PDA

View Full Version : Gheybe's Cinnamon Interior Project on BMW E46 330



Gheybe
11-06-2010, 10:31 PM
Hello guys,

Even though I don't have a ZHP, I figured I'd contribute to this site as much as I do on E46F.

This thread is also over there, but I guess I'll post it here also.

With my last project, CF trim, finally being done, I figured it was time to move on to another project.
I was wondering what my car would look like with cinnamon interior in it, but couldn't find a picture.

I guess I'll just have to find out. Today I'm purchasing all of the necessary supplies for the DIY, as per Neil's thread.

If anyone has a picture of a silver grey vert with cinnamon interior, it would make things easier.

I'll try to keep this as up to date as my last one.

Thanks for looking.

This is for my personal use:

Oh hai, just some lessons learned and words of advice, don't take these words as truth. Just my experience and tips I think you should use :nyah:

Dyeing tips:

Don't buy foam brushes, buy artist acrylic brushes: 3/4" - 1"

When dyeing, do NOT stop in the middle of a panel, make it to the closest seam and stop. If you get bubbles or heavy spots of dye, blow on them to even them out.

You might think that you will get brush marks, swirls, etc when the dye dries, but just be patient, they will even out. The WORST mistake I made while dyeing was trying and touching up half dried dye, it scuffed up and make a mark when dry. If you mess up, DONT touch it. Let it dry and wetsand out w/ 1500 grit, then apply another coat. It will even out

When dyeing, you will notice that the dye separates really quickly. No lie, you will get some dye on your brush and paint a bit, then go back to get more dye on the brush and the dye will have already separated. You need to keep stirring the dye before you go and paint with it.

Take the seats apart. I don't know how Alec did the dye job with his seat together. I did my drivers seat like that and I realized that the seams where the seat cushion met the back were going to be messed up. So I took them apart and they were horrible, the dye had made the leather stick to itself and I had to rip it apart, breaking the dye. I had to go back and wetsand and redo the portion of the drivers seat that was messed up. I did my passengers seat the proper way, taking it apart and dyeing the panels separately.


Painting tips:

Duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint is a great product, no lie. But the spray can is a pos. It doesn't really have a good nozzle so if you are spraying downward, the spray paint coming out will splatter and make your piece look horrible. This is when I realized that if I wanted good work, I was going to have to use my hands. I just held my piece up and spun it around whichever way I needed to spray and painted while it was in my hand. I got spray paint on my hand and arm, no biggie though. Just a tip
Make sure you are painting in the right conditions, this is very important. It was damn cold outside so I set up a spray booth inside my house to paint, it worked out very well.


Procedures

Door panels:

Take apart door panels, don't be a bum and keep them together and mask off portions with newspaper. If you take them apart, you will get a better result in the end, I promise.

Leatherique leather inserts, let rejuvenator soak in for 24 hours. When applying the rejuvenator, use about 2-4 ounces per panel and massage it into the panel with your hands. Like really, think of it as you giving a piece of leather a massage, it's weird. Then do all the necessary pristine clean and dyeing procedures

Clean vinyl door panels - scrub with green works and sponge, then scrub with warm water and wipe dry. Let them sit for a while because the vinyl will still be damp feeling after you wipe it. Then spray with duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint. Remember! light coats

Take apart arm rests - leatherique leather pads, prep and sand bottom portion for duplicolor vinyl and fabric paint.

Put door panels back together using screws and washers


Seats:

Scrub clean with wet rag

Apply leatherique rejuvenator and scrub into the leather, let sit for 24 hours minimum, I let all of my pieces soak for 48 hours.

Spray pristine clean onto leather using spray bottle and let sit for 20 mins, scrub with toothbrush and wipe off with terry towel. Wait 2 hours.

Put leatherique prepping agent into glass bowl and get 1000 grit sandpaper, dip sandpaper into bowl and start to wetsand leather seats. Wait 6 hours minimum

Ready for dye. For my black leatherette seats, I found that 5 coats was necessary to make it look absolutely perfect. 4 coats and you could still see some black through the dye. For the tan leather, 4 coats was plenty.

[insert dyeing procedure here]


Headliner, rear deck and pillars:

Clean with wet rag
Soak them with rit dye, no lie, soak them. Don't hesitate to use as much dye as the panel will take without dripping


Door seals:

Clean with wet rag
Apply rit dye using bowl and sponge brush, same as headliner pieces


Plastic pieces:

Spray down with green works and scrub as much dirt off as possible.
Wipe pieces with a wet rag and sand with 600 grit sandpaper.
Place in hot water bath to get rid of all the powder, let sit until completely dry
Lots and lots of light coats of spray paint, waiting about 10 minutes between coats.

Gheybe
11-06-2010, 10:31 PM
Here is my order:
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Picture4.png?1288685392

Gheybe
11-06-2010, 10:32 PM
Update on the schedule.

The leatherique products should be here on the 8th which means all my prep work needs to be done by then.

Thursday: wash car and clean interior with rag and and water, and vaccuum interior. Remove door panels and drill them. (done)
Friday: remove rear seats and disassemble rear headrests. (partially done)
Saturday: remove front seats and disassemble seatbelt mount and headrest. Also disassemble top and bottom of the seats. (partially done)
Sunday: assess the situation and purchase needed tools or supplies. Wait.

Gheybe
11-06-2010, 10:34 PM
So after Mike helped me out, we got this stuff done. Everything is out but the rear headrests and the driver's seat.

Here are some photos:
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0966.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0967.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0968.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0970.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0971.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0972.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0974.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0975.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0976.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0963.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0964.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0965.jpg

Gheybe
11-06-2010, 10:35 PM
Daytime pics of before cleaning and everything.
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0982.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_0983.jpg

mimalmo
11-07-2010, 05:45 AM
A local E46 owner did this and it turned out great.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=706905

Marcus-SanDiego
11-07-2010, 06:05 AM
Mike washed my cars yesterday. He told me about your project, Gabe. Good luck with the outcome.

danewilson77
11-07-2010, 01:18 PM
Can't wait for pics of the final build. Be epic bro...

Gheybe
11-07-2010, 10:01 PM
Thanks guys. Today I got around to buying some brushes, along with some other supplies. Tomorrow I gotta go to the DMV and solve some stuff, and right after it I'm stopping at Home Depot, which is next door, do get a spray gun. The brushes are for applying the cleaners and other things. The spray gun + compressor is for the actual cinnamon color.

Marcus-SanDiego
11-07-2010, 10:16 PM
I should go to the DMV tomorrow. My personalized plate is in: 05 ZHP

Looking forward to seeing the finished product, Gabe.

Gheybe
11-07-2010, 10:29 PM
Go to the one in Clairemont at opening time and you'll see the wife and I.

Me too buddy, me too. Just can't wait to be done with this.

Marcus-SanDiego
11-07-2010, 10:37 PM
My plates are at the Poway office.

Gheybe
11-07-2010, 10:39 PM
:(

Tell them who you are and have them send it over there.


"Hmm excuse me man, I'm the head boss of the ZHPmafia."

"The what?"

"The ZHP... mafia."

"What the hell is that?"

"HOW DARE YOU."

Marcus-SanDiego
11-07-2010, 10:40 PM
Haha. What a crack up.

Thanks for the laugh.

danewilson77
11-08-2010, 03:48 AM
Yeah....they don't wanna mess with his "Good Fella's"

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Funny/films-goodfellas.jpg

Gheybe
11-09-2010, 03:05 PM
:eeps: I lied about not being able to tease.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs928.snc4/74124_451082751721_550526721_5940946_5834375_n.jpg


:eeps:

danewilson77
11-09-2010, 04:09 PM
Damn u!!!!!

Gheybe
11-09-2010, 04:48 PM
:rofl:

I'll post more pictures later tonight.

Marcus-SanDiego
11-09-2010, 04:57 PM
Gabe, you going to the meet tomorrow night? I'm hoping to see Larry's E90 M3 since it had all of the carbon fiber work done to it. Not sure if Larry is going yet. I am, though.

Edited to change E92 to E90.

Gheybe
11-09-2010, 07:15 PM
Gabe, you going to the meet tomorrow night? I'm hoping to see Larry's E92 M3 since it had all of the carbon fiber work done to it. Not sure if Larry is going yet. I am, though.

The E90 looked awesome in the pics. I saw Larry at UPS last week. He told me about the car and he seemed very excited. His DD by the way is so badass. X5 4.4is in I think estoril blue.

And about tomorrow, I'll roll by at 9:30.. Class :facepalm:

Marcus-SanDiego
11-09-2010, 07:28 PM
Cool. Might see you there.

Gheybe
11-14-2010, 12:09 AM
UPDATE.

Prepping is done and dyeing starts tomorrow.

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1055.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1056.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1045.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1046.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1047.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1048.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1049.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1050.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1051.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1052.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1053.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1054.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1028.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1029.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1030.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1031.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1032.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1033.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1034.jpg
http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/gmilori/Cinnamon%20Interior/IMG_1035.jpg

danewilson77
11-14-2010, 11:13 AM
Can't wait....great update. As someone who does all their own work....I truly appreciate this effort. Well done..

Mtnman
12-02-2010, 01:20 PM
THis is a total tease! Where are you in the process? Any final or close to final pics yet? I want to do the same thing to mine.

Marcus-SanDiego
12-02-2010, 02:13 PM
I know he's still working on it. I see his facebook comments about how cold it's been lately -- and how he hasn't been working on this every night. Additionally, he is in the middle of final exams, which has also slowed progress down a bit.

He'll likely chime in, though.

jjcools
12-02-2010, 02:20 PM
How on earth are you going to get that all back together properly? That is a lot of parts sitting around.
:)

Ryans323i
03-26-2011, 08:04 AM
How's this project coming along? Is there a thread on the final product? I'm dying here!

Marcus-SanDiego
03-26-2011, 08:39 AM
Good question. Gabe, how did this project turn out?

Gheybe
03-26-2011, 10:10 AM
It turned out with 2M offering to spray my leather the proper way.


Im hoping I will be done by April 12th.

This project was a terrible decision. Not in the starting of it or the execution. I've done every step meticulously and took my time making sure it was done right. I prepped a good amount more than I needed to but I think it was worth it. I dis however skip a step since my leather was not damaged.

Now back to the bad decision part: timing.
I couldn't have picked a worst time for me to start this. Between school and work, I should have waited till I had time off of both do this, not jump into another rushed compulsive modding experience like a few others. It has become a frustrating aspect of my car experience and ultimately it has made me feel useless and unaccomplished.

The final plan is to do a dual tone cinnamon, eighths seats staying the way they are. It makes sense to me to do this because I plan on getting seats for my car, and also a roll bar for my harnesses. I'm okay with this an think it will still look very good.

Again, I'm sorry to disappoint, but I feel my future is a bit more important than my leather, and not only do I do things for myself before it, I also work on other people's cars. Between doing CF wrapping for other people, photoshoots, work, school, relationships, among other things any other normal person has to worry about, this leather is also on my mind. Rest assured I'll finish it in due time and I will deliver. Like I always do.

Marcus-SanDiego
03-26-2011, 10:39 AM
Gabe, no worries. Keep your priorities straight. Good man.

danewilson77
03-26-2011, 10:41 AM
It turned out with 2M offering to spray my leather the proper way.


Im hoping I will be done by April 12th.

This project was a terrible decision. Not in the starting of it or the execution. I've done every step meticulously and took my time making sure it was done right. I prepped a good amount more than I needed to but I think it was worth it. I dis however skip a step since my leather was not damaged.

Now back to the bad decision part: timing.
I couldn't have picked a worst time for me to start this. Between school and work, I should have waited till I had time off of both do this, not jump into another rushed compulsive modding experience like a few others. It has become a frustrating aspect of my car experience and ultimately it has made me feel useless and unaccomplished.

The final plan is to do a dual tone cinnamon, eighths seats staying the way they are. It makes sense to me to do this because I plan on getting seats for my car, and also a roll bar for my harnesses. I'm okay with this an think it will still look very good.

Again, I'm sorry to disappoint, but I feel my future is a bit more important than my leather, and not only do I do things for myself before it, I also work on other people's cars. Between doing CF wrapping for other people, photoshoots, work, school, relationships, among other things any other normal person has to worry about, this leather is also on my mind. Rest assured I'll finish it in due time and I will deliver. Like I always do.

How do you "Spray" leather? You mean with dye?

Be cool, stay in school.

Mike V
03-26-2011, 12:20 PM
How's this project coming along? Is there a thread on the final product? I'm dying here!

I see what you did there. :cool

Gheybe
03-26-2011, 09:47 PM
Well the dye can be applied with a spray gun, and when done so, it turns out better than with a brush. It also ensures even coating.

danewilson77
03-27-2011, 07:46 AM
Copy

Droid! Srs Legitness!

2M Auto Body
03-27-2011, 07:56 AM
Gabe...come by this week! Any day, lets do this!

Gheybe
03-27-2011, 08:04 AM
I need your number!!! Shoot me a PM with it. We'll plan on a day and I'll come by

Ryans323i
03-27-2011, 08:19 AM
I see what you did there. :cool

I know, I'm dork. :0)


I can definitely understand your story OP. I wish you the best, and don't let your education take a back seat. When this is finally done I'll be sure to drool all over it. I love cinnamonnnnnn!

pyreguy
03-29-2011, 01:04 PM
I don't think drool is the best thing on leather.... :biggrin

Sent using alien technology and Forum Runner