PDA

View Full Version : Starting issues / error codes help



rix617
01-02-2022, 11:39 AM
Hey guys,

I purchased a ZHP over the summer and shortly after realized it had an occasional cold start issue. Being summer in sunny California it rarely manifested and I didn't really drive it much as other ZHP is my daily until I sort this one out. Reading through service records from PO I see that it was taken for a diagnostic but they didn't identify the cause. Hoping you guys can help me out before I resort to taking in to a shop.

Symptoms only show up when the engine is cold (even sitting in the sun is enough warmth to prevent it). After engine start the car idles for 10-20 seconds and then the RPMs drop and it stalls Video 1 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zVIcwVv_H2chrMWUROYblJ-4BAI1On2P/view?usp=sharing). If I increase the throttle up to about 2000 RPMs it will still drop but it will recover before it stalls (the drop lasts about 1/2 a second). The other thing it does now is a very rough wave where it goes up and down rapidly between 900-1300 RPMs and then eventually stalls Video 2 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIOt7zJR-X3VLXQF-_axKTj2LiUTiTMW/view?usp=sharing).

I ran PASoft to read the error codes and there's quite a few but I'm not smart enough to pinpoint what the cause is. Here are the codes that come up - DME (https://drive.google.com/file/d/11ddBUY3rnSZ92kncNpSOF4qS6-vfK8Oe/view?usp=sharing) - EGS (https://drive.google.com/file/d/19GSW_-uUpl55nm2j6XDa9Mwibb7v6XIw/view?usp=sharing) - ABS (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S7j9A5XWjL5kqiw9i6g0_fGIPPlIScLU/view?usp=sharing) - LEW (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VbDysZIGhxVm0Xhi_yCO2gOhbZLxiiAq/view?usp=sharing)

Any thoughts would be appreciated. I just replaced VANOS seals, PO had the took it to the dealership for the same issue, they replaced the throttle body, SAP pressure line, and resealed DISA. He also had DME reflashed, replaced one of the VANOS solenoids, fuel pump and filter, and CCV.

fredo
01-02-2022, 01:00 PM
FYI : the EGS, ABS and LEW screens ask for google sign-on.

rix617
01-02-2022, 01:59 PM
FYI : the EGS, ABS and LEW screens ask for google sign-on.

Thanks, I changed the permissions. They should work now.

fredo
01-02-2022, 02:28 PM
They work now. Do you have EWS errors ? I needed to replace mine. But the symptoms were different: the car didn't start every now and then. All you could hear was the battery cranking. After 10 attempts or so, it would finally start.

sillieidiot
01-02-2022, 05:22 PM
This kind of sounds like a small vacuum leak. Have you checked the intake boots and stuff?

rix617
01-02-2022, 06:19 PM
They work now. Do you have EWS errors ? I needed to replace mine. But the symptoms were different: the car didn't start every now and then. All you could hear was the battery cranking. After 10 attempts or so, it would finally start.

I have one, it just says "Power on reset"


This kind of sounds like a small vacuum leak. Have you checked the intake boots and stuff?

My next step was to remove the intake book and inspect it myself, however the PO said they checked it and didn't see anything so I trusted them. The dealer replaced the hose that feeds into the SAP and the throttle housing assembly. Besides the intake boot any other hoses I should check?

rix617
01-21-2022, 09:32 PM
I resolved the issue finally. The DME had basically gone bad. Many of the codes in the photos I linked are a common symptom of a bad DME. I found a place called RPM Motorsport that does DME repair if you mail it to them. After reinstalling it the car runs perfectly. So happy to finally be able to drive the sedan instead of my wife's RAV4 :biggrin:biggrin

fredo
01-22-2022, 07:52 AM
That’s good news. Thanks for the update.