatek45

12-01-2010, 04:02 PM

Mine came on Monday. Cant wait to have a free Saturday to slap these bad boys on. Going to do Brakes/sensors as well. Prolly paint the calipers (Not red) too.

danewilson77

12-01-2010, 06:08 PM

Oh snap these things are sexy. I love it when I get parts that have German writing all over them....

pyreguy

12-01-2010, 06:14 PM

Those are too pretty to run with calipers and pads....:p

danewilson77

12-01-2010, 06:16 PM

Pics coming....

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/IMG_20101201_203935.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/IMG_20101201_203857.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/IMG_20101201_203919.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Maintenance%20and%20Misc/IMG_20101201_203957.jpg

az3579

12-01-2010, 07:19 PM

Wish they had slotted ones, then I'd get those. Don't like the drilled too much; prone to cracking. :(

It's weird because I have slotted rotors on my fronts right now but the previous owner says that the brakes were replaced all around by the dealer recently before I bought it. I didn't think BMW put slotted or drilled rotors on the cars??

danewilson77

12-01-2010, 07:30 PM

These are not drilled, and they are not prone to cracking. These are cast with the holes in them.

danewilson77

12-04-2010, 06:36 PM

Rears done...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20101204_204007.jpg

Marcus-SanDiego

12-04-2010, 07:21 PM

Rears done...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20101204_204007.jpg

Looks very nice.

kayger12

12-04-2010, 07:42 PM

Looking good DW

danewilson77

12-04-2010, 07:59 PM

Front...

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20101204_225236.jpg

kayger12

12-04-2010, 08:05 PM

Did you end up going with the Akebono pads?

danewilson77

12-04-2010, 08:13 PM

Pbr ultimate...

MrMaico

12-05-2010, 09:52 AM

Pbr ultimate...

Looks good Dane! Same pads I went with. Might not have quite the bite of the stock pads but honestly unless I actually think about it I'd never have noticed the difference. They work just great as far as I'm concerned. No noise and NO DUST! Well worth the trade-off if you ask me.

Barry

danewilson77

12-05-2010, 05:36 PM

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20101205_164338.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20101205_164316.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20101205_164354.jpg

kayger12

12-05-2010, 06:04 PM

Looks awesome. Nice work.

danewilson77

12-05-2010, 07:41 PM

17 year old put the left rotor on the right side and vice versa. Caught by a Bf.c member...lol.

danewilson77

12-15-2010, 10:29 AM

Something weird is going on with the site.

OBTW....rotors swapped sat.

az3579

12-15-2010, 02:40 PM

Please let me know how these stand up to brake fade, though I don't think you'll have much of a chance to try it in the winter...

danewilson77

12-15-2010, 04:44 PM

Will do boss.

SC4ME

12-28-2010, 04:07 PM

Thanks for the info.

I know a breakjob is in my near future (over 100k mi on car and bought at 42k mi CPO, also just replaced entire cooling system) so I just ordered a set for the front and the rear.

Also got some sparkplugs and a fuelfilter. Baby should be ready for many years to come (fingers crossed :eeps )

danewilson77

12-28-2010, 04:24 PM

Nice....so they are still on sale?

04ZHP_PDX

01-03-2011, 07:33 PM

Followed your directed DW and mine are coming on Wednesday. So excited. I'm still researching pads though and am leaning toward the Akebono's. I don't need extreme stopping power and don't want to be replacing them everything few thousand miles.

Thanks again for the heads-up on these sir.

danewilson77

01-03-2011, 07:51 PM

Np.....pbr ultimates are also good.

SC4ME

01-03-2011, 08:35 PM

yes, sale is still on. I also have not committed on the pads yet. Have time so no rush.

Go Horns!

01-24-2011, 10:06 PM

I just bought two sets for the front and one for the rear, and I haven't even bought a ZHP yet. I guess I am committed to buying a ZHP now. I figure the right one will pop-up eventually and I didn't want to miss out some sweet rotors at a great price.

danewilson77

01-25-2011, 04:04 AM

Very nice...planning. lol.

They will fit any 330Ci/i.....though I hope you get a ZHP...

MasterC17

01-27-2011, 05:13 PM

I ordered a set of Fronts from ECS Tuning, $150 shipped. For an extra $25 over factory one's from the dealer I couldn't pass it up, even though my current rotors have plenty of life left. I figured I'd need rotors eventually and I'd never find these at this price again, plus they'll be great for Auto-X/Track. What I love about them is that they're a true floating rotor (front's only) and they are cast so they won't crack like drilled rotors. Definitely would advise everyone on here to buy a set if you plan on doing rotors anytime soon. They will look and function great!

danewilson77

01-27-2011, 05:42 PM

Mtnman

01-27-2011, 07:15 PM

damn you guys! now i have new front rotors and akebono pads on the way. I am spending so much money because of all you guys right now. i mean crap! i need to get another job just to pay for all the stuff zhpmafia has "made" me buy! Thanks a lot guys.:facepalm

danewilson77

01-27-2011, 07:44 PM

I have three jobs. Join the club.

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Rovert

02-20-2011, 05:24 PM

Are there any longterm test results from these rotors? I was thinking to switch to slotted for better structural integrity but these prices are very tempting. The look of these rotors are extremely heavy duty compared to even my Zimmerman's and Brembo's. The concern I've had is that my front Zimmerman's are developing slight hairline fractures at the holes. My rear Brembo's are holding up much better but still happening a bit. I know I can punish my brakes at times but probably not as much now since the police have really cracked down with unimaginable fines and discipline with serious spirited driving.

Also from the guys who have stuck with the same brake pad and switched to these perforated rotors, what did you notice in braking?

I know when I switched to perforated I felt a loss of initial bite even with the OEM pads. I guess it's the loss of extra friction where the holes would have been filled in the past. But that made up for when I was at the track I could repeatedly brake aggressively and not feel heavy brake fade compared to when I had OEM blanks.

danewilson77

02-20-2011, 05:30 PM

These holes are cast vice drilled so it is my belief the risk of cracking is low.

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Rovert

02-20-2011, 05:33 PM

I don't mind if they develop hairlines....as long as they don't explode in my wheel...LOL. My Zimmerman and Brembos which are both advertised as cast, have hairlines but it's not concerning me yet as I've never heard of an instance of random detonation!

My main concern is how the braking feels.

MasterC17

02-21-2011, 04:40 AM

As stated these are actually cast with the holes - not drilled. Therefore, the structural integrity of the rotor is not compromised as with most. Also, the fronts are a floating design - basically it allows the rotor to vent itself allowing the rotors to run a lot cooler compared to regular rotors, therefore cutting down the risk of cracking. The rears are not a floating design but they are cast. For comparison here is what bigjae1976 got out of his rotors.

UUC Slotted - 2 Sets in 5k Miles
BMW Performance: 25k Miles + 10hrs track time

I'd say if your running them on the street you will never beat on them enough to crack them and wear-wise they should last as long as the factory rotor.

Comparison between floating and not floating (secono330ci):

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4851462690_64c4fafc73.jpg

Mtnman

02-21-2011, 04:40 PM

Done this weekend. Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads. So far, initial bite is just as good as stock if not better. Its only been 3 days, but im happy as i could be! Ill post again in a couple weeks to verify all this preliminary info.

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i398/booneflyfisher/2011-02-19_13-00-53_429.jpg

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i398/booneflyfisher/444563770_photobucket_1324_.jpg

Also, Trevor, we were talking about rotor direction in a previous thread. If yours are not floating, then direction wont matter. The veins in the BMW performance rotors kind of swirl like an inline fan, so their direction matters. just to clarify from earlier.

danewilson77

02-21-2011, 04:43 PM

Yours are on correctly.

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Radarcontact

02-22-2011, 09:47 AM

Hi guys, new member here.

I already have the rotors (sitting in my garage!). Was thinking about Hawk Ceramic pads. Anyone have experience with these?

Also, I have noticed a strong sentiment on the boards against BMWs with RED calipers. Is this because of "ricers" maybe having red calps?
Or because they aren't huge Brembos?
I'm sorta bummed...I've always liked the red, but don't want to be the "red-calipered stepchild"!
Are they even worth painting if not painted red? Black and silver would not be noticed, or is that the point?
How about bright yellow?! ;)

Smilez

02-22-2011, 09:50 AM

paint them black or silver. Red calipers should be kept on BBK :D

I've had hawk pads and were great. Right now i'm running stoptech pads and love them too. Next pads will probably be PBR XGB pads.

danewilson77

02-22-2011, 10:08 AM

paint them black or silver. Red calipers should be kept on BBK :D

I've had hawk pads and were great. Right now i'm running stoptech pads and love them too. Next pads will probably be PBR XGB pads.

:shifty

Smilez

02-22-2011, 10:18 AM

:shifty

i'm a swinger. i like to test out my products too you know.

danewilson77

02-22-2011, 10:35 AM

Red calipers should be kept on BBK :D

I've had hawk pads and were great. Right now i'm running stoptech pads and love them too. Next pads will probably be PBR XGB pads.

:shifty

:shifty

i'm a swinger. i like to test out my products too you know.

:shifty

You missed it

Smilez

02-22-2011, 12:30 PM

still am :rofl:

Kudos

02-22-2011, 02:37 PM

Rovert

02-22-2011, 02:49 PM

No matter what kind of wheel you have, brakes shouldn't make wheels noisier. I'm failing to understand the question.

danewilson77

02-22-2011, 02:57 PM

I think he meant rotor.....since that is what this thread is about.....

and no....caliper or rotors shouldn't radiate noise.

Mtnman

02-22-2011, 04:01 PM

I have the floating drilled rotor, just changed from oem blanks. Neitther make noise. So either I don't understand the ?, or u have a problem we need to diagnose. Please advise.....

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MrMaico

02-23-2011, 05:10 AM

Hey i have a question. I'm not into super fast braking and ripping my spleen and intestines with the seat belt, but i do care about wheel noise. do the front calipers make less noise or more noise since they are floating?

AFAIK it shouldn't matter, mine don't make any noise with PBR Ultimate pads. These aren't a full-floating rotor like some motorcycle ones I've seen where you can actually feel the rotor move separately from the hat. And I didn't use any type of lube/paste anywhere on the pads or pins, just use some anti-sieze between the rotor and hub. The key is to have everything completely clean for assembly.

Mtnman

02-23-2011, 05:53 AM

These aren't a full-floating rotor like some motorcycle ones I've seen where you can actually feel the rotor move separately from the hat. And I didn't use any type of lube/paste anywhere on the pads or pins, just use some anti-sieze between the rotor and hub. The key is to have everything completely clean for assembly.

2 good points. Yes, these are not the true floating rotors like on some motocycles. Also, yes, wire brush on the hubs after you take the old rotors off, and clean them so everything sits flush. I did not use anti seize (crap...prob should have...these are going to be a royal PITA on removal!) but did use anti squeal paste where the pad touches the caliper. Look at this pic and you can see the silver paste on the back of the pad)

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i398/booneflyfisher/2011-02-19_13-00-53_429-1.jpg

Hope that helps some..

danewilson77

02-23-2011, 06:04 AM

On the back of the brake pad...right? You said rotor.

Mtnman

02-23-2011, 06:12 AM

On the back of the brake pad...right? You said rotor.

Yeah, crap, don't do that! fixed!!! back of pad....

MrMaico

02-23-2011, 06:40 AM

2 good points. Yes, these are not the true floating rotors like on some motocycles. Also, yes, wire brush on the hubs after you take the old rotors off, and clean them so everything sits flush. I did not use anti seize (crap...prob should have...these are going to be a royal PITA on removal!) but did use anti squeal paste where the pad touches the caliper. Look at this pic and you can see the silver paste on the back of the pad)

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i398/booneflyfisher/2011-02-19_13-00-53_429-1.jpg

Hope that helps some..

I debated using some paste on the pad, I even went and bought some, but decided to try it without first and if I had noise I could always put some on later. My old 2002 used to have squeaky brakes and I got to where I could pull the front wheels and pads and spray some anti-squeal on in about 15 minutes. I also debated a putting a little lube on the ears of the pads where they slide on the carriers and on the guide pins but left those dry too.....IMO the less lube/grease to attract dust the better. Bentley said to assemble dry but many DIYs say to lube. I even went so far as to e mailing Mike Miller and he said he lubes the ears and pins but I decided to try dry first.

Kudos

02-23-2011, 08:35 AM

danewilson77

02-23-2011, 08:40 AM

Majority of road noise is tires...

MrMaico

02-23-2011, 08:52 AM

I know the rotors themselves don't make noise, but since they sit on the hub, they add rotational mass and cause some noise. I thought that the floating brake hub would reduce the road noise you hear transmitted from the wheels to the brakes into noise inside the cabin.

Gotcha......no, like Dane said, not much you can do about that other than get new tires. When I went from my 3/4 worn Bridgestone RE040's to Hankook Ventus V12's it was like driving a new car though. So much quieter!

Kudos

02-23-2011, 09:10 AM

ok. i'm running michelin pilot sports i think, and they are down to about 6/32 or so. *sigh* time to get new tires. i'll try tirerack as they are one of our sponsors.

Marcus-SanDiego

02-23-2011, 09:14 AM

Kudos, use this link to get there. Also, there is a $70 gift card deal if you buy Michelins again.

Tire Rack affiliate link (http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-4193730-10650627).

See left hand side of landing page.

MasterC17

02-23-2011, 04:20 PM

ok. i'm running michelin pilot sports i think, and they are down to about 6/32 or so. *sigh* time to get new tires. i'll try tirerack as they are one of our sponsors.

No real need to change until you're down to about 3/32nds. Also, the performance rotors are 3lbs lighter than the factory rotors so less rotational mass!

az3579

02-24-2011, 02:52 AM

Yeah, it's a pretty big waste to change tires at 6/32. That's still over half its life left depending on how much tread it came with new.

danewilson77

02-24-2011, 04:06 AM

Let's try to keep this in the realm of a BMW Performance rotor discussion.....thanks, fellas.

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MasterC17

02-24-2011, 07:57 AM

Take note front rotors are SOLD OUT. Never again will you be able to buy them; anywhere. Rears are still available. So tempted!

danewilson77

02-24-2011, 08:06 AM

Why do you say never again? Where did you hear that?

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MrMaico

02-24-2011, 03:30 PM

Take note front rotors are SOLD OUT. Never again will you be able to buy them; anywhere. Rears are still available. So tempted!

Not at that price anyways. These are the updated version.....with updated price.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=755877&siteid=214672&catalogid=4462

I was kinda surprised the old ones lasted this long because Tischer had a special on them for quite a while before ECS started their closeout pricing.

MasterC17

02-24-2011, 05:46 PM

Why do you say never again? Where did you hear that?

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What Maico said. These specific rotors with these specific part numbers are completely sold out to my knowledge. I think ECS was the last to stock them. Production ceased last year so no new one's will be made. There is an updated version as Maico said to replace them but they will cost you $600 for the front set (retail). I was also surprised they lasted so long. I really want to buy the rear's before they sell out as well.

danewilson77

02-24-2011, 05:49 PM

OK fellas. I didn't get that the P/N had been discontinued...

Mtnman

02-24-2011, 05:50 PM

DAMN!!! 450 for the set? Why?? what makes them worth more than my "drilled" ones? Crap.. glad i ordered when i did. Maybe these will be on close out when i need new ones!

MasterC17

02-24-2011, 07:58 PM

DAMN!!! 450 for the set? Why?? what makes them worth more than my "drilled" ones? Crap.. glad i ordered when i did. Maybe these will be on close out when i need new ones!

The new ones aren't worth more. The old ones were being discontinued so they put them at closeout prices. Remember, the old ones you just ordered retailed for almost $700 prior to closeout pricing.