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DeathTrap
11-14-2018, 12:56 PM
The best shifting car that I've driven, with my limited experience, has been an AP2 Honda S2000.
The shift feeling is perfect, imo. It feels really mechanical, like well lubricated metal sliding together then locking into place.
Is there anyway to make the stock shifter less "rubbery" feeling? A refresh? Stiffer shifter bushings?
Newjack
11-14-2018, 01:06 PM
The best shifting car that I've driven, with my limited experience, has been an AP2 Honda S2000.
The shift feeling is perfect, imo. It feels really mechanical, like well lubricated metal sliding together then locking into place.
Is there anyway to make the stock shifter less "rubbery" feeling? A refresh? Stiffer shifter bushings?
A refresh kit is a good option to know exactly what it feels like from the factory. You could throw on an SSK afterwards for a more notchy feel if that's what you're after.
I had 130k miles on my shifter bushings before I replaced everything with a Rogue Engineering SSK and it was a world of difference.
It all depends on your budget.
A factory assembly has rubber and plastic that wears out so a refresh kit is the way to go if you want to retain the factory feel.
If you have more money to spend then an aftermarket ssk is the next option.
Btw I got a BMW performance ssk for sale. Easy to install from inside the vehicle.
To fully refresh or replace the shifter assembly you will need to remove the exhaust and driveshaft.
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DeathTrap
11-15-2018, 05:27 AM
Sounds like a good time to replace the guibo and CSB then.
I'm not sure how a stock shifter in good condition feels. I'm 90% sure that this car has the original shifter bushings on it, which have almost 190k on them...
I've seen several people either go AS or Rogue with minimal complaints.
Newjack
11-15-2018, 05:57 AM
Sounds like a good time to replace the guibo and CSB then.
I'm not sure how a stock shifter in good condition feels. I'm 90% sure that this car has the original shifter bushings on it, which have almost 190k on them...
I've seen several people either go AS or Rogue with minimal complaints.
I liked my Rogue SSK. I've also heard really good things about the BMW performance one Vas has for sale and would probably jump on that for the deal if I still had a ZHP and was in your situation.
az3579
11-15-2018, 06:23 AM
I have the BMW Performance shifter kit in mine. I have been very satisfied with it. I liked the stock shifter, but I needed to refresh the bushings and I got a great deal on a Performance shifter kit, so I installed it. It's different enough from stock to make it feel like a worthy upgrade, but it's not crazy short like a UUC kit.
Newjack
11-15-2018, 06:31 AM
I have the BMW Performance shifter kit in mine. I have been very satisfied with it. I liked the stock shifter, but I needed to refresh the bushings and I got a great deal on a Performance shifter kit, so I installed it. It's different enough from stock to make it feel like a worthy upgrade, but it's not crazy short like a UUC kit.
This sums up what I've heard OP. My Rogue kit was similar but a PITA to install. BMW SSK you dont need to drop the driveshaft, the Rogue kit you did.
Sockethead
11-15-2018, 08:00 AM
The best shifting car that I've driven, with my limited experience, has been an AP2 Honda S2000.
The shift feeling is perfect, imo. It feels really mechanical, like well lubricated metal sliding together then locking into place.
Is there anyway to make the stock shifter less "rubbery" feeling? A refresh? Stiffer shifter bushings?
If you want this feeling, go with the UUC short shifter and DSSR. I have this in my car for the last 8 years and it's still my favorite mod. It behaves just as you describe the Honda. The stalk is adjustable so you can raise or lower up to and inch or so IIRC
UUC really got it right with the e46. We also put one in the 135 and we just put one in the M2 but neither is as good as the one in the ZHP
ELCID86
11-18-2018, 04:39 PM
I had mine replaced with one from Auto Solutions and really like the feel. I’m sure any SSK would be an improvement, especially with the other bits being replaced.
http://autosolutions.net/
BMWCurves
11-18-2018, 06:24 PM
I have the UUC SSK with the DSSR. It's a very good option, but is quite expensive, and their customer service department fought me tooth and nail that I was wrong when they sent me an incorrectly manufactured part.
DeathTrap
11-19-2018, 07:17 AM
UUC is actually local to me, so I have the opportunity to show up at their doorstep for any issues lol.
It looks like I'll have to travel and drive some other ZHPs. I figured I would get several recommendations and I'm cool with that :thumbsup
DeathTrap
01-29-2019, 10:02 AM
Garagistic has a new piece
https://store.garagistic.com/bmw-performance-parts/bmw-3-series-parts/e46-performance-parts/Garagistic-Chassis-Solid-Mounted-Short-Shifter-E30-E36-E46-Z3-Many-Chassis
sillieidiot
02-02-2019, 12:05 PM
I like my custom AS SSK. I used to have the Rogue, and it's way better compared to that. You could specify the length of the lever and ratio however you want. I forced him to make a carrier for my car since he didn't make one at the time lol totally worth it.
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