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Vas
05-29-2015, 12:03 PM
ECS has now pulled the exhaust from their site.

Wonder if these weren't as 'available' as they thought.

I asked them about the exhaust. Got a reply that states

"The product was removed from the site because we reached the limit of units we placed on order, if we receive more than we expect then they will become active online again."

Simmsled
05-29-2015, 12:41 PM
Noted!

hcbeck2689
06-01-2015, 08:13 PM
Picked this baby up Friday morning! I'm stoked I got it. Like I said earlier, the dealer called all around the states until he found another dealer who had it in stock. I am going to try this method and see if I can't score another exhaust for one of y'all.
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BMWCurves
06-01-2015, 08:46 PM
Nice, congrats! Be sure to post pics once you get it installed! Let me know if you find another, I'm interested.

BADCLOWN
06-02-2015, 02:42 PM
Super jealous.

Whammy
06-03-2015, 05:51 AM
Picked this baby up Friday morning! I'm stoked I got it. Like I said earlier, the dealer called all around the states until he found another dealer who had it in stock. I am going to try this method and see if I can't score another exhaust for one of y'all.
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Soooo want and so jealous you got one.

thesixsins
06-05-2015, 10:49 PM
Picked this baby up Friday morning! I'm stoked I got it. Like I said earlier, the dealer called all around the states until he found another dealer who had it in stock. I am going to try this method and see if I can't score another exhaust for one of y'all.


Awesome! That's how I got my strut brace! Haha

Vas
06-06-2015, 01:59 PM
June 10th is approaching wonder what will happen.

BADCLOWN
06-07-2015, 09:38 AM
wheres the install pics?

hcbeck2689
06-07-2015, 11:51 AM
wheres the install pics?

Too busy to mess with it. Maybe tomorrow when I change my oil.


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chacend
06-08-2015, 10:52 AM
Stopped by my dealer the other day for something and decided to check with the parts counter to see if they had one of these. No joy, but the parts guy did a system inquiry and handed me a list of dealers that showed one in stock. There were 6 nationwide according to the system but with the varying dates of last update looking quite old I wasn't very hopeful. Most didn't have it, one dealer had it in a performance parts display and want willing to sell it (says he gets calls frequently for it). Tried the last one out in Washington state, he also had the muffler in a display but still had all the parts and the box, bought it for $83 including shipping and tax. Should be here next week!!!!:headbang

fredo
06-08-2015, 10:58 AM
That's good news, man !

Vas
06-08-2015, 11:40 AM
Stopped by my dealer the other day for something and decided to check with the parts counter to see if they had one of these. No joy, but the parts guy did a system inquiry and handed me a list of dealers that showed one in stock. There were 6 nationwide according to the system but with the varying dates of last update looking quite old I wasn't very hopeful. Most didn't have it, one dealer had it in a performance parts display and want willing to sell it (says he gets calls frequently for it). Tried the last one out in Washington state, he also had the muffler in a display but still had all the parts and the box, bought it for $83 including shipping and tax. Should be here next week!!!!:headbang
Locations of places that have it ?

BADCLOWN
06-08-2015, 12:18 PM
a dealership in IL is showing (1) in their inventory but they apparently don't have one.

a dealership in NC is showing (1) in their inventory and this dealership has one on display and WILL NOT SELL IT (for some dumb reason, even though he said they get multiple calls)


those are the only two showing in the US according to The BMW Store of Cincinnati

Vas
06-08-2015, 12:45 PM
a dealership in IL is showing (1) in their inventory but they apparently don't have one.

a dealership in NC is showing (1) in their inventory and this dealership has one on display and WILL NOT SELL IT (for some dumb reason, even though he said they get multiple calls)


those are the only two showing in the US according to The BMW Store of Cincinnati

Thanks. Hopefully somebody will get one

chacend
06-08-2015, 01:01 PM
Thanks. Hopefully somebody will get one

Yep thats what I saw too, I got mine (fingers crossed) from the Tacoma, WA area.

The NC dealer is the same one I mentioned. None of the others have one despite what the system shows I called them all.

chacend
06-08-2015, 04:13 PM
Just got my UPS tracking number!

Vas
06-08-2015, 04:53 PM
Lucky.

JB3
06-08-2015, 05:10 PM
Which dealer in NC? Leith? Performance? Schaeffer?

Two of these three I could likely try to leverage.

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BADCLOWN
06-08-2015, 05:13 PM
Don't recall which one but they said 100% they will not sell it.

Vas
06-08-2015, 05:17 PM
I bet if you drove down there and told them to sell and install it, they would do it.

JB3
06-08-2015, 05:24 PM
I'll bet with my history of car buying, working with them on various projects, and playing golf with guys from the parts dept.... I could get it. From two of them. Not trying to say I'm hot shit or anything, but I'd be surprised if I couldn't get it from 1, and almost as surprised if my buddy that orders M3s like birthday cakes couldn't get it from the 2nd one. :rofl

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Vas
06-08-2015, 05:52 PM
Do it then.

chacend
06-08-2015, 06:09 PM
It's Sale BMW, I believe in Kinston, NC. Good luck, seems kind of stupid they won't sell it, but I guess for only $53 they like their display as is.

JB3
06-08-2015, 06:13 PM
Got no hookups in Kinston, but thanks for listing who it was.

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BADCLOWN
06-08-2015, 06:28 PM
That's disappointing, I wanted to see that clout in action..................would've even started a betting pool

JB3
06-08-2015, 06:30 PM
Hahaahaa. Me too.

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LobsterTail
06-08-2015, 08:27 PM
I just saw this. I just ordered one too. I guess I'll find out if it is still available tomorrow morning. The payment went through though.

Simmsled
06-08-2015, 09:40 PM
Now that they're "all gone", I wonder where the price for one will end up.

Vas
06-09-2015, 06:21 AM
Got an email from ECS about my order. States

"One or more of your products on your order are en route to our warehouse and will be processed for shipment within 48 hours (2 business days) excluding weekends. "

NoVAphotog
06-09-2015, 06:24 AM
Got an email from ECS about my order. States

"One or more of your products on your order are en route to our warehouse and will be processed for shipment within 48 hours (2 business days) excluding weekends. "

:thumbsup

sounds like you'll be one of the "lucky few" Vas

Vas
06-09-2015, 06:43 AM
:thumbsup

sounds like you'll be one of the "lucky few" Vas

Fingers crossed.

squashman702
06-10-2015, 03:08 PM
Spoke to ECS on their chat today, they bought all of the remaining exhausts from BMW in Germany. Apparently they're on the boat now, but are not due in until at least late June.

Vas
06-10-2015, 06:04 PM
Spoke to ECS on their chat today, they bought all of the remaining exhausts from BMW in Germany. Apparently they're on the boat now, but are not due in until at least late June.
That's what they told me as well. Back to waiting

Simmsled
06-10-2015, 09:16 PM
It will be worth it.

hcbeck2689
06-13-2015, 01:29 PM
I just went to install it thinking it would be an easy swap, but it looks like I need to cut the pipe to mate the me muffler section on. I'm not sure if I want to tackle this or not, but I figure all I need is a hack saw. Thoughts?


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Vas
06-13-2015, 01:41 PM
Pretty much. Get to hacking away. Measure twice cut once.

hcbeck2689
06-13-2015, 01:46 PM
Ok. Guess I'm gonna be putting it off another day


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squashman702
06-13-2015, 02:56 PM
I just went to install it thinking it would be an easy swap, but it looks like I need to cut the pipe to mate the me muffler section on. I'm not sure if I want to tackle this or not, but I figure all I need is a hack saw. Thoughts?


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Good time to buy a 4.5" angle grinder, cutoff wheel, and a flap wheel. Much cleaner and faster cut than a hacksaw.

hcbeck2689
06-13-2015, 02:57 PM
I'm pretty broke right now so I am just gonna use what tools I can borrow. I'll see if I can get ahold of angle grinder though


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Just_George
06-13-2015, 03:28 PM
Where are you located? Probably not close enough, but if you are I can loan you a grinder & wheels. I'm in Ann Arbor, MI....don't recall any other members close by though.


I'm pretty broke right now so I am just gonna use what tools I can borrow. I'll see if I can get ahold of angle grinder though


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Simmsled
06-13-2015, 04:24 PM
I used a free tool rental exhaust pipe cutter from Oreillys.

Took some elbow grease, but went smoothly. Great even cut.
Looks like a whip with wheels on it connected to pliers.

hcbeck2689
06-13-2015, 04:53 PM
Where are you located? Probably not close enough, but if you are I can loan you a grinder & wheels. I'm in Ann Arbor, MI....don't recall any other members close by though.

I'm on NC coast. I usually borrow my landlords tools but he is out of town for a few weeks. I'll look into the rental


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chacend
06-15-2015, 03:15 AM
UPS says "out for delivery"!

Vas
06-15-2015, 05:24 AM
Sweet

chacend
06-15-2015, 12:40 PM
Success!

20312

hcbeck2689
06-15-2015, 12:48 PM
I cut the pipe today. Used the "tail pipe cutter" that I rented for free. Was a royal PIA, but fitment seems good. I won't know until I tighten up the new exhaust.
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hcbeck2689
06-15-2015, 12:52 PM
Until then I'll have a little fun :biggrin
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Vas
06-15-2015, 12:56 PM
Nice sound clip.

You guys should post installed pics.

hcbeck2689
06-15-2015, 01:06 PM
I will when I install it. I will also have before and after sound clips. Above is no muffler. It threw off a service engine soon light surprisingly


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BMWCurves
06-15-2015, 01:37 PM
Sounds yummy to me!


I will when I install it. I will also have before and after sound clips. Above is no muffler. It threw off a service engine soon light surprisingly

Eh, I doubt it's related to the muffler. If I had to hazard a guess, your blinker fluid is low. Common problem.

hcbeck2689
06-15-2015, 01:40 PM
Eh, I doubt it's related to the muffler. If I had to hazard a guess, your blinker fluid is low. Common problem.

That makes sense. I was wondering why my blinkers were working sporadically on the way to the gym.


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chacend
06-20-2015, 12:47 PM
Any new news from those waiting?

Vas
07-10-2015, 11:51 AM
Ship date is today according to ECS Tuning

squashman702
07-10-2015, 05:51 PM
Didn't hear anything from ECS today.

Vas
07-11-2015, 05:24 PM
Nothing from them yet either

Vas
07-17-2015, 10:48 AM
Well ECStuning gave me a call and said BMW will not supply them with the 60 orders they had from them. So my order is cancelled.

Simmsled
07-17-2015, 11:49 AM
Well ECStuning gave me a call and said BMW will not supply them with the 60 orders they had from them. So my order is cancelled.

DOH!!!

Vas
07-17-2015, 12:38 PM
Quote directly from ECStuning

"BMW has just given us some bad news, the exhaust systems we've promised you (and they've promised us) are not coming. This comes as a shock to us as well as all of you after the numerous communications of moved etas but the understanding that the parts were still coming. We have exhausted our efforts in attempting to source the E46 BMW Performance exhaust systems from all markets and send our deepest apologies to anyone who has been waiting patiently.

-James "

ELCID86
07-17-2015, 03:59 PM
Crock.


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BMWCurves
07-17-2015, 06:19 PM
Quote directly from ECStuning

"BMW has just given us some bad news, the exhaust systems we've promised you (and they've promised us) are not coming. This comes as a shock to us as well as all of you after the numerous communications of moved etas but the understanding that the parts were still coming. We have exhausted our efforts in attempting to source the E46 BMW Performance exhaust systems from all markets and send our deepest apologies to anyone who has been waiting patiently.

-James "

Damn, sorry. That's worse than being told months ago they couldn't fulfill orders, you waited so long!

Vas
07-17-2015, 07:13 PM
Damn, sorry. That's worse than being told months ago they couldn't fulfill orders, you waited so long!
Yeah i was pretty excited about it too. Especially since i was one of the first people to order them.

chacend
07-18-2015, 02:19 PM
Yeah i was pretty excited about it too. Especially since i was one of the first people to order them.

That's some bulls**t right there. So let me get this straight, everyone's order from a dealer got canxd because ECS bought them all, but then ECS didn't get them either? Someone's not telling the truth. I think ECS sold way more then they could get ahold of and it bit them in the butt. They had to know a while back these weren't coming and just strung people along.

Avetiso
07-19-2015, 01:57 PM
That's some bulls**t right there. So let me get this straight, everyone's order from a dealer got canxd because ECS bought them all, but then ECS didn't get them either? Someone's not telling the truth. I think ECS sold way more then they could get ahold of and it bit them in the butt. They had to know a while back these weren't coming and just strung people along.

What good would that do for them? It's not like they keep the money. Outside of it being bad business practice to sell what you don't yet have, it's not like they are keeping any of the money.


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az3579
07-19-2015, 02:48 PM
This is not ECS' fault. Really don't understand why everyone is jumping on the "hate ECS" bandwagon.

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cakM3
07-19-2015, 05:31 PM
This is not ECS' fault. Really don't understand why everyone is jumping on the "hate ECS" bandwagon.

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+1

wsmeyer
07-19-2015, 06:28 PM
I'll bet quite a few dealers complained to BMWNA that ECS bought them all and they decided to distribute them to dealers.

Vas
07-19-2015, 06:39 PM
Ecstuning just screwed everyone over.

johnrando
07-19-2015, 07:07 PM
In my mind they didn't if they were promised the units and BMW didn't come through.

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BADCLOWN
07-20-2015, 09:21 AM
can't point the finger directly at anyone but its either one of two things: BMW screwed ECS over or ECS screwed over customers.

Vas
07-20-2015, 10:21 AM
If anybody wants one and maybe can haggle the dealership, you can call Sale BMW in Kinston, NC at (888) 639-9082

However be warned. The parts department and the manager are pretty rude to deal with. And their logic does not make sense.

BADCLOWN
07-20-2015, 11:16 AM
They have the display unit correct? They have absolutely no reason not to sell and their excuses are dumb

Vas
07-20-2015, 11:22 AM
They have the display unit correct? They have absolutely no reason not to sell and their excuses are dumb

Yup. This is the dealership with the display unit. He said it is to showcase the BMW performance exhaust line and they won't sell it.

Edit:

And currently it is in the back storage closet because they are doing construction to their parts department.

Simmsled
07-20-2015, 11:38 AM
I went through this with a dealer...
One said that because it worked well with their display, that they wouldn't have to buy another and have more $ tied up.

chacend
07-20-2015, 12:52 PM
This is not ECS' fault. Really don't understand why everyone is jumping on the "hate ECS" bandwagon.

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I don't "hate" ECS. I just don't think they are being forthcoming in this case. This has been going on for multiple months and I'm not buying that BMW strung them along, just not enough money involved for BMW to give a sh*t one way or another at the price they were selling them for. However, at ECS markup it was a much bigger deal for them. Doesn't affect me anyway as I have one of these sitting in a box in my garage.

az3579
07-20-2015, 04:16 PM
I don't "hate" ECS. I just don't think they are being forthcoming in this case. This has been going on for multiple months and I'm not buying that BMW strung them along, just not enough money involved for BMW to give a sh*t one way or another at the price they were selling them for. However, at ECS markup it was a much bigger deal for them. Doesn't affect me anyway as I have one of these sitting in a box in my garage.

Okay, so since a few people are jumping on the "I'm not buying it" bandwagon, this needs to be discussed further.

What evidence do you have that ECS is "stringing people along"? As any competent lawyer would ask, what motive would they have for doing such a thing? This hurts them, not being able to get product that they have sold. Do you think they want to have to refund all of those items folks purchased just because their supplier decided to tell them to screw themselves? Why would ECS want to piss off a bunch of customers if it's within their control?

This is exactly a case of " I'm think this person is lying without having any facts to base it on". It's not fair to them and hurts their reputation posting something like this.

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chacend
07-21-2015, 03:46 AM
Okay, so since a few people are jumping on the "I'm not buying it" bandwagon, this needs to be discussed further.

What evidence do you have that ECS is "stringing people along"? As any competent lawyer would ask, what motive would they have for doing such a thing? This hurts them, not being able to get product that they have sold. Do you think they want to have to refund all of those items folks purchased just because their supplier decided to tell them to screw themselves? Why would ECS want to piss off a bunch of customers if it's within their control?

This is exactly a case of " I'm think this person is lying without having any facts to base it on". It's not fair to them and hurts their reputation posting something like this.

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BP,

First, at no point did I say I was expressing fact, just opinion. Second, if the dealers that had placed orders for folks knew in short order that their orders weren't getting filled and notified customers quickly, what took ECS so long? I don't know the answer and I doubt you do either, but it does raise suspicion.

As to damaging their reputation, I doubt my comment will mean much and most folks will continue to buy if the price is right. What is more damaging to their reputation was that they apparently attempted to scoop up all of these exhausts and apparently caused multiple individual (lower priced at dealers) orders to get cancelled. As a free market guy, I won't dispute that that move was just business, however it was horrible from a PR perspective and had very little upside considering the limited one time profit. I say "apparently" in all this, because yes you are correct that we are light on facts, but facts are not always what matter in business, appearances are.

Hornung418
07-21-2015, 12:54 PM
BP,

First, at no point did I say I was expressing fact, just opinion. Second, if the dealers that had placed orders for folks knew in short order that their orders weren't getting filled and notified customers quickly, what took ECS so long? I don't know the answer and I doubt you do either, but it does raise suspicion.

As to damaging their reputation, I doubt my comment will mean much and most folks will continue to buy if the price is right. What is more damaging to their reputation was that they apparently attempted to scoop up all of these exhausts and apparently caused multiple individual (lower priced at dealers) orders to get cancelled. As a free market guy, I won't dispute that that move was just business, however it was horrible from a PR perspective and had very little upside considering the limited one time profit. I say "apparently" in all this, because yes you are correct that we are light on facts, but facts are not always what matter in business, appearances are.
+46

I use ECS for their product catalog and then cross reference at a reputable dealer.

wsmeyer
07-21-2015, 01:12 PM
+46

I use ECS for their product catalog and then cross reference at a reputable dealer.

+1e^46 x5

danewilson77
07-21-2015, 01:51 PM
+46

I use ECS for their product catalog and then cross reference at a reputable dealer.
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