Unicorn Hunting... Again

[JupiterBMW]

Well, as most of you know, I sold my ZHP back in September and my wife and I have been a one car family since then. As much as only having the X5 is ok, its not the ideal situation. While it does scratch both the performance itch as well as the utility itch, I really need a 2nd car to own. And after much thought, I realized I'd never be content until my ideal car is in the driveway. So, the search is on! Also, as most of you know, I go out to sea for long periods, so its hard for me to watch the market and hunt for the perfect car. I'd love to enlist the help of my fellow Mafia folk, and when the time comes, I'll probably ask for some assistance with inspection and PPI if the car is not local to me.

That being said... The Details... I've listed packages and then individual options to denote if the car has that "package"... Basically, how to verify in pics if the car is equipped as such.

Absolute Non-negotiable MUST Have:
2011 E90 M3 Sedan
DCT Transmission
Premium Package (Comfort Access)
Cold Weather Package (Fold Down Rear Seats)
iDrive System (Navigation)

REALLY Want to Have: ...these items might as well be in the above list :biggrin
Competition Package (Style 359M wheels as shown)
Technology Package (EDC, M Drive)
Moonroof

Unicorn Status ...all of the above plus...
Silverstone Metallic/Silverstone leather
Carbon Leather Trim
Rear Sunshade/Rear Door roller sunvisors
Individual Audio System (silver speaker trim rings)

Color & Interior Choices, in order of Preference
Silverstone Metallic
Lemans Blue Metallic -or- Interlagos Blue Metallic
Alpine White
Melbourne Red Metallic

Palladium Silver
Sonoma Beige
Black/Fox Red/Black -or- Black/Palladium/Black
Black
Fox Red

Other Details
-Looking in the $45-50k range, less is more. :)
-The lower the mileage the better, but I'm hunting in the 30K range.
-Still has some warranty left, and bonus points for one with CPO status.
-Ideally it should be stock, no mods.

I've seen basically everything that is currently online, but please post any cars you think may fit what I want. Also, any wild card finds should be posted too. Please keep this thread on topic as I'm heading back out to sea this weekend and my internet access will be limited. I'll be getting email updates and will check in as often as I can. Thank you so much to the best group of car enthusiasts around. :thumbsup :roundel :wub

Images of a unicorn color scheme for reference (because we all love pics):

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k166/jdinisio/unicorn1.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/jdinisio/media/unicorn1.jpg.html)

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k166/jdinisio/unicorn4.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/jdinisio/media/unicorn4.jpg.html)

[danewilson77]

Happy hunting. Good luck Joop.

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[E_Rak]

From the Devils themselves :)

http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?id=5024&form_display=51

[JupiterBMW]

I knoooooow!!! If that car was silverstone, I'd already own it. It's literally perfect in every other way. They actually just sold a silverstone/black car that was Dinan S2 certified... I had spoken to them about it. :eeps


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[E_Rak]

It does tick all the boxes! Just the colors aren't quite ideal

[JupiterBMW]

Yeah... And to be honest, I like the red/beige more than I would an alpine white/black. So, I've kept eyes on this car for awhile now.


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[johnrando]

Happy hunting. Good luck Joop.

The friendliest forum on the planet.

+1

[ELCID86]

Do it.

[az3579]

Just out of curiosity, is there something the 2011 has that the 2010 doesn't? Including 2010 might expand your search possibilities.


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[JupiterBMW]

Just out of curiosity, is there something the 2011 has that the 2010 doesn't? Including 2010 might expand your search possibilities.


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Well the competition package is only available in 2011 for the sedan. Also, at this point, there's no chance of getting a 2010 with any warranty left. If a perfect car came up that was a 2010, I would consider. To be honest, I really just want the newest car possible.


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[slater]

From the Devils themselves :)

http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?id=5024&form_display=51

dude....................... :drool

that's AWESOME.



Yeah... And to be honest, I like the red/beige more than I would an alpine white/black. So, I've kept eyes on this car for awhile now.

DO IT! the gray/silver leather looks blah. :)


Do it.

^ what he said!

peter

[JupiterBMW]

The search is still young. Going to hold off for now.


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[BCS_ZHP]

Price is too high for you but...

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4853155654.html

[JupiterBMW]

Price is too high for you but...

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4853155654.html

He's priced too high for everyone! No competition package, not even the 19" Style 220M wheels, no EDC, and the boring black interior with base trim (brushed aluminum), he's definitely high, about $5k or so.

Thanks for posting though, it is a nice car.


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[BCS_ZHP]

Keep the wife in the x5M, and get yourself a garage queen toy, like maybe

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/4824756953.html

[JupiterBMW]

Lol, the wife will stay in the X5, but this will be my garage queen. Not interested in an E46 anymore, they're getting older and age will show. Besides, many are saying the S54 and S65 are two of the best engines BMW ever produced, and I'm just fine with that. I think an S65 will go nicely with the S63. [emoji16]

And to be honest, the DCT was initially for her, but I want it too. Call it a sissy transmission, I'm ok with that. It still shifts faster than any clutched car.

If I had to deviate from my unicorn, I'd get the same car with a manual transmission. But for now, that isn't an option.


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[NoVAphotog]

Well the competition package is only available in 2011 for the sedan. Also, at this point, there's no chance of getting a 2010 with any warranty left. If a perfect car came up that was a 2010, I would consider. To be honest, I really just want the newest car possible.


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Plus aren't there rod bearing issues with the pre-2011 S65's?

[JupiterBMW]

Not sure the exact years.... But I believe you are correct.


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[BCS_ZHP]

And absolutely has to have 4-doors? A guy I've bought 3 BMW from has a 2013 M3 silverstone 6MT cf roof cloth seats competition pkg coupe with about 3K miles on it, is going to sell it this Spring when his 2 year lease expires.

[JupiterBMW]

And absolutely has to have 4-doors? A guy I've bought 3 BMW from has a 2013 M3 silverstone 6MT cf roof cloth seats competition pkg coupe with about 3K miles on it, is going to sell it this Spring when his 2 year lease expires.

Bruce you're killing me man!!

Deal breakers:
-coupe
-no sunroof
-cloth (seriously, who buys a $75k car with cloth?!?!)


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[NoVAphotog]

Not sure the exact years.... But I believe you are correct.


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Yeah, my friend is looking at them and that M235i now...heard a lot of horror stories with BMW being real flaky despite the rising number of incidents. Met a guy with an '09 out at RRT who was in to have the engine pulled and $10k leave his wallet...

I LOVE the S65 and 4 door E9x M3 so I'm in full support of the hunt for the unicorn and definitely agree finding one with the warranty remaining will be key. Problem is...the usual "be patient" mantra of the unicorn search is against you in this case.

[JupiterBMW]

Yeah it is. Although, I'm finding some with CPO coverage, so that helps.


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[JupiterBMW]

This is actually the PERFECT car, but it is sold already. And I spoke to a guy that is local in the area, he said this Park Place dealer is full of douchey type people... I would've loved to get on this one!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/4845315523.html

[Vas]

Deal breakers:
-coupe
-no sunroof
-cloth (seriously, who buys a $75k car with cloth?!?!)




Track junkies that's who. Perfect car for that since its lighter and no slippery leather.

Good luck finding your car.

[JupiterBMW]

Track junkies that's who. Perfect car for that since its lighter and no slippery leather.

Good luck finding your car.

Yeah I hear ya... Unfortunately, I am not a track junkie, and I really don't want a track junkie owned car.

[alexandre]

Cloth is also more comfy in both cold and hot environments. Love my alcantara in the weather up here!

[rguti153]

Wait I just saw one in houston . let me look

[rguti153]

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4845375465.html
To many miles though

[JupiterBMW]

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4845375465.html
To many miles though

Hmm, not a bad car, and he has CPO on it, hence the 100K mile warranty. I'm really not looking for Space Grey though... Nice find though, thanks for posting.

[rguti153]

All right good luck

[ryankokesh]

Bruce you're killing me man!!

Deal breakers:
-coupe
-no sunroof
-cloth (seriously, who buys a $75k car with cloth?!?!)


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just gonna leave this here... :)

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/McLaren-650S-interior1.jpg

[JupiterBMW]

All right good luck

Thanks buddy... I know I'm looking for the smallest needle in a huge ass haystack, but I appreciate any and all leads...




On a side note, this could possibly be the last E90 M3 sedan ever produced. Production date is 10/28/2011. Production was ended in 10/2011. Not only that, but this car is ideal. Not the desired colors, but I would be completely happy with this combo, and the black/red/black interior is fairly rare. Something I could most likely trade out if I chose...

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/623953681/overview/

[ryankokesh]

That thing is freaking gorgeous.

[JupiterBMW]

That thing is freaking gorgeous.

Why yes it is, and apparently it is the end of my search for now. I've been blacklisted from the BMW VIN decoder for flooding. :rofl

Maybe tomorrow. :shrug

[ryankokesh]

:rofl

https://www.hidemyass.com ?

[az3579]

Thanks buddy... I know I'm looking for the smallest needle in a huge ass haystack, but I appreciate any and all leads...




On a side note, this could possibly be the last E90 M3 sedan ever produced. Production date is 10/28/2011. Production was ended in 10/2011. Not only that, but this car is ideal. Not the desired colors, but I would be completely happy with this combo, and the black/red/black interior is fairly rare. Something I could most likely trade out if I chose...

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/623953681/overview/

That car is pretty unique. The interior was most definitely treated by BMW Individual; that isn't a standard interior. It would have been nice if it was the standard Coral Red though!

Overall the car looks like a winner to me.

[jiggz]

Good luck with the search Jon…I think that part is half the fun myself. I'm always looking for fun and will let you know if I see something that fits your search criteria. E90 M3…a lot of car considering you're gone half the year! ;)

Let me know if you open up your search to 2009/2010's (I know you don't want an '08/pre-LCI). The ZCP wheels can be purchased new or used quite easily, the 10mm lower stance is really not noticeable, and you said yourself you're not a track guy so the enhanced EDC probably wouldn't mean much to you? I actually think the 220's look better on the sedan…I know many prefer the 359s though.

You heading to the west coast again?

[jiggz]

That car is pretty unique. The interior was most definitely treated by BMW Individual; that isn't a standard interior. It would have been nice if it was the standard Coral Red though!

Overall the car looks like a winner to me.

Actually, that interior was a standard offering starting in 2011 for all E9x M3's. They also had a black/palladium silver two-tone combo that looks really sharp too. These interiors are rare on the sedan as 2011 was the 1st year with these interiors and the last year for the E90 M3 sedan.

[az3579]

Actually, that interior was a standard offering starting in 2011 for all E9x M3's. They also had a black/palladium silver two-tone combo that looks really sharp too. These interiors are rare on the sedan as 2011 was the 1st year with these interiors and the last year for the E90 M3 sedan.

With the armrests like that? I've seen some "similar" interiors, but the armrests definitely weren't like that... are you sure this isn't customized just a little bit?
I know a guy who has a similar interior, the only difference is the armrests between the two. His was black.

[jiggz]

With the armrests like that? I've seen some "similar" interiors, but the armrests definitely weren't like that... are you sure this isn't customized just a little bit?
I know a guy who has a similar interior, the only difference is the armrests between the two. His was black.

Positive. I built many E90 M3's on BMWUSA over the years. It was as $300 option. If you search around for used 2011 M3's you'd find some others with this interior.

Here's a window sticker for a 2011 sedan with this interior - 'Fox Red/Black/Black'
http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/52031087.jpg

2011 sedan with the 'Palladium/Black/Black' interior (has palladium silver armrests too) -
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/BMW/2011-BMW-M3+Sedan-0cdc851a0a0d04d310eff340798c57a3.htm?geoZip=98028

Different 2011 sedan than the one Jon linked, also with the 'Fox Red/Black/Black' interior (fox red armrests too) -
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/BMW/2011-BMW-M3+Sedan-2061d0270a0a00e04531bbc120259f91.htm?geoZip=98028

Sorry Jon….back on topic!

[ELCID86]

On a side note, this could possibly be the last E90 M3 sedan ever produced. Production date is 10/28/2011. Production was ended in 10/2011. Not only that, but this car is ideal. Not the desired colors, but I would be completely happy with this combo, and the black/red/black interior is fairly rare. Something I could most likely trade out if I chose...

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/623953681/overview/
I like that one!

[danewilson77]

I like that one!
It's white though.

"No flamesuit required"

[ELCID86]

It's white though.

"No flamesuit required"
I can't see Jon in anything else.

[danewilson77]

Hehe...

"No flamesuit required"

[cakM3]

Good luck on your hunt Jon! :thumbsup Can't wait to see what you come up with :)

[JupiterBMW]

Good luck with the search Jon…I think that part is half the fun myself. I'm always looking for fun and will let you know if I see something that fits your search criteria. E90 M3…a lot of car considering you're gone half the year! ;)

Let me know if you open up your search to 2009/2010's (I know you don't want an '08/pre-LCI). The ZCP wheels can be purchased new or used quite easily, the 10mm lower stance is really not noticeable, and you said yourself you're not a track guy so the enhanced EDC probably wouldn't mean much to you? I actually think the 220's look better on the sedan…I know many prefer the 359s though.

You heading to the west coast again?
Thanks Jeff, and yes, the hunt is half the fun. Sadly, if I do acquire the unicorn I want, I'll be DONE hunting BMWs. Having an X5///M and this ///M3 in the garage will be enough, a family hauler and a toy. Technically they both work for both duties. :biggrin And yes, the Competition package is pretty much wasted on my driving style, but I want it for the added bit of exclusivity.

As for work, yes, flying into Seattle on Sunday, will be landing at midnight or so. You down to hang out?? :rofl


Actually, that interior was a standard offering starting in 2011 for all E9x M3's. They also had a black/palladium silver two-tone combo that looks really sharp too. These interiors are rare on the sedan as 2011 was the 1st year with these interiors and the last year for the E90 M3 sedan.


Positive. I built many E90 M3's on BMWUSA over the years. It was as $300 option. If you search around for used 2011 M3's you'd find some others with this interior.

Here's a window sticker for a 2011 sedan with this interior - 'Fox Red/Black/Black'
http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/52031087.jpg

2011 sedan with the 'Palladium/Black/Black' interior (has palladium silver armrests too) -
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/BMW/2011-BMW-M3+Sedan-0cdc851a0a0d04d310eff340798c57a3.htm?geoZip=98028

Different 2011 sedan than the one Jon linked, also with the 'Fox Red/Black/Black' interior (fox red armrests too) -
http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/BMW/2011-BMW-M3+Sedan-2061d0270a0a00e04531bbc120259f91.htm?geoZip=98028

Sorry Jon….back on topic!
No worries, you are 100% correct! Again, I love the rarity of the two tone interiors, but I feel like its a bit too broken up. In a perfect world, the full Palladium silver seats are better for me, but I would be just fine with either of these two tone options. I do think the Black/Red clashes with Silverstone though, so I'd prefer that on a white or darker blue car... Thanks again for keeping the info straight!!


I can't see Jon in anything else.
Have you seen the current sig photo?!? :biggrin


Good luck on your hunt Jon! :thumbsup Can't wait to see what you come up with :)
Thanks Charlie. Excited to find "the one"!! :wub

[johnrando]

My guess is you'll find something else to hunt after you find this one. :) Good luck!

[JupiterBMW]

My guess is you'll find something else to hunt after you find this one. :) Good luck!

I only have 2 garage spaces, so there won't be any real searching. Maybe I'll start buying/flipping cars afterward for a hobby, and to allow me to hunt. [emoji16]


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[ELCID86]

Have you seen the current sig photo?!? :biggrin




Yes, and I see Mrs. Joop :biggrin

[JupiterBMW]

True.


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[jiggz]

If it were a year ago and you were looking, I'm thinking this would have been your 1st choice, no?

No Convenience Package, but it has Competition, Premium, Heated Front Seats & Folding rear (better than the full CWP IMO as you eliminate the headlight washers), DCT, Enhanced Sound, Moonroof, Carbon Leather trim, etc.

http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/BMW/2011-BMW-M3-a21ff1f00a0a000239239bb0e8a9e58e.htm?geoZip=98028


Edit - your original post shows Comfort Access as part of the Premium Package but it's actually part of the Convenience Package. So this above car doesn't have it (checked the decoder too). AW/Bamboo - perfect FL car! :)

[JupiterBMW]

If it were a year ago and you were looking, I'm thinking this would have been your 1st choice, no?

No Convenience Package, but it has Competition, Premium, Heated Front Seats & Folding rear (better than the full CWP IMO as you eliminate the headlight washers), DCT, Enhanced Sound, Moonroof, Carbon Leather trim, etc.

http://cpo.bmwusa.com/used/BMW/2011-BMW-M3-a21ff1f00a0a000239239bb0e8a9e58e.htm?geoZip=98028


Edit - your original post shows Comfort Access as part of the Premium Package but it's actually part of the Convenience Package. So this above car doesn't have it (checked the decoder too). AW/Bamboo - perfect FL car! :)

Yeah, I still love the Alpine White, its a beautiful color, but, the lack of metallic just leaves me wanting more. I love the metallic, gives the cars a deep gloss when freshly detailed.

As for Comfort Access, I just checked the 2011 Order Guide sheet and it actually shows Comfort Access as part of the Tech Package... So weird. There are also specs for Premium Package 2 and 3, something I still can't decipher. From what I can tell, ZP2 includes the 14-way adjustable seats, but not sure what ZP3 includes over that... All I know is that I want bells and whistles. And lack of comfort access is a deal breaker. I do not want to have to fumble for the fob getting into/out of the car, nor do I want to have to pull it out and stick it in the dash.

[slater]

I only have 2 garage spaces, so there won't be any real searching. Maybe I'll start buying/flipping cars afterward for a hobby, and to allow me to hunt. [emoji16]

you know, jon.... i have long wanted to do this, as a hobby. and i've tried, several times - the problem is, i generally end up having a friend that says "hey, i really want to buy that car!" and i end up giving them a deal that cuts into the 'profit' that i promised my wife i would try to make on it! not ideal. that and i really don't have time to raise a family, work full-time, take care of the house and car(s), RESTORE the house, AND flip cars! i wish i did.

however, if you have the time... i could see it being a hugely fun experience - you get to always be driving something new and different. that's what really attracted me to it - that and the fun of 'the hunt'...

peter

[JupiterBMW]

Thanks for the insight Peter. TO be honest, I have the time when I'm home, but I also try to cram my entire social/family/home life into half the time, so I actually get quite busy while I'm home on vacation. Perhaps I'll have to rethink that idea. Either way, if I had the M3 in the garage, I'd finally have the car I've lusted over for quite a few years now...

[jiggz]

As for Comfort Access, I just checked the 2011 Order Guide sheet and it actually shows Comfort Access as part of the Tech Package... So weird. There are also specs for Premium Package 2 and 3, something I still can't decipher. From what I can tell, ZP2 includes the 14-way adjustable seats, but not sure what ZP3 includes over that...

Right, it's part of both Tech and Convenience. At least that's what all the vehicles show on BMWUSA.com for sale. There's actually several options that come with more than one package. Hmmm, actually this one has the Technology Package it appears, but I still didn't see Comfort Access on the decoder, unless I missed it. Either way it doesn't matter...no metallic paint!

And what happened with the SS/SS one in Bellevue WA - it sold before you noticed it listed?

[JupiterBMW]

Right, it's part of both Tech and Convenience. At least that's what all the vehicles show on BMWUSA.com for sale. There's actually several options that come with more than one package. Hmmm, actually this one has the Technology Package it appears, but I still didn't see Comfort Access on the decoder, unless I missed it. Either way it doesn't matter...no metallic paint!

And what happened with the SS/SS one in Bellevue WA - it sold before you noticed it listed?

Comfort access is 322 if my memory is correct. As for the SS/PS one, yeah it sold super fast apparently. It's still on Craigslist, but not the website inventory.


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[JupiterBMW]

Posted this on the E90 M3 forum, really hoping to find something. I have roughly 45 days on the ship this time, hoping to locate, negotiate, and PPI a car by the time I am ready to come home. Then I fly to the car and drive it home. Saves me the money of having to fly out to see a car. :biggrin

[jiggz]

That one in GA on BMWUSA is so close. Just has the wrong color interior (black) but otherwise meets all other criteria.

[JupiterBMW]

That one in GA on BMWUSA is so close. Just has the wrong color interior (black) but otherwise meets all other criteria.

Is that the one that only shows a standard photo?? VIN ending in like 811 or something?? I just ran that one and I agree, and I could be ok with all black, would be a complete twin to the x5 at that point. But I couldn't find it on the actual dealer website... Will call them Monday.


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[jiggz]

Is that the one that only shows a standard photo?? VIN ending in like 811 or something?? I just ran that one and I agree, and I could be ok with all black, would be a complete twin to the x5 at that point. But I couldn't find it on the actual dealer website... Will call them Monday.


Yes, that's the one. There's a link to the dealer website from the BWMUSA.com page (United BMW, Roswell GA), but I actually don't see it listed on the dealer website now that I look there. I don't know how often the BMWUSA site gets updated though - my X5 was still listed there for well over a week after I bought it.

Too many miles on this one (46K) below? Lemans over Palladium, ZCP, DCT, Technology, Premium, & Convenience (rare to find all 3), front heated seats & rear folding seats. Wow…not seeing a moonroof though on the decoder…very few sedans w/o a moonroof. Deal killer!

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98028&endYear=2011&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&interiorColorsSimple=SILVER&modelCode1=M3&showcaseOwnerId=82825&startYear=2011&makeCode1=BMW&searchRadius=0&mmt=%5BBMW%5BM3%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=385397980&Log=0

[TigerTater]

How did I miss thai thread! Jon I'm excited for you, as I too lust over the e90 m3 and it too is my unicorn. I plan to purchase one in a year or so after I'm out of school again. I'll keep my eyes peeled as I'm always browsing the listings online to get a feel for the market. Would you be able to post your info on the 2011 order sheet with options? I haven't seen that yet

[JupiterBMW]

Hah, thanks Tiger. It's fun hunting one, but I'm planning to line everything up while I'm on the ship so that I can travel to the car when I get off the ship and make the purchase!


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[JupiterBMW]

And yes, I'll link the order sheet with my desired options. [emoji106]


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[az3579]

I found a 2011 with most of what you want purely by accident today. A friend of mine works at CarMax in Hartford, CT and I went to go pick her up for lunch. I saw this in the lot.

It is unfortunate though that it has 50k miles and is Black/Black, but ticks most of the other boxes:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/29/982950462f7e3e8d79448e3771877fd5.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/29/71cec4f324e4faeb059b712f8a048c99.jpg

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/29/44193d8b55e159cbe5b4394f1f19c165.jpg


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[JupiterBMW]

Thanks for the link BP. Unfortunately, black and 6spd are complete deal breakers. I contacted a private seller about a car in Southern CA today, hopefully I'll hear from him and the car is still available.

In other news, up in Alaska now, internet is flaky and slow, so the search has slowed. I did log on this morning and I didn't see anything new on Autotrader. Grateful for any links that any of you might have! Thanks guys...

[az3579]

Shit. I completely forgot you wanted DCT, and I even checked the options requirements before posting. :facepalm


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[jiggz]

…I contacted a private seller about a car in Southern CA today, hopefully I'll hear from him and the car is still available…


If it's the car I'm thinking of…you considering a black interior now Jon? Otherwise must be a different car.

[JupiterBMW]

BP- No worries... Some of the people that are posting on other forums read all of my requirements and then try to offer complete opposite cars... :facepalm

Jeff- Yeah, its that privately owned car. Surprisingly, it has the least of my desired options, but its Silverstone, so I'm watching it. Of course, I haven't heard back from the owner yet, so who knows...

And yes, I rate each car based a few different things, including the number of desired options each one has. I have an Excel spreadsheet... :biggrin

17877

[TigerTater]

Hah. That's awesome. Jon what sites have you been using as far as research for packages etc. that were offered on the cars? What's your opinion on CPO cars? Worth they money?

[JupiterBMW]

Mostly just searching online. There's a lot of misguided info on what options are part of what package, so I typically just run the VIN through the decoder. CPO cars are fine, you pay an extra $2-3000 for them but it's ok when you use the warranty.


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[cakM3]

How's the search going Jon?


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[JupiterBMW]

Not wonderful... Mostly just busy. I contacted a private seller, no word back. I contacted a dealership last night, we'll see what they say.


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[TigerTater]

http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=549970&d=1310138661

Heres the link to the 2011 brochure/ordering guide...you may have it already! Thought it was interesting.

[JupiterBMW]

http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=549970&d=1310138661

Heres the link to the 2011 brochure/ordering guide...you may have it already! Thought it was interesting.

Hey Tiger, thanks for the link. However, I can't get it to open. Not sure if the link is bad, or if its just my internet being flaky. Can you perhaps screenshot the file and attach it? Or maybe email me the file direct? My email is jdinisio@gmail.com

I'm sure I probably have it (I have a LOT of documentation on the E90 M3) but I'd like to see what it is anyway! Thanks..

[ELCID86]

Link opens on my phone. Probably your connection.


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[JupiterBMW]

Well, no updates from me... My search has been very stagnant lately, haven't been able to turn anything up, and I'm doing nothing more than watch the decent cars get away. Granted, that's ok, only ONE of them was a car I actually wanted to pursue...

So, I'm still just searching and waiting. I'm starting to look more for a Lemans Blue Metallic car now as opposed to the Silverstone Metallic. Not sure why, but the blue is doing it for me. :biggrin

Anyway, hope all is well on the Mafia, miss everyone! Please link any cars you think might be of interest! Thanks! :thumbsup

[TigerTater]

Well, no updates from me... My search has been very stagnant lately, haven't been able to turn anything up, and I'm doing nothing more than watch the decent cars get away. Granted, that's ok, only ONE of them was a car I actually wanted to pursue...

So, I'm still just searching and waiting. I'm starting to look more for a Lemans Blue Metallic car now as opposed to the Silverstone Metallic. Not sure why, but the blue is doing it for me. :biggrin

Anyway, hope all is well on the Mafia, miss everyone! Please link any cars you think might be of interest! Thanks! :thumbsup

I'm with you. Just watching the adds float by. I initially thought I wanted alpine white, but the more I thought about it as well as what you said, the more I realized I need a metallic paint job! I myself like the interlagos or lemans blue. The silver stone is also gorgeous which your aware of. I thought more cars would come onto the market with the new models being released.

[3ZHP]

Hey Jon, I did a local M3 search and this is one array I came up with.

http://www.cars.com/for-sale/bmw/m3/tn/manchester/

[JupiterBMW]

Holy crap Guy, thanks for the link. One of the cars in your search appears to be a perfect car. Hoping for an email so I can run the VIN and go from there! Thanks for the post!

[3ZHP]

Keep me posted. If it's not to far, I may be able to check it out for you.


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[JupiterBMW]

Some more info, I checked into that car, and I believe it's the same as another one I've looked at already. I did also find a Lemans blue over bamboo beige car, one that I really like. That car is in Maryland, so hopefully I can take a look soon. Thanks for the offer.


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[TigerTater]

Just some motivation>>> http://europeanautosource.com/blog/supercharged-sedan-track-machine.html !

[JupiterBMW]

Holy shit... Take my money, take my house, take my kidneys...!!! Good thing it isn't for sale!!


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[TigerTater]

Holy shit... Take my money, take my house, take my kidneys...!!! Good thing it isn't for sale!!


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Yep. That interior is awesome. Car looks so good.

[TigerTater]

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/628431706/overview/ im sure you may have seen it. Not an outrageous price for the miles at 10K. At least compared to what others are asking for similar quality vehicles. I love the bamboo beige on blue. I think this is one of the color packages I would like to obtain one day. The two tone is awesome http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2011&zip=70734&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&mmt=%5BBMW%5BM3%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=SEDAN&modelCode1=M3&showcaseOwnerId=124036&makeCode1=BMW&startYear=2010&maxMileage=60000&searchRadius=0&listingId=394477262&Log=0

And then theres always the chance that you'll change your mind and drive this beautiful 6MT Silverstone: http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/622286040/overview/

[JupiterBMW]

Thanks for the link. I actually have talked to EAG about the two they have, the other was Melbourne red, liked it a lot. However, it sold, and the interlagoes blue one is just out of my budget. It is a fair price for the mileage and condition.

Your second link is for a car that is no longer available.

And the 3rd car is awesome, but the wife won't allow a manual because she can't drive it while I'm gone. So, must be DCT.


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[TigerTater]

Thanks for the link. I actually have talked to EAG about the two they have, the other was Melbourne red, liked it a lot. However, it sold, and the interlagoes blue one is just out of my budget. It is a fair price for the mileage and condition.

Your second link is for a car that is no longer available.

And the 3rd car is awesome, but the wife won't allow a manual because she can't drive it while I'm gone. So, must be DCT.


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Dct it is. I will keep my eyes peeled. The 2nd car is still available if you click the link (via web view). it doesn't work on tapatalk for some reason, but it too is a manual. I definitely see how it's a unicorn hunt...it's honestly hard to get all the characteristics in one car, but is necessary for the price one must pay ...which is why the search takes a while!

[az3579]

And the 3rd car is awesome, but the wife won't allow a manual because she can't drive it while I'm gone. So, must be DCT.



Isn't that what the X5M is for?

[JupiterBMW]

Isn't that what the X5M is for?

Yes, however we want something more economical so she can trade off now and then.


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[Go Horns!]

http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/BMW/2011-BMW-M3+Sedan-f811d9fa0a0a006549e854d2918dc975.htm?geoZip=75604

They list it as a manual, but it is DCT. Silver on Silver with Nav. And CPO. They are asking $46,995. 21,500 miles.

[JupiterBMW]

Damn if only it were a competition car. Still worth a look... But wtf is up with that body damage!?!


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[TigerTater]

Jon what's the deal with the speaker grills? Silver rings is individual? Is it a different speaker or just rings? Also what's your opinion on the rod bearing issue? Preventative replacement? I was reading it's less of an issue on the later model cars that they kind of rectified the issue..? Lastly I've seen guys on the M forums send black stone reports as part of PPI...,overkill or no?

[JupiterBMW]

The silver trimmed speaker grills are part of the enhanced premium sound (S752A Individual Sound). Yes it is a better speaker... Although, I simulated this look on my ZHP, and really like the silver trim rings, regardless of what is behind them.

As for the rod bearings, I believe as long as the car is well looked after and regular service has been done on time, should be a non issue, especially on the late model builds I am searching for. I have kept the issue in mind, but it isn't swaying my buying decision yet. Also, I will most likely CPO certify the car I buy.

As for the Blackstone reports, I think that is just ridiculous on all these cars. Two points on this... First, we all change our oil more than the recommended intervals. Personally, I do every 5k miles. We are nowhere near getting to the end of the service life of the oil. Second, we all burn premium fuel, less contaminants there. So, as long as the oil quantity is kept at the top and it is changed regularly, I don't see any need for it. Secondly, what if a report comes back bad.? What is someone going to do? We're not going to overhaul the engine just based on a report. Granted with the known rod bearing issue of the S65, I suppose it could be something useful, but seriously, if a report came back bad, all I see anyone doing is just a more frequent oil change anyway... Personally, I would do an oil flush and then change... I think that's more useful. Oil analysis is only beneficial when the oil is constantly in use, and not changed... For instance, the main engine oil on our ships is not changed, only purified. So, to monitor purifier and filter performance, we do sample analysis. Otherwise, I think it's pointless.


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[Go Horns!]

Damn if only it were a competition car. Still worth a look... But wtf is up with that body damage!?!


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It looks more like tar than a scrape, but would need to inspect to know.

My boss has an e90 M3 with adaptive suspension. I don't notice a big difference between the modes. I mainly notice the difference when on really crappy roads. On decent roads, it is tough to tell.

[JupiterBMW]

Ah ok I only looked on my phone. Will have to look again.


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[TigerTater]

The silver trimmed speaker grills are part of the enhanced premium sound (S752A Individual Sound). Yes it is a better speaker... Although, I simulated this look on my ZHP, and really like the silver trim rings, regardless of what is behind them.

As for the rod bearings, I believe as long as the car is well looked after and regular service has been done on time, should be a non issue, especially on the late model builds I am searching for. I have kept the issue in mind, but it isn't swaying my buying decision yet. Also, I will most likely CPO certify the car I buy.

As for the Blackstone reports, I think that is just ridiculous on all these cars. Two points on this... First, we all change our oil more than the recommended intervals. Personally, I do every 5k miles. We are nowhere near getting to the end of the service life of the oil. Second, we all burn premium fuel, less contaminants there. So, as long as the oil quantity is kept at the top and it is changed regularly, I don't see any need for it. Secondly, what if a report comes back bad.? What is someone going to do? We're not going to overhaul the engine just based on a report. Granted with the known rod bearing issue of the S65, I suppose it could be something useful, but seriously, if a report came back bad, all I see anyone doing is just a more frequent oil change anyway... Personally, I would do an oil flush and then change... I think that's more useful. Oil analysis is only beneficial when the oil is constantly in use, and not changed... For instance, the main engine oil on our ships is not changed, only purified. So, to monitor purifier and filter performance, we do sample analysis. Otherwise, I think it's pointless.


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Good points. Appreciate your feedback...but your right about the oil analysis ..,kind of silly. CPO sounds like a good route to go! I'm planning on keeping my next car for a long time..

[JupiterBMW]

Yep, if I land the M3 I want, I too will hang onto it for a long time. [emoji16]


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[TigerTater]

alpine white dct/fox red 44kmiles: no zcp: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-M3-Sedan-Convenience-M-Double-Clutch-Premium-2-Nav-Enhanced-Sound-71kMSRP-/151618518792?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

silverstone e92-obviously not for you, but I just liked this one for the interior leather. Good example to see something you might want :drool http://austin.craigslist.org/ctd/4930200921.html

Black zcp-37kmiles Tampa http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/4920362404.html

Black e90-40kmiles http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ctd/4925294156.html

Black zcp with bamboo interior40k miles- http://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/4928807984.html

Gorgeous Interlagos Arlington 33k miles http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4930045633.html

Thats all Ive got for now! maybe some leeds in there!

[JupiterBMW]

Good links... That interior in the coupe is the black/palladium silver that I want. Very hard to find. It actually looks better in the sedan because the back seats don't have the V shape seam between the black and silver, it's horizontal like the front seats.


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[JupiterBMW]

And thank you for the links. The interlagos car is pretty but overpriced for not having ZCP. And the picture isn't perfect but I don't know if those are OEM splitters. For that money, he needs to have competition, carbon leather, and lower miles.


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[TigerTater]

And thank you for the links. The interlagos car is pretty but overpriced for not having ZCP. And the picture isn't perfect but I don't know if those are OEM splitters. For that money, he needs to have competition, carbon leather, and lower miles.


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Agree with you on pricing. He's banking hard on the 33k miles and bmw performance accessories. I think he'd be on par at 40k$. Is carbon leather more desirable/expensive option than the silver?

[JupiterBMW]

Yeah I agree, but I'd much rather have the ZCP package than mods at this point. The carbon leather was a $500 add on if you didn't have the premium package, but so was the aluminum. I do think it's the most desirable trim though, at least not including the individual options.


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[JupiterBMW]

Looked at a solid contender yesterday. The car was almost perfect, but it had full black leather, not my first choice. Also, being in the opposite corner of the country, it'll cost me close to $2000 to ship it. So, trying to investigate a couple of other options, and waiting to see what else pops up. Picture of the Seattle car below... Notice the liquid sunshine, made the test drive a little less fun, but still an amazing car. And I can now officially say I am completely fine not having a 3rd pedal. I fell in love with the DCT.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/16/574b732463c11a216be81521f8e9e4d9.jpg


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[fredo]

Car looks great ! How many miles on the clock ? Too bad about he interior and shipping. Good to hear you had chance to meet up with 2 fellow mafiosos.

[JupiterBMW]

43k miles, out of warranty by 10 days. That's the big bummer. I could live with the interior as it was in beautiful condition, but I just don't want black.

And yes, great to catch up with the Mafia.


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[TigerTater]

I would love to hear more about the DCT. I'm on the fence leaning towards 6mt., but haven't heard an unbiased report from anyone whose driven Mt for long term before.

[az3579]

I would love to hear more about the DCT. I'm on the fence leaning towards 6mt., but haven't heard an unbiased report from anyone whose driven Mt for long term before.

Dude, the DCT is a fantastic transmission.

[TigerTater]

Dude, the DCT is a fantastic transmission.

I never said it wasn't...just wanted to hear Jons opinion on it. I've never owned a manual trans, and always have wanted one. So I figure my next car will have one.

[az3579]

I never said it wasn't...just wanted to hear Jons opinion on it. I've never owned a manual trans, and always have wanted one. So I figure my next car will have one.

Strictly speaking of BMW's here...

The thing is that manuals are better in performance and fuel economy when compared to older automatic transmissions. With the current generation of 8-speed autos that BMW has, the autos are better in every way (except fun). The DCT blows manuals and automatics out of the water entirely.

The only reason to keep a manual nowadays when we're talking about modern cars is for the "fun" factor. Otherwise, it makes no logical sense to have a manual nowadays when compared to the sport auto's and DCT's of today's market. Ultimately, a lot of us will ignore that anyway because three pedals is too fun to pass up!

Just my 2 cents.

[Vas]

Meh to dct. 3 pedals or bust.

[KevinC]

While I have no axe to grind with anyone who prefers an auto, one BIG reason to stick with a manual over an exotic gearbox like the DCT or DSG from VW is cost. NFW I'd own either outside of warranty. Manual box? Put a clutch in it at about 150k-200k miles, change the fluid at regular intervals, and it will last forever.

[az3579]

While I have no axe to grind with anyone who prefers an auto, one BIG reason to stick with a manual over an exotic gearbox like the DCT or DSG from VW is cost. NFW I'd own either outside of warranty. Manual box? Put a clutch in it at about 150k-200k miles, change the fluid at regular intervals, and it will last forever.

That's actually a really good point I forgot about, so I did a little more research. While there is nothing conclusive, I did come across a very good discussion on the DCT maintenance and longevity in this thread here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307021

I also did another search for high-mileage DCT-equipped cars and found a thread where people have mileages of upwards of 114k (and in one case 160k) with zero issues with their DCT transmissions. I only looked on the first page since I didn't feel like reading over 5 pages worth, but that thread is here if anyone is interested:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894069

EDIT: Turns out the second one is only 5 pages so I actually read through it.

2 issues were reported; one wouldn't engage Park and the other had an issue with the clutches where the whole transmission was replaced.
There were a few people (I can count on one hand) with DCT oil pan leaks, but I don't consider that a problem with the transmission.
There was one person who was getting a light, but they found nothing wrong at the dealer and was told it was an electrical glitch.

[JupiterBMW]

Wow great post BP, thanks. I just landed in Florida, have been flying all night, so I will catch up on a lot of this dct talk soon.


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[NYRhockey]

Meh to dct. 3 pedals or bust.

Quoted for truth

[az3579]

Wow great post BP, thanks. I just landed in Florida, have been flying all night, so I will catch up on a lot of this dct talk soon.


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Hope you find those posts useful. Overall I didn't see anything alarming in those threads to make even me reconsider a DCT (and I'm a diehard "no autos" guy). The reliability seems good enough to warrant consideration, especially for folks like you Jon that don't drive the car all that much per year.


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[JupiterBMW]

Anyone near the Queens area that would be able/willing to look at a car for me? This is a new discovery, and I'm not sure that the car is going to be up to standard, but I can't deny the price... Also, Dinan badge in pictures, so I'm curious... Would be very appreciative if anyone could go and take a look for me...

Let me know! Thanks!!

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/627530947/overview/

[az3579]

I can travel to take a look at it for you. Queens is only about an hour from me so it's close. :thumbsup

Let me know if you need me.


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[JupiterBMW]

An hour is close? Damn dude, you're awesome. I already feel bad, Stu looked at a car in Maryland for me that was 45 min-1 hr away from him...

I tried calling the dealer, but no answer (or voicemail...?!?) so I will try again before you spend your time and gas getting there. Also, awaiting another call back from a dealer in Georgia...

Until this morning, I only had the two Lemans Blue cars to decide between, but some early morning searching turned up two more cars, both Silverstone, both fit the majority of the specs...

So close to having a car, yet so far away. :biggrin

[az3579]

An hour is close? Damn dude, you're awesome. I already feel bad, Stu looked at a car in Maryland for me that was 45 min-1 hr away from him...

I tried calling the dealer, but no answer (or voicemail...?!?) so I will try again before you spend your time and gas getting there. Also, awaiting another call back from a dealer in Georgia...

Until this morning, I only had the two Lemans Blue cars to decide between, but some early morning searching turned up two more cars, both Silverstone, both fit the majority of the specs...

So close to having a car, yet so far away. :biggrin

Dude, driving an hour each way for me is nothing. I used to drive 33-35k a year, remember? :biggrin
If you do indeed get a hold of the seller and make arrangements, I would prefer it if was around noontime. Traffic going to and from the city in the morning is killer, so if I was to arrive around the noon timeframe, I avoid traffic going to and probably coming back entirely. :thumbsup

[JupiterBMW]

That sounds awesome BP... I will try them again soon. For reference, here is the link to the car so you can get directions and whatnot...

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/627530947/overview/

**EDIT** I just spoke to them... Not going to lie, it sounds like a Mom & Pop kind of dealer, not really expecting the best. However, the guy seemed pretty nice, said the car was in their showroom and that you could go by and look at it and drive it anytime. I also asked about you taking photos, he said no problem (the pics online suck)...

I'll shoot you a call at some point and we'll chat more. Appreciate it buddy. :)

[az3579]

That sounds awesome BP... I will try them again soon. For reference, here is the link to the car so you can get directions and whatnot...

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/627530947/overview/

**EDIT** I just spoke to them... Not going to lie, it sounds like a Mom & Pop kind of dealer, not really expecting the best. However, the guy seemed pretty nice, said the car was in their showroom and that you could go by and look at it and drive it anytime. I also asked about you taking photos, he said no problem (the pics online suck)...

I'll shoot you a call at some point and we'll chat more. Appreciate it buddy. :)

No problem, man. My only concern about it would be that it's in Queens. City cars usually live somewhat abused lives. You cannot walk down a street in the New York City and not see bumpers without at least a few scratches on them. Hopefully this is an "upstate" car that was traded in or something. It doesn't look bad from the pictures at least.

Warranty cutoff is awfully close; if this is a later production car then it should still have a few months left on warranty.

I'll wait for your call before I call them to set up an appointment.

[JupiterBMW]

Spoke to the dealer again this morning BP. I told them you wanted to come around noon tomorrow, he said no problem, car will be in the showroom, they're there from 10-7pm. I did insist that they let you drive it, so that shouldn't be a problem. If they give any feedback, you can tell them that I won't be calling them about purchase unless you can drive it. I know your inspection will be miles better than any multi-point BS they can offer.

And once again, thanks to you for helping me out. [emoji106]


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[az3579]

Spoke to the dealer again this morning BP. I told them you wanted to come around noon tomorrow, he said no problem, car will be in the showroom, they're there from 10-7pm. I did insist that they let you drive it, so that shouldn't be a problem. If they give any feedback, you can tell them that I won't be calling them about purchase unless you can drive it. I know your inspection will be miles better than any multi-point BS they can offer.

And once again, thanks to you for helping me out. [emoji106]


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So I assume the service records checked out?

[JupiterBMW]

Actually I posted too early... I apologize. But, after visiting my dealer, we can scratch this. The car had the engine replaced around 21k miles. So it's obviously not been cared for properly, or it's been beat on. Either way, I'm no longer interested.


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[JupiterBMW]

Such a shame, the price is right, especially for a car with Dinan goodies.


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[slater]

Such a shame, the price is right, especially for a car with Dinan goodies.


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21K miles seems premature, even with severe beating. i wonder what the story is.

peter

[JupiterBMW]

Car started life in Texas, then was located in Arizona for the rest of its life. It went to auction in Nevada, and apparently the lot in NY bought it from there. It showed a cylinder head issue at around 9K miles, and then the connecting rod failure at 22K or so... Too many issues for me to want to get involved.

[cakM3]

Unfortunate Jon but at least you found out the car's history. Probably a smart decision to pass and continue searching...you will eventually land a beaut! I'm sure of this :thumbsup

[JupiterBMW]

Thanks Charlie. I am getting close!


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[az3579]

Just out of curiosity, is it a crate motor that got put in? Meaning, it really has less than 20k on the motor? That isn't such a bad thing, but I hear ha. My OCD would be bouncing off the walls too.

Sorry this one didn't pan out.


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[JupiterBMW]

No idea on the replacement engine...


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[JupiterBMW]

Ok, all that's left to do is reverify numbers with the bank (tomorrow morning) and then call on each car and negotiate a price. To be continued...

[TigerTater]

Awesome. Glad it's coming together. Which one you leaning towards?

[JupiterBMW]

Awesome. Glad it's coming together. Which one you leaning towards?

I can't let out all the details now can I?? [emoji6]


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[az3579]

I can't let out all the details now can I?? [emoji6]


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Yes, actually - you can. :shifty

[JupiterBMW]

Well, a small part of me is glad... The search is over... I can finally sleep again. However, now I'll lose sleep from anticipation and excitement...

A deal has been made. :eeps

[Jon D]

Congrats enjoy


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[TigerTater]

LOL :party awesome.

[brettbimmer]

So when does the Cadillac DeVille arrive? 😁

[cakM3]

Awesome news Jon! Can't wait to see what you got :thumbsup

[Oli77]

Looking forward to the new thread Jon.

[JupiterBMW]

So when does the Cadillac DeVille arrive? [emoji16]

Actually the Captain on my ship is a Cadillac nut, he would appreciate this... [emoji23]


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[prowlerflyer]

Anxiously awaiting to see the winner...

[JupiterBMW]

Anxiously awaiting to see the winner...

See it? Heck, you've already ridden in it... :biggrin

So, the winner is the car in WA. I spent all day yesterday trying to negotiate the car in Maryland but I didn't have good vibes from the dealer at all. We spoke on the phone quite a bit in the morning and I mentioned wanting the car for $2-3K less than asking due to the mechanical imperfections and the fact that it was a sight unseen purchase. They said the only wiggle room was $500. So, I left it alone, and then texted him later and explained market value for a less than prime car, with fewer options than others (the only thing it didn't have was sunroof and premium sound). I told him what my final offer was. This was done via text message. No reply right away.

By this time it was later in the day, and I figured it can't hurt to make the same offer on the WA car, even though he'll probably say no way (I knew his loan payoff was pretty close to his asking price). I sent him an email (private seller) and explained how I arrived at my offer. Within 30 minutes, he had replied with a really nice email back, accepting! :roundel

We discussed a few details on the phone and he said to me that his break even bottom line was $500 more than what I offered, but when he got my offer, he thought to himself how I would incur extra expense transporting the car to FL, and decided to accept the offer as is so help me out a bit. Who actually does that?!?!?! This guy is such a nice guy, I actually wish he still had a BMW so I could invite him to the Mafia! This of course is also after we (Jeff, Steve, and I) met him the other day, and we all agreed he seemed like a very forthcoming, honest person. So, I feel very good with this car, even if it is out of warranty.

Anyway, the car... Its a 2011 M3 sedan, Lemans Blue over Black Novilio Leather with carbon leather trim. The car has Premium 2, Convenience, Competition, and Cold Weather packages. Some standalone options include the sunroof, premium sound, phone snap in adapter, and satellite radio. The car has 43k miles, but I swear, it is showroom fresh. We couldn't find a single mark on it, not one curb mark on the wheels... :wub Completely bone stock for now, and he even included the BMW roof rack with bicycle adapter for free!

I'm super excited to get her to Florida, where I will post more pics! Here's the one pic I snapped when we looked at the car.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k166/jdinisio/IMG_4290.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/jdinisio/media/IMG_4290.jpg.html)

[cakM3]

Damn Jon!!! Congrats on a great ///M!!!


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[JupiterBMW]

Thanks Charlie! :)

[Oli77]

Exciting times! Congrats.

[fredo]

Congrats, she's a beauty ! Great choice. :applause2

[Johnmadd]

Awesome!

[slater]

congrats jon! that is awesome!!

peter

[az3579]

Called it. Knew you'd go for the WA one. :thumbsup


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[Pip]

Great purchase. Looking forward to interior pics once you get it home.

[MackDiva]

Well done and as someone who has been on the hunt lately, I have to say I love the chronicle of the whole quest! Congratulations!

[brettbimmer]

She's beautiful! Congratulations Jon! (Beats the heck out of the Caddy too). 😁

[TigerTater]

So jealous right now!! But I am glad someone from the mafia is going the e90 M route! Now I know who can answer all my questions going forward!! Congrats on the search ending! Blue is beautiful on those cars .... : drool

[NoVAphotog]

See it? Heck, you've already ridden in it... :biggrin

So, the winner is the car in WA. I spent all day yesterday trying to negotiate the car in Maryland but I didn't have good vibes from the dealer at all. We spoke on the phone quite a bit in the morning and I mentioned wanting the car for $2-3K less than asking due to the mechanical imperfections and the fact that it was a sight unseen purchase. They said the only wiggle room was $500. So, I left it alone, and then texted him later and explained market value for a less than prime car, with fewer options than others (the only thing it didn't have was sunroof and premium sound). I told him what my final offer was. This was done via text message. No reply right away.

By this time it was later in the day, and I figured it can't hurt to make the same offer on the WA car, even though he'll probably say no way (I knew his loan payoff was pretty close to his asking price). I sent him an email (private seller) and explained how I arrived at my offer. Within 30 minutes, he had replied with a really nice email back, accepting! :roundel

We discussed a few details on the phone and he said to me that his break even bottom line was $500 more than what I offered, but when he got my offer, he thought to himself how I would incur extra expense transporting the car to FL, and decided to accept the offer as is so help me out a bit. Who actually does that?!?!?! This guy is such a nice guy, I actually wish he still had a BMW so I could invite him to the Mafia! This of course is also after we (Jeff, Steve, and I) met him the other day, and we all agreed he seemed like a very forthcoming, honest person. So, I feel very good with this car, even if it is out of warranty.

Anyway, the car... Its a 2011 M3 sedan, Lemans Blue over Black Novilio Leather with carbon leather trim. The car has Premium 2, Convenience, Competition, and Cold Weather packages. Some standalone options include the sunroof, premium sound, phone snap in adapter, and satellite radio. The car has 43k miles, but I swear, it is showroom fresh. We couldn't find a single mark on it, not one curb mark on the wheels... :wub Completely bone stock for now, and he even included the BMW roof rack with bicycle adapter for free!

I'm super excited to get her to Florida, where I will post more pics! Here's the one pic I snapped when we looked at the car.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k166/jdinisio/IMG_4290.jpg (http://s88.photobucket.com/user/jdinisio/media/IMG_4290.jpg.html)

:drool :drool :drool

Beautiful Jon! Congrats! She's already tinted and ready for some Florida sunshine! Talk about a change in scenery for her. Can't wait for the new thread...maybe a new avatar pic with 14.8 mpg :p

[danewilson77]

Way to go Joop.

"No flamesuit required"

[JupiterBMW]

Thanks for all of the kind replies guys. I have to be honest, I'm pretty ecstatic. And of course, even though the ZHP has been gone now, I will for sure still keep my browser on the Mafia, this is still the best car forum/group I've ever been a part of.


Great purchase. Looking forward to interior pics once you get it home.
Interior pics and whatnot are all coming as soon as she's down this way.


So jealous right now!! But I am glad someone from the mafia is going the e90 M route! Now I know who can answer all my questions going forward!! Congrats on the search ending! Blue is beautiful on those cars .... : drool
Of course. I by no means have many answers on the platform, but I can now say that I'm pretty skilled in the options available. So yes, hit me up with any questions you may have. :thumbsup

:drool :drool :drool

Beautiful Jon! Congrats! She's already tinted and ready for some Florida sunshine! Talk about a change in scenery for her. Can't wait for the new thread...maybe a new avatar pic with 14.8 mpg :p
Hah! Yes, already tinted, although I want to check the manufacturer, and if its not a high level for heat reflection, I'll probably have it removed and redone. That's way down the road though. So we'll see...

As for gas mileage, I'm impressed to be honest. My wife gets 14 in the X5, so who knows, she might get 16 or more in the M3!! :biggrin

[illirep]

Awesome, congrats. As mentioned in another thread yesterday, I have used Montway Auto Transport several times with no complaints.

Worth giving them a call. That is unless you are planning a cross country trip!

[3ZHP]

Looks great Jon, can't wait to see it with your personal touches.


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[jiggz]

See it? Heck, you've already ridden in it... :biggrin

So, the winner is the car in WA. I spent all day yesterday trying to negotiate the car in Maryland but I didn't have good vibes from the dealer at all. We spoke on the phone quite a bit in the morning and I mentioned wanting the car for $2-3K less than asking due to the mechanical imperfections and the fact that it was a sight unseen purchase. They said the only wiggle room was $500. So, I left it alone, and then texted him later and explained market value for a less than prime car, with fewer options than others (the only thing it didn't have was sunroof and premium sound). I told him what my final offer was. This was done via text message. No reply right away.

By this time it was later in the day, and I figured it can't hurt to make the same offer on the WA car, even though he'll probably say no way (I knew his loan payoff was pretty close to his asking price). I sent him an email (private seller) and explained how I arrived at my offer. Within 30 minutes, he had replied with a really nice email back, accepting! :roundel

We discussed a few details on the phone and he said to me that his break even bottom line was $500 more than what I offered, but when he got my offer, he thought to himself how I would incur extra expense transporting the car to FL, and decided to accept the offer as is so help me out a bit. Who actually does that?!?!?! This guy is such a nice guy, I actually wish he still had a BMW so I could invite him to the Mafia! This of course is also after we (Jeff, Steve, and I) met him the other day, and we all agreed he seemed like a very forthcoming, honest person. So, I feel very good with this car, even if it is out of warranty.

Anyway, the car... Its a 2011 M3 sedan, Lemans Blue over Black Novilio Leather with carbon leather trim. The car has Premium 2, Convenience, Competition, and Cold Weather packages. Some standalone options include the sunroof, premium sound, phone snap in adapter, and satellite radio. The car has 43k miles, but I swear, it is showroom fresh. We couldn't find a single mark on it, not one curb mark on the wheels... :wub Completely bone stock for now, and he even included the BMW roof rack with bicycle adapter for free!

I'm super excited to get her to Florida, where I will post more pics! Here's the one pic I snapped when we looked at the car.


Agreed Jon, Olen is the exact sort of seller we all look for when buying privately. He was a stand-up, honest guy, and it doesn't surprise me to hear he went below his bottom line to help you out a bit.

BTW, I read the next day that the rainfall that day of the test drive was the 2nd wettest day on record in March since they've been keeping rain records up here in Seattle, 100+ years or so. Which is strange because I believe we've also set a record for the overall driest winter on record. Bad timing, but you'll have plenty of opportunity to let it rip once you take possession.

Congratulations again, I think you made the right choice between the two.

[JupiterBMW]

Agreed Jon, Olen is the exact sort of seller we all look for when buying privately. He was a stand-up, honest guy, and it doesn't surprise me to hear he went below his bottom line to help you out a bit.

BTW, I read the next day that the rainfall that day of the test drive was the 2nd wettest day on record in March since they've been keeping rain records up here in Seattle, 100+ years or so. Which is strange because I believe we've also set a record for the overall driest winter on record. Bad timing, but you'll have plenty of opportunity to let it rip once you take possession.

Congratulations again, I think you made the right choice between the two.

Thanks again Jeff. I agree, such a super nice guy. I actually just spoke to him again... After a GRUELING 5-6 hours on the phone with banks today, I was unable to get the funds wired. According to them, I didn't answer a security question right, and they were unwilling to wire the funds after that. I fought so much and tried so hard to make it happen (even raced to the closest office to provide physical ID only to get there 15 minutes before closing time and find the doors locked... Friday afternoon) that they finally submitted my wire for immediate transfer Monday morning... And the guy I spoke to last felt so bad about how horrible the customer service experience was, he threw $50 into my account for me. And that was just with my bank. Then I had to deal with the other bank for the loan... They screwed up too... So, no money was moved.. Anyway, called Olen to update him and he was completely understanding, said not to worry at all.

As for the rain, its funny you mention that. They always say that its good luck to get rain on your wedding day. And well, I'm basically married to this car (I had to sell my soul to my wife for her to let me buy it:rofl) so, hopefully the extremely rainy test drive will mean good luck during ownership! :biggrin

[BADCLOWN]

Gorgeous car, congrats on finding something you're happy with.

[JupiterBMW]

Thanks dude, pretty damn excited. I was at the dealer today, and they had a sign in the showroom that showed an E90 M3 sedan in Lemans Blue. Made me smile. :)

[ELCID86]

Congrats Jon. Can't wait to see it in Ohio.


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[JupiterBMW]

Ahh, sorry buddy. Won't make into Ohio this year, I'll be on the ship. Sucks too, really wanted to make it...


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[UdubBadger]

At least it'll save you the time and effort of cleaning off all the drool on the M for an entire weekend


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[JupiterBMW]

Hah, the drool had no effect... Would deal with all of it to see the family. But, duty calls, will be on the ship...


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