Best Time to Buy Apex Arc-8's?

[Reasoned1]

After extensive research, soul-searching, wringing of hands, and continued bouts of self-doubt, I've decided to purchase 18"x8.5" ET38 Apex Arc-8's to replace the 135's on my stock ZHP (which are in primo condition), because I want light-weight wheels in the worst way (went with lighter wheels on my 330xi last year and was amazed--and that was only half this weight difference!). I also want a square set-up, and the only reason I'm going with 8.5" width is so I can continue to run the 225 and 255 PSS's on the car that are almost new (I'm sure eyes are rolling!). After they're worn out several years from now (I only plan to put a couple thousand miles on it each year), I plan to go with 235's or 245's, but I just can't wait that long for new, light-weight wheels. It's too bad, because I wanted 9" wheels and REALLY wanted a set of D-force LTW5's (although I'm probably better off with Apex).

Anyway, the point of this post is to ask, "Is there a best time of the year, and where at, to purchase Apex wheels?". It looks like I missed a group buy last year...

[holyc0w]

I'm sure another group buy will pop up for 18" ARC-8's this year. They ran a few last year.

[Vas]

I been waiting for the group deal to show up as well for the 18" arc8 wheels as well to ditch the style 135 wheels on my wife's zhp.

As much as I like the look, the finish is trashed and the weight of them is alot.

Hopefully they have a sale in the spring

[Reasoned1]

Fortunately, she's sitting in the garage right now, so the wait isn't killing me like it would if I was driving it. :)

[Vas]

Fortunately, she's sitting in the garage right now, so the wait isn't killing me like it would if I was driving it. :)

Similar situation here. I took of the 135s for a winter setup. Would love to put some new wheels after winter is over and install the tires I have on them which are still fairly new. ( stock tire size )

[Reasoned1]

How do I check for a group buy?

[holyc0w]

Groupbuyparts.com and they also post on e46fanatics as a sponsor.

[Reasoned1]

Sooooo, the day after I decided on 18x8.5" Arc-8's, Turner Motorsports marked their 17x8.5 Arc-8's (Satin Black and Hyper Silver) down 25%. Well, that blew my plans out of the water, and I decided there ain't no way I'm gonna run those 225's and 255's on 8.5" rims for the forseeable future. So, I threw money to the wind and ordered a set of Satin Black 17's and some 245/40/R17's to go with them. What am I going to do with my stock wheels and tires? Hell if I know!

[BMWCurves]

Welcome to the 17" APEX club!

[derbo]

Wohoo for 17s!! :D

I run 245/40/17 as well.

[NoVAphotog]

Sooooo, the day after I decided on 18x8.5" Arc-8's, Turner Motorsports marked their 17x8.5 Arc-8's (Satin Black and Hyper Silver) down 25%. Well, that blew my plans out of the water, and I decided there ain't no way I'm gonna run those 225's and 255's on 8.5" rims for the forseeable future. So, I threw money to the wind and ordered a set of Satin Black 17's and some 245/40/R17's to go with them. What am I going to do with my stock wheels and tires? Hell if I know!

Very nice. Welcome to the 17s club! Keep your stock wheels/tires. They are part of what makes the ZHP a ZHP.

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[Vas]

Sooooo, the day after I decided on 18x8.5" Arc-8's, Turner Motorsports marked their 17x8.5 Arc-8's (Satin Black and Hyper Silver) down 25%. Well, that blew my plans out of the water, and I decided there ain't no way I'm gonna run those 225's and 255's on 8.5" rims for the forseeable future. So, I threw money to the wind and ordered a set of Satin Black 17's and some 245/40/R17's to go with them. What am I going to do with my stock wheels and tires? Hell if I know!

Saw that as well. The 17's in hyper silver can be had for a really good price too.

$747 for a full set.

[UdubBadger]

Arc8's are very popular, only time I ever found their group buy for 17/18s was in late Fall. Could be wrong though.

[NoVAphotog]

Saw that as well. The 17's in hyper silver can be had for a really good price too.

$747 for a full set.

Good price.

[derbo]

I'm surprised how many of us run 17s. :)

[BMWCurves]

Saw that as well. The 17's in hyper silver can be had for a really good price too.

$747 for a full set.

Great price, $103 cheaper than I paid for my Hyper Black set.


I'm surprised how many of us run 17s. :)

Your car was one of the ones that pushed me toward 17s over 18s.

[Go Horns!]

17s for the win! Welcome to the club.

[jonnyd330]

Group buy on 18's just started. I'm in for a set https://www.groupbuyparts.com/apex-18-arc-8-wheels-q1-2017.html

I'm thinking of getting 8.5et38 up front and 9et42 in the rear. Anyone running that size? Know if they fit on a lowered car?


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[ZHPizza]

Group buy on 18's just started. I'm in for a set https://www.groupbuyparts.com/apex-18-arc-8-wheels-q1-2017.html

I'm thinking of getting 8.5et38 up front and 9et42 in the rear. Anyone running that size? Know if they fit on a lowered car?


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Why not go 18x9 et42 square?

[Vas]

Group buy on 18's just started. I'm in for a set https://www.groupbuyparts.com/apex-18-arc-8-wheels-q1-2017.html

I'm thinking of getting 8.5et38 up front and 9et42 in the rear. Anyone running that size? Know if they fit on a lowered car?

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I added my name to the feeler list. Gave it some thought about sizing as well and decided to go with the same sizing you had mentioned. Car is lowered as well


Why not go 18x9 et42 square?

There is really no need IMO. Unless you plan to run like a 255 section width front and wear.

A 245 section width fits well on a 8.5" rim but a 245/35/18 has a smaller sidewall which is not always a good idea.

[san]

I added my name to the feeler list. Gave it some thought about sizing as well and decided to go with the same sizing you had mentioned. Car is lowered as well



There is really no need IMO. Unless you plan to run like a 255 section width front and wear.

A 245 section width fits well on a 8.5" rim but a 245/35/18 has a smaller sidewall which is not always a good idea.

If you are concerned about sidewall thickness then why not go with 17"?


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[Vas]

If you are concerned about sidewall thickness then why not go with 17"?


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I plan on using stock tire sizes.

[ZHPizza]

I plan on using stock tire sizes.

I would go with the 9.5 rear then. I had the stock 225/255 on VMR VB3's 8.5f, 9.5r and loved the sidewall stability.

[slater]

I would go with the 9.5 rear then. I had the stock 225/255 on VMR VB3's 8.5f, 9.5r and loved the sidewall stability.

what was the offset on those 9.5" rears? with the ARC-8s, the highest-offset 9.5" wheel is an ET35, which is not going to fit under stock bodywork with a 255. they do make an ET62 but that's effectly the stock offset, and i'm not sure if it would rub on the shock body or not.

[holyc0w]

what was the offset on those 9.5" rears? with the ARC-8s, the highest-offset 9.5" wheel is an ET35, which is not going to fit under stock bodywork with a 255. they do make an ET62 but that's effectly the stock offset, and i'm not sure if it would rub on the shock body or not.

Can you expand on the downsides of the 245/35?

[johnrando]

Can you expand on the downsides of the 245/35?

I'd like to hear that too. Many people go 245/35 square (including me) and that's an good balance for an extremely close ratio to stock (given the differences between front and rear). If there are drawbacks, I have not heard of them nor experienced them. Of course, technically speaking, when comparing a smaller sidewall vs. larger, there are pros and cons to both.

[slater]

Can you expand on the downsides of the 245/35?


I'd like to hear that too. Many people go 245/35 square (including me) and that's an good balance for an extremely close ratio to stock (given the differences between front and rear). If there are drawbacks, I have not heard of them nor experienced them. Of course, technically speaking, when comparing a smaller sidewall vs. larger, there are pros and cons to both.

well, i run 245/35/18 PSS on my ARC-8s. for performance reasons, they are spectacular. however that 0.2" less sidewall height that a 255/35/18 is definitely noticeable in the ride quality department.

[jonnyd330]

Yeah I put my name on the list for the size I suggested and was planning on stock tire size as well.


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[ZacharyMikel]

I really wish Apex would make the 18x9.5 concave wheels in a +40mm offset. That would be the perfect square setup, and we could run 255 section tires with a moderate fender roll.

As it stands right now, I have 235/40/18's on my 18x9.5's, and even that took a little work to clear the rears. I fear that if I go up to 255, I would need more camber than stock.

[holyc0w]

well, i run 245/35/18 PSS on my ARC-8s. for performance reasons, they are spectacular. however that 0.2" less sidewall height that a 255/35/18 is definitely noticeable in the ride quality department.

That's disappointing, though maybe the Continentals would be softer. Or go the other way and do 235/40.

[johnrando]

Don't they have something close to that in the EC-7s?

[johnrando]

well, i run 245/35/18 PSS on my ARC-8s. for performance reasons, they are spectacular. however that 0.2" less sidewall height that a 255/35/18 is definitely noticeable in the ride quality department.

Harsher/feel bumps more? I kinda like that. :biggrin

[ZHPizza]

what was the offset on those 9.5" rears? with the ARC-8s, the highest-offset 9.5" wheel is an ET35, which is not going to fit under stock bodywork with a 255. they do make an ET62 but that's effectly the stock offset, and i'm not sure if it would rub on the shock body or not.
Ah yeah it must have been 18x8.5 et35 front and 18x9.5 et45 rear. Great fitment. Pity that Apex doesn't have that available.

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[slater]

Ah yeah it must have been 18x8.5 et35 front and 18x9.5 et45 rear. Great fitment. Pity that Apex doesn't have that available.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/a0ec0a0252e6936dd800963cb7bd3e21.jpg

even that is pretty aggressive... looks good though. i've always liked the VB3.

[Vas]

I would go with the 9.5 rear then. I had the stock 225/255 on VMR VB3's 8.5f, 9.5r and loved the sidewall stability.

Thought about this but then the 9.5 width rim is et35 and that will require fender work which I am trying to avoid.

Also as far as the the 245/35/18, nothing wrong with it from a performance standpoint. But everything else about that size on the front and the rear vehicle is a downside for me.

The steering feel suffers as well as the ride quality. Plus tramlining is more evident with the front tire being 245 section width

[slater]

Thought about this but then the 9.5 width rim is et35 and that will require fender work which I am trying to avoid.

Also as far as the the 245/35/18, nothing wrong with it from a performance standpoint. But everything else about that size on the front and the rear vehicle is a downside for me.

The steering feel suffers as well as the ride quality. Plus tramlining is more evident with the front tire being 245 section width

couldn't agree more. but in the corners it's a go kart. i definitely won't use this size again, will likely go back to staggered.

[BMWCurves]

As far as tramlining goes, my square 245/40R17s haven't been any worse than my old 135s with factory sizes. It does tramline a bit, but that's really only on bad highway roads from my experience.

[704sw]

Just added myself to the list (8.5F/9R). Not the kind of money I need to be spending while saving for a house, but...


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[jonnyd330]

Just added myself to the list (8.5F/9R). Not the kind of money I need to be spending while saving for a house, but...


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Yeah man too good of a deal to pass up


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[holyc0w]

Crap, all this talk makes me want to jump in too.

[ELCID86]

i've always liked the VB3.

+1

[jonnyd330]

Crap, all this talk makes me want to jump in too.

Do it! Someone help me get them to make a gold finish wheel [emoji41]


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[ELCID86]

Someone help me get them to make a gold finish wheel [emoji41]


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I forbid it.

[Vas]

I was tempted with the new bronze finish but the wife shot the idea down.

[johnrando]

I don't get any tramlining on my 245s at all. None.

[ELCID86]

I was tempted with the new bronze finish but the wife shot the idea down.

I knew I liked her.

[jonnyd330]

Wow there is a lot of interest in the gb. Looks like it will be a sweet deal on some wheels.


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[hcbeck2689]

Hmmm 18" arc8s on the x5?...


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[derbo]

I don't get any tramlining on my 245s at all. None.

I tramline but its cause of camber. :) -3 up front hahaha.

[johnrando]

Ah.

[Vas]

Wow there is a lot of interest in the gb. Looks like it will be a sweet deal on some wheels.


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I am hoping we hit $200 off and free shipping.

Last deal I missed had like 154 people in it.

Basically a full set of wheels under $1k shipped.

[jonnyd330]

I am hoping we hit $200 off and free shipping.

Last deal I missed had like 154 people in it.

Basically a full set of wheels under $1k shipped.

Yeah looks like we should get it. Sweet deal for wheels


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[Johnmadd]

Are there any group buys or special deals going on right now?

[ZHPizza]

Are there any group buys or special deals going on right now?
Looks like that last one closed in March so if we're lucky there will be one later in the year.

[Johnmadd]

Well darn. Thanks for the info man.

[BMWCurves]

Well darn. Thanks for the info man.

Shoot APEX an email, they should have a rough estimate of when the next one in our fitment would be.

[Vas]

Last time I touched base they informed me it would be towards the end of the year.