Just another manual swap

[CarbonZHP]

So I just purchased my 5 speed swap kit from norcal. It should be here sometime next week. Comes with everything except flywheel and pressure plate bolts, and pedal assembly. Ill also be throwing in my own clutch. Not sure when the swap will get done, possibly as late as summer given college commitments, but Ill use the time to procure a good clutch and shifter linkage. Wish me luck!

[johnrando]

GL! Never done it before but if you need wrench help, LMK. I don't think we're that far apart, I'm South Bay.

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[BMWCurves]

Awesome :thumbsup

Take lots of pics while you do it. Document the sh*t out of it.

[wsmeyer]

Excellent!

Looking forward to another member of the 3 pedal club!

There's a very detailed DIY on e46f somewhere

[CarbonZHP]

I've got the process down. Only thing I don't have down is the running the clutch lines. At the very least Ill go pro time-lapse it.

[wsmeyer]

Nice. I haven't even looked if it's rubber the whole way down or metal in the middle.

[CarbonZHP]

Since I anticipate being busy til the summer, hopefully I can at least get my head under a manual at a salvage yard and check it out. Maybe find the pedals and clutch master for cheaper.

[BMWCurves]

Liking the new sig pic btw!

[jakksfor20]

Do you have someone set up to do the coding? Planning to do any preventative maintenance (RMS more specifically) while you are doing the swap?

[CarbonZHP]

I have a man from E46F (BaliDawg) that I've gone to for coding before. He updated my auto software and offered to get NCS running for me when I go back. I don't have anything preventative planned yet, but I've just purchased the bulk of the parts. Still need to drop $120 on the pedals and master, then the clutch kit. Trying to speak with people that have done the swap about what hosing and hardlines are needed for clutch.

[wsmeyer]

I have a manual. I'll look at later today. You can look on OEM and figure out what parts are there but I was more wondering if there is a hard line in the middle if it can be installed after the fact. It might have to be bent in place which would be a royal PITA.

[CarbonZHP]

Well I've read plenty of diys and nothing about a hard-line being a difficulty

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[CarbonZHP]

GL! Never done it before but if you need wrench help, LMK. I don't think we're that far apart, I'm South Bay.

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I believe Im very close to you. Maybe someday I could take a peek at your clutch lines to the reservoir and such. And compare identical exhausts.

Edit: Thought you were manual. Disregard.

[johnrando]

Come over, William (wsmeyer) is close to me and he has manual.

[CarbonZHP]

Im in. Can today or tomorrow. Won't be around Saturday or Sunday

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[jakksfor20]

If you order the line from BMW it comes pre-bent. I might have a piece of the hose needed from reservoir to clutch pedal. Bmw sends a pretty good length of it and we didn't use it all.


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[CarbonZHP]

Just bought a pedal assembly with clutch master, rubber hose, and hard-line. Appears to be all I need.

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[wsmeyer]

Are you able to just cut the sealed end of the reservoir nipple?

[CarbonZHP]

I believe so. All that does is feed the low pressure line to the clutch master

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[wsmeyer]

I'm fascinated by this because you live close and will soon have experience basically changing a clutch.

[CarbonZHP]

I'll keep it posted on here when I go through with it. Like I said, I expect to be pretty tied up with school and engineering is no walk in the park. I'll be doing the work in hacienda heights when it happens

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[wsmeyer]

I've only glanced at Rando's but there's a picture of one here and definitely looks like you just cut it:

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?11957-The-Random-E46-ZHP-Question-Thread&p=465734#post465734

[CarbonZHP]

Correct

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[wsmeyer]

Should have thought of it earlier but I have a pedal you can have.

[wsmeyer]

I've got an extra clutch stop as well

[CarbonZHP]

The whole assembly though? I bought a brake and pedal assembly with master cylinder and both lines for 130 on eBay

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[wsmeyer]

Just pedal. I'm running one from Mason Engineering:

http://www.masonengineering.net/Subpages/Other_BMW_Products.htm

scroll to the bottom

[CarbonZHP]

Interesting. How do you like that? I was planning on finding an E60 545 Shifter for now as well

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[wsmeyer]

I love it. Shorter throw and a little longer makes it feel more precise. Also running the UUC EVO3 shifter and DSSR

[CarbonZHP]

Got the chance to go the Hacienda Heights and see my parts for the first time. Looks all good, but Ill need to assemble the two halves of the drive shaft, and transfer my existing CV joint to it. Also picked up a new Gripforce FX HD clutch kit from a E46F member in San Diego. Came with a lightweight 16lb flywheel. Still missing a couple little parts for the swap. While I was there I also went ahead and deleted the CDV from the slave cylinder.

Clutch Master Cylinder Sensor
Shift Knob
Coby Manual Shift Boot
Metal Pedal covers for the new pedals
Rear Shift Linkage Bushing
Pressure Plate Bolts
E60 545 Shifter (optional)

[CarbonZHP]

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[BMWCurves]

Nice, that 5-speed will look good with your manual swap.

[CarbonZHP]

Down to the little details. Theres a good chance the swap will be going through in 2 weeks. Anyone have experience on what MTF/ATF to run in this box with a lightweight flywheel? I read one site that suggested a mix of 2 different Redline fluids.

[CarbonZHP]

SWAP T-1 Week! Just bought Redline 75W140NS and Redline MT 90W for the trans. Primarily the 75W, then the 90 to top it off, as recommended by UUC for a lightweight flywheel to minimize chatter.

[CarbonZHP]

Wanted to check with guys that know, since this is my first time taking a look at the shift lever. This is an OEM E60 550 lever I just bought new. Is this curve to the right correct? 24514

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[az3579]

Do you mean correct in general or correct for the E46?
If you mean correct in general, yes - it's supposed to be there.

Whether or not the curve is correct for an E46, I don't know. Not all shift levers sit perfectly when used in a different chassis...
Did you research to find out if this shift lever has been done in an E46? If it has and it was fine for them, it'll be fine for you.

Based on a quick Google Image search, the amount of bend looks similar to the E46 lever - take that as you will.

[CarbonZHP]

Yes this lever is common in E46's. About a 30% shorter throw than stock

[Pip]

Yes this lever is common in E46's. About a 30% shorter throw than stock

Believe I'm using this in my m3. E60 550d shifter...I think.




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[CarbonZHP]

Yeah its a common cheap short shift. ZHP knob as well

[CarbonZHP]

Swap is done :rolleyes

[BMWCurves]

Congrats! How does it feel?

[CarbonZHP]

Pretty great. Only hitch right now is that if I press the clutch pedal to the floor, it grinds. Even though engagement is at half way

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[BMWCurves]

That's odd...is it the clutch that's "grinding" or a gear? Do you know the source of the issue?

[CarbonZHP]

It feels like it's in the pedal. Very strange. And no it'll happen with the car in neutral

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[johnrando]

Congrats! Hope you iron out the issue

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[CarbonZHP]

Found what I believe may be a revolutionary discovery. I was able to use PA soft only to get the car started, code the dash, and the DSC. All I was left with was the CEL. I noticed that this CEL was caused only by removing the blue relay in the engine bay so I could connect the reverse switch loom. After playing around in there, I found that the CEL can be defeated by simply jumping 2 of these pins left open by removing the relay. My car is now error free, using only PA soft. Enjoy http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160303/c1b4ac31e1452794c2f2b92fc8eabb82.jpg

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[CarbonZHP]

Strike that. This jump removed one of the CEL codes but P0700 still remains. Working on it

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[johnrando]

Getting there, cool.

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[CarbonZHP]

Hopped back in the car today and seemingly out of no where, there is a ton of shift lever play. Great

[GotZHP]

O Man. glad you got the swap done Carbon, but seems there are some items to iron out. I am down in LA / Irvine now. Busy this weekend but have the next to free and would love to see the swap. I can lend a hand if you need any. Hope you get the grinding and shifter play fixed wuicked

[CarbonZHP]

O Man. glad you got the swap done Carbon, but seems there are some items to iron out. I am down in LA / Irvine now. Busy this weekend but have the next to free and would love to see the swap. I can lend a hand if you need any. Hope you get the grinding and shifter play fixed wuicked

Thanks man. The grinding is fixed. Since it would only happen with the clutch to the floor, far past the engagement point, I installed a clutch stop and that issue is resolved. The play was minimal before, but it seems to have increased. I really wonder what it is, since the front and rear bushings are brand new. First guess is the shift pin on the trans, next the plastic cup, thirdly a clip came off the linkage

[CarbonZHP]

The fact that I can grab the shift lever and literally rotate it left and right means one of the c clips must have come off

[kakashi169]

Where did you get your clutch stop? I want one.

[CarbonZHP]

Went to Lowe's. Bought a 3/8 elevator bolt. Does the job perfectly

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[CarbonZHP]

Ill be under the car soon. Just some confirmation needed. Since the shifter is very sloppy and the gear lever itself will actually rotate when in neutral, my guess is one of the linkage circlips is not on, correct?

[BMWCurves]

That would be my guess. Is your shifter height adjustable? It might be that the adjustable upper portion is somehow loose, giving the effect of rotation.

[CarbonZHP]

Shifter is stock E60 550 lever

[CarbonZHP]

Just checked. The slop is from the Shift Joint on the back of the trans. The linkage going to is has no movement, but there is a decent amount of movement in the black squareish piece on the trans that selects the gears

[CarbonZHP]

Replaced the shift joint and bled the clutch more this weekend. Was going great, until the clutch lost all pressure and went to the floor. Turns out I didn't tighten the bleed valve all the way. It failed in my school parking garage after driving 45 minutes on the 105. At least I didn't need a tow. The car will have to sit here now until I can pressure bleed it again

[wsmeyer]

I can bring you a pressure bleeder if necessary.

[CarbonZHP]

I've been using a pressure bleeder for hours with no luck. If the bleed nut is released at all, air goes through the threads. I'm going to try the two person pedal push and release method

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[wsmeyer]

I'm surprised you're having so much trouble. Unlike brake lines the clutch line is entirely vertical so once you get enough air out of the line for it to work the rest of the air will usually bleed itself out back up the line

[ELCID86]

I'm surprised you're having so much trouble. Unlike brake lines the clutch line is entirely vertical so once you get enough air out of the line for it to work the rest of the air will usually bleed itself out back up the line

Novaphotog needs to read this. #stopthe worry


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[CarbonZHP]

Took another stab at it. After pulling the clutch stop out and pumping the pedal, it stiffened up after 20 full presses. All good right now

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[Sockethead]

Glad you got it sorted out. Vertical lines are a bitch to bleed sometimes... just ask anyone that has had an air bubble stuck in the front brake line on their motorcycle...

[johnrando]

Glad that worked out.

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[CarbonZHP]

May be going to look at an Imola ZHP coupe 6 speed with alcantera interior. All original. 130k. 6.5k. Worth it?

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[az3579]

May be going to look at an Imola ZHP coupe 6 speed with alcantera interior. All original. 130k. 6.5k. Worth it?

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Little on the cheap side... Price is nice but be prepared to put some money into it. You know what they say... "If it's too good to be true..."

Could be a potential deal.

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[Sockethead]

carfax?

[BMWCurves]

Interesting. Would you keep it with your current ZHP or...?

Could be good. Go see it, CarFax it, PPI it, etc.


Little on the cheap side... Price is nice but be prepared to put some money into it. You know what they say... "If it's too good to be true..."

Could be a potential deal.

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See also: the most expensive car is a cheap German car.