Best ZHP exhaust?

[pilotnick1203]

Hey all,
I was wondering if you guys run different exhaust systems on your car. What is your favorite? I want it to be a bit louder but not fart cannon or ricey :applause2

[QC_ZHP]

I just have stock+Gruppe M intake. It sounds so good that I haven't even bothered installing my headers yet.

[NorCal-Dimitri]

Tse threeee

[NorCal-Dimitri]

I just have stock+Gruppe M intake. It sounds so good that I haven't even bothered installing my headers yet.

Steve, do you have a video of your gruppe?

[pilotnick1203]

I just have stock+Gruppe M intake. It sounds so good that I haven't even bothered installing my headers yet.

Gruppe M looks great


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[330i ZHP]

NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS

I was very happy with SuperSprint (full system, incl the damn headers), I realllllly like the sound of the Rogue Ikon (the quieter version) If I were to do a non-M again, it would be remove front res, leave the second and then the Ikon II....nice growl, no resonance in the interior and you can hear it but not annoyed by it

If you want to try the less expensive way - try removing the front res first and leave the rest as stock

[SoDelBMW]

I'm also looking to do the same but not going for the whole new exhaust. What is involved if i take out the first res? I'm also going to get a new intake sometime so, possibly the gruppe m or something else.

[328ioc]

I love my magnaflow.....although I am planning on adding headers soonish.

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[330i ZHP]

have muffler shop cut out res and weld in straight through piping

NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS......rasp, if you don't add some sort of cats no get really obnoxious smell

[330i ZHP]

oh, and CEL if you don't get a tune - and if you live in area with emissions testing - your car will become a headache to get it passed

but, everyone has an opinion and they have read others say they have done this or that and passed - or don't have emissions...but that doesn't get rid of the smell, the hacked exhaust (although you can remove the first resonators and install the aftermarket high flow cats 200cell or 100cell in that location)

[TigerTater]

have muffler shop cut out res and weld in straight through piping

NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS......rasp, if you don't add some sort of cats no get really obnoxious smell

Why such disdain for headers? I love mine. Headers back to two AR 25s with an H pipe and then stock second res and stock zhp muffler...I love the sound. Plus the power is fantastic


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[Johal E32]

Stuart, the E46 goes headers and cats, into a large resonator, then a smaller resonator then it dumps into the rear muffler?

I have a rear resonator delete and dinan muffler and the tone is nice and subtle. Very tame but has some noise when you really get on it.

[QC_ZHP]

Steve, do you have a video of your gruppe?

I don't at the moment, but I'll see what I can do.

[llll1l1ll]

I would also like to hear this video. And I might do a resonator delete. But y'all say it wouldn't pass emissions? Perhaps I could fabricate a cover to go around the pipe to make it look like there's a resonator there...

[HokieZHP]

The magnaflow is a great exhaust. Lower and meaner sound than the tse3 IMO. I had one and loved it!

[Johal E32]

I would also like to hear this video. And I might do a resonator delete. But y'all say it wouldn't pass emissions? Perhaps I could fabricate a cover to go around the pipe to make it look like there's a resonator there...

anything post cats does not effect emissions

[Hornung418]

There is only one resonator and its in the middle. The other two boxes are both classified as mufflers.

I like my car with headers + the stock exhaust. But everyone is different..

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[pilotnick1203]

Thanks folks, good thread


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[328ioc]

have muffler shop cut out res and weld in straight through piping

NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS
NO HEADERS......rasp, if you don't add some sort of cats no get really obnoxious smell


oh, and CEL if you don't get a tune - and if you live in area with emissions testing - your car will become a headache to get it passed

but, everyone has an opinion and they have read others say they have done this or that and passed - or don't have emissions...but that doesn't get rid of the smell, the hacked exhaust (although you can remove the first resonators and install the aftermarket high flow cats 200cell or 100cell in that location)

Already working on a tune and I don't have to deal with any inspections what so ever..... :-)

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[Hermes]

To answer OP's question I have to say I agree with Stuart, just delete the first resonator.

To answer what the 'best exhaust' is, that is a personal question as people have different opinions as to what they want in an exhaust. For me it would be either ITB's or P54 intake, long tubes, 400 cell cat under the trans, and single exit in front of RR wheel

Edit: and I have a Perfomance Intake, Dinan throttle body, UUC TSE3 cat back

[derbo]

Stock catalytic convertors cannot be positioned more than 6 inches away from the original location for california emissions laws. This is an automatic visual fail.
If you can manage to remove the visual inspection failure from the equation, you can position the cats in section 1 underneath the car. Extending your O2 sensors and hoping the stock tune will not throw a CEL is possible, but most likely you will need tune to make sure it doesn't CEL out.

There is a good amount of work involved and I suspect alot of people do not want to do this just for "clean" power.


I personally like the TSE3 as it is loud enough to be fun, but quiet enough for a conversation during the freeway. :)

[330i ZHP]

California guys have it the toughest on trying to change the cats/manifolds/headers

[330i ZHP]

Why such disdain for headers? I love mine. Headers back to two AR 25s with an H pipe and then stock second res and stock zhp muffler...I love the sound. Plus the power is fantastic


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You really feel more power - or is it the sound that gives the impression of "more power"?

You have an automatic and headers? Ugh, drone city

How old are you?

[pilotnick1203]

I live in Kansas so no environmental expectations to really meet like CA. All I can disturb is cows LOL.

[TigerTater]

You really feel more power - or is it the sound that gives the impression of "more power"?

You have an automatic and headers? Ugh, drone city

How old are you?

It definitely has more power, and that for a fact is not made up. Yes I have an automatic and headers and it's not uh "drone" city. It's very clean sounding, and exactly what I like. Please feel free to view my exhaust video in my project tread (albeit it was before the added resonators and h pipe). And what does age have to do with anything? You must be wise beyond your years to bring age into a conversation about headers. Why are you trying to start a flame war? That's not typically what we do on this forum...and you've been here long enough to know that...


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[Avetiso]

It definitely has more power, and that for a fact is not made up. Yes I have an automatic and headers and it's not uh "drone" city. It's very clean sounding, and exactly what I like. Please feel free to view my exhaust video in my project tread (albeit it was before the added resonators and h pipe). And what does age have to do with anything? You must be wise beyond your years to bring age into a conversation about headers. Why are you trying to start a flame war? That's not typically what we do on this forum...and you've been here long enough to know that...


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He's not trying to start a flame war lol. Don't take opinions personally.

[OtterEffect]

I don't have these, but this exhaust is by far the best I have ever heard on a ZHP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-qVQTp7C4&index=51&list=LLS2h3CJOa9KygUg4f2ySzbw

[330i ZHP]

Not starting a flame war

[330i ZHP]

How's that cel coding or o2 sim project working out

[Taliben]

FWIW i love my TSE3, sounds really mean at times and then it's quiet at highway speeds. Added a little power on the butt dyno but no where near as much as headers

[Fenrir]

I have the full AA setup from headers to muffler sans the cats and I live in NM and I'm from VA so no inspections for worry about. I like the sound it gives, especially with the intake to balance it out. Check out my AFE Intake review in the Storefront/Product reviews section to hear it. I will say that my exhasut not what anyone would confuse for quiet above 2500-3000 and higher in the band it sounds wonderful. But below 3k or so it's polite and reserved.

Personally though, I reaaaally like the sound the magnaflows give. But I'm a car parts monger so a grain of salt should be added to this lol.

[Sockethead]

I have the Corsa cat back exhaust. I think it sounds great and it's very quiet at cruising/highway speeds. When you get into it, it has a nice sound. What's cool about it is that it's a strait through design.
Kpro also has this on her 135 with cat less down pips and an Agency Power mid pipe. It's still quiet at high way speeds but when she gets into it, man does it sound awesome!

Edit: Corsa and UUC TSE3 are the same thing

[Fenrir]

All this talk of exhaust.... Now I wanna make an exhaust video..

[Sean330i]

If any of you have the stock ZHP exhaust laying around i'll pay stupidly for it :cheers

[OtterEffect]

All this talk of exhaust.... Now I wanna make an exhaust video..

Yes please!


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[Fenrir]

Yes please!


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Lol noooooow it's on my to do list lol

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[BCAN]

Supersprint X-pipe into a straight piped section 2 with a Dinan muffler. I think it sounds really nice, and there's no drone at all. The Dinan airbox and throttle body also help :cool

[derbo]

I would love a M3 section 1 Cat + custom bimmerworld spece46 exhaust :)

[Fenrir]

I would love a M3 section 1 Cat + custom bimmerworld spece46 exhaust :)

:drool

[Hermes]

I would love a M3 section 1 Cat + custom bimmerworld spece46 exhaust :)

You don't like my option?

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/BMW_M3_GTR__4858_20070708.gif

[TigerTater]

How's that cel coding or o2 sim project working out

I'm waiting on my ECM to arrive back from Eurocharged, and will be installing the Lc2 wideband controller this weekend hopefully.


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[Sockethead]

The Dinan airbox and throttle body also help :cool

Hmm... I noticed no difference in sound at all when I had those installed...

[Taliben]

If any of you have the stock ZHP exhaust laying around i'll pay stupidly for it :cheers

I got one here in Memphis.

[BCAN]

Hmm... I noticed no difference in sound at all when I had those installed...
Maybe it doesn't make much a difference, I don't know how it sounded when stock hahah.

[gmurphy]

Hmm... I noticed no difference in sound at all when I had those installed...

My Indy has an E46 with the Dinan goods on it... Defiantly has more noise.


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[pilotnick1203]

All this talk of exhaust.... Now I wanna make an exhaust video..

Please do!

[pilotnick1203]

I don't have these, but this exhaust is by far the best I have ever heard on a ZHP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-qVQTp7C4&index=51&list=LLS2h3CJOa9KygUg4f2ySzbw

Love eisenmann, dad has it on his 840. Bit pricey though :(

[QC_ZHP]

I would love a M3 section 1 Cat + custom bimmerworld spece46 exhaust :)

The spec exhaust sounds ridiculously good to me. If my ZHP ever retires from DD duty, that's the setup I will be after

[CarbonZHP]

Have a KN pod intake. Sound is pretty good up front. Seems BMW are some of the only people with more good noise up front rather than out back. I like the ZHP exhaust, and being in California I cant modify the headers. What effects would that first muffler/resonator delete have on the sound? Just louder, or more rasp? If possible I just want a little more volume but not particularly the full M3 rasp

[330i ZHP]

BCS - Bruce has a stock exhaust he might sell

[MiniD]

I liked my Magnaflow but it turned my interior into a rattle trap.

[derbo]

The spec exhaust sounds ridiculously good to me. If my ZHP ever retires from DD duty, that's the setup I will be after

I really want it too, but it uses an E36 manifold and has no cats. California Emissions will make it hard for me to get that to pass... :(

[Dave1027]

To answer what the 'best exhaust' is, that is a personal question as people have different opinions as to what they want in an exhaust. For me it would be either ITB's or P54 intake, long tubes, 400 cell cat under the trans, and single exit in front of RR wheel

I think the stock ZHP exhaust note is perfect. Like music to my ears. Would not want to change it.

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[TristanHunter]

I really like the sound of this exhaust setup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ELKnnLI-8

but I bet its too loud for daily duty

[midlandtech]

You really feel more power - or is it the sound that gives the impression of "more power"?

You have an automatic and headers? Ugh, drone city

How old are you?
Seems a bit harsh bud...

[derbo]

I really like the sound of this exhaust setup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4ELKnnLI-8

but I bet its too loud for daily duty

For some reason I dont like it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-UVV9aiUKU

We need something like this. :rofl

[Hornung418]

For some reason I dont like it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-UVV9aiUKU

We need something like this. :rofl
Holy shit that was a great noise. Would daily with an ear-to-ear grin everyday.

[johnrando]

We have a thread of different exhaust sounds on this site. I love the TSE3 but it is loud. The MagnaFlow I have now sounds good (I still have a minor problem to fix).

[derbo]

Holy shit that was a great noise. Would daily with an ear-to-ear grin everyday.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QiQJ5UBRYE

[pilotnick1203]

I'll search that thread too! Any opinion on Dinan?


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[johnrando]

Ask Gary Murphy. DINAN walks on water. Lol. Just kidding him. It's not a cat back exhaust but from what I heard it sounds good. It was on sale recently, but it might be over.

[gmurphy]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/23/ybeguzu3.jpg

Keep in mind I don't have the exhaust (yet lol waiting for the next sale) but I have heard it in person many times. It has a little more rumble then the stock exhaust and gets noticeably louder once you get up the rev range. JOOP has the exhaust so he would be better at giving you a description. It isn't raspy and it doesn't drone plus it says Dinan... :)


This video isn't great because of road noise... But it works I guess. It isn't a loud look at me exhaust that's for sure. It's closer to stock but with more oomph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5sVgKoEjOM

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[derbo]

I'll search that thread too! Any opinion on Dinan?


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It's quiet as hell.

[pilotnick1203]

It's quiet as hell.

Then I'll take a nay on Dinan!


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[gmurphy]

Then I'll take a nay on Dinan!


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Yea if you want lots of noise then I would say the same


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[pilotnick1203]

Yea if you want lots of noise then I would say the same


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Low grumble but loud enough to make people look lol


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[gmurphy]

Low grumble but loud enough to make people look lol


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[pilotnick1203]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/24/etyrezus.jpg


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LOL


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[HokieZHP]

Magnaflow+ gruppeM is what I had and it sounded amazing

[BCAN]

I still say straight pipes and a Dinan muffler. Nice balance. I don't have a good way to make a vid of my exhaust, unfortunately.

[derbo]

My cousin has the dinan intake/exhaust and tune. I swear his car sounds stock LOL. I can't imagine what real stock zhp exhaust sounds like now..

[Vas]

If only Remus made a full exhaust system

[328ioc]

For some reason I dont like it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-UVV9aiUKU

We need something like this. :rofl

Ugh.....CSL.....drool....

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[Dave1027]

There's a bone stock white E46 M3 at work I have seen recently. The thing has the sweetest sound. Better than my car. I thought the M3s sounded too rough but I think that's because most are screwed up by kids who think they make them better by slapping a fart can on the pipe.

[midlandtech]

Anyone have thoughts on doing a single 3" from stock manifolds back with a Flowmaster dbx at the end? From what I've read it doesn't restrict flow going from the stock 2 2.25's to 1 3

[SoDelBMW]

After driving BPs car with the uuc corsa tse3 that sound is amazing! I need one, if anyone can find a go used one or great price on new one then definitely let me know!!!!!!!!

[damonchoy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPahkhzrV3I

My old setup. eBay headers and Rogue DMS. Quite a bit of rasp and quite loud when on it.

Nice and quiet on the highway and no drone, though! Only loud when you wanted it to be.