BMW E46 330i ZHP O2 Oxygen Sensors

[danewilson77]

So.....I have been wanting to pull the trigger on new pre-cat O2 sensors.

Here is a link to Amazon for the O2 sensors I was looking at...Great price.

EDIT: I bought these. These are the correct ones:

1 - Bosch 17215 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment (http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&bc1=000000&IS2=1&bg1=FFFFFF&fc1=000000&lc1=0000FF&t=zhpcom-20&o=1&p=8&l=as4&m=amazon&f=ifr&asins=B000CF3WOY)
1 - Bosch 17216 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment (http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&bc1=000000&IS2=1&bg1=FFFFFF&fc1=000000&lc1=0000FF&t=zhpcom-20&o=1&p=8&l=as4&m=amazon&f=ifr&asins=B000CF3WPI)

BMW P/N I need are 11787523434 and 11787523435

from http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=EV53&mospid=47725&btnr=11_3555&hg=11&fg=50

[az3579]

I confirmed those parts numbers on Pelican Parts. Their part numbers are always up to snuff.

[danewilson77]

Bump

Understood BP.....but are the Bosch's I have in the Amazon link the right ones.

[az3579]

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Understood BP.....but are the Bosch's I have in the Amazon link the right ones.

That is a negative. The one in the Amazon link you provided is for pre 3/2003 models, and those are post-cat sensors.
The Bosch Part #'s for what you need (pre-cat O2 sensors, post 03/2003) are 17215 (bank 1, cylinders 1-3) and 17216 (bank 2, cylinders 4-6).




Info obtained from Turner Motorsport.

[danewilson77]

Thanks bro....

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[danewilson77]

That is a negative. The one in the Amazon link you provided is for pre 3/2003 models, and those are post-cat sensors.
The Bosch Part #'s for what you need (pre-cat O2 sensors, post 03/2003) are 17215 (bank 1, cylinders 1-3) and 17216 (bank 2, cylinders 4-6).




Info obtained from Turner Motorsport.

So what is the diff between the 17215 and 16?

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[az3579]

I already outlined that, DW... :)
17215 is for bank 1 (aka BMW Part # 11-78-7-523-434)
17216 is for bank 2 (aka BMW Part # 11-78-7-523-435)
You have 2 pre-cat O2 sensors and 2 post-cat. (1) O2 sensor for each bank of 3 cylinders.

Bosch has two different part numbers for those sensors. Don't know why but it is what it is.



Here is the problem. Whenever I google the Bosch Part #'s, the connector on it I think seems different than the one on the E46. This is why I would order based on a BMW part # and not a Bosch one, because then it's guaranteed to fit.

[danewilson77]

Yeah.....roger that. Just didn't wanna pay double/triple the price.

My question was...could I buy 2 of the 17215's since Amazon doesn't have the other one? I doubt there is any difference between the two of them.

[MrMaico]

If I had to guess I'd think the difference between the 17215 and 17216 is just the length of the connector wire?

EDIT: Or maybe not, they both say 1010mm which I'm assuming is the wire length?

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BN53&mospid=47713&btnr=11_3555&hg=11&fg=50&hl=1

EDIT 2: 1010mm is 40 inches though, are the connector wires really that long?:dunno

[danewilson77]

I think you could buy 2 of the 15's and call it a day.

I just don't want it to turn into a PITA. I don't have time for that.

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[Marcus-SanDiego]

My guess is that they're identical. But because they are on different banks they get different part numbers.

EDIT: but who knows.

[danewilson77]

Concur.....I think I'll pick up two if I can find them on amazon....

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[MrMaico]

Definitely some differences in looks AND price between the two. Still quite a bit cheaper than the BMW ones though. I think if it were me I would get both p/n's just to be safe.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fpart-finder%2Fslide-show%2F2004%2FBMW%2F330i%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Dau_p f_dp_lf_ladp_1_3%26partsNode%3D15730891%26carId%3D 003&tag=zhpcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957

[danewilson77]

Thanks MM

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[mikeyb74]

The plugs are different.

17 215

http://www.bavauto.com/assets/imglib500/17215.jpg

17 216

http://www.bavauto.com/assets/imglib500/15_680.jpg

[danewilson77]

ok....Thanks Mikey......so I gots to get a 15 and a 16....

1 - Bosch 17215 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment (http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&bc1=000000&IS2=1&bg1=FFFFFF&fc1=000000&lc1=0000FF&t=zhpcom-20&o=1&p=8&l=as4&m=amazon&f=ifr&asins=B000CF3WOY)
1 - Bosch 17216 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment (http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&bc1=000000&IS2=1&bg1=FFFFFF&fc1=000000&lc1=0000FF&t=zhpcom-20&o=1&p=8&l=as4&m=amazon&f=ifr&asins=B000CF3WPI)

[mikeyb74]

ok....Thanks Mikey......so I gots to get a 15 and a 16....

You're welcome! Glad to be a help.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Good work, guys.

[Whitexi]

I know your car being an 04 is different but for my 02

http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Freview%2FB0 00GZEK00%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Ddp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt %26showViewpoints%3D1&tag=zhpcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957


http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=EU33&mospid=47722&btnr=11_2181&hg=11&fg=50


http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ifvspief4ymhv22u3d12sw45&partnumber=11781742050

I plugged the BMW part number into the Autohausaz site and it gave me the same Bosh part number for the one from Amazon. I buy from them all the time and if your not in a rush any order over $50 gets free ground shipping.

For your 04

The Bosh part numbers when I put the BMW ones into Autohausaz

11787523434 http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ifvspief4ymhv22u3d12sw45&partnumber=11787523434

11787523435 http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ifvspief4ymhv22u3d12sw45&partnumber=11787523435

[az3579]

When it comes to O2 sensors, don't try to skimp. They're not cheap, so if you order the wrong thing, you're going to get pissed.
Definitely get one of each part number, the way it's supposed to be.

I still would use BMW's part # just to be absolutely certain you don't get the wrong one.

[Darin Worthington]

Or you could do the old fasion way, just check the plug to make sure prior to purchase.

[az3579]

Or you could do the old fasion way, just check the plug to make sure prior to purchase.

This unfortunately isn't 100% reliable. Many times websites will use stock photos of similar models, so the connector in the picture may or may not be what you will get.

[Darin Worthington]

Ahh I see what you mean, lazy SOB!!!
Most of the good websites will not use stock photos, so I you go with the realoem, that should show the proper connectors. Once you find the P/N and a good pictures then goto amazon.com to pull your part that you need.

[az3579]

Ahh I see what you mean, lazy SOB!!!

You mean Dane. I'm not the one who needs O2 sensors... :biggrin

[Darin Worthington]

Not dane, the people who posted the pic! Well maybe dane too.. LOL

[danewilson77]

So....looks like I missed out. Cant find em on Amazon anymore

[Whitexi]

So get them from the place I posted lol.

[danewilson77]

I know your car being an 04 is different but for my 02

http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Freview%2FB0 00GZEK00%3Fie%3DUTF8%26ref_%3Ddp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt %26showViewpoints%3D1&tag=zhpcom-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957


http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=EU33&mospid=47722&btnr=11_2181&hg=11&fg=50


http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ifvspief4ymhv22u3d12sw45&partnumber=11781742050

I plugged the BMW part number into the Autohausaz site and it gave me the same Bosh part number for the one from Amazon. I buy from them all the time and if your not in a rush any order over $50 gets free ground shipping.

For your 04

The Bosh part numbers when I put the BMW ones into Autohausaz

11787523434 http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ifvspief4ymhv22u3d12sw45&partnumber=11787523434

11787523435 http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=ifvspief4ymhv22u3d12sw45&partnumber=11787523435

Good idea Whitey. I need to just pull the trigger.

[danewilson77]

Got em both of Amazon for $193.76 shipped......

1 - Bosch 17215 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment (http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&bc1=000000&IS2=1&bg1=FFFFFF&fc1=000000&lc1=0000FF&t=zhpcom-20&o=1&p=8&l=as4&m=amazon&f=ifr&asins=B000CF3WOY)
1 - Bosch 17216 Oxygen Sensor, OE Type Fitment (http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?lt1=_blank&bc1=000000&IS2=1&bg1=FFFFFF&fc1=000000&lc1=0000FF&t=zhpcom-20&o=1&p=8&l=as4&m=amazon&f=ifr&asins=B000CF3WPI)

They only had a few left so I jumped on eeet.

[KrisL]

Earlier this week, I ordered Bosch 17215 & 17216 O2 sensors (front bank and rear bank, respectively) for my car's 100k mi birthday. The boxes arrived and had the correct labels on them.

Upon inspecting the part number on the O2 sensors themselves, they were both 17215 and were identical. d'oh! Did Bosch put the wrong part in one of the boxes?

I removed the O2 sensors from my car to investigate. The ones that came out were 17215 & 17216, but they looked identical (same wire length, connector, etc) except for the wire insulation: 17216 has gray insulation while 17215 has black.

I called my local Kragen to see if they had a 17216 in stock that I could examine. They didn't, but they said that their computer shows that 17215 should fit both front & rear bank... although they did have 17216 listed as well. Very odd... especially considering they were different prices!

Based on the info from Kragen, I decided to give it a shot - I installed the new 17215 in both banks. Took it for a drive - let it warm all the way up, did a few redline shifts.... runs great!

At this point I'm going to venture to guess that they are indeed identical except for the wire insulation color.


http://photos.linquist.net/Vehicles/330i/i-pXvSXXC/0/X2/img_7441-X2.jpg

http://photos.linquist.net/Vehicles/330i/i-SKX8wLB/0/X2/img_7442-X2.jpg

http://photos.linquist.net/Vehicles/330i/i-j497tJz/0/X2/img_7445-X2.jpg

[danewilson77]

Very thought provoking stuff here...

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[aurelius]

So.....I have been wanting to pull the trigger on new pre-cat O2 sensors.

What symptoms were you experiencing, if any, that motivated you to get new O2 sensors? And at what mileage?

[danewilson77]

What symptoms were you experiencing, if any, that motivated you to get new O2 sensors? And at what mileage?

I had two codes since I bought the car that did not affect operation as far as I could tell. P2237, and P2240. I bought the bought O2 sensors from Amazon, synonomously with doing the Shark injector install. The Shark cleared my codes, so I have $200 worth of sensors sitting on my workbench.

[az3579]

I had two codes since I bought the car that did not affect operation as far as I could tell. P2237, and P2240. I bought the bought O2 sensors from Amazon, synonomously with doing the Shark injector install. The Shark cleared my codes, so I have $200 worth of sensors sitting on my workbench.

I may or may not need them soon. I'm very fast approaching 100k miles, which is the life of an O2 sensor. Even if I don't need them, I'm probably going to end up replacing them. Don't have the coin for them at the moment though.

Which O2 sensors do you have? I'm going to do all (4) when I do mine; (2) pre-cat, (2) post-cat.

[danewilson77]

I have the 2 precats.....

That's what the codes pointed to, or what failure rate dictated at the time. I bought the O2 wrench as well. Very nice tool...

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[az3579]

I have the 2 precats.....

That's what the codes pointed to, or what failure rate dictated at the time. I bought the O2 wrench as well. Very nice tool...

Droid + Tapatalk = FTW!

Perhaps when the time comes, I could take it off your hands. How much? Including tool. I assume the tool is the same for both pre- and post-cat sensors?

[danewilson77]

Naaa....tool is brand new, and I will keep it in my collection. O2 sensors were about $200.00 shipped I believe. I will look at the invoice.

The O2 sensor tool I have is offerred at ECSTuning...

[pleasecorrupt]

YES. FOUND THE O2 SENSOR THREAD :)

Anyways, anyone have the 411 to these and which ones I should purchase? -_- only @ ~51k miles and its already throwing a ses light.

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/pleasecorrupt/untitled.jpg


http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/pleasecorrupt/asdfasdf.jpg

[alexandre]

Bumping this with post-cat O2 sensor information.

BMW PN for the two sensors are 11787514926 and 11787514927.
OEM is Bosch 15680 and 15681.

Cheapest I've found was at FCP Euro - http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-oxygen-sensor-rear-15680 & http://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-oxygen-sensor-rear-15681.

[mbeckel]

Naaa....tool is brand new, and I will keep it in my collection. O2 sensors were about $200.00 shipped I believe. I will look at the invoice.

The O2 sensor tool I have is offerred at ECSTuning...

They even make a socket that you can buy at any local parts store

Sent from in the bushes

[Hornung418]

I use the AutoZone kit. Its very robust and has helped me do this job three times. Highly recommended at $40.

Sent from my GS3.

[ELCID86]

I use the AutoZone kit. Its very robust and has helped me do this job three times. Highly recommended at $40.

Sent from my GS3.

What kit are you referring to Justin? And to clarify earlier, can we run 17215 in both spots--$20 cheaper? (and are there only two--Dane said two pre-cats...)

[Hornung418]

The oxygen sensor removal tools.

Sent from my GS3.

[ELCID86]

The oxygen sensor removal tools.

Sent from my GS3.

Danke.

Ein? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/OEM-Oxygen-sensor-wrench-set/_/N-264b?itemIdentifier=272729_0_0_

oder zwei? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/OEM-Oxygen-sensor-wrench/_/N-264b?itemIdentifier=948079_0_0_

[Hornung418]

I went with the OEM part numbers. Only difference is the insulation. Not sure if one has different heat properties, but it helped me not get them confused...

Sent from my GS3.

[ELCID86]

Thanks. So I guess it's just the two pre-cat sensors that need to be done.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=946380

[Hornung418]

Typically. Unless you are getting codes for the rear sensors, don't bother. They don't affect the fuel mixture or running condition.

Sent from my GS3.

[ELCID86]

Typically. Unless you are getting codes for the rear sensors, don't bother. They don't affect the fuel mixture or running condition.

Sent from my GS3.
Got it. No codes. Just runs a bit rough. I'm also planning to due fuel pump. (Filter was done by PO)

[Hermes]

Typically. Unless you are getting codes for the rear sensors, don't bother. They don't affect the fuel mixture or running condition.

Sent from my GS3.

I actually gained some MPG when I changed my post cats

[danewilson77]

Post cats will give you a MWL though with codes.

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[anandoc]

Folks, I am relatively to the ZHP mafia forums - I am more active on the E46F forums. I do not have a ZHP but I have a 2004 330i with about 142,000 KMs now. Bought it at 128,000 KMs. I joined this forum because everybody is so helpful and the level of discussions is so mature, without any flaming.

I have been getting the P2240 code randomly since I bought my car in April this year.

http://i.imgur.com/S7Pr3hS.jpg

The code usually pops-up when I am cruising along on the highway and I need to accelerate around the 120 km/h range. I believe there is some slight hesitation when I step on the gas and after a few seconds, the MIL comes on. The code disappears after a few days.

When I plug in my PA soft scanner, I get:

2974/A4 - O2-sensor before KAT Bank 2: lines
2973/84 - O2-sensor before KAT Bank 1: lines

I have done a bunch of PM stuff on my car over the summers (with help from orange260z):

- Spark plugs
- Fuel filter
- Full cooling system overhaul
- Fuel pump
- Auto GM transmission fluid+filter change
- Differential fluid change
- Cold weather CCV and hoses
- New OEM DISA valve
- VCG and OFHG replacement
- Upper and lower intake boots
- Brake fluid bleed

Question: Is it worth it to get the O2 sensors posted on this thread and replace them? Or has this something to do with the software version on the DME?

Danewilson, I believe you were getting the same codes on your car, what did you do to fix it?

Oh, and a few pictures of my car from 2 weekends ago:

http://i.imgur.com/bNym6In.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0SZ2gY2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0YQp1Pd.jpg

[johnrando]

Sorry, can't help you with the codes but someone will. Welcome BTW. You can also introduce yourself in our New Members section.

[danewilson77]

Folks, I am relatively to the ZHP mafia forums - I am more active on the E46F forums. I do not have a ZHP but I have a 2004 330i with about 142,000 KMs now. Bought it at 128,000 KMs. I joined this forum because everybody is so helpful and the level of discussions is so mature, without any flaming.

I have been getting the P2240 code randomly since I bought my car in April this year.

http://i.imgur.com/S7Pr3hS.jpg

The code usually pops-up when I am cruising along on the highway and I need to accelerate around the 120 km/h range. I believe there is some slight hesitation when I step on the gas and after a few seconds, the MIL comes on. The code disappears after a few days.

When I plug in my PA soft scanner, I get:

2974/A4 - O2-sensor before KAT Bank 2: lines
2973/84 - O2-sensor before KAT Bank 1: lines

I have done a bunch of PM stuff on my car over the summers (with help from orange260z):

- Spark plugs
- Fuel filter
- Full cooling system overhaul
- Fuel pump
- Auto GM transmission fluid+filter change
- Differential fluid change
- Cold weather CCV and hoses
- New OEM DISA valve
- VCG and OFHG replacement
- Upper and lower intake boots
- Brake fluid bleed

Question: Is it worth it to get the O2 sensors posted on this thread and replace them? Or has this something to do with the software version on the DME?

Danewilson, I believe you were getting the same codes on your car, what did you do to fix it?

Oh, and a few pictures of my car from 2 weekends ago:

http://i.imgur.com/bNym6In.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0SZ2gY2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0YQp1Pd.jpg

Yes. I still have the code after changing out pre and post cat O2 sensors. I think I have a bad cat.

[anandoc]

Yes. I still have the code after changing out pre and post cat O2 sensors. I think I have a bad cat.

Thanks. Could you describe the symptoms (if any) when you get the codes? How often do you get the codes? I just want to see if there are any similarities between your and my issue. Thanks again.

[anandoc]

Hi folks,

I just happened to snag 2x pre-cat O2 sensors (they only had 2 in stock) at an awesome price of CAD $90.23 + taxes each.

Question: Just wanted to confirm that I would be ok with two 17216 sensors (as compared to buying 1x 17215 and 1x 17216)? Thanks!

http://i.imgur.com/tRHJSc4.png

[Vas]

Yes you will be fine

[anandoc]

Yes you will be fine

Thank you!

[ELCID86]

Yep. They are the same except the wire color and price as far as I can tell.


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[ELCID86]

And I put two of the same in mine (from Amazon).


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[anandoc]

Thanks Shawn! I could not help but get them at such a low price. I hope this would take take of the CEL I keep getting intermittently.