So, is my sexy redhead done for?

[NYRhockey]

Was at a stop sign at the end of my street when this lady was turning left and took the turn way too tight and hit me right in the middle of the grill/bumper and smashed it up good. There were fluids all over the ground so had it towed to a body shop.

It only has 82K on it but depreciation and expensive parts are a bitch. We both have Geico but not sure if that matters any.

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[DARXIDE]

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[san]

Sorry to hear man.. the low miles might help you and it seems at least one of the headlights is working which again might go in your favor as new headlights are expensive... hoping it works out!


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[BADCLOWN]

Headlight, hood, grille pieces, radiator and corresponding smaller pieces seem to be the main points to fix/big ticket items. I can't foresee them totaling it so long as all the damage is ABOVE the bumper which it appears to be i.e. No frame damage.

[Karl Lazlo]

Check out GotZHP's Project thread. He brought his ZHP back life after a front end hit that seemed to be worse than your own. Good luck, sorry about the damage.

ETA: Where in CT do you call home? I am local, as are a few folks. Upon coming to the close of my rebuilding project, I am sure we can scare up parts for the rebuild.

[BMWCurves]

PM sent.

[slater]

sorry to hear. you will need a new radiator core support as well, as that thing is definitely bent. looks like the bumper is salvageable.

i have a silbergrau hood if you need one (obviously it will need paint), but i suspect with ray nearby he can help out.

[wsmeyer]

I'll leave this here in place of a sad emoji

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[ecrabb]

Dammit. Yeah, it doesn't look too bad, but you won't know until you or somebody tears into it and inventories everything that needs replacement and puts a labor number with it. But, outward appearances aren't too terrible.

SC

[BimmerDude]

What is going on?? everyone is wrecking their zhps? :(

[johnrando]

Ugh, SUX!

[BimmerDude]

What is going on?? everyone is wrecking their zhps? :(

This should be an easy fix.. hope that helps to hear

[NYRhockey]

thanks for the response guys. Unfortunately Ned Flanders blocks this website at work so i cannot respond until after kids to go bed and have some free time....i spoke with the inspector today when he called to let me know when he'd be going to see the car, and said cars these age are generally totaled, but i told him the mileage and that it was a zhp (he actually knew what it is) so hopefully he takes that into consideration when doing his estimate.

I had it towed to this shop called Town and County Autobody, which is the shop for the bmw and benz dealers in North haven (same Mauro owner) so she will be well taken care of. I had already taken the car there in the past to get a side mirror cover and they are great to work with. I stopped by the shop today to get another look at it in the daylight and take better pictures, and from what they could see to the naked eye they're of the opinion it's fixable and should not be totaled given it's overall condition and mileage. Fingers crossed.

[NYRhockey]

ETA: Where in CT do you call home? I am local, as are a few folks. Upon coming to the close of my rebuilding project, I am sure we can scare up parts for the rebuild.

I live in Madison, about 20mins east/north of New Haven


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haha, that is cold and cruel


What is going on?? everyone is wrecking their zhps? :(

more women on the road lately? :ducking

[Karl Lazlo]

Fixable and not totalled isn't always in conflict.

What made economic sense fixing my totalled M3 (not by me, I bought it salvage) was the cost of OEM parts to repair vs. value. You can find OEM parts or quality replacements on the cheap.

Perfect examples, using my FrankenM3 as a baseline:

OEM hood: $1,025.75 - I found OEM for $400.00 plus paint.
Xenon Headlight: Over $1,100/ea - I found a pair of Xenons for $500.00, plus new lenses.

Start adding up and comparing OEM parts with OEM used or OEM+ parts, there are places to save. With that being said, I also took the liberty with some of my math. Some crash damage affected parts that I would replace anyway if I bought a 100k mile M3 (e.g.: cooling system, brakes, etc.) Plus, some donated parts and less costly upgrades made it a less bitter pill to swallow.

Now you add in the process in CT to have a salvage car stamped "Rebuilt" to get it registered and tagged. It isn't as a trivial process as it is in other states.

Good luck!

[az3579]

I had it towed to this shop called Town and County Autobody, which is the shop for the bmw and benz dealers in North haven (same Mauro owner) so she will be well taken care of.

Just a word of caution. Just because they do work for the dealer doesn't always mean high quality work.
Case in point: my friend had his E36 M3 "repaired" by a body shop in Bridgeport that does work for BMW of Bridgeport. The work done was substandard at best, and his car is two different colors now as a result, and he now hates his car because of that.

Hopefully this won't be the case with Town and County. If they do end up doing good work, let me know - I'm looking for places to do some bodywork and paint on my car, but don't know what places have good quality work.

[ELCID86]

Fix it. (And get Tapatalk on your phone).


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[NYRhockey]

it's dead, Jim!

Appraiser said it's a total loss. He said too many parts broken that were also pushed too deep into the engine breaking other parts. He was talking through the list of things that were broken and so far i can only remember hood, radiator + support, both headlights and coolant tank pushed against some belts. He complimented how well it was taken care of but that the damage was too severe.

He said they go through a 3rd party who determines the value of the car, and all in they're saying $8.9K so i pushed back and said i disagree with valuation and will get other comps. He said they may revise it but it'd only be a few hundred dollars, so it's not going to suddently get me to $11K or anything. Have to go tomorrow to empty it out and take the plates off. Too bad what started so great the day it got off the truck had to end like this

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[san]

it's dead, Jim!

Appraiser said it's a total loss. He said too many parts broken that were also pushed too deep into the engine breaking other parts. He was talking through the list of things that were broken and so far i can only remember hood, radiator + support, both headlights and coolant tank pushed against some belts. He complimented how well it was taken care of but that the damage was too severe.

He said they go through a 3rd party who determines the value of the car, and all in they're saying $8.9K so i pushed back and said i disagree with valuation and will get other comps. He said they may revise it but it'd only be a few hundred dollars, so it's not going to suddently get me to $11K or anything. Have to go tomorrow to empty it out and take the plates off. Too bad what started so great the day it got off the truck had to end like this

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Man, so sorry to hear that... do you think you will buy it back and fix it?


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[NYRhockey]

thanks. No, too busy and not handy enough to even attempt that. Starting to look at comps to mail them and while this site is great it seems people who place their cars for sale here don't necessarily have them listed on a site like autotrader/ebay that they'd consider reliable to use as a comp. I'll try to use the usual sites (autotrade/ebay/cars.com) to see if i can find good ones to use.

[danewilson77]

Damn.

S7 Edge, out

[BMWCurves]

Damn.

S7 Edge, out

+1

Sorry to hear. Hopefully the 3rd party will offer you a better evaluation.

[WOLFN8TR]

Sorry to see this but I call BS on the Appraiser saying it's a total loss. I would buy it back and fix like GOTZHP did or sell it to an enthusiasts that will fix her up!

See Post #215 onward

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?17742-GotZHP-s-E46-330i-ZHP-Maintenance-Build-Thread-w-Pics-DIYS/page6

[fredo]

Sorry to see this but I call BS on the Appraiser saying it's a total loss. I would buy it back and fix like GOTZHP did or sell it to an enthusiasts that will fix her up!

See Post #215 onward

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?17742-GotZHP-s-E46-330i-ZHP-Maintenance-Build-Thread-w-Pics-DIYS/page6

+1 on buying her back and selling. That's what Shawn (elcid86) did. A little more work, but more $$$ in your pocket.

[GotZHP]

Hey NYRhockey,

Check out my build thread. I was recently in a front end collision and have my car up and running again. I still need to install the hood but I can give you a good idea of what you are looking at in terms of $$$ to fix the car. Your hit looks just like mine so the info I have will be very close to what you will need to do to get the car running. My guess is that your insurance company is going to call it "a total loss". that said, my insurance company said my car was a total loss, and if I fixed just what was damaged in the accident, I would have spent $2,300. All in, I am around 4,500 or so into my car but I did a lot of extras and bought a lot of new tools.

Please PM me your e-mail address and more photos. I will send you my parts list, price quotes, part #s, and everything. If you insurance company calls it totaled, my gut feeling is KEEP THE CAR! I am by no means a mechanic, just a guy who likes to wrench, and I brought my car back to life in a matter of a few weeks. I would work my regular job for 8-10 hours a day, then go wrench until midnight.

From what I can see you are going to need a new expansion tank at the least. I would recommend doing the whole cooling system if you have not. My radiator was actually fine, but I replaced it for peace of mind and because it was on the maintenance to do list. Most likely your alternator took a bath in coolant, and that will need to be replaced. The front of the car comes apart very easily and you will need to replace the front panel / core support. This is actually an easy job!

where you insurance company is going to screw you, is they are going to quote new headlights from the dealership, at 1,400 each! I bought refurbed ones when I could have just bought new lenses. Obviously, you are going to need a new hood. About $500 after tax is you get it from a non corporate BMW dealership that will hook you up at wholesale price.

I hope your insurance company does not call it a total loss, but I have a feeling they will. You should keep the car, rent a compact, and fix it up. I can help every step of the way and provide pictures for almost every single step. my build thread maybe has 3% of all the photos I took. I even have some used parts from my car I could send to you (just pay shipping!) if you want to go that route.

Please PM me your e-mail and I will be in touch.

[GotZHP]

Damn, so my internet is so slow tonight and I only saw the first page because I was impatient of the loading time. Please tell me you did not get rid of the car! The insurance company is BS you!!! and like I said, the headlights are 2,800 of the damages!

Buy the car back, fix for about 3 grand tops!

[GotZHP]

it's dead, Jim!

Appraiser said it's a total loss. He said too many parts broken that were also pushed too deep into the engine breaking other parts. He was talking through the list of things that were broken and so far i can only remember hood, radiator + support, both headlights and coolant tank pushed against some belts. He complimented how well it was taken care of but that the damage was too severe.

He said they go through a 3rd party who determines the value of the car, and all in they're saying $8.9K so i pushed back and said i disagree with valuation and will get other comps. He said they may revise it but it'd only be a few hundred dollars, so it's not going to suddently get me to $11K or anything. Have to go tomorrow to empty it out and take the plates off. Too bad what started so great the day it got off the truck had to end like this

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In your policy is an "independent appraiser clause"

This clause allows you to hire a third party to determine the value of your car. Geico then will have to hire a 3rd party to determine the value, and the two meet to discuss the true value of your car.

Please tell me you havent signed any documents!

[az3579]

Damn, so my internet is so slow tonight and I only saw the first page because I was impatient of the loading time. Please tell me you did not get rid of the car! The insurance company is BS you!!! and like I said, the headlights are 2,800 of the damages!

Buy the car back, fix for about 3 grand tops!
That 3 grand figure is only if he's doing the work himself, which he said he is not capable of doing.

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[WOLFN8TR]

Check out GotZHP's Project thread. He brought his ZHP back life after a front end hit that seemed to be worse than your own.

ETA: Where in CT do you call home? I am local, as are a few folks. Upon coming to the close of my rebuilding project, I am sure we can scare up parts for the rebuild.

This...[emoji106]

[BimmerDude]

worst nightmare..

[3ZHP]

Sorry to hear this. I would retain the salvage and sell it to another enthusiast. If nothing else, that could make a good track car for someone. [emoji45]


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[BMWCurves]

It's a tough call, but if you don't have the time I can defintely understand just taking the payout. Let us know what you decide

[330i Lover]

I had very similar damage done about 6 months ago and it was about $2,500 to repair. That didn't include headlights replaced though.

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[BimmerDude]

I had very similar damage done about 6 months ago and it was about $2,500 to repair. That didn't include headlights replaced though.

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Thats the number i was expecting

[NYRhockey]

GOTZHP - Thanks a bunch for the offer, but at this time i really cannot take on a project from a time, knowledge and money perspective so i need to take the best i can get out of the insurance company. Over the summer we did a large remodel on the house out of pocket, which was like putting a whole bottle of miralax into our savings, so itleft us highly illiquid. I financed a portion of the zhp at time of purchase to conserve cash for the remodel, for which i still owe $5K on it, so after paying that off i'll get ~4K in my pocket which would not be enough to buy back and then buy parts, and that's assuming i had the time and gained mechanical knowledge overnight :)

Today i went to take my belongings out of the car and remove the plates. I went back to the adjuster with a few comps i found and he responded saying he had reached out to the valuation company with them and that he'll let me know once he hears back. Hopefully it nets me a few hundred more.

Here are some pictures i took with the hood open

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[NYRhockey]

zhp's are a ridiculously fun car. I'll take a couple/few months off then i'll surely be looking into getting another one.

[san]

Totally understandable... hope someday u get back in a Zhp... and hope someone picks up this ones and fixes her up cause honestly that doesn't look too bad...


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[BMWCurves]

zhp's are a ridiculously fun car. I'll take a couple/few months off then i'll surely be looking into getting another one.

Good luck in the interim, but glad to hear you're thinking about getting another ZHP. Shame things ended up this way though

[GotZHP]

That 3 grand figure is only if he's doing the work himself, which he said he is not capable of doing.

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You would be surprised how easy a front end make over is. A $100 socket set is all you need for tools. There is nothing larger than a 16mm nut or bolt. The front core support is held in place by something like 6 to 10 bolts only. The cooling system is mostly snap fit and flushing it, just watch a 3 minute youtube video.

I was overwhelmed at first but between how simple it actually is and all the youtube videos out there, almost anyone could do this.

[GotZHP]

Damn, well best of luck with the next car.

[BimmerDude]

ahh man.. thats seriously not bad AT ALL....

[ELCID86]

That buckle in the body by the air box is a bit worrisome. $11k is a decent payout.


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[BimmerDude]

ohh. i must have missed the 11k pay out... not too shabby

[holyc0w]

8,900 is the payout figure provided.

[NYRhockey]

Yea, $8.9K is the current offer. I did not hear back today from the adjuster so hoping it's because they're doing more research and increasing the valuation! :)

[GotZHP]

Yea, $8.9K is the current offer. I did not hear back today from the adjuster so hoping it's because they're doing more research and increasing the valuation! :)

Did you research the appraisal clause i mentioned early? 8.9 is what I was offered for a ZHP with 116,500 on the clock. Leather seats and H/K sound system are my only extras

[johnrando]

They should also add tax iirc. But you can usually get them to come up from their initial offer if you show them some good comps

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[ELCID86]

Yea, $8.9K is the current offer. I did not hear back today from the adjuster so hoping it's because they're doing more research and increasing the valuation! :)

I misread the previous post. Keep pushing them. Send them your own comps if you can.

[NYRhockey]

the final agreed value was $9K + tax, so total price of $9.6K. I sent them some comps but this is as far as they'd go so i just took the deal to put an end to this. Car will go to auction next.

[ELCID86]

Not bad. More that we got. Consider buying it and "flipping"?


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[NYRhockey]

Car is now up for pre-bid in case anyone is interested in a parts car

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?itemID=23175857&RowNumber=0

[GotZHP]

Man, I really could use a parts car, but just don't have the room for it.

Sad to see ZHPs on those sites.

[Karl Lazlo]

Sorry, man.

[ELCID86]

Such low mileage. Can't believe it's totaled.


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[san]

Did you ask them how much the buy back $$$ was?


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[NYRhockey]

I briefly inquired about buying it back but the appraiser said it's a different process so he'd have to get me more info about it, so given i just wanted to get it over with i stopped it there and basically just said mail the check.

[ELCID86]

I briefly inquired about buying it back but the appraiser said it's a different process so he'd have to get me more info about it, so given i just wanted to get it over with i stopped it there and basically just said mail the check.

It is a separate process but was pretty seamless (with USAA).


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[GotZHP]

Sad to see ZHPs go like this.

Any plans for another one?

[NYRhockey]

Yes, i've been lurking the interwebs for another imola. In a few more weeks i'll be more seriously in the look for one so hopefully i can get my hands on another low-mileage zhp. The catch is i don't want to pay a big premium for those miles, because to insurance companies this is just another 12+ year old car.

[NYRhockey]

That said, this one got my attention

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2017&zip=06443&doorCode=4&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&showcaseListingId=416366216&mmt=%5BBMW%5B335I%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&doorCodes=4&modelCode1=335I&showcaseOwnerId=562768&startYear=1981&makeCode1=BMW&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=0&extColorsSimple=RED&listingId=440835012&Log=0

[NYRhockey]

and to a lesser extent this one (though the price looks a bit too good to be true)

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2017&zip=06443&doorCode=4&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&showcaseListingId=0&mmt=%5BAUDI%5BA4%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&doorCodes=4&modelCode1=A4&showcaseOwnerId=0&startYear=1981&makeCode1=AUDI&firstRecord=0&maxMileage=100000&searchRadius=0&extColorsSimple=RED&listingId=440840720&Log=0


[GotZHP]

Never been an Audi fan personally. Dat 335 though... with a manual gearbox. me likey

[NYRhockey]

Yea if it had the sports package I think a call would have to be made


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[fw_fw]

Yea if it had the sports package I think a call would have to be made


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The 335i does have the Sport package: the seats are Sport seats (adjustable front thigh rest) and those are only available with the Sport package.

[NYRhockey]

The steering wheel on the sports package is different though


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[fw_fw]

The steering wheel on the sports package is different though


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Put the VIN into a BMW VIN decoder (bimmer.work) and it shows it as a 7AC Sport Line with 705 M Sports Suspension, 481 Sport Seats, and 255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel. BMW had a different Sport Steering wheel for 2012-2013 (as shown in that autotrader ad you posted) and changed the wheel in 2014. To verify just google: "2012 BMW 335i Sport Line" and look at the Images of interior pics. Do the same for 2013 and 2014, you'll see they match that ad and then changes in 2014.

[holyc0w]

I thought sport line was the appearance package? Though it does look like it has the most important goodies including adaptive m suspension.

[NYRhockey]

My understanding is that the sports line and sports package were different things, but I'm no expert so could certainly be wrong


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[az3579]

My understanding is that the sports line and sports package were different things, but I'm no expert so could certainly be wrong


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Back when these came out, they did the cars in "lines". If you wanted sports package, you essentially had to buy a Sport Line car. This one is a Sport Line car. Black mirror caps give it away from the outside, as well as the front bumper being slightly different than the base car. On the inside, you have the colored stitching and the sport seats that is further proof of being a Sport Line car.

Now, elements of the sport package (sport seats and paddle shifters, not sure about suspension) is standard on 330i LCI model cars 2016 and newer, and M-Sport is standard on 340i's as of the 2017 model year. Poor 2016 340i owners - they got shafted!

One very very welcome change for 2017 - finally they're doing more two-toning of the colored interiors. Beige and grey are finally bearable!

[NYRhockey]

Wasn't 2012 the first model year for the f30. Wonder if there are any issues to worry about though with that model year and mileage may still be able to get extended warranty.

However as I crunch some numbers that 335 may me too rich for me. That and my heart really belongs to a zhp dressed in immmmola. May be a bit of an older car now but gotta love an attractive cougar.


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[fw_fw]

Wasn't 2012 the first model year for the f30. Wonder if there are any issues to worry about though with that model year and mileage may still be able to get extended warranty.

However as I crunch some numbers that 335 may me too rich for me. That and my heart really belongs to a zhp dressed in immmmola. May be a bit of an older car now but gotta love an attractive cougar.


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2012 was the first year of the F30, however the 335i N55 engine had been made from 2010, and it was a great improvement from the N54 which went thru turbos and HPFPs. It is a softer car than the E90 before it, and the E46 before it.......

That being said I'd look for a CPO or ext warranty for any newer BMW.....

[NYRhockey]

Holy crap, the zhp sold at auction for 4.3k. Given the salvage title that is probably close to its market value before repairs. As a parts car you probably can't get 4k out of them. Don't get it.


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