View Full Version : ESS twin screw versus ESS vortech
Bimmer330ci
06-29-2016, 12:11 PM
I have decided I want to go the FI route with my daily driven e46 330ci 5 speed and I was really thinking bout the twin screw setup from ESS but when I called they said tht they are switching to whipple chargers as the other went out of business, not to mention they are still awaiting on injectors and soonest its looking that they will have setups to start shipping is in sept. Well I'm not wanting to wait so they offered me their vortech setup at a discounted price and while that's good I don't know how it would compare to the twin screw setup.
They both seem relatively easy to install I have plenty of skill turning wrenches been a tech for 30+ years but I come from muscle cars this is my first bmw. An while I do love the car and its fun to drive I think a lil more ommmph is in order.
This will be my daily driver and I am just wanting some more power when I want to play a lil
Has anyone tried both or driven both a twin screw and a vortech and their thoughts on both. I mean I know with the vortech, first thing its already over a grand cheaper and with the discount its even moreso. I have heard its an easyier and quicker install as well. But how are they powerwise an such
Thanks
rkneeshaw
06-29-2016, 05:03 PM
That's odd, Lysholm has not gone out of business, they were bought by Vortech and continue to offer their twin screw blowers
http://www.lysholm.us/
You should compare the dyno sheets. I think the twin screw will deliver torque earlier in the RPM, which is really great for daily driving. I love mine.
Here's my before and after dyno:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k513/rkneeshaw/2003%20BMW%20330i%20ZHP/DynoGraph20160514.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/rkneeshaw/media/2003%20BMW%20330i%20ZHP/DynoGraph20160514.jpg.html)
Ebay headers, magnaflow 16533 cat-back, bmw performance intake
The only difference between the before/after dyno other than the TS2 kit is that I had turner underdrive pulleys on for the NA dyno. I removed them when I installed the TS2 kit dyno per ESS' recommendation, but have since reinstalled them after I did this dyno and what a nice difference! They are staying on and I'll do another dyno soon to see what the actual gains are.
rguti153
06-29-2016, 06:25 PM
so the end of ts1 ts2 kit ?
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Bimmer330ci
06-29-2016, 07:28 PM
no I talked with Hannah tpoday for a bit and maybe she meant tht since lyshom was bought out they coudnt get a good deal on the blowers so they are switching to whipple which shouldn't be bad at all their great as well.
I think ill keep looking for a 2nd hand unit or something
D1ESEL
07-02-2016, 12:16 PM
Wait for ESS twinscrew. It's 100% worth it.
danewilson77
07-03-2016, 09:39 AM
What was the end result if Jeremiah's turbo kit testing? That thread escaped me months ago....
S7 Edge, out
az3579
07-03-2016, 04:14 PM
What was the end result if Jeremiah's turbo kit testing? That thread escaped me months ago....
S7 Edge, out
I thought his kit was the ~$4000 option they currently have for sale...
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Sockethead
07-03-2016, 05:07 PM
I didn't know there was any one here actively installing a turbo kit....
az3579
07-03-2016, 05:28 PM
J's kit is a supercharger.
Sockethead
07-03-2016, 05:33 PM
oh, ok
Sockethead
07-07-2016, 01:11 PM
I gave them a call today. The Lyshom are definitely all gone. They aren't selling any units at all, new or otherwise. She said that if I really wanted one or needed one repaired she could refer me to another supplier/tuner... I forget the name.
The Wipple will be what's offered in early September. Same price point, same HP output. It's in R&D right now and they have a summer shutdown for a week or two in August. If you want to reserve a unit, you can put down 50% now.
rkneeshaw
07-08-2016, 06:37 PM
I gave them a call today. The Lyshom are definitely all gone. They aren't selling any units at all, new or otherwise. She said that if I really wanted one or needed one repaired she could refer me to another supplier/tuner... I forget the name.
The Wipple will be what's offered in early September. Same price point, same HP output. It's in R&D right now and they have a summer shutdown for a week or two in August. If you want to reserve a unit, you can put down 50% now.
So strange. I wonder why the change.
And, this makes it sound like whipple became lysholm
https://whipplesuperchargers.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=5
:scratchinghead
Sockethead
07-08-2016, 08:30 PM
Hard to tell who is using who's technology & manufacturing. She also told me that Lysholm went out of business, I didn't argue the fact. It is what it is.
It will be interesting to see what the whipple looks like and how it performs. I wonder if now, they'll be enough room to install the S54 OFH and oil cooler lines
rkneeshaw
08-30-2016, 06:16 PM
A dude on e46f is selling a used TS1 kit. Good candidate for the TS2 upgrade bits and a whole lot of good times
BADCLOWN
09-01-2016, 05:56 AM
That's illirep, he's on here as well
330i ZHP
09-01-2016, 05:48 PM
This means my ts is now worth millions
GotZHP
09-01-2016, 08:08 PM
Man I need to go f/I
+1
I want a supercharger pretty badly. GFs car is turbo, so I got that base covered
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