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Scorpius
10-16-2015, 08:07 PM
I have a 2004 zhp, original owner, 256k on her :-) and get this....original clutch :-0
So she's getting old, eats a quart of oil about every week or two which is about 500-800 miles for me.
Occasionally she throws codes, but usually nothing noticeably different in how she runs so I either reset them or drive another week and they magically disappear. Rarely when they throw she runs a little rough, but if i get into the revs with her it seems to resolve itself (burning off excess fuel or oil ?)
So latest codes I checked were
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So she's obviously eating oil, there are no visible leaks in usual spots and when I rev her she does put out some black/grey smoke. I assume this could be anything from piston rings to head to valve leaks.
Should I run her in and pay $150 for the diagnosis at the dealer ? Local shops just throw out she's old replace the engine.
I hear there are some tests in the meter I could look at to help identify the culprit but I know zero about the reader or understanding the indicators and values beyond reading the codes that flip.
Any advice / ideas on the issue?
Or just run her fill oil often and shoot for another 50-100k until clutch or engine take a dump on me?
KevinC
10-16-2015, 08:41 PM
Sounds like you want to keep the car. I'd go shopping for a replacement motor from a boneyard. Find something <100k miles for cheap, swap it in, do the clutch at the same time since you're in there anyways, and drive another 150k+ miles of smiles. Beats the shit out of a new car payment!
danewilson77
10-17-2015, 10:44 AM
I've had those codes more than once on my car.
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ELCID86
10-17-2015, 12:02 PM
Codes are probs a vacuum leak. Start with upper and lower intake boots. Will a catch can help with oil consumption?
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slater
10-17-2015, 06:05 PM
how's your CCV system? i was surprised by how a clogged system can make the car consume oil.
switching to a catch can system, for me, means zero oil usage.
peter
Scorpius
10-18-2015, 06:02 AM
how's your CCV system? i was surprised by how a clogged system can make the car consume oil.
switching to a catch can system, for me, means zero oil usage.
peter
I changed that out a few months back for the 2nd time of the life of the car. When I removed the oil cap car stumbled denoting it wasn't working. It was oily inside when I broke the old one apart.
What's this catch can system? Direct replacement or backyard fix? Hadn't heard or seen this one before.
As for codes, how can I check for leaks? Besides visual which I've checked and see nothing obvious....
ELCID86
10-18-2015, 08:30 AM
There is a thread or two here on catch can installs.
Codes and associated leaks can be a B to find. Several threads on e46f (and probably here) that can point you in the right direction.
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Scorpius
11-04-2015, 06:06 AM
Believe I found the issue. Cleaned my MAF and my kn filter which was pretty dirty. Average mileage went from 23-24 and is now 25.8.
No light yet at 55 miles since reset. Normally it's on by about 42.
Keeping fingers crossed. I gotta pass that emissions :-)
ryankokesh
11-04-2015, 08:38 AM
Good luck!
For future reference, German Auto Solutions is working on a pretty slick-looking serviceable CCV (https://www.germanautosolutions.com/bmw_solutions/ccv_products/m54_gas_ccv/product_m54_ccv.php).
That bad boy's already been replaced twice on mine, so I have a feeling something like this is in my future.
slater
11-04-2015, 08:49 AM
Good luck!
For future reference, German Auto Solutions is working on a pretty slick-looking serviceable CCV (https://www.germanautosolutions.com/bmw_solutions/ccv_products/m54_gas_ccv/product_m54_ccv.php).
yeah, they've been 'working' on that for a few years now. i would love to see it come to fruition, though, because i would buy one!
peter
BMWCurves
11-04-2015, 08:58 AM
That GAS unit looks nice, but if it's been in development for years I won't hold my breath. I'm still considering a catch can solution down the road.
slater
11-04-2015, 09:23 AM
That GAS unit looks nice, but if it's been in development for years I won't hold my breath. I'm still considering a catch can solution down the road.
that's what i'm using. it works very well. i implemented mine in a non-destructive way - i could go back to the stock CCV configuration at any time... but this works so well. my ONLY issue is the same thing that plagues the stock CCV - it can freeze in the winter. i am working on a heater/heating pad solution for the catch can (it's metal) so that it never freezes. depending on the temps generated by the heating pad, it could potentially work on the stock CCV too.
peter
Scorpius
11-04-2015, 04:52 PM
109.6 miles today and no check engine light!!! I think it's safe to say the computer has reset! Now to get to the emissions place ASAP !
Amazing dirty filter and or MAF can throw so many codes.
BMWCurves
11-04-2015, 05:56 PM
that's what i'm using. it works very well. i implemented mine in a non-destructive way - i could go back to the stock CCV configuration at any time... but this works so well. my ONLY issue is the same thing that plagues the stock CCV - it can freeze in the winter. i am working on a heater/heating pad solution for the catch can (it's metal) so that it never freezes. depending on the temps generated by the heating pad, it could potentially work on the stock CCV too.
peter
You made a your own kit, right? Not a plug and play kit from a manufacturer?
109.6 miles today and no check engine light!!! I think it's safe to say the computer has reset! Now to get to the emissions place ASAP !
Amazing dirty filter and or MAF can throw so many codes.
Nice, hope it stays CEL free
slater
11-04-2015, 07:52 PM
You made a your own kit, right? Not a plug and play kit from a manufacturer?
yep. it's extremely easy to replicate, i think the total cost was around $110 - but the X factor in the price is what catch can you use. i actually have a nicer one sitting on the shelf, it will go in soon. it is the 42DraftDesigns unit, it has a drain valve.
peter
Scorpius
11-06-2015, 06:45 AM
Wouldn't you friggen know it. 210 miles since reset and on way to emissions damn light came on again. 420 and 430 codes. Arrrrrrggggg
ELCID86
11-06-2015, 02:29 PM
Sorry Scorp. I think that's about the right mileage the computer needs...
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danewilson77
11-07-2015, 05:15 AM
Damn. You're not alone.
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Scorpius
11-07-2015, 03:02 PM
Got my scan tool with me I thought they reset around 50-100. Once I see active scan I'm heading straight to it for emissions test. Car seems to run fine with light just burns oil and occasionally will stumble for a second. I'm scared some idiot will read my codes and tell me I need $2k + worth of work done to it. And when they finally do fix it the real culprit is a $20 part
Dr Dynamite
12-07-2015, 04:19 PM
Got my scan tool with me I thought they reset around 50-100. Once I see active scan I'm heading straight to it for emissions test. Car seems to run fine with light just burns oil and occasionally will stumble for a second. I'm scared some idiot will read my codes and tell me I need $2k + worth of work done to it. And when they finally do fix it the real culprit is a $20 part
Are you in Southern California?
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Scorpius
03-15-2016, 06:27 PM
No south Atlanta
johnrando
03-18-2016, 06:56 AM
Are you in Southern California?
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I have a scan tool and PA-Soft if you need some code reading. I'm in the South Bay.
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