YoitsTmac
06-02-2021, 09:08 PM
Hi everyone! Before I throw my wallet at the car, I thought I'd ask for a second opinion from some of the brilliant minds here.
Video of the issues I'm seeing: https://youtu.be/W6lgR8zr_Yc
Symptoms:
So I have a vagueness in my wheel. When entering cross winds, I have to massively correct (20 degrees correction?). On my commute home, I'll be driving straight on a well-paved road and suddenly it'll pull in a different direction. Additionally, I hear a cluck under some low speed bumps. My Main Street to my house has some rough bumps and sometimes I will correct as much as roughly 30 degrees of steering. Or on my way to work on that same rough road, I can be pulling 20 degrees to the left and then need to steer straight, but both steering inputs keep the vehicle facing the same direction.
So here's what I've done: I sent it to my alignment shop figuring one wheel was seriously out of toe who then told me everything was in spec, and they checked the suspension while they were in there and also said they didn't see anything peculiar. I then went in myself to see anything, and my suspension seems really tight. I replaced the entire suspension about 25k miles ago and have been driving pretty calm for those last 10k. The rebuild includes coupler, tie rods, control arms, control arm bushings, and a gold-tag rack swap.
Why I suspect the steering column:
When inspecting my suspension, I suspected the steering guibo had gotten really loose. Also in a brief inspection, I could remove the airbox and grab the steering shaft and hear a clunk similar to what I sometimes felt in the floor while driving. Then once I got the car in the air, I noticed that where the top of the steering shaft met the bottom of the steering column met could move a lot.
So obviously the U-joint at the top of the steering shaft has to rotate, but it wouldn't make sense that that rotational point could move on the x or y axis for directness or steering feel. It would make sense that that could cause unpredictable steering. I also had my friend with a E85 Z4 (aka low E46) show me the play in his shaft, and he couldn't move his lower steering column if he tried.
Today I removed the footwell panel and found a similar amount of play. The upper shaft moved a little but I also suspect it isn't meant to take direct load. Nonetheless, I believe the bottom of the steering column should be a fixed point. I also suspect the damage is from having fat 255's up front, aggressive driving, a poly steering guibo and having the steering column pulled all the way outward.
Any feedback is appreciated!
Video of the issues I'm seeing: https://youtu.be/W6lgR8zr_Yc
Symptoms:
So I have a vagueness in my wheel. When entering cross winds, I have to massively correct (20 degrees correction?). On my commute home, I'll be driving straight on a well-paved road and suddenly it'll pull in a different direction. Additionally, I hear a cluck under some low speed bumps. My Main Street to my house has some rough bumps and sometimes I will correct as much as roughly 30 degrees of steering. Or on my way to work on that same rough road, I can be pulling 20 degrees to the left and then need to steer straight, but both steering inputs keep the vehicle facing the same direction.
So here's what I've done: I sent it to my alignment shop figuring one wheel was seriously out of toe who then told me everything was in spec, and they checked the suspension while they were in there and also said they didn't see anything peculiar. I then went in myself to see anything, and my suspension seems really tight. I replaced the entire suspension about 25k miles ago and have been driving pretty calm for those last 10k. The rebuild includes coupler, tie rods, control arms, control arm bushings, and a gold-tag rack swap.
Why I suspect the steering column:
When inspecting my suspension, I suspected the steering guibo had gotten really loose. Also in a brief inspection, I could remove the airbox and grab the steering shaft and hear a clunk similar to what I sometimes felt in the floor while driving. Then once I got the car in the air, I noticed that where the top of the steering shaft met the bottom of the steering column met could move a lot.
So obviously the U-joint at the top of the steering shaft has to rotate, but it wouldn't make sense that that rotational point could move on the x or y axis for directness or steering feel. It would make sense that that could cause unpredictable steering. I also had my friend with a E85 Z4 (aka low E46) show me the play in his shaft, and he couldn't move his lower steering column if he tried.
Today I removed the footwell panel and found a similar amount of play. The upper shaft moved a little but I also suspect it isn't meant to take direct load. Nonetheless, I believe the bottom of the steering column should be a fixed point. I also suspect the damage is from having fat 255's up front, aggressive driving, a poly steering guibo and having the steering column pulled all the way outward.
Any feedback is appreciated!