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az3579
08-11-2015, 07:54 AM
This is an important distinction as they are different interiors, and Dove is not available on E46. Just wanted to make sure people know because I keep seeing this tossed around.

That is all. :)


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rguti153
08-11-2015, 07:59 AM
Do what is it call ?

NoVAphotog
08-11-2015, 08:03 AM
YOU HAVE SUBSCRIBED TO E46 FACTS WITH BOTOND! PLEASE REPLY "VANOS" TO THIS THREAD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP YOUR SUBSCRIPTION!

BMWCurves
08-11-2015, 08:05 AM
Haha I'm definitely guilty of this. I even know it's not and I still call it that out of habit because someone else here called it that when I first joined.

Its true color code is N6TT and I believe it's called just "grey," for people who care.

az3579
08-11-2015, 08:12 AM
Do what is it call ?
Just grey. :thumbsup

YOU HAVE SUBSCRIBED TO E46 FACTS WITH BOTOND! PLEASE REPLY "VANOS" TO THIS THREAD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP YOUR SUBSCRIPTION!
:rofl

Haha I'm definitely guilty of this. I even know it's not and I still call it that out of habit because someone else here called it that when I first joined.

Its true color code is N6TT and I believe it's called just "grey," for people who care.
Yeah it just seems like everyone's calling it that when it just isn't, so I figure it would be a good idea throw this out there to make sure folks know. It's kind of like the distinction between OE and OEM, quite a difference.

Dove is a lighter shade, almost white (and IMO looks better), available on the E36 platform.

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ryankokesh
08-11-2015, 08:14 AM
VANOS







:danehappy

cakM3
08-11-2015, 08:18 AM
Its true color code is N6TT and I believe it's called just "grey," for people who care.

It's UGLY. My ///M came with N6TT and I got rid of it a few years ago.... UGLY....

BMWCurves
08-11-2015, 08:19 AM
YOU HAVE SUBSCRIBED TO E46 FACTS WITH BOTOND! PLEASE REPLY "VANOS" TO THIS THREAD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP YOUR SUBSCRIPTION!

How do I subscribe?

NoVAphotog
08-11-2015, 08:21 AM
How do I subscribe?

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ryankokesh
08-11-2015, 08:22 AM
VANOS VANOS VANOS

cakM3
08-11-2015, 08:23 AM
you guyz.... :rofl

NoVAphotog
08-11-2015, 08:29 AM
VANOS VANOS VANOS

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ryankokesh
08-11-2015, 08:34 AM
THANK YOU FOR RENEWING YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO E46 FACTS WITH BOTOND AND DANIEL! DID YOU KNOW THAT WHEN COMPLETING A CCV REPAIR IT IS ESTIMATED THAT UP TO 7-8 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES MAY BE CONSUMED DURING THE OPERATING PERIOD AND UP TO AND EXCEEDING 50-71 4 LETTER CURSE WORDS BEGINNING WITH THE LETTER "F" AND "S" SPOKEN!

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fredo
08-11-2015, 08:39 AM
LOL ... Best posts I've seen in a long time !

TigerTater
08-11-2015, 09:07 AM
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Johnmadd
08-11-2015, 09:32 AM
Haha, Daniel is on fire!

BMWCurves
08-11-2015, 10:14 AM
CCV

(I want to see how deep this rabbit hole goes)

NoVAphotog
08-11-2015, 10:54 AM
CCV


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Vas
08-11-2015, 11:24 AM
Carbon Fiber. Please confirm if M3 is the holy grail.

az3579
08-11-2015, 11:54 AM
Carbon Fiber. Please confirm if M3 is the holy grail.

DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS E46 FACTS SUBSCRIPTION? THE UNSUBSCRIBE MECHANISM IS THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK! ISN'T THAT GREAT?!?!

ELCID86
08-11-2015, 05:14 PM
LOL


Thumbs, iPhone, TaT.

johnrando
08-14-2015, 07:10 AM
:rofl

ecrabb
08-14-2015, 11:58 AM
It's UGLY. My ///M came with N6TT and I got rid of it a few years ago.... UGLY....

I wasn't aware until you posted that my car's interior was UGLY. Good to know.

SC

Hornung418
08-14-2015, 06:26 PM
THANK YOU FOR SUBSCRIBING TO E46 FACTS!!!!! DID YOU KNOW THAT TANIN RED LEATHER WAS AN OPTIONAL INTERIOR ON E46 VEHICLES PRODUCED BETWEEN 1999-2001. NATURAL BROWN SUPERSEDED IT FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS! PLEASE REPLY "CCV" FOR MORE E46 FACTS!!
Just ask Scott Germaine's cousin. He had a 2002 prefacelift sedan with that interior...

az3579
08-14-2015, 08:06 PM
I was hoping that would stay buried...

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Simmsled
08-17-2015, 09:54 AM
I have been restoring my 1999 323i and it has grey leather as well.
I tried to color match with SEM Classic Coat 17353 "BMW Silver Gray" and that coating is definitely lighter.
SO, going to try SEM Color Coat Medium Gray 15393.

Do E90s have the same Gray as E46s?

az3579
08-17-2015, 10:08 AM
I have been restoring my 1999 323i and it has grey leather as well.
I tried to color match with SEM Classic Coat 17353 "BMW Silver Gray" and that coating is definitely lighter.

The leather in your 323i is Dove Grey. What you have may or may not be correct, but it should come out lighter since worn-out Dove Grey does get darker as it ages. Did you try to do a full cleaning using Leatherique products? That should bring out its true color so you can have a better comparison to the product you're using. Is it some kind of dye or is it paint?




Do E90s have the same Gray as E46s?

I believe so. It wasn't called anything different for the E90's, just grey. There is a whitish color called Oyster, but is much much lighter than the grey and is two-toned throughout the interior instead of all grey like the standard grey interior.

The M3's also had Palladium Silver, which is a variation of grey, but that was also two-toned.

Simmsled
08-17-2015, 10:33 AM
The leather in your 323i is Dove Grey. What you have may or may not be correct, but it should come out lighter since worn-out Dove Grey does get darker as it ages. Did you try to do a full cleaning using Leatherique products? That should bring out its true color so you can have a better comparison to the product you're using. Is it some kind of dye or is it paint?

I believe so. It wasn't called anything different for the E90's, just grey. There is a whitish color called Oyster, but is much much lighter than the grey and is two-toned throughout the interior instead of all grey like the standard grey interior.

The M3's also had Palladium Silver, which is a variation of grey, but that was also two-toned.

Yup. Already did full application of Leatherique & Pristine Clean.
The leather is miraculously in great shape with the exception of some drivers seat wear.

According to the VIN Decoder I do have N6TT in the 323i. The original window sticker just says "Grey" as well.
Standardleder/grau (N6TT)

The SEM Color Coat (and Classic Coat) is not a dye, but a fade resistant flexible and permanent coating.
It is a pro-level type product and I haven't seen it in any retail automotive store. Had to get it from a specialty automotive upholstery shop.
A friend has used the SEM Medium Grey on his E90 with grey interior with a perfect match.
I'm going to get a can of the Medium Grey and see how it turns out. If it is an exact match for the E46, I'll put up a diy!

Think of it as an uber-mega-strength (smooth) pro-PlastiDip, if you will. VERY abrasion resistant.

az3579
08-17-2015, 11:02 AM
Yup. Already did full application of Leatherique & Pristine Clean.
The leather is miraculously in great shape with the exception of some drivers seat wear.

According to the VIN Decoder I do have N6TT in the 323i. The original window sticker just says "Grey" as well.
Standardleder/grau (N6TT)

Just to clarify, you have an E36 323 or an E46?

The E46 is definitely standard grey. Medium grey would sound about right considering the shade that the E46 has. The E36 is definitely Dove, which is lighter, and would match the first can you got.



The SEM Color Coat (and Classic Coat) is not a dye, but a fade resistant flexible and permanent coating.
It is a pro-level type product and I haven't seen it in any retail automotive store. Had to get it from a specialty automotive upholstery shop.
A friend has used the SEM Medium Grey on his E90 with grey interior with a perfect match.
I'm going to get a can of the Medium Grey and see how it turns out. If it is an exact match for the E46, I'll put up a diy!

Think of it as an uber-mega-strength (smooth) pro-PlastiDip, if you will. VERY abrasion resistant.

I'm intrigued about this product. Is there any place to buy it online?

Simmsled
08-17-2015, 12:57 PM
Just to clarify, you have an E36 323 or an E46?

The E46 is definitely standard grey. Medium grey would sound about right considering the shade that the E46 has. The E36 is definitely Dove, which is lighter, and would match the first can you got.



I'm intrigued about this product. Is there any place to buy it online?


Yup. Its an E46.
October 1998 production; 196k miles young at this point!

Looks like the Medium Gray can be purchased on Amazon. My guy locally sells it for about $17 with tax.
http://amzn.com/B000PKX0KM

For black, it is magic. If it is as good on grey, its definitely a winner.

az3579
08-18-2015, 03:44 AM
Yup. Its an E46.
October 1998 production; 196k miles young at this point!

Looks like the Medium Gray can be purchased on Amazon. My guy locally sells it for about $17 with tax.
http://amzn.com/B000PKX0KM

For black, it is magic. If it is as good on grey, its definitely a winner.

Darn. Too bad they don't specifically match BMW colors. I assume you had to go with "close enough", right?
My headrests for some reason look like they've gone through a failed dye attempt before I got my interior, and my rear seats the same. They need to be redyed, but I have Natural Brown, so it's not easy to find something that's easy and cheap. :(

UdubBadger
08-18-2015, 05:26 AM
Rofl


GoingHAM mobile

Simmsled
08-19-2015, 02:03 PM
Darn. Too bad they don't specifically match BMW colors. I assume you had to go with "close enough", right?
My headrests for some reason look like they've gone through a failed dye attempt before I got my interior, and my rear seats the same. They need to be redyed, but I have Natural Brown, so it's not easy to find something that's easy and cheap. :(

You know, SEM makes a TON of colors.
They do send sample colors to you if you request them on their website.

If there is anything close to a match for NB, we could be onto something here!

330i Lover
08-19-2015, 07:00 PM
Carbon.......fiber?

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