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Pmcinema
03-11-2022, 01:39 PM
Been having difficulty with my side mirrors - basically not working. Went to the junk yard and pulled a pair to replace mine. Come to find out - the mirrors come with different wiring - ribbon style vs 6-8 actual wires. On my '03 ZHP sedan, the mirror come with the ribbon style, unbeknown to me. Is the ribbon style only on ZHPs? or is it a 'face lift' thing? I'm trying to locate a pair of the ribbon style and they seem a bit difficult to find. Any thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks

cakM3
03-11-2022, 01:56 PM
Facelift sedans had side mirrors with ribbon cabling. Try eBay. I was able to source an extra set of (driver/passenger) side mirrors for my ZHP there...

Pmcinema
03-11-2022, 02:22 PM
Ok - facelift cars. Thanks - I'll look for sedans newer than '02. Do you know if coupe side mirrors will work on sedans?

PdZHP
03-11-2022, 03:07 PM
No to coupe mirrors.

cakM3
03-11-2022, 03:41 PM
Do you know if coupe side mirrors will work on sedans?

as PdZHP posted above, no they won't work... you need to get the sedan ribbon motor side mirrors.


You can purchase this used set of side mirrors (this is what I would recommend you getting)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194847098195?hash=item2d5dcac553:g:CgQAAOSwGlJiDx8 6


Here's a used driver's side mirror on eBay that you can get

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144359794902?fits=Year%3A2004%7CModel%3A330i%7CMak e%3ABMW&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item219c83a8d6:g:bToAAOSw0gFh1v~D&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACsPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkP rKr5t53CooMSQt2orsS9d9gBrkNbRQtRn8MVXnYkqjVEqlJZNi OuEcALuaofTUFUkpBYQ%252BtsylIOScaqmBDxJ3%252Buy8ZL %252BXJpBHgRzRQviQG8O3RQcNNBBbfOgPf6kRNDIzShIrV3%2 52FN4MsIAEUMeSMnC4lDYlHEwwCprGsZOfXPo5yIIQi77%252B O37NYpXaG%252B0eUHQ5NeT4%252FDqu8zJUsIwwB78V12PPOn a2cfGXWPvIrTc3hK17PFnR%252Fa1VAh46j0GK6WVW3Jhf6wHg W%252FJEhzlsfNfwsBWmMGz9W%252BVo%252FxVd1xB6TYnU4% 252BMgrOwSClLYF9BGbFbA0%252FDEtjaBn8ZI9OMInBZIzEB5 F86EL6%252FsVxPVQ5YNpNiUTVF3AiwSWI2P%252FLb6XR2oyo kxR%252Fo%252Fax%252BkkrpPb9uGuSYCvv2C80Z5GXAmlWOC lQSCT29D3KXwqsCfYStjwBZzaRXkRNSQ8WfTWIwA2IMMPkm3k5 lYpRuSjr9gAWH9tSgd6AVPbPwIpXk2iL6sx9EtxQK2M%252F7G oNxHxJRC7LpMt0UueYNENlNiAYy%252F8yQchUgdjc3dAugiD9 8cwRRiF1A0l%252F9nDQWEazuoQWj0fEpkFVc7EQ7rIaGOu40t 3l9e8nRgxZX4SyN%252B4e8%252BYLgs7zGz8l3djSHXsqmUiy tcoK%252FNsatfY90TwCRb0xgnaVXyTh8KVVbQ9GXQELWEnOmQ XldCSbiZzgBQwi5rSK6Sl4yVU53lgtf8N49MIW0PWH4403J3yO Vnqi34jFGBLfoOvzg%252Ble1IeZbafOIcVxdjbRQen9924aJl TGlyoNa%252F1tlMLBM%252BjiGwWGn%252BLAmXwD7SZDm7jF nzJNsk6yhvtrYC9bVVt8PytJ3SlcWJ9KczE93fJPSyp1IxRxrx d7TYhM%253D%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBM7vCltu9f

right now I don't see any passenger side mirrors with ribbon cabling... this is it for what's on eBay.


If you're going to buy the mirror motors brand new then expect to dish out lots of cash for them... currently their pricing is crazy...

Driver's side mirror motors
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51932979069_dd3ddc50f5_c.jpg

Passenger side mirror motors
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51932652341_2d3d8fe217_c.jpg

az3579
03-11-2022, 05:15 PM
Facelift sedans had side mirrors with ribbon cabling. Try eBay. I was able to source an extra set of (driver/passenger) side mirrors for my ZHP there...

Not all facelift sedans had ribbon motors. My early 2003 touring (12/2002 build) has wires instead of ribbons.

I think the switch probably happened 03/2003 and later, as there are several things that changed in 03/2003 for the "2003.5" model year (HVAC controls are the newer style, secondary MAF added for the M54B30 cars, 6-speed tranny replacing the 5-speed for 330's, addition of a third rear headrest for sedans, etc.)

alexandre
03-13-2022, 07:03 AM
Not all facelift sedans had ribbon motors. My early 2003 touring (12/2002 build) has wires instead of ribbons.

I think the switch probably happened 03/2003 and later, as there are several things that changed in 03/2003 for the "2003.5" model year (HVAC controls are the newer style, secondary MAF added for the M54B30 cars, 6-speed tranny replacing the 5-speed for 330's, addition of a third rear headrest for sedans, etc.)

My car had issues with these (ridiculously overpriced) mirror motors during my whole ownership. From looking into it back then this was exactly it. I had a 05/2003 with the ribbons. They were $300 a side back then and I never replaced them. $650+ is crazy. Especially since most yard cars probably all have the same issues so getting used ones isn't really feasible.

Pmcinema
03-13-2022, 07:32 AM
Thanks everyone for your input. I went to 4 pull ur part junk yards and after 27 e46s, there were only 3 cars that had the ribbon mirrors. So I bought 2 sets at $44 each mirror. And yes, not all the 'facelift' cars had the ribbon style, some had the normal sm wire harness.

Will
03-14-2022, 10:34 AM
By chance did you snag one from a ZHP coupe (gloss baseplate, and ribbon connector)? I'd be interested.

Pmcinema
03-14-2022, 12:33 PM
No unfortunately I did not. I have never seen a ZHP at the junk yards - they're a bit of a unicorn.

Will
03-15-2022, 07:36 AM
No unfortunately I did not. I have never seen a ZHP at the junk yards - they're a bit of a unicorn.

They really are a unicorn. All good, my search continues.