BC Racing BR Type Coilovers

[WOLFN8TR]

I find myself contemplating getting a set of BC Racing BR Type Coilovers. The quality and adjustability for the price is very impressive.

I spoke to Charlie the other day to get some feedback on these. Charlie runs these on both his ///M and ZHP and loves them! He is going on 4 years with these on his ///M and 1 year on his ZHP!

Charlie's Review:
If you would ask me to be completely honest with you and ask me if I would go back to these? My answer would be a resounding "Hell yeah!!!" All in all, these coilovers cost me $995 shipped directly to my door.

I'm impressed with their build quality and longevity. For street driving and spirited driving, these are awesome. I take corners hard too (20mph cloverleaf highway merges going as fast as 60mph) and they still perform I feel so planted with these that I'm confident going into corners.


BC Racing Coilover Suspension Kit - BMW 3 Series (E46)

The BC BR Type RA Series Coilover Kit features 30 levels of damping force adjustment, combined with full length height adjustment allowing an extremely low ride height, and pillowball upper mounts.

The BC BR Type RA Series Coilover Kit comes with Pillowball upper mounts in the front, and rubber upper mounts in the rear, combining the properties of both types of upper mounts. This setup is designed for drivers who look for the ultimate balance of comfort and superior performance, coupled with a smooth and forgiving overall ride quality. This makes the BC BR Type RA Series Coilover the ideal choice for street, circuit and tarmac rally use. For most of those vehicles equipped with McPherson Struts, the front pillowball upper mounts are automatically upgraded to Camber adjustable upper mounts.

The BC BR Type RA Series Coilover Kit utilizes enlarged shock absorber cartridges with specially designed shock pistons and rods to provide a broad range of damping force. The newly developed lubricant oil used in all BC Racing shock absorber cartridges assists in minimizing aeration and cavitation. The beveled edge design on the lower locking ring ensures and optimum seal with the lower mount and prevents the lower locking ring from unseating.

Standard Features:
- F: With Camber Adjustable Top Mount
- R: With (or Without) Rubber Top Mount
- 30 Level Damping Force Adjustment
- Height Adjustment System
- Enlarged Cylinder & Newly Developed Piston
- Exclusively Designed for Each Application
- Anodized Alloy Casing
- CNC Machined
- T6061 Alloy Locking Ring
- SAE9254 Steel Racing Springs
- Monotube Design For Maximum Performance
- Fully Rebuildable
- 12 Month Warranty

Technical:
- Coilovers use 46mm pistons and 53mm shock housings, the enlarged shock cartridges with specially designed pistons and rods provide a wide range of damping force
- Valves are constructed of special spring steel, which outperforms stainless steels and produces longer valve life. Valve stacks use a patented deflective system to provide more precise control
- Patented concave lower locking ring, to prevent unseating
- Springs are made of SAE9254 high strength, durable steel. Compression tested at over 500,000 times with less than 5% deformation
- High pressure inner rod guide seals ensure a perfect fit for consistent fade resistant damping and long shock life
- 2 step coating process utilizing nickel and chromium plating to prevent corrosion
- Newly developed lubricant oil in all shock cartridges minimizes aeration and cavitation
- An additional bearing beneath each pillowball mount provides a smooth action and prolongs the life of the pillowball itself
- T6061 Aluminum utilized in spring locks and seats for high strength and lightweight
- Iron lower brackets on MacPherson struts to ensure rigidity
- Piston rods are constructed of highly polished steel to lengthen oil seal life and prevent leaking

Spring Rates:
F: 7kg
R: 8kg

Vehicle Compatibility:
- BMW 3 Series E46 (98-06)

BC Racing Superstore- $995
http://bcracingsuperstore.com/bc-racing-br-type-coilover-for-98-06-bmw-e46/

FCP Euro- $1000
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-coilover-kit-e46-i-02br

BC Racing on Amazon- $1000 (use affiliate link)
http://www.amazon.com/BC-Racing-Series-Coilovers-SERIES/dp/B00E0PPV9Q

BC Racing website-$1300
BC Racing.com (http://www.bc-racing.com.au/bc-racing-coilover-suspension-kit-bmw-3-series-e46-i-02-ra.html)

BC Racing Coilover Adjusting Extenders BR Series 25cm- $32-40

BC Racing extenders, once fitted allow you to control the spring damping on the 2 rear coilovers without having to remove seats or trunk carpet every time.
Pretty much essential if you are constantly changing settings on your BCs.
Only fit BC Coilovers. Supplied in pairs.

http://www.hptmotorsports.com/universal/coilover-damper-controllers/bc-racing-br-series-coilover-rear-extenders-only-bc-br-ext.html

http://www.maperformance.com/bc-racing-br-series-coilover-rear-extenders-only.html

http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/br-series-coilover-kit-adjustment-extenders



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Please try to keep on topic, this thread is dedicated BC Racing Coilovers.

[WOLFN8TR]

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[ELCID86]

Looks like a well priced option for coilovers. I was hoping to pick up a used set of ST KWs here local but the seller on CL won't respond. These are now a top contender. Thanks!

[328ioc]

I have a set of these as well on my ZHP although they are the M3 set (8/12 srlprings) and I absolutely love them.

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[WOLFN8TR]

Looks like a well priced option for coilovers. I was hoping to pick up a used set of ST KWs here local but the seller on CL won't respond. These are now a top contender. Thanks!

Welcome...


I have a set of these as well on my ZHP although they are the M3 set (8/12 srlprings) and I absolutely love them.

Good to here! So the M3 set just has the stiffer springs? The 3 series setup comes with Spring Rates of F: 7kg and R: 8kg. I wonder what the ride difference is between the two?

Paging Charlie: What spring rates are you running?

[cakM3]

Gary,

On the ZHP I'm running 8KG front and 12KG rear (standard M3 setup). On my ///M I'm running 14KG front and 12KG rear. I'm running much stiffer springs in front because they're about 2" shorter than the stock springs since I have lowered my ride height that much more on the ///M :)

The roads here are really bad in places so I opted for a much stiffer spring rate for the ZHP compared to the stock 3-series for non-M's. The ZHP has a very solid ride and I absolutely love it :thumbsup Hope this answers your question Gary :)

[WOLFN8TR]

Perfect Charlie, Thanks!

[328ioc]

Agree again with what charlie said. The 8/12 set up is perfect.

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[Avetiso]

They sound like a great budget coilover.

I'd still opt for GC because Koni's. :p

[328ioc]

I wouldnt call then budget.....just well priced. They have all the quality without the cost.

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[cakM3]

I wouldnt call then budget.....just well priced. They have all the quality without the cost.

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I agree with everything Devlin just posted :thumbsup

[ELCID86]

Group buy!?


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[328ioc]

Group buy!?


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I have a friend with a connection who I ordered my set from.

So I can ask if you want.

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[cakM3]

Gary, here are the differences between the stock M3 springs that came with my kit when I purchased it for my ///M and the shortened much stiffer springs I now have installed ;)

The shorter springs are 2" shorter...provided by BC Racing, of course ;)

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[WOLFN8TR]

I have a friend with a connection who I ordered my set from.

So I can ask if you want.

Oh ya! :headbang


Gary, here are the differences between the stock M3 springs that came with my kit when I purchased it for my ///M and the shortened much stiffer springs I now have installed ;)

The shorter springs are 2" shorter...provided by BC Racing, of course ;)

Wow big difference.

[cakM3]

I'll be staying with the original springs for my ZHP....the roads up here are bad... and I get no rubbing at all running the original M3 setup :) The M3 however does rub slightly when hitting the stupid huge bumps on the road up in Mass....I mean I have to really slow down on the highway so I don't rub too badly....other than that, the ride is awesome. I'm just much more careful while driving the M3 now :thumbsup

[WOLFN8TR]

Well the ///M does sit pretty low.

[cakM3]

Well the ///M does sit pretty low.

I like it low....not slammed though ;)

[Taliben]

I too am rocking BC racing coils. I'm on 8/12 like devlin except I'm on swift springs instead of factory bc racing. I'm actually really content with the way they handle, I drive them on full stiff pretty much every day and it's not too rough at all and the car handles like a champ.

[WOLFN8TR]

Good to hear, another happy customer. Ya I think the 8/12 setup seems to be way to go.

[328ioc]

I've got mine half stiff for DD driving. I don't think full stiff would be bad though. I am going to try different settings when I have time.

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[cakM3]

On both my cars I have them set at 15 (half-way) and the ride is comfortable....stiff when need be :)

[328ioc]

Sent my friend a message about a group buy for you guys.

Will let you all know when I hear back.

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[ZHP Dave]

I may be interested in a GB as well.

[Taliben]

Half stiff felt too soft for me personally. It felt like the car wanted to float around over dips on the highway. My rear spring is really short so I have the strut adjusted all the way to its shortest and I still can't set preload.

[WOLFN8TR]

Sent my friend a message about a group buy for you guys.

Will let you all know when I hear back.

Sounds good keep us posted!

Thanks for the info guys, keep it coming.

[bullfrogs_M3]

In for a group buy but a couple questions first.

1. Does the lower spring rate contribute to or make the car have that "ricer" bounce? I don't know exactly what causes that bouncy look on some lowered cars. I do have it and I can't figure out if it is my springs or my settings on my coils. I have that ricer bounce and it pisses me the hell off, especially at night :(

2. Are the rear struts threaded and adjustable? Meaning, can I completely thread the strut down into the housing to drop the rear independent of the spring? I can do that now with the set of coils I have but my rears just won't go down any further and I still have a raked look to the car where I want to just sit level front to rear. See the picture of the rear struts on the link below to see what I mean. I can thread the strut down into the strut housing but only "so much", where as I really want to thread it down even more.

I am running this setup (for non-M3) F2 (Function and Form) http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=271370

[cakM3]

In for a group buy but a couple questions first.

1. Does the lower spring rate contribute to or make the car have that "ricer" bounce? I don't know exactly what causes that bouncy look on some lowered cars. I do have it and I can't figure out if it is my springs or my settings on my coils. I have that ricer bounce and it pisses me the hell off, especially at night :(

Good question....not sure but I would guess the lower spring rate will contribute to a more bouncy ride. On my daily commute there's a bridge I have to drive on that is long and bumpy and I feel every bump but my ZHP doesn't bounce. The car is steady as I drive over that bridge and my ZHP is lowered...

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2. Are the rear struts threaded and adjustable? Meaning, can I completely thread the strut down into the housing to drop the rear independent of the spring? I can do that now with the set of coils I have but my rears just won't go down any further and I still have a raked look to the car where I want to just sit level front to rear. See the picture of the rear struts on the link below to see what I mean. I can thread the strut down into the strut housing but only "so much", where as I really want to thread it down even more.

I am running this setup (for non-M3) F2 (Function and Form) http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=271370

There is a lot of adjustment for the rear struts (top strut pictured). I haven't had any issues and had a level setup on my ZHP initially but lowered it and decided to have just a little rake...

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Hope this helps :thumbsup

[Taliben]

In for a group buy but a couple questions first.

1. Does the lower spring rate contribute to or make the car have that "ricer" bounce? I don't know exactly what causes that bouncy look on some lowered cars. I do have it and I can't figure out if it is my springs or my settings on my coils. I have that ricer bounce and it pisses me the hell off, especially at night :(

2. Are the rear struts threaded and adjustable? Meaning, can I completely thread the strut down into the housing to drop the rear independent of the spring? I can do that now with the set of coils I have but my rears just won't go down any further and I still have a raked look to the car where I want to just sit level front to rear. See the picture of the rear struts on the link below to see what I mean. I can thread the strut down into the strut housing but only "so much", where as I really want to thread it down even more.

I am running this setup (for non-M3) F2 (Function and Form) http://m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=271370

I miiiiiight have that ricer bounce, and I don't really know what causes it. Then again this is my first coilover setup so your definition of "ricer bounce" may be different than what my car feels like.

Also for me, the rear strut doesn't adjust down far enough. I have a ton of room on the spring adjuster to lower the car and my lack of adjustment on the strut isn't limiting me from going lower.

[Transport3r]

If you're struggling with the ricebounce you are underdamped, turn the socks stiffer until it goes away. It takes some trial and error. Go by one click at a time, it might not need much. Structural dynamics are tricky lol

[Taliben]

If you're struggling with the ricebounce you are underdamped, turn the socks stiffer until it goes away. It takes some trial and error. Go by one click at a time, it it not need much. Structural dynamics are tricky lol

I'm on full stiff haha

It's not too bad now but I'm pretty sure it's still there.

[Transport3r]

I'm on full stiff haha

It's not too bad now but I'm pretty sure it's still there.
You might be overdamped then. It will 'bounce' too but not oscillate up and down after the bounce. If you're full stiff it might be bouncing on the tires too. My suggestion is to turn it all the way down and turn it up until it dampens well.

[Taliben]

You might be overdamped then. It will 'bounce' too but not oscillate up and down after the bounce. If you're full stiff it might be bouncing on the tires too. My suggestion is to turn it all the way down and turn it up until it dampens well.

I started at full soft and went from there and the bounce only got better as I cranked it up but it's still there on full stiff. I'll try turning it down to 20 and going from there.

[bullfrogs_M3]

Thanks guys, i'll try to adjust things this weekend and see how it plays out.

Still interested in the group buy if it happens.

[Taliben]

Thanks guys, i'll try to adjust things this weekend and see how it plays out.

Still interested in the group buy if it happens.

I would also take a look at fortune auto coilovers too, even if it's at a little higher price point. Love the look of your car man btw

[az3579]

Can anybody who has had coilovers for a few years AND daily driven their ZHP in the snow/salt report on how the threads are holding up? From what I understand the threads rust out, making adjustments impossible thereafter...

[328ioc]

I think charlie is the only one that can answer that......it doesn't snow often enough in Florida......

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[az3579]

I think charlie is the only one that can answer that......it doesn't snow often enough in Florida......

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Yeah but he's only had the BC on his ZHP for one year, which is his daily driver. I don't know how long he's had the BC on his M3, but his M3 is not daily driven, and most certainly not driven in the snow/salt at present.

[WOLFN8TR]

Posting for Charlie

"BP....the BC's been on my ///M going on 4 years now and the first year they were installed they were driven full-time in the New England winter....snow and all. Threads held up great. You have to grease the threads so they aren't exposed and they will be okay BP :thumbsup

The ZHP has one winter's use on them and are in perfect shape so far :)"

[Vas]

Can anybody who has had coilovers for a few years AND daily driven their ZHP in the snow/salt report on how the threads are holding up? From what I understand the threads rust out, making adjustments impossible thereafter...

I had a set of Tein SS coilovers on my previous car that was daily driven during the winter here in Virginia. Granted it is not as a bad of a winter here but every spring I would clean them up and make sure there was no problems with the seal for the shock, camber plates were clean and greased and etc. IMO coilovers do require a bit more work then a traditional spring/strut set-up as far as maintenance.

[cakM3]

I also have access to a heated stall at the auto hobby shop here at the Naval base where I work so I can wash my ZHP on a weekly basis. When I wash my car during cold winter months, I wash my undercarriage and coilovers to knock off the road salt. Keeping the car clean during winter is key :thumbsup

[TWong1200]

I too, am interested but I am highly considering buying from FCP. Their return policy is hard to resist. If there are any doubts with these BC's, it's good to know that FCP will take them back. I've heard nothing but awesome reviews about them. I've purchased a handful of things from them already but haven't had the need to do any returns/exchanges.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-coilover-kit-e46-i-02br

[WOLFN8TR]

BC Racing Coilover Adjusting Extenders BR Series 25cm- $35

BC Racing extenders, once fitted allow you to control the spring damping on the 2 rear coilovers without having to remove seats or trunk carpet every time.
Pretty much essential if you are constantly changing settings on your BCs.
Only fit BC Coilovers. Supplied in pairs.

http://www.showoffimports.nl/product.php?productid=37176

http://www.bcracing-shop.com/bc-racing-coilover-adjusting-extenders-br-series-25cm.html

http://www.maperformance.com/bc-racing-br-series-coilover-rear-extenders-only.html

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[cakM3]

Been looking for this Gary! Thanks for posting this! :thumbsup

[WOLFN8TR]

Been looking for this Gary! Thanks for posting this! :thumbsup

You Betcha...:cheers

[ELCID86]

I too, am interested but I am highly considering buying from FCP. Their return policy is hard to resist. If there are any doubts with these BC's, it's good to know that FCP will take them back. I've heard nothing but awesome reviews about them. I've purchased a handful of things from them already but haven't had the need to do any returns/exchanges.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-coilover-kit-e46-i-02br

Wow. That is a nice warranty. Thanks Ben.


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[ELCID86]

And those extenders are cool (perhaps with the exception of the rear deck mod...).


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[danewilson77]

I had a set of Tein SS coilovers on my previous car that was daily driven during the winter here in Virginia. Granted it is not as a bad of a winter here but every spring I would clean them up and make sure there was no problems with the seal for the shock, camber plates were clean and greased and etc. IMO coilovers do require a bit more work then a traditional spring/strut set-up as far as maintenance.

Tein makes a great setup. ...

The friendliest forum on the planet.

[az3579]

I too, am interested but I am highly considering buying from FCP. Their return policy is hard to resist. If there are any doubts with these BC's, it's good to know that FCP will take them back. I've heard nothing but awesome reviews about them. I've purchased a handful of things from them already but haven't had the need to do any returns/exchanges.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-coilover-kit-e46-i-02br

FCP is AMAZING. I'm lucky enough to have them about 15 minutes from where I live, with pickup extending to 8PM. :thumbup

[johnrando]

Hmmmmm

[ELCID86]

I need new strut top hats (bearings). Appears those are not needed (built in) with these. True?

Are the strut mushroom protection plates still recommended?

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[cakM3]

I need new strut top hats (bearings). Appears those are not needed (built in) with these. True?

Are the strut mushroom protection plates still recommended?

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True :thumbsup

I didn't use the strut mushroom protection plates on my cars Shawn but you can I suppose. It wouldn't hurt :)

[ELCID86]

True :thumbsup

I didn't use the strut mushroom protection plates on my cars Shawn but you can I suppose. It wouldn't hurt :)
Thanks Charlie. These are looking better and better. Does anyone run them with the Strut Mount Reinforcement Plates. I just want to make sure there is room.
http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-upper-strut-mount-reinforcement-pate-e46-51717036781

[WOLFN8TR]

I installed the plates with my KW's. I would say they would easily fit with these BC's.

[ELCID86]

I installed the plates with my KW's. I would say they would easily fit with these BC's.
Thanks Gary.

[cakM3]

Thanks Charlie. These are looking better and better. Does anyone run them with the Strut Mount Reinforcement Plates. I just want to make sure there is room.
http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-upper-strut-mount-reinforcement-pate-e46-51717036781

You should have no problems Shawn. The bolts are fairly long so you will have plenty of room to fit the reinforcement plates and be able to screw/torque everything down :thumbsup

[328ioc]

Hey guys.

Looks like BC does not do group buys.

Sad face I know. But my contact down here can still order them for anyone who is interested and the price should still be under 1k shipped to your door.

I got them overnight but I am close to BC's NA headquarters so I am not sure if everyone will get next day or not.

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[ELCID86]

From FCP:
"My name is Gareth Foley and I help manage the FCP Euro catalog. I specifically manage the BMW catalog but I also oversee many of the performance parts as well. I just added the adjustment extenders to FCP Euro. Thank you for pointing out that we didn't have them listed. The extenders can be found with the link below:


Adjustment Extenders
http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/br-series-coilover-kit-adjustment-extenders



Anthony DiMartino from our sales department has already send you an email in regards to what you are looking for and he will also assist in any discounts if possible. If you see anything missing from the site please feel free to contact me directly to let me know. I am also happy to assist with any inquiries on coilover specs or custom spring rates. I run the BR series coilovers on my E39 and have done so for the last 3 years. They have been rock solid and I have put close to 30,000 miles on them since. I will also likely put them on my M3 in a few years as well.


In regards to the E46 front strut mount reinforcement plates I think you will be fine when trying to adjust camber using the included camber plates with the BR series coilovers. I know of many people who use the reinforcement plates with other styles of camber plates and they don't have any adjustability issues."

[Transport3r]

Awesome, can fcp offer them with the custom spring rate swift springs option too?

[ELCID86]

FCP may be willing to work with us on a group discount. Though I don't want to dis Devlin's friend.

Can we start an interest list here?

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[328ioc]

Shawn go with who you guys feel comfortable.

I'm just trying to help out where I can.

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[WOLFN8TR]

FCP may be willing to work with us on a group discount. Though I don't want to dis Devlin's friend.

Can we start an interest list here?

Shawn (elcid86) - 1

Thanks for the info Shawn. FCP seems like a stand up business. Definitely interested in seeing what kind of group discount they can offer.

[ELCID86]

Thanks for the info Shawn. FCP seems like a stand up business. Definitely interested in seeing what kind of group discount they can offer.
Can you add your name to the list?

I do see this:
eturning Customer Loyalty Rewards $5 off $149+ Use code: 8uuv79a4
$10 off $199+ Use code: npa8b7lw
$25 off $499+ Use code: mkhv3dsd
$50 off $999+ Use code: 2566mjj3


I'm working with them to see how many ppl it would take.
Also, they do have the extenders: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/br-series-coilover-kit-adjustment-extenders
and plates: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-upper-strut-mount-reinforcement-pate-e46-51717036781

[WOLFN8TR]

Shawn the discount above looks good as it stands, $50 off a set. See what else you can come up with. I can added all this info into Post #1.

[328ioc]

If any one would like to contact my friend and get pricing from him just PM me and I will get you his info.

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[bullfrogs_M3]

I just don't see the use for strut tower reinforcement plates. Then again I don't track the car and I use a strut tower brace. Maybe those that do track their cars need the plates, but I would think that those people who do, also run a good strut brace anyway. At some point I would think redundancy kicks in to the point of being completely moot/nill.

[ELCID86]

If any one would like to contact my friend and get pricing from him just PM me and I will get you his info.

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I would be interested in what he can do for the kit with extenders.

[WOLFN8TR]

Same here. $950 shipped for the BC Coilovers with Extenders!

"Winner Winner Chicken Dinner"

Shawn (elcid86) - 1
Gary (WOLFN8TR) - 1

[Taliben]

Guys if you wanna go really low swift springs are the move, I'd highly recommend them

[WOLFN8TR]

http://vimeo.com/28478078

[TWong1200]

So is that the deal from FCP? $950 shipped with extenders?

[WOLFN8TR]

So is that the deal from FCP? $950 shipped with extenders?

That's the deal I would like to see. Nothing yet...

[danewilson77]

I just don't see the use for strut tower reinforcement plates. Then again I don't track the car and I use a strut tower brace. Maybe those that do track their cars need the plates, but I would think that those people who do, also run a good strut brace anyway. At some point I would think redundancy kicks in to the point of being completely moot/nill.
This is why. You're trying to prevent this. This is my car. I know have the RRK and strut bar.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/26/51a5e6ba13b0880b1f5d271738569fe1.jpg

The friendliest forum on the planet!

[WOLFN8TR]

That's why I bought some, I remember seeing these photos. Plus they are only approx $20.


Highly recommended for vehicles with upgraded suspensions.

The E46 front strut towers are notoriously weak. This reinforcement plate comes from the poor road package and artificially adds another layer of metal to reinforce the strut mounting point on the chassis. If you drive with fresh suspension components at standard ride heights you likely won't have an issue. However, the problem can occur with performance suspensions and this is where these reinforcement plates can help you prevent expensive damage to your E46. Blown shocks and stiff suspensions will cause the sheet metal to pop up due to more energy being transferred.

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[TWong1200]

That's the deal I would like to see. Nothing yet...
I think for a GB, it should be priced better than that. $900 shipped with adjusters is more like it. I was quoted $995 shipped with adjusters from another vendor a few weeks ago.

I would much rather purchase from FCP, though.

BTW, count me in as being interested in a GB with FCP.

Thanks

[WOLFN8TR]

Dane or John for a possible Group Buy do we need to OK this with you guys first?


Here is the cost for the BC Coilovers and adjusters plus Shipping. What is the general consensus of what a fair Group Buy price should be?
1) $900
2) $925
3) $955
4) $975

FCPEURO Price:

BMW BR Series Coilover Kit (E46) - BC Racing I-02BR
$1,000.00

BC Racing BR Series Coilover Kit Adjustment Extenders
$39.95

Subtotal $1,039.95
Total $1,039.95
Shipping Cost:$9.99
UPS® Ground 1-5 Days
Total-$1049.94

"GROUP BUY INTEREST"
-Shawn (elcid86) - 1
-Gary (WOLFN8TR) - 1
-TWong1200- 1



FCPEuro Warranty

We want to make sure you get the right parts and that they meet your expectations from day one and every day thereafter.
We stand so strongly behind the quality of the parts we sell, we're willing to guarantee fitment and guarantee the part, for it's entire life.
First, we make every effort possible to ensure you get the right part the first time. But if you happen to receive a part that doesn't fit, we pay shipping both ways until you're happy.
Second, if a part we have sold to you does not live up to your expectations for any reason at any time, you can send it back for a replacement or a full refund, yup, at any time. So if you think a part did not provide you the value you expected, send it back. Its that simple.
What happens if I need to return a part?
Don't worry, we'll help you out. Download our returns form and fill it out and don't hesitate to give us a ring if we can be of any assistance.

What happens if my part fails in 10 years?
If the part did not meet your expectations send it back and we will refund you or send you a replacement. You can also order a replacement and send your original part to us afterwards, we'll then credit you the cost of your new replacement.

[danewilson77]

That's fine. Go for it.

The friendliest forum on the planet.

[cakM3]

This is awesome for all of you who go into this Group Buy :thumbsup

[WOLFN8TR]

That's fine. Go for it.

The friendliest forum on the planet.

Thank You...


This is awesome for all of you who go into this Group Buy :thumbsup

Hopefully they offer something good, we still have to seal the deal.

[ZHP Dave]

I'd be in.

[TWong1200]

I vote for $900 shipped with adjusters. Thanks for taking this on!

[M0nk3y]

I wouldnt call then budget.....just well priced. They have all the quality without the cost.

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I would.

The money of any suspension kit is contained within the damper. These dampers cannot effectively dampen springs as well as other shocks.

It has probably been proven on shock dynos, but even when you ride in cars with these shocks, there is a difference.

Not hating on the suspension, because it is well priced. Just know what you're getting

[ELCID86]

I think anything at $975 or below would be ok.


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[johnrando]

I would.

The money of any suspension kit is contained within the damper. These dampers cannot effectively dampen springs as well as other shocks.

It has probably been proven on shock dynos, but even when you ride in cars with these shocks, there is a difference.

Not hating on the suspension, because it is well priced. Just know what you're getting
Why is that? What is it missing?

[Avetiso]

Why is that? What is it missing?
Not necessarily missing anything, rather that as the quality of the parts increases, so does cost, which is why other suspension is more expensive. For example, if you look at spring compression graphs for BC springs and other Taiwanese coilovers, you'll see that they can be as much as +-50 pounds per inch off of their advertised rate; that, compared to Swift springs, which test within +-5lbs per inch.

Then there is the damper itself, which is the main part.

I don't think he's saying it's a bad coilover, but that more expensive coilovers are more expensive for a reason and that that premium is worth it when it comes to ride quality.

[WOLFN8TR]

What about a "Tracked car vs Daily Driver" suspension? Most of us will not be buying these for anything but DD, myself included.

[Avetiso]

What about a "Tracked car vs Daily Driver" suspension? Most of us will not be buying these for anything but DD, myself included.
Outside of spring rates, most track suspension has the adjustability to also be used on the street, and with better results.

[johnrando]

But will the dampening rate matter less on a DD or would it still be something to be wary of and therefore better to spend for more quality, or is that just an issue for racing?

[M0nk3y]

But will the dampening rate matter less on a DD or would it still be something to be wary of and therefore better to spend for more quality, or is that just an issue for racing?
Depending on the spring rate, you need a damper that can effectively dampen that spring without over or under oscillation

[WOLFN8TR]

"BC Racing Coilover Reviews"

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1270540-BC-Racing-Coilover-Review

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=922739

[TWong1200]

Bump... Any updates?

[ELCID86]

I'd like to hear compare between these and KW v1.


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[NoVAphotog]

I'd like to hear compare between these and KW v1.


+1

[cakM3]

It would be interesting to hear for sure :thumbsup

[WOLFN8TR]

I'd like to hear compare between these and KW v1.


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Well if I end up getting the BC Racing coilovers my KW V1's are coming off so I would be able to give a comparison.

Shawn did you get a reply from Euro FCP about a group buy price yet?

[Transport3r]

Well if I end up getting the BC Racing coilovers my KW V1's are coming off so I would be able to give a comparison.

Shawn did you get a reply from Euro FCP about a group buy price yet?
Why are the kw's coming off? Are they not doing it for you? Just curious as they would be expected to be better than the BCs..

[TWong1200]

Why are the kw's coming off? Are they not doing it for you? Just curious as they would be expected to be better than the BCs..
+1

[ELCID86]

Well if I end up getting the BC Racing coilovers my KW V1's are coming off so I would be able to give a comparison.

Shawn did you get a reply from Euro FCP about a group buy price yet?

Nothing yet. I'll try again when I get back in town.


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[Smilez]

wonder if bc racing takes vendor applications :shifty

I SHOULD BE and authorized dealer for BC-RACING by later today.

[cakM3]

wonder if bc racing takes vendor applications :shifty

I SHOULD BE and authorized dealer for BC-RACING by later today.

Damn Ray!!! You're making awesome progress! :thumbsup

[Smilez]

BTW I am authorized dealer now. :P

[cakM3]

BTW I am authorized dealer now. :P

Ray....what can you do for pricing for Mafia members? Congrats by the way! :thumbsup

[Smilez]

I can't post any prices on the web. But if there is a group buy ill do what I can.

[WOLFN8TR]

Dam Ray you are on a Roll! Can you shoot me a PM with a price? Also can you do different spring rates? Looking at 8/12.

[TWong1200]

Dam Ray you are on a Roll! Can you shoot me a PM with a price? Also can you do different spring rates? Looking at 8/12.
+1 and I will pick up locally


Also, can you get the adjusters too?

[Smilez]

Dam Ray you are on a Roll! Can you shoot me a PM with a price? Also can you do different spring rates? Looking at 8/12.

I will get you pricing tomorrow.

+1 and I will pick up locally


Also, can you get the adjusters too?

By BC? I have to check their sheet

[WOLFN8TR]

I will get you pricing tomorrow.


By BC? I have to check their sheet

Ray these are from BC, I have them listed on the first page.

[Smilez]

+1 and I will pick up locally


Also, can you get the adjusters too?

i have to contact them direct for the adjusters since they dont list them in my price sheet.


Ray these are from BC, I have them listed on the first page.

what i mean is. I will get YOU a pricing tomorrow :P
I can only "List" them for $1000.


"BR 99-05 3 Series Sedan I-02-BR*
On Order

BR 00-06 3 Series Coupe I-02-BR
Out of Stock"

[Smilez]

Group Buy List

I don't need a specific number amount to purchase to order.

1. TWong1200
2. WOLFN8TR
3.

[Transport3r]

I'm interested in pricing with adjusters as well. Also interested in custom spring rates if that's possible.

[Smilez]

I won't know pricing on adjusters until Monday.

[Smilez]

SORRY GUYS. those peeps never contacted me back for the "adjusters"

[328ioc]

Adjusters can be had for 35-45 on eBay.......just an FYI since they arent playing nice with Ray.

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[WOLFN8TR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA7-zZkSlyw

[poke08]

Whats the difference between he normal springs vs swift springs?

[Smilez]

Basically stiffer

BC racing "Swift Spring upgrade allows every coilover system to be completely customizable, with varying coil diameters, lengths, and spring rates for every conceivable application. These are competition linear-rate springs designed for street or competition use, and can be tailored to nearly any vehicle or purpose."

[poke08]

Basically stiffer

BC racing "Swift Spring upgrade allows every coilover system to be completely customizable, with varying coil diameters, lengths, and spring rates for every conceivable application. These are competition linear-rate springs designed for street or competition use, and can be tailored to nearly any vehicle or purpose."

Gotcha. I just went with the standard ones, don't think i'll need anything that serious.

To the guys running BC's, what do you have the damping settings at for the front/rear? and do I just turn the knobs while the car is on the ground to adjust?

[Taliben]

Gotcha. I just went with the standard ones, don't think i'll need anything that serious.

To the guys running BC's, what do you have the damping settings at for the front/rear? and do I just turn the knobs while the car is on the ground to adjust?
I think I'm around 20 all around, too much more than that and you'll start to see some ricer bounce. And yeah that's how you do it.

[poke08]

I think I'm around 20 all around, too much more than that and you'll start to see some ricer bounce. And yeah that's how you do it.

Is that 20 starting from the completely soft end?

[328ioc]

I am running 15 all around so dead center.

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[Taliben]

Is that 20 starting from the completely soft end?

Yeah 20 starting from soft

[poke08]

Yeah 20 starting from soft

Gotcha. I dialed it in earlier and it feels a lot better than before. I might go up one of two clicks after I lower it so its a little more firm.

[Jconlin16]

Is it too late to join the group buy?! haha

I will be buying these soon!

[WOLFN8TR]

Is it too late to join the group buy?! haha

I will be buying these soon!

It never happened. On two or three were interested. [emoji15]

[Jconlin16]

No worries. Smilez gave me a great price!


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[WOLFN8TR]

Awesome!

[danewilson77]

Awesome!
+1

"No flamesuit required"

[cakM3]

Awesome!

+2

[WOLFN8TR]

Bump...

[Smilez]

can't wait to see Jcomlin16 posts pictures :D

[danewilson77]

can't wait to see Jcomlin16 posts pictures :D
+1

"No flamesuit required"

[Jconlin16]

Will definitely post up pics when it is all finished! Just waiting for a few months for the snow to melt. Thanks again Ray!


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[WOLFN8TR]

Pic's??

I just snagged a set of the these extended adjusters for $25 shipped. Next will be some Coilovers!

18222

[cakM3]

Pic's??

I just snagged a set of the these extended adjusters for $25 shipped. Next will be some Coilovers!

18222

YES ! ! ! ! !

Thanks for the link Gary! I now have my sets coming :)

[WOLFN8TR]

Thanks for the link Gary! I now have my sets coming :)

Nice!

Hey Charlie on you're ZHP how low can you adjust the suspension compared to the ///M? I noticed you went with the shorter Swift racing springs on the ///M. After you set the preload do you lower the ride height by lowering the upper half of the strut into the lower housing?

[Ssparrow]

Really tempted to order me a set of these. Or STs. Any long term reviews out there?


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[cakM3]

Nice!

Hey Charlie on you're ZHP how low can you adjust the suspension compared to the ///M? I noticed you went with the shorter Swift racing springs on the ///M. After you set the preload do you lower the ride height by lowering the upper half of the strut into the lower housing?

Yes, if I remember correctly this is what we did when my ///M and ZHP was lowered :thumbsup

@ Ssparrow: I've had BC Racing coils on my ///M going on 4 years now and love these. For the money you can't go wrong and these come with front camber adjustment plates. From the BC Racing superstore for $999 shipped to your door. Can't go wrong :thumbsup

[slater]

Pic's??

I just snagged a set of the these extended adjusters for $25 shipped. Next will be some Coilovers!

18222

gary, are these for the rear shocks?

peter

[WOLFN8TR]

gary, are these for the rear shocks?

peter

Yes Sir...

[slater]

thanks, gary. kinda interested in these as i like the design of having the adjustable bodies, and having adjustable damping - plus the E46 M3 kit spring rates (446F/670R).

i do not like the 1-year warranty, however - to me, it says something about the quality of the components. when you look at bilstein, they lifetime-warranty their dampers (to the original purchaser). THAT says something about confidence in their product.

hmmm.

peter

[cakM3]

i do not like the 1-year warranty, however - to me, it says something about the quality of the components. when you look at bilstein, they lifetime-warranty their dampers (to the original purchaser). THAT says something about confidence in their product.

hmmm.

peter


Yes, this is the only drawback to getting the BC Racing coilovers but their pricing is killer. I have had these on my M3 going on 4 years now and have been pleased with their performance overall. :)

I agree that with Bilstein's you have their lifetime warranty and that is one thing to consider when purchasing coilovers. I agree with your statement Peter :thumbsup

[WOLFN8TR]

FCPEURO Price:

BMW BR Series Coilover Kit (E46) - BC Racing I-02BR
$1,000.00

BC Racing BR Series Coilover Kit Adjustment Extenders
$39.95

Subtotal $1,039.95
Total $1,039.95
Shipping Cost:$9.99
UPS[emoji768] Ground 1-5 Days
Total-$1049.94

FCPEuro Warranty

We want to make sure you get the right parts and that they meet your expectations from day one and every day thereafter.
We stand so strongly behind the quality of the parts we sell, we're willing to guarantee fitment and guarantee the part, for it's Entire Life.

First, we make every effort possible to ensure you get the right part the first time. But if you happen to receive a part that doesn't fit, we pay shipping both ways until you're happy.
Second, if a part we have sold to you does not live up to your expectations for any reason at any time, you can send it back for a replacement or a full refund, yup, at any time. So if you think a part did not provide you the value you expected, send it back. Its that simple.

What happens if I need to return a part?
Don't worry, we'll help you out. Download our returns form and fill it out and don't hesitate to give us a ring if we can be of any assistance.

What happens if my part fails in 10 years?
If the part did not meet your expectations send it back and we will refund you or send you a replacement. You can also order a replacement and send your original part to us afterwards, we'll then credit you the cost of your new replacement.

[slater]

Yes, this is the only drawback to getting the BC Racing coilovers but their pricing is killer. I have had these on my M3 going on 4 years now and have been pleased with their performance overall. :)

I agree that with Bilstein's you have their lifetime warranty and that is one thing to consider when purchasing coilovers. I agree with your statement Peter :thumbsup

thanks charlie. positive first-hand experience is always a good thing! i agree on the pricing.

the ST coilovers are around the same price and i really liked their product when i used it on my last audi, albeit the rear spring rates were much too soft - that is one nice thing about the BC 'BR' kit for the M3 - the 8k/12k (446F/670R) rates seem very well-suited to the ZHP's factory handling balance (just maybe a tad stiffer).

i'm on the fence between this product and the bilstein 'B12' kit (bilstein sport dampers - which are shorter than stock - and eibach springs). the adjustability of the BC's appeals to my fiddly nature, but the 'set and forget' and lifetime warranty of the bilstein setup likely aligns with my wife's desires - less time spent fiddling with the car. :) haha.

peter

[slater]

FCPEURO Price:

BMW BR Series Coilover Kit (E46) - BC Racing I-02BR
$1,000.00

BC Racing BR Series Coilover Kit Adjustment Extenders
$39.95

Subtotal $1,039.95
Total $1,039.95
Shipping Cost:$9.99
UPS[emoji768] Ground 1-5 Days
Total-$1049.94

FCPEuro Warranty

We want to make sure you get the right parts and that they meet your expectations from day one and every day thereafter.
We stand so strongly behind the quality of the parts we sell, we're willing to guarantee fitment and guarantee the part, for it's Entire Life.

First, we make every effort possible to ensure you get the right part the first time. But if you happen to receive a part that doesn't fit, we pay shipping both ways until you're happy.
Second, if a part we have sold to you does not live up to your expectations for any reason at any time, you can send it back for a replacement or a full refund, yup, at any time. So if you think a part did not provide you the value you expected, send it back. Its that simple.

What happens if I need to return a part?
Don't worry, we'll help you out. Download our returns form and fill it out and don't hesitate to give us a ring if we can be of any assistance.

What happens if my part fails in 10 years?
If the part did not meet your expectations send it back and we will refund you or send you a replacement. You can also order a replacement and send your original part to us afterwards, we'll then credit you the cost of your new replacement.

wow, thanks gary. i wonder how well they stand behind that, in actual practice? not wanting to doubt, but sometimes when something is too good to be true... ;)

peter

[cakM3]

Peter, I have heard nothing but good things about FCPEuro. :thumbsup

[slater]

FCPEURO Price:

BMW BR Series Coilover Kit (E46) - BC Racing I-02BR
$1,000.00
[/B]

gary, i just noticed that you selected the non-M3 kit... if you're going to order from them, you should select this kit:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-coilover-kit-m3-e46-i-14

i also spotted this on their website:

"Just note that due to credit card requirements refunds after 90 days must be in the form of FCP store credits"



Peter, I have heard nothing but good things about FCPEuro. :thumbsup

excellent. i was considering ordering my new windshield from them but they won't ship it... i'd have to pick it up.

peter

[WOLFN8TR]

gary, i just noticed that you selected the non-M3 kit... if you're going to order from them, you should select this kit:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-coilover-kit-m3-e46-i-14

I copied that from the first page of the thread. This info was from when I had a ZHP. Thanks for the link thou.

[ELCID86]

Any updates on these? Who has 'em now?

[WOLFN8TR]

Not Me...

[BADCLOWN]

A friend just put them on his M3 and he loves them so far. Ill be ordering mine when the tax return comes back

[WOLFN8TR]

A friend just put them on his M3 and he loves them so far. Ill be ordering mine when the tax return comes back

Me too after I pay off my Tax debt...[emoji51]

[cakM3]

A friend just put them on his M3 and he loves them so far.

Really???


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[BADCLOWN]

Yeah, I didn't hear any initial complaints out of him. Why?

[cakM3]

Yeah, I didn't hear any initial complaints out of him. Why?

I've had BC Racing coils on my ///M for about 4 years now.... for the money you can't beat using them. I have them on my ZHP as well...

[BADCLOWN]

okay, i thought you said "really?" in terms of having, personally, a bad experience with them on your M.

[ZHP Dave]

I put them on my ZHP about 10k miles ago. I have the Swift Spring upgrade and have ZERO complaints.

[WOLFN8TR]

What is the difference with the "Swift Spring" upgrade?

[BADCLOWN]

What is the difference with the "Swift Spring" upgrade?

I was wondering the same, i had someone suggest that "upgrade" to me..........

[cakM3]

No complaints using BC Racing coilovers :thumbsup


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[Jconlin16]

When I ordered my set for my '03 ZHP from Ray (smilez) they came labeled for an e46 M3.

"E46 M and non M are the same kit. We send the M now because the spring rates work better with both M and non M versions. The only difference is the 12k rear spring as opposed to the 10k rear spring on the I-02 non-M kit.

Regards,
Taylor"

This was the message Ray received after asking if it was the correct set for my car.

[WOLFN8TR]

Good info but there is a"Swift Spring" upgrade. This option runs approx $350 more.

I do believe you are going from a Progressive rate spring to a Linear spring.

http://blog.modbargains.com/linear-rate-vs-progressive-springs-whats-best-4-street/

NOW OFFERING SWIFT SPRING UPGRADE OPTION
SWIFT Bronze Metric Coilover Springs are highly linear, fewer winding springs that reduce unsprung weight and increase performance. Swift springs are special order and assembled onto your shocks with proper preload. Please allow 3 weeks.
for more information look here. This details the H5S.TW material that sets Swift apart from the competition. We suggest Swift springs on any vehicle that will see the track due to the unsprung weight and predictability. The dailiy driven street cars these springs are probably overkill.

BC Coilovers are now available with SWIFT springs as additional option for your BCs. For those of you who demand a higher quality spring for street and track.

These are the flagship product that made Swift a regular name in some of the most prestigious race series around the world. From Formula Nippon to Le Mans, these innovative products continue to make Swift a staple in the racing industry.

Through the input of numerous race teams from across the globe, it was apparent that there was still room to improve upon the conventional racing spring. Swift engineers spent countless hours conducting research, developing and testing the springs in order to create the perfect racing spring.

The Swift engineers and in-house metallurgists were able to formulate a unique blend of metals they have named H5S.TW, this unique alloy hosts a wide range of benefits and virtually zero drawbacks. The end result was the creation of the Swift Metric Coilover springs.

The Swift Spring upgrade at the time of purchase with the initial set of BC Racing Coilovers is $260.00 on top of standard coilovers.

Swift Spring Technical Advantages

Swift proprietary material along with advanced cold winding process allows Swift springs to be manufactured using a thinner wire diameter with fewer coils making the springs the lightest magnetic metal springs available on the market.

Swift Accuracy

Swift Metric Coilover springs feature the highest linearity of any spring out there. Along with the widest stroke range possible, the springs stay linear throughout MORE of the usable stroke range compared to anything else out there. Swift guarantees the spring rate accuracy to be +/- 2% within the advertised spring rate!

Industry leading spring response

Swifts superior spring compression speed responds much quicker over undulating road surfaces so the tires have a lesser tendency to skip. This enables the tire to stay in contact with the road, improving traction and helps keep tire temperatures down.

[Ssparrow]

I've been debating on these and the ST xta's for a while now and I still can't decided

These do look pretty nice though...

[BADCLOWN]

i wonder how much of a difference those make.........

[ZHP Dave]

I haven't ridden in a 330 with standard BC coils, so I can't directly compare. A friend had BCs on his 2013 WRX wagon and even though I'm lower, mine rides better than his car did. Since the ZHP is my daily I wanted the best possible ride I could get, so I spent the extra on the upgrade. For $1,300 I can't complain at all. I Was looking at the STs as well, but I liked the fact that you get camber plates with the BCs. I don't remember measurements, but at the front my fender is right at the top of the tire, and my rears are a few mm below the tire......so I needed camber correction.

[ZHP Dave]

Also look into Fortune Auto. They are assembled here and you can pick and choose valving and spring rates if your heart desires. Also serviceable here in the US with quick turnaround times. They can also be upgraded to 2 or 3 way in the future of your needs change. The S2000 Will be getting the 510s when I redo the suspension on that car.

[Smilez]

If you need the BC coils or ST coils just let me know. $350 for swift sprint upgrade lol, ill do far less. :D

[slater]

i wonder how much of a difference those make.........

well, technically speaking they are lighter, and within 2% accuracy of the advertised rate - that's worth paying for alone.

the stock BC springs 'look' linear (fronts anyway), the rears are barrel-type springs so they could be slightly progressive. linear offers more predictable response, however some folks think they aren't very comfy - personally i prefer them.



I haven't ridden in a 330 with standard BC coils, so I can't directly compare. A friend had BCs on his 2013 WRX wagon and even though I'm lower, mine rides better than his car did.

i think that has more to do with your longer wheelbase than the lighter springs. the ZHP has a 5" longer wheelbase than my previous car (2001 Audi A4 Avant), and it rides MUCH better. the WRX likely is similar in wheelbase length to the audi due to AWD packaging similarities.



If you need the BC coils or ST coils just let me know. $350 for swift sprint upgrade lol, ill do far less. :D

how much less, ray?? :)

peter

[Smilez]

can't publicly say. pm me

[Ssparrow]

Do the BCs require shorter end links? Anyone know?

[ZHP Dave]

They come with shorter front end links.

[WOLFN8TR]

Do the BCs require shorter end links? Anyone know?

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[BADCLOWN]

PM sent to smilez........i wish my tax return would show up

[Smilez]

I did my taxes over a month ago. They audit and sent new information. And still no return. :(

[WOLFN8TR]

What's a Return? [emoji15]
Congrats Jacob!

[Ssparrow]

Just ordered myself a set today through brakeyourself.com. Thanks smilez!

I'm too excited to install these bad boys

[WOLFN8TR]

Sweet! Feedback and photos when installed!

[Ssparrow]

Received my set today! Installing them tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how it goes http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/27/3535b988e6b9b870f4f224831101f21e.jpg

[WOLFN8TR]

Nice!
Guys posts your photos...

[Ssparrow]

Okay so I have a few questions in hoping I can get answered before I install these bad boys. Regarding the rear shocks, it seems the actual shock bodies are adjustable as well as the adjusters on the springs. The instructions say to adjust both of these at the same time. Kind of confused as to how I adjust the actual shock so it's at the right height. Did you guys mess with the shock adjustment at all or did you just bolt them on?

Sorry suspension stuff isn't my strong point so hopefully this makes sense to you guys.

Here's the instructions also. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/27/2cdfce7070ade324633a3f98513915e0.jpg

[danewilson77]

The shock will not adjust height. Use the adjustable perches to adjust height and make sure each shock is equally dampened.

"No flamesuit required"

[danewilson77]

Ok...reading the instructions, it looks like the lower fastening point can be adjusted. I'd just make sure they are equally adjusted maybe half way of the entire travel.

"No flamesuit required"

[danewilson77]

Additionally....keep in mind you've bought an adjustable system. It will need to be tweaked.

You're not a suspension guru now....but you will soon be Grasshopper.

"No flamesuit required"

[Ssparrow]

Okay it's starting to make sense now. After doing some research it looks like the rear springs need to be "preloaded" which is where that adjuster on the bottom of the shock comes in play (I think). I'm sure it'll all make a lot more sense when I'm actually doing the install. Anyone else have some more input?

Thanks Dane!

[poke08]

Okay it's starting to make sense now. After doing some research it looks like the rear springs need to be "preloaded" which is where that adjuster on the bottom of the shock comes in play (I think). I'm sure it'll all make a lot more sense when I'm actually doing the install. Anyone else have some more input?

Thanks Dane!

Thats how I lowered mine. I adjusted the one on the spring and the one on the shock.

[ELCID86]

Where'd you get the spring compressor?


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[ELCID86]

Pic's??

I just snagged a set of the these extended adjusters for $25 shipped. Next will be some Coilovers!


Still have them?


Will definitely post up pics when it is all finished! Just waiting for a few months for the snow to melt. Thanks again Ray!


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:foottap And...?


Received my set today! Installing them tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how it goes

:foottap And...?

[Ssparrow]

Whoops! Installation wasn't to bad. The only thing that was tricky was getting the old rear springs out. I've been driving on them for about a week now and they feel great! Only complaint I have is i seem to have the "ricer bounce" that I'm still trying to get figured out. But with a little tinkering I should be able to get it worked out.

[ELCID86]

^ glad you are liking them. Hope you can lose the bounce! Pics in your project thread?

[Taliben]

Whoops! Installation wasn't to bad. The only thing that was tricky was getting the old rear springs out. I've been driving on them for about a week now and they feel great! Only complaint I have is i seem to have the "ricer bounce" that I'm still trying to get figured out. But with a little tinkering I should be able to get it worked out.

What spring rates are you running? When I installed mine I had to shorten the strut almost all the way to even get it to bolt up because my rear spring was so short.

[WOLFN8TR]

Still have them?

Yes I do. Why?

[Ssparrow]

I'm running the m3 setup so I think it's 8kg front and 12kg in the rear. I did shorten the rear shock a little bit but I've thinking of shorting it a little more

[ELCID86]

Yes I do. Why?

If you're not using them I thought I make take them off your hands if I get something to hook them too!


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[Taliben]

I'm running the m3 setup so I think it's 8kg front and 12kg in the rear. I did shorten the rear shock a little bit but I've thinking of shorting it a little more

Okay, I'm on the same rates but they're the Swift ones so they may be shorter. What's your dampening set at?

[Ssparrow]

Okay, I'm on the same rates but they're the Swift ones so they may be shorter. What's your dampening set at?

I'm running 15 up front and 10 in the rear. I've thought about going up a few clicks in the rear to see if it helps

[WOLFN8TR]

If you're not using them I thought I make take them off your hands if I get something to hook them too!

Ok if you want them sure. It might be awhile until I bet my BC's. I paid $25 shipped for them.

[ELCID86]

Ok if you want them sure. It might be awhile until I bet my BC's. I paid $25 shipped for them.

Sorry, do you plan to go BC on your M?


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[WOLFN8TR]

Yes but it might be in the Fall. The IRS has all my Mod money for the time being. [emoji15]

[Jconlin16]

:foottap And...?

Planning a day with my buddy to install these hasn't been easy! I usually work weekends [emoji58]

We'll figure it out soon though!

[Taliben]

I'm running 15 up front and 10 in the rear. I've thought about going up a few clicks in the rear to see if it helps

And you're bouncy at that setting? When I was at the lower end of the settings the car felt really floaty. I'm at full stiff right now if that's saying anything, but my height is adjusted pretty low.

[Ssparrow]

It's not as bad anymore, I was running 20 all the way around and it was awful. I'm completely bottomed out in the rear also.

[Jconlin16]

Have any of you guys had your pillow ball mounts go bad? If so, what were the symptoms? I think mine may be... I have some clunking up front that's been going on for awhile. I've tightened the top nut, adjusted preload, loosened and retightened all bolts that I could, with no luck.

[slater]

clunking for sure, as any excess movement in a spherical bearing will make noise. it could also be a bad strut, or swaybar endlink, or ball joint.

[Jconlin16]

Thanks slater. I should mention that it is most noticeable at low speeds. Going over bumps on the freeway doesn't feel as rough. I've checked end links and ball joints as well.

[Ssparrow]

Thanks slater. I should mention that it is most noticeable at low speeds. Going over bumps on the freeway doesn't feel as rough. I've checked end links and ball joints as well.

I too have been dealing with a "clunk" up front. It's been going on for a month or two and haven't really been able to figure it out. The ride is unusually rough too. I knew it would be stiff a stiff ride, but some times it's a little extreme.

[ZacharyMikel]

I am actually having issues with my driver's side front clunking. Just replaced my fcabs and rtabs, adjusted preload, checked camber plate, and the clunk noise is still there at low speeds. I'm going to constant BC and see if they have any tips or if the whole strut needs replaced.


But other than that, I love my set! They're amazing!

[Jconlin16]

It's been really frustrating, I did enjoy the ride before the clunks started to occur though. The "loose" feeling is the part that annoys me the most. I contacted bc racing and they sent me a troubleshooting guide through email, I'm planning on taking it apart and double checking everything when I get some time.

[slater]

I too have been dealing with a "clunk" up front. It's been going on for a month or two and haven't really been able to figure it out. The ride is unusually rough too. I knew it would be stiff a stiff ride, but some times it's a little extreme.


I am actually having issues with my driver's side front clunking. Just replaced my fcabs and rtabs, adjusted preload, checked camber plate, and the clunk noise is still there at low speeds. I'm going to constant BC and see if they have any tips or if the whole strut needs replaced.


But other than that, I love my set! They're amazing!


It's been really frustrating, I did enjoy the ride before the clunks started to occur though. The "loose" feeling is the part that annoys me the most. I contacted bc racing and they sent me a troubleshooting guide through email, I'm planning on taking it apart and double checking everything when I get some time.

sounds like you're not the only one having issues with BC coilovers, based on the above comments.

a 'loose' feeling could definitely be a bad strut. it would also make noise. curious to see what you find, and how BC deals with it.

[rguti153]

Any verdict of this

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[ZacharyMikel]

Any verdict of this

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My clunking noise was due to a loose bolt on my front sway bar *facepalm*

Still need to get ahold of BC to replace my blown front end link. No clunking noises as of right now.


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[rguti153]

My clunking noise was due to a loose bolt on my front sway bar *facepalm*

Still need to get ahold of BC to replace my blown front end link. No clunking noises as of right now.


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sounds fair just wondering

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[Jconlin16]

Haven't figured mine out yet, hasn't felt as rough as it was before during the colder days though.

[ef_michael]

Hey guys. Just need some guidance with these bc coils for my zhp sedan. What spring rates do you guys recommend? 8k and 10k? Or 12k? Are the swift Springs worth the extra couple hundred? This is only a daily. If anything she may see the track once or twice. Nothing serious. But at the same time, I want a nice quality ride. I'm planning on going low. Not super low, but tucking a little bit of tire. I'll also be in 19in wheels if that makes a difference.

Thanks guys!

[BADCLOWN]

I've heard the swift spring upgrade is a necessity/something you will regret if you don't get it

[slater]

Hey guys. Just need some guidance with these bc coils for my zhp sedan. What spring rates do you guys recommend? 8k and 10k? Or 12k? Are the swift Springs worth the extra couple hundred? This is only a daily. If anything she may see the track once or twice. Nothing serious. But at the same time, I want a nice quality ride. I'm planning on going low. Not super low, but tucking a little bit of tire. I'll also be in 19in wheels if that makes a difference.

Thanks guys!

with your goals stated (19" wheels, 'tucking tire', and wanting good ride quality) - you're going to have to make a compromise. those things do not work well together. either forget about handling and ride quality, or go with 17s/18s and a taller ride height.

based on the spring failures we've seen recently on here, i would say, yes, it is a necessity to go with the swift springs. the other thing is - for similar money, you could get a Ground Control kit, or a bilstein PSS kit - both of which will have better damping (and i suspect MUCH better build quality).

for spring rates, i would choose 8K and 12K - are there more options?

[09mageec]

I'm running BC's. Has anyone received (what I think might be) the wrong camber adjustment plates? Last year when I got them, the plates that came with them were triangular instead of the circular ones that I would think should have come instead. When I called BC they assured me that this was the "set up that e46 drivers were using now". Did I get B.S.'d because I really think I did...

Also thinking about upgrading to the swift springs. Anyone who's had both want to chime in on the difference?

[ef_michael]

Thanks for the input! I understand the compromise. But I don't think the ride as to be horrible though right? Just something decent with the setup I plan on having. Also, I'm ordering from the north American website and the 8k, 12k spring rate is available for the e46m. Could I order the m3 coils? Would they work for my zhp?

[ZacharyMikel]

I'm running BC's. Has anyone received (what I think might be) the wrong camber adjustment plates? Last year when I got them, the plates that came with them were triangular instead of the circular ones that I would think should have come instead. When I called BC they assured me that this was the "set up that e46 drivers were using now". Did I get B.S.'d because I really think I did...

Also thinking about upgrading to the swift springs. Anyone who's had both want to chime in on the difference?

I just put my BC's on last August, and they came with circular camber plates. I'm freaking out reading all these posts about upgrading to Swift springs, I had better go check mine for rust soon. I went with the 8kg/12kg springs. They ride excellent.

[poke08]

Thanks for the input! I understand the compromise. But I don't think the ride as to be horrible though right? Just something decent with the setup I plan on having. Also, I'm ordering from the north American website and the 8k, 12k spring rate is available for the e46m. Could I order the m3 coils? Would they work for my zhp?

Yes, they'll work on the ZHP. Those are what I ran on mine.

[Ssparrow]

Anyone know where to purchase the swift springs from? My springs are starting to rust pretty bad on my BCs. Only been installed for about 14k too... Other than that, I have no complaints! I'm running the 8/12k spring rates too


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[09mageec]

I just put my BC's on last August, and they came with circular camber plates. I'm freaking out reading all these posts about upgrading to Swift springs, I had better go check mine for rust soon. I went with the 8kg/12kg springs. They ride excellent.

I have yet to do any reading. What exactly seems to be happening with the springs that come on the coils?

Thanks again for emailing me all the info on your wheel setup btw.. I'm gonna need to update my signature pic too lol. Think I may be pulling on a used set of BBS LM's though man..

[ZacharyMikel]

I have yet to do any reading. What exactly seems to be happening with the springs that come on the coils?

Thanks again for emailing me all the info on your wheel setup btw.. I'm gonna need to update my signature pic too lol. Think I may be pulling on a used set of BBS LM's though man..

No problem dude! & hey, you build your car the way that makes YOU happy! BBS LM's are baller and you know it. Either way it will look sick.

[09mageec]

No problem dude! & hey, you build your car the way that makes YOU happy! BBS LM's are baller and you know it. Either way it will look sick.

I know and I've wanted LM's since I got the car in 2011, red and silver center caps, lussssshh :happyspidey

How about those springs though? Are they just rusting and cracking prematurely?

[ZacharyMikel]

I know and I've wanted LM's since I got the car in 2011, red and silver center caps, lussssshh :happyspidey

How about those springs though? Are they just rusting and cracking prematurely?

Some people have had issues with slight rust. I've got to jack my car up and examine them to see... I seriously doubt mine are rusted as they don't salt the roads here and it's Idaho, desert status. But I'm going to check this weekend. I'll let you know.

[09mageec]

They salt/treat the piss out of the roads in CT... I have a nice undercarriage hose extension that I use every time they do, but you never know..

[Jconlin16]

Hey guys. Just need some guidance with these bc coils for my zhp sedan. What spring rates do you guys recommend? 8k and 10k? Or 12k? Are the swift Springs worth the extra couple hundred? This is only a daily. If anything she may see the track once or twice. Nothing serious. But at the same time, I want a nice quality ride. I'm planning on going low. Not super low, but tucking a little bit of tire. I'll also be in 19in wheels if that makes a difference.

Thanks guys!

I am currently running BC's with swift springs. I originally ran them with the BC springs (8k/12k) but I wasn't happy with them and noticed that they were starting to rust after only 9ish months on them. (I live in MN and they really salt the roads here [emoji35])

After upgrading to swift springs (8k/10k), they ride really well. The ride is smoother and the car feels very planted. I highly recommend upgrading to the swift springs!

[ef_michael]

So you didn't need anything at all? It was a direct fit even though it was meant for the m3? Also, excuse this question but does the higher spring rate mean it'll be stiffer in the rear in comparison to the set made for the zhp?

[ef_michael]

I am currently running BC's with swift springs. I originally ran them with the BC springs (8k/12k) but I wasn't happy with them and noticed that they were starting to rust after only 9ish months on them. (I live in MN and they really salt the roads here [emoji35])

After upgrading to swift springs (8k/10k), they ride really well. The ride is smoother and the car feels very planted. I highly recommend upgrading to the swift springs!


What did you not like about the 12k in the rear? I'm planning on going moderately low. Not super low tho. Would 12k be necessary. Would I have a better ride with the higher spring rate?

[cakM3]

I am currently running BC's with swift springs. I originally ran them with the BC springs (8k/12k) but I wasn't happy with them and noticed that they were starting to rust after only 9ish months on them. (I live in MN and they really salt the roads here [emoji35])

After upgrading to swift springs (8k/10k), they ride really well. The ride is smoother and the car feels very planted. I highly recommend upgrading to the swift springs!

I will be ordering my swift springs for both cars soon.... can't wait to get them installed :)

[Jconlin16]

What did you not like about the 12k in the rear? I'm planning on going moderately low. Not super low tho. Would 12k be necessary. Would I have a better ride with the higher spring rate?

I live in Minnesota and the roads that I travel on often are pretty rough. I just felt that changing to a lower spring rate would be a little more beneficial for my car.


I will be ordering my swift springs for both cars soon.... can't wait to get them installed :)

You'll be glad you did, I sure am!

[WOLFN8TR]

I finally snagged a pair of BC Coilovers. I got a slightly used set with 8,000 miles on them for $750 and it came with an extra new rear shock! I'm still on the original suspension at 107K so this should be a nice upgrade and I will slightly lower the car to level out the rear.

Swift Spring Upgrade is approx $320

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=778203

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?13884-BC-Racing-BR-Type-Coilovers&p=423291#post423291 (http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?13884-BC-Racing-BR-Type-Coilovers&p=423291#post423291)

http://www.bcracingdirect.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=292&virtuemart_category_id=54&Itemid=351




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[cakM3]

Congrats Gary! :thumbsup

[WOLFN8TR]

Congrats Gary! :thumbsup


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[BADCLOWN]

Gotta love a decent deal.

[WOLFN8TR]

Gotta love a decent deal.

Ya that's why I decided to snag these. He was asking $650 plus shipping. I figured shipping would be around 60-80 but it was $100!!!

[Johnmadd]

Nice :thumbsup

[johnrando]

Sweet!

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[jonnyd330]

Is brakeyourself.com out of business? Anyone have another connection to get a set of BC coilovers with swift springs?

[Smilez]

i'm not out. just very little time to focus on her.

[danewilson77]

i'm not out. just very little time to focus on her.
Ray,

The question is, should we leave you alone, or continue to score sweet deals from you? :cigar

Is brakeyourself.com out of business? Anyone have another connection to get a set of BC coilovers with swift springs?


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[jonnyd330]

Has anyone purchased BC Racing coilovers from FPC Euro with the Swift Springs upgrade?

[rguti153]

I purchased the coilovers from fpc but not with swift Springs. And I'm having trouble with my rear one right now , I have aloud ass clank like something is loose

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[jonnyd330]

I purchased the coilovers from fpc but not with swift Springs. And I'm having trouble with my rear one right now , I have aloud ass clank like something is loose

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I will be curious to hear what it is and if FCP in fact honors their lifetime warranty.

[rguti153]

I purchase the coilovers in may of last year , I have to send them an email see what they can do

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