Radar Detector Discussion

[Prestovie]

It has come to my attention that there are two sides when it comes to the infamous debate of which radar detector is better, and that would be Valentine One versus the 9500ix. For those of you who own either, you may find yourself picking a side based on the decision you have made in purchasing.
Being a soon to be ZHP owner, I am too faced with the difficult decision of which radar detector to choose. Car will be driven for a variety of purposes, whether it be the daily commute, going out to eat, or driving across the country.
I'd like your guys' and gals' opinions on which detector I, and many other people, should be choosing. Is there an affirmatively better one?
And feel free to include other RD's in your side, the Escort Max 360, Max II, Redline, and of course many others. And for this discussion lets say budget comes in at around the $500 range, obviously there are more expensive, reliable RD's, but let's save those for another time.
Thanks, and may the best radar detector win!

[yura]

Whatever you prefer, get the best available at the time of purchase. With a radar detector every split second matters, so buying something that'll give you short warning is pointless. You want to stack the odds in your favour as much as possible, otherwise buying a radar detector is pointless.

The advantage of 9500ix is its GPS, and the ability to use that to teach it where the false alarms are. IMO that's a minor thing. I've got a V1 and I think its ability to show the direction of the signals, as well as track multiple "targets" at the same time is much more useful. I get very few false alarms, but I've also disabled K and X bands as they're never used by cops in my area.

Oh, and I've bought my V1 and (previous) Escort 8500 second hand for less than half the original price. No problems with either. Food for thought.

[cakM3]

I've got a V1 and I think its ability to show the direction of the signals, as well as track multiple "targets" at the same time is much more useful. I get very few false alarms, but I've also disabled K and X bands as they're never used by cops in my area.

This....

I also use V1 and love this feature. My Porsche came with the k40 already installed and I'm about to do the V1 hardwire mod so I can use my V1 in the Porsche as well...

[UdubBadger]

Whatever you prefer, get the best available at the time of purchase. With a radar detector every split second matters, so buying something that'll give you short warning is pointless. You want to stack the odds in your favour as much as possible, otherwise buying a radar detector is pointless.

The advantage of 9500ix is its GPS, and the ability to use that to teach it where the false alarms are. IMO that's a minor thing. I've got a V1 and I think its ability to show the direction of the signals, as well as track multiple "targets" at the same time is much more useful. I get very few false alarms, but I've also disabled K and X bands as they're never used by cops in my area.

Oh, and I've bought my V1 and (previous) Escort 8500 second hand for less than half the original price. No problems with either. Food for thought.

V1's arrows never did anything for me and "multiple bogeys" aren't an issue. If I get one hit on K/Ka band I slow down anyway so no big deal if another threat comes from somewhere else. The GPS lockout on my Escort is a lifesaver in the city for me, thing initially went off on every corner. Now it's chill unless there is actually a cop or a new signal.

Buy used for sure. I've had my 9500xi since 2009, purchased second hand, still going strong. The hardwire is a must too.

[theothersawyer]

I have friends that have both, and they both seem to like them! So I guess you can't go wrong!

[UdubBadger]

^yeah basically.

[Prestovie]

WOW is all that I can say
I purchased my own 9500ix yesterday morning from Best Buy, and have been driving around with it since. I'm currently in a restaurant halfway between Chicago and Virginia(to pick up a ZHP!) and have been high tailing it over on route 80E, sometimes hitting the speed limiter on my brothers 2006 530xi(135mp, but that's not why I'm posting this)
No, I'm posting this because of my new radar detector. In the past day or so it had been really helpful surprisingly, and has notified me of a few cops a good distance away. But of course, when there is stationary charger about 1/4mile away NOTHING.
Thank god I was only going 94 in a 70, but it could have been much, much worse. All of a sudden the 9500ix starts beeping it's head off, and lone behold I'm being gunned at that very moment.
So, I will now be returning this $350 "radar detector" and putting the money towards my ticket and court fees.

[Pip]

Radar detectors aren't perfect and if your a lone car with laser then it's not going to work out too well.


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[Prestovie]

Radar detectors aren't perfect and if your a lone car with laser then it's not going to work out too well.


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Thing is I wasn't a lone car, I was overtaking someone in the left lane with everyone around me flowing at 85:/

[WOLFN8TR]

I have a Valentine One hardwired using Stealth Assist on my iPhone. Works great and has saved me from getting around 4 tickets over the last year. If they hit you with laser it's instant on and very hard to react fast enough to slow down and not get a ticket. Honestly having a radar detector has taught me to slow down. There is a used Valentine One for sale over on the M3Forum for $380- http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=549303&highlight=Valentine

[cakM3]

@ Prestovie... A radar detector is not used to tell you it's okay to speed. If you use a radar detector for this purpose then you will eventually get nailed by any police officer. Sometimes they sit completely passive, as you found out, until they see you and then point their radar/laser guns at your car and light you up at the very last minute. The radar detector is still doing it's job by detecting the radar/laser the police is lighting your ass up with but by then it is way too late. I used to use radar detectors with that mindset and got my share of speeding tickets.

I now use my Valentine V1 as an additional device to help aid in my situational awareness and not as a means to allow me to speed with relative impunity. Since changing my mindset in the use of radar detectors, I have not gotten any speeding tickets in 20 years now (knock on wood). They are awesome devices that can still alert you to presence of police. It is unfortunate you got nailed doing 94 in a 70... hope things will work out for you :thumbsup

[Prestovie]

I have a Valentine One hardwired using Stealth Assist on my iPhone. Works great and has saved me from getting around 4 tickets over the last year. If they hit you with laser it's instant on and very hard to react fast enough to slow down and not get a ticket. Honestly having a radar detector has taught me to slow down. There is a used Valentine One for sale over on the M3Forum for $380- http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=549303&highlight=Valentine

I might return this one and try the Valentine One out, thanks. And what's stealth mode? Does it work on iPhone?

[Prestovie]

@cakM3 I can see why now lol, but it definitely did its job in the sense of notifying me when I'm getting gunned, may have saved me from a class A misdemeanor(missed it by 2mph). I'll definitely have to check out the Valentine One and improve my usage of detectors :)

[Rovert]

I've used a V1 for many years and I've used a 9500ix for multiple years. Both beep and my brain reacts to the beeps and I get off the throttle and do a speed check before braking if I am traveling at a speed more than traffic is flowing at. The V1 arrows is only there for peace of mind and the control freak in the driver who wants to know where the signal is coming from. No matter what, if the audible thread is strong, you aren't going to test your top speed so arrows are just there for your entertainment.

The V1's beeps are less intrusive and pleasant to the ear. In an area with a lot of radar it can be tiresome. The arrows flash all over because in the city the radar bounces off buildings and makes it look like there are multiple bogeys. I'm always hitting the volume button to mute/quiet the beeping when they go off. In the open highway the device is great and when the right radar is used, the V1's strengths come alive, the arrows become more accurate and it will somewhat protect you from your lack of discipline with the right pedal. LOL

Where the older V1 leaves off, the newer 9500ix picks up from it's later technology using GPS. After some time of driving in your regular stomping grounds the 9500ix will remember those locations of repetitive frequency and auto-cancel them out after 3 false alarms. You can manually cancel a known location out by just pressing the mute button three times. Radar range is fine just like the V1 and you can set the 9500ix to give verbal warnings so you don't have to be distracted and look at the display. The 9500ix will show multiple threats with multiple strength bars so you can see if there are 2 X-bands, 1 K-band, and 1 Ka-band as well as which one is the strongest. The 9500ix also has X-band lockout so it won't go off on any X-band should your state/location not use X for speed detection. The 9500ix is networked online a database of known locations for speed cameras so the detector will warn you when you are very close to approaching a red light/speed camera. As you approach you just hear "speed camera ahead" and as you pass the camera it'll say "you have reached your marked location". The good thing with the 9500ix GPS you can set it to tell your actual speed in kmh/mph or battery voltage.

The patent for V1 arrows has expired for Valentine and the newer generation Passport has taken advantage to implement that function.

No matter what a radar detector makes you feel more invincible than without one. I am conscious that I drive differently with and without a detector even though I say I'm the same. I've learned to curb most of that attitude because a radar detector doesn't guarantee anything and if it's constantly "saving" you from a real ticket, you need to really do a reality check in your driving habits because those will catch up to you in a much worst way than just a ticket. I'm not going to say I'm a saint but follow the law and let a radar detector supplement you in driving a vehicle that is easy to overspeed against a sign because of it's smoothness and power. The best detector is your brain and attitude. In the 8 years I daily drove my ZHP, I was served 3 minor speeding tickets. The M3 I've daily driven for over 2 years and haven't got anything, knock on wood. LOL.

[WOLFN8TR]

I might return this one and try the Valentine One out, thanks. And what's stealth mode? Does it work on iPhone?

It's an App for use with the Valentine One, and Yes it work with the iPhone. I have my phone mounted on the dash using a Bimmian mount. When using the Stealth Assist app you can see it easily.

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[derbo]

I have a V1 hardwired in my TDI for daily commute. I turned off K, X because of all the false alarms here. I only have KA and laser on. My V1 is older so the laser has alot of false alarms with the Volvo and Mazda's with their stupid cruise control stuff.

Remember that it is a radar detector. Half the cops out here don't even have it on a lot of the times so I could easily pass a highway patrol car without the V1 even going off.

[yura]

WOW is all that I can say
I purchased my own 9500ix yesterday morning from Best Buy, and have been driving around with it since. I'm currently in a restaurant halfway between Chicago and Virginia(to pick up a ZHP!) and have been high tailing it over on route 80E, sometimes hitting the speed limiter on my brothers 2006 530xi(135mp, but that's not why I'm posting this)
No, I'm posting this because of my new radar detector. In the past day or so it had been really helpful surprisingly, and has notified me of a few cops a good distance away. But of course, when there is stationary charger about 1/4mile away NOTHING.
Thank god I was only going 94 in a 70, but it could have been much, much worse. All of a sudden the 9500ix starts beeping it's head off, and lone behold I'm being gunned at that very moment.
So, I will now be returning this $350 "radar detector" and putting the money towards my ticket and court fees.

There is nothing you can do against laser, short of jamming it, which is usually illegal. Nothing wrong with your radar detector - they can't detect what's not there, and it sounds like that cop simply waited to turn on his radar at the last second, knowing he'd get you. It's a cat & mouse game, and in this case you lost. Roll with the punches.

[UdubBadger]

I've used a V1 for many years and I've used a 9500ix for multiple years. Both beep and my brain reacts to the beeps and I get off the throttle and do a speed check before braking if I am traveling at a speed more than traffic is flowing at. The V1 arrows is only there for peace of mind and the control freak in the driver who wants to know where the signal is coming from. No matter what, if the audible thread is strong, you aren't going to test your top speed so arrows are just there for your entertainment.

The V1's beeps are less intrusive and pleasant to the ear. In an area with a lot of radar it can be tiresome. The arrows flash all over because in the city the radar bounces off buildings and makes it look like there are multiple bogeys. I'm always hitting the volume button to mute/quiet the beeping when they go off. In the open highway the device is great and when the right radar is used, the V1's strengths come alive, the arrows become more accurate and it will somewhat protect you from your lack of discipline with the right pedal. LOL

Where the older V1 leaves off, the newer 9500ix picks up from it's later technology using GPS. After some time of driving in your regular stomping grounds the 9500ix will remember those locations of repetitive frequency and auto-cancel them out after 3 false alarms. You can manually cancel a known location out by just pressing the mute button three times. Radar range is fine just like the V1 and you can set the 9500ix to give verbal warnings so you don't have to be distracted and look at the display. The 9500ix will show multiple threats with multiple strength bars so you can see if there are 2 X-bands, 1 K-band, and 1 Ka-band as well as which one is the strongest. The 9500ix also has X-band lockout so it won't go off on any X-band should your state/location not use X for speed detection. The 9500ix is networked online a database of known locations for speed cameras so the detector will warn you when you are very close to approaching a red light/speed camera. As you approach you just hear "speed camera ahead" and as you pass the camera it'll say "you have reached your marked location". The good thing with the 9500ix GPS you can set it to tell your actual speed in kmh/mph or battery voltage.

The patent for V1 arrows has expired for Valentine and the newer generation Passport has taken advantage to implement that function.

No matter what a radar detector makes you feel more invincible than without one. I am conscious that I drive differently with and without a detector even though I say I'm the same. I've learned to curb most of that attitude because a radar detector doesn't guarantee anything and if it's constantly "saving" you from a real ticket, you need to really do a reality check in your driving habits because those will catch up to you in a much worst way than just a ticket. I'm not going to say I'm a saint but follow the law and let a radar detector supplement you in driving a vehicle that is easy to overspeed against a sign because of it's smoothness and power. The best detector is your brain and attitude. In the 8 years I daily drove my ZHP, I was served 3 minor speeding tickets. The M3 I've daily driven for over 2 years and haven't got anything, knock on wood. LOL.

Great thoughts Trev

[Rovert]

Thanks Seth!

I really do mean it guys. If your intent to get a radar detector is to beat the system you're in for a much more costly future. I use it because when it beeps it reminds me to check my speed. Use your head to play responsibly. Don't use technology as an entitlement to play.

[UdubBadger]

Agreed and no matter what radar you're using if you're doing 94 in a 70, you're gonna be nailed. Trust me I had a suspended license once when I was younger for speeding like a dumbass like that. 3 tickets in 3 months including a 125/65... 5mph from going to jail. It's not worth it (to me anymore at least).

If you need to drive flat out, don't be doing it on an interstate in rural America, thats how all of those counties make their money. You're better off going 100mph through downtown Chicago than in the middle of Ohio where nobody is around.

[Rovert]

*Disclaimer: May take out countless tourists and business people through the magnificent mile.

[BMWCurves]

Some good and brief reviews here for those radar detectors.

I don't have one because I tend to just drive with the flow with the traffic and I would like to believe I drive pretty sensibly. I supplement that with the Waze app that people use to plug in and spot traffic, accidents, or police traps and has worked out great for me for longer trips. Haven't gotten a speeding ticket since I got my license (knock on wood).

[Rovert]

Yeah Waze is such a good addition!! Whenever my 9500ix screamed out speed camera, I saw it on Waze.

[Prestovie]

Got myself the Waze app, and thanks to your guys' suggestions I made it the 13hour trip home without a ticket :) very helpful!

[BMWCurves]

Got myself the Waze app, and thanks to your guys' suggestions I made it the 13hour trip home without a ticket :) very helpful!

Glad you liked it and it was useful on your way home! It's a great app. A ton of people use it, and it's been pretty darn accurate for me. I used it across the country and on various other trips and it saved me from police traps a few times and definitely helps avoid traffic.

Congrats on your purchase, btw

[NorCal-Dimitri]

I had a V1 for about a year. I liked the feature of the arrows, but I didn't ever think it was a necessity. It saved me from a lot of tickets, but it annoyed the hell out of me in meantime. I live where there are a lot of curvy, open roads and hills. Because of this, I want a radar detector that doesn't blare a lot of false alarms, but also has a lot of range. The V1 has pretty good range, but it wasn't enough for me. I switched to the Escort Redline and I couldn't be happier. The day I threw it in my car I pulled up to an intersection and it lit up a cop two miles directly to my left. On top of detecting radar from a longer distance, I've noticed that it gives me a noticeably sooner warning for laser, too.

[Prestovie]

Congrats on your purchase, btw

Thanks!

[Rovert]

A new sheriff is in town called the Uniden R3 and the link below will show comparisons.

http://www.bestradardetectors.net/Uniden-R3.html?AffId=2

My 9500ix failed because of a cracked and leaking super capacitor (2.7v 3F) which I'll replace/solder-in later and then give to my dad to replace his aging V1. My R3 has just come in so I'll pick it up within the next few days and see what all this crazy positive fuss is all about.

I've been still having fun driving in the many months without a detector and without being served. It's still important to use your brains over technology...until Tesla really does make you comfortable not using your brain to drive.

[704sw]

I'm looking forward to reading about this new R3. I had one of the original grey Passport 8500 X50s for probably 5 years, got hit with laser running late for work back in 2011, sold the detector to help pay the ticket, and went a good 3.5 years without one. Then I bought a V1 in 2015, loved the arrows, but my god that thing was so false-happy. Great range, loved the tone for the alerts compared to the Escort, but I couldn't stand the constant falses and I sold it last spring.

I don't drive nearly as ass-like as I did in my younger days, but this blue car isn't exactly subtle, and I'd like the peace of mind.

[johnrando]

Supposedly Valentine (according to them, haven't read up on it) has worked on that issue, esp due to the blind spot tech on cars that was causing false positives.

[Rovert]

The R3 supposedly has awesome filtering for private cars with all the sensors for blindspot, lane hold, cruise, etc...

I was reading one guy had a Max 360 but it was unusable in his car because all it did was beep at his own tech. He put the R3 in and it was silent. R3 also has stealth tech so detector detectors can't see it in US states and Canadian provinces where it's illegal to use one.

[704sw]

Supposedly Valentine (according to them, haven't read up on it) has worked on that issue, esp due to the blind spot tech on cars that was causing false positives.

From what I remember Infiniti's BSM was really bad for the falses, and Volvo LED (I think?) tail lights would trigger false lasers. My V1 was the most up to date hardware and firmware version at the time.

Customer service was really nice when I reached out to them about possible software updates. Unfortunately a lot of the small jurisdictions between Charlotte and the NC beaches (a drive I used to make very often) still run K Band, so living with all the blind spot monitoring falses just wasn't worth keeping a $400 unit.

[Rovert]

My 9500ix was so much quieter than my dad's V1. I used it on a group drive into the mountains last month and all it did was blink the whole time. What a waste. LOL.

There were so many cars pulled over too that day because when you have 1,000 german cars heading to the same place, shenanigans will happen! I just picked my places as wisely as I could and accept consequences should I be caught.

The Japanese are trying to get the FCC and the whole world on one certain high frequency radar standard that is becoming more of a positive possibility than not. It's cheaper for OEMs to standardize and also the K band that's operating on it now is too busy and cluttered with such a tiny bandwidth to work with. So this is a win for everyone in the future.

[anandoc]

Absolutely nothing to add to the radar detector conversation here, but I like how you (Trevor) have set up your sig pic to show a different picture each time I open one of your replies.

[Rovert]

I'm busy changing it every minute. [emoji48]

[Rovert]

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Time to learn how this thing works!

[BMWCurves]

Trevor be like:

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[Rovert]

Just as I take delivery Escort unveils their new Redline EX. [emoji23] But that one I think will be 50% more $$.

[704sw]

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Time to learn how this thing works!

Just watched some videos on the Uniden. Wow those alerts are annoying as crap.

[ZHPizza]

Just watched some videos on the Uniden. Wow those alerts are annoying as crap.I ran a K-disabled V1 to chucktown and back. So quiet, and so pleasant when it did go off.

[Rovert]

Annoying is fine if it gets attention with added range for my old person slow reactions. LOL besides I have it set to shut up within 3 secs of alert.

[CarbonZHP]

Ive been quite happy with my Redline. Hardwired up to the right of the rear view. Sent it in to Escort about a year back for service when it started giving me issues and now its fantastic. Helps a lot in Arizona as well as the drive out there, but not much in California

[Rovert]

Just watched some videos on the Uniden. Wow those alerts are annoying as crap.

The new firmware update is so much more configurable. Like our old phones where we can change ringtones!!

https://youtu.be/FaD_5g0o09Q

[slater]

Trevor, are those legal in BC?

They aren't here in Ontario.

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[anandoc]

Trevor, are those legal in BC?

They aren't here in Ontario.

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Not Trevor, but I found a source here which says that it is legal to use them in BC

https://www.kmph.ca/collections/radar-detectors-vancouver-british-columbia

[Rovert]

It's legal all over west and middle of Canada. But the R3 can mask itself in places where it's illegal. So cops can't detect this unit from in their cop car. That's the great thing about this detector. Full stealth ability while only the highest priced escort can do at more than 50% the cost of the R3. Valentine is fully detectable.

[704sw]

The new firmware update is so much more configurable. Like our old phones where we can change ringtones!!

https://youtu.be/FaD_5g0o09Q

Crap man, I'm really liking what I'm reading about this thing. My wallet really hates this forum.


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[slater]

It's legal all over west and middle of Canada. But the R3 can mask itself in places where it's illegal. So cops can't detect this unit from in their cop car. That's the great thing about this detector. Full stealth ability while only the highest priced escort can do at more than 50% the cost of the R3. Valentine is fully detectable.

that's awesome about west/mid canada! i had no idea. one more reason to move to BC. ;)

i wouldn't run it here, though... i would hate to have it confiscated.

when i lived in the US i always had a radar detector. i got so used to having one, that it was really weird when i moved to canada - it was weird getting used to driving without one. now i'd used to it, but if i end up in BC... i'm getting one. :)



Crap man, I'm really liking what I'm reading about this thing. My wallet really hates this forum.

ha. i think my wallet would suffer just as bad if i wasn't a member here... it's ME that's the problem! :rofl

[704sw]

when i lived in the US i always had a radar detector. i got so used to having one, that it was really weird when i moved to canada - it was weird getting used to driving without one. now i'd used to it, but if i end up in BC... i'm getting one. :)

I've gone two periods without one during my entire driving life. After a laser ping got me, and I sold my 8500 X50 to help finance the citation. Made it 3 years before buying the V1, had it for 2 years, and sold it last spring. Both times it's been so weird not having one. I drive way too much for work (right now, hopefully short term) to continue without one.



ha. i think my wallet would suffer just as bad if i wasn't a member here... it's ME that's the problem! :rofl

Help me out here, brother. I'm trying to divert blame, and make myself feel better!

[BMWCurves]

Help me out here, brother. I'm trying to divert blame, and make myself feel better!

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

[704sw]

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

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[Rovert]

I drive way too much for work (right now, hopefully short term) to continue without one.


It's true that if you speed and get caught you have to own up to it once you're found guilty. I don't like the speeding fines here in the province I live because once you go over 25MPH and get caught, you get penalty points that you have to pay to renew your insurance unless you surrender your license to drive for a certain amount of time to lower the points hence your final penalty bill is lessened. You also lose the ability to drive your car for 7 days because it gets impounded. You also have to pay the impound storage fees. So for me, that is just full of baloney...I'm probably being selfish here because there are people who get seriously hurt or killed because of this but same happens when going the speed limit or under the speed limit. I choose to spend $400 for an insurance against all of those fines should I ever get too crazy or not pay attention to a speed limit change. Most people here will speed 10-20MPH over the speed limit, especially on the highway. Once the speed limit goes down and you're still traveling at that same speed, it could translate into your vehicle being impounded because you're an extremely dangerous speeder. LOL

I wish we could get the safety of speed taught better at the source....(advanced) driving school!! Rather than penalize an individual who made an honest mistake, which escalates into making them hate the police more than the media portrays what police do in the negative light.

If you're already a safe driver and you have good throttle pedal discipline, a radar detector shouldn't be a necessity in your life because you know how to use your brain and more common sense than most. It is just an added layer of personal insurance to avoid that far greater cost.

If you're a speed demon and think everyone is on the road to get you so you have to speed around them all, a radar detector will only give you a false hope of "beating the system". It'll allow you to justify dangerous driving habits which will undoubtedly cause greater harm to someone else and/or yourself.

[704sw]

It's true that if you speed and get caught you have to own up to it once you're found guilty. I don't like the speeding fines here in the province I live because once you go over 25MPH and get caught, you get penalty points that you have to pay to renew your insurance unless you surrender your license to drive for a certain amount of time to lower the points hence your final penalty bill is lessened. You also lose the ability to drive your car for 7 days because it gets impounded. You also have to pay the impound storage fees. So for me, that is just full of baloney...I'm probably being selfish here because there are people who get seriously hurt or killed because of this but same happens when going the speed limit or under the speed limit. I choose to spend $400 for an insurance against all of those fines should I ever get too crazy or not pay attention to a speed limit change. Most people here will speed 10-20MPH over the speed limit, especially on the highway. Once the speed limit goes down and you're still traveling at that same speed, it could translate into your vehicle being impounded because you're an extremely dangerous speeder. LOL

I wish we could get the safety of speed taught better at the source....(advanced) driving school!! Rather than penalize an individual who made an honest mistake, which escalates into making them hate the police more than the media portrays what police do in the negative light.

If you're already a safe driver and you have good throttle pedal discipline, a radar detector shouldn't be a necessity in your life because you know how to use your brain and more common sense than most. It is just an added layer of personal insurance to avoid that far greater cost.

If you're a speed demon and think everyone is on the road to get you so you have to speed around them all, a radar detector will only give you a false hope of "beating the system". It'll allow you to justify dangerous driving habits which will undoubtedly cause greater harm to someone else and/or yourself.

All very true, Trevor. I was never a 20+ kind of guy (except the exactly 20-over laser hit of 2010, and that was only because I was running late for work). Sure, I was an idiot as a teenager; but I was also trying to seek thrills in a 168hp 1996 Volvo 850 automatic, and those days are long gone.

I go about 10 over on the highway/7 over on local roads, but like you said it's an added layer of protection. My driving for work usually puts me on rural state highways where the local LEOs are known for stopping people passing through. My personal driving just has me wanting the extra protection because, well, this car kinda' stands out.

[Rovert]

LOL I've been driving this car for three years and 50k miles. I've had zero issues with the popo! Knock on wood. My discipline has built up and become far better than my ZHP. I celebrated last month when I had a Prius overtake me on a small two lane rural road. [emoji23][emoji23] It passed with a whisper and just kept making me smaller and smaller in their rear view mirror. [emoji1423]

[Rovert]

A new video comparison just came up... to save time just click the comparison results in the description link. Uniden is appearing to really kick some butt against the competition for it's incredible price point.


https://youtu.be/qgOenXq95Dc

[Rovert]

The R3 is on SALE for TODAY only...

https://slickdeals.net/f/11351279-uniden-r3-radar-laser-detector-320-ac

$80 off with the 20% coupon today!

EDIT: Just FYI Uniden has requested sellers to raise the R3 price to $499 from $399 after the sale today. I think Uniden has recognized the R3 is worth far more than it is so they're using this sale as a mask to return to "higher" than previous pricing. LOL

EDIT 2: It's sold out. R3s will now be $499 MSRP from now on.

[san]

Well, that escalated quickly [emoji51]


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[Rovert]

Oh you can still get one!!

[Rovert]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401346547122

And use coupon PSPRING20. It ends at 8PM Pacific...or 11PM EST today!

[Newjack]

The new firmware update is so much more configurable. Like our old phones where we can change ringtones!!

https://youtu.be/FaD_5g0o09Q

This was a really good watch. Thanks Trevor