The Official Dinan Thread

[gmurphy]

Hello everyone. I know we all have our favorites when it comes to tuning companies so I would like to have this thread exclusively for the members who are either interested in Dinan parts or members who have Dinan upgrades on their BMW or Mini. Feel free to share pictures and stories of your great experiences with Dinan products! We know that not everyone likes Dinan so please visit the Anti-Dinan thread on your way out. :)
"If there is a positive experience, post it. If there is strong evidence of an issue with a particular product, it would be best to post that so some unsuspecting soul doesn't go down the wrong path." -johnrando

Dinan Dealer Search: http://dinancars.com/authorized-dealers/

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Dinan Factory Tour:
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRUsmYDDL8

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZhjgTOhDgc

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBEWW61XPyA

Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pkBnnitMZQ

Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn5uwg8VW4I

Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOYgDbWAGwY

Part 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5UyzWz69X4

Part 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ei4y_eCzc

Part 9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RihTJ1XtxE

Part 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo3AakUC-wg

Part 11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vprnp-M0cQw

Part 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_0tLoUK80

Part 13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8yTqIPBYz4



Today ( May 9) Ben at European Auto Tech install Stage 1 software on my ZHP. The biggest improvement with the software upgrade is the remapping of the drive-by-wire throttle. Throttle response is dramatically increased making the ZHP perform at it's best. I plan on getting the intake and exhaust eventually along with the supplemented software. Plus this sticker adds like 10 horsepower.

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[HockeyGoon]

Sub a wub

[mbeckel]

Plus this sticker adds like 10 horsepower. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/10/hy2u9u8u.jpg


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That's dyno proven

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[PdZHP]

Then I want two stickers!

[quikryptonite]

Good to hear. I am taking advantage of the 15% off sale next week and getting the stage 1 software as well. Do you have a high flow filter installed? I saw on their website that the stage 1 works best with one. I have the aFe one. I'm really excited to have the throttle respond better.

http://afepower.com/catalog/30-10015/30-10015_400.jpg

[gmurphy]

Good to hear. I am taking advantage of the 15% off sale next week and getting the stage 1 software as well. Do you have a high flow filter installed? I saw on their website that the stage 1 works best with one. I have the aFe one. I'm really excited to have the throttle respond better.

http://afepower.com/catalog/30-10015/30-10015_400.jpg

Fantastic you will love it! I have the stock filter but will upgrade to the Free Flow Air Box soon. The Stage 1 software just makes these cars drive a little bit better. I can't wait to take it out later for a nice drive.


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[gmurphy]

Then I want two stickers!

FTW!


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[gmurphy]

That's dyno proven

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You know it! :)


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[Hermes]

I guess I'm a part of this club

13880

c/o Bruce and Preston :)

[gmurphy]

I guess I'm a part of this club

13880

c/o Bruce and Preston :)

That is beautiful


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[Avetiso]

Nice thread. Looking forward to it.

"Arnold smoking a cigar in the Red Square; your argument is invalid." -Galaxy S5

[3ZHP]

Yes, it bit me also
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss351/3zhpguy/ZHP/20140327_DinanStrutBrace_0003.jpg (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/3zhpguy/media/ZHP/20140327_DinanStrutBrace_0003.jpg.html)


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[Vas]

Someday I will be a part of this club with one of my zhp cars.

[gmurphy]

Yes, it bit me also
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss351/3zhpguy/ZHP/20140327_DinanStrutBrace_0003.jpg (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/3zhpguy/media/ZHP/20140327_DinanStrutBrace_0003.jpg.html)


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Oh I need that


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[gmurphy]

Someday I will be a part of this club with one of my zhp cars.

+1


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[johnrando]

I've got the high flow throttle body too, but I did so many other things to my car at the same time (VANOS, fan delete, etc.) that I have no idea what difference just the TB made.

[Hermes]

I've got the high flow throttle body too, but I did so many other things to my car at the same time (VANOS, fan delete, etc.) that I have no idea what difference just the TB made.

+1

It's just part of the multiplier effect with as many other mods like you and I have

[Avetiso]

Anyone here care to comment on Dinan's air box? Differences? Sound? Would appreciate it.

[MiniD]

Anyone here care to comment on Dinan's air box? Differences? Sound? Would appreciate it.

Worst 'mod' I've ever done. My OEM intake w/ an AFe drop in was louder.

[Hornung418]

Their old carbon fiber intake was great! But the risk of hydrolock caused them to pull the product from the market. You can still find them...but they are extremely rare.

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[Sockethead]

I have stage III software, TB and airbox. I got them all at once. I was pretty disappointed when I got the car back because I couldn't tell any difference. I had the car dyno'd and it only put out 191hp

If I had to do it again. I would of saved the 2k+ I spent on it for FI

The airbox is just as quiet as the stock one. So if your looking for intake sound the Dinan ain't it.
It uses the stock base and replaces the top cover with a much bigger one. There is a snorkel that goes into the drivers side air duct for cold air.

[gmurphy]

This is a Pro-Dinan thread :)

My Indy has the exhaust and airbox on his 330xi. It is slightly louder and the car breathes better. The airbox should be complimented with the software for optimum performance. Since the box is sealed it keeps the warm air from the engine bay out allowing for "colder" air


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[HockeyGoon]

This is a Pro-Dinan thread :)

My Indy has the exhaust and airbox on his 330xi. It is slightly louder and the car breathes better. The airbox should be complimented with the software for optimum performance. Since the box is sealed it keeps the warm air from the engine bay out allowing for "colder" air


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+1 my dentist has dinan upgrades on his M3 and says it makes the car overall breath and function better.

[Hermes]

This is a Pro-Dinan thread :)

It doesn't have to be pro-Dinan... for example, this M62TU manifold is actually just a late M60 manifold with the BMW logo and part numbers ground off

http://dinancars.com/product/d760-5400-dinan-high-flow-intake-manifold-for-bmw-540i-99-03-bmw-740i-99-01-x5-44-2000-03-2/?series=7-Series&mid=1079/

I picked up the exact same part for $100

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/740i/null-19.jpg

I actually have the even better early M60 version with velocity stacks that I need to install still

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/740i/50F53ED7-4E0B-4D0C-B5A3-7AB1365A21BE.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/740i/56A1E6AB-B48D-454C-A064-7257842A7940.jpg

[gmurphy]

It doesn't have to be pro-Dinan... for example, this M62TU manifold is actually just a late M60 manifold with the BMW logo and part numbers ground off

http://dinancars.com/product/d760-5400-dinan-high-flow-intake-manifold-for-bmw-540i-99-03-bmw-740i-99-01-x5-44-2000-03-2/?series=7-Series&mid=1079/

I picked up the exact same part for $100

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/740i/null-19.jpg

I actually have the even better early M60 version with velocity stacks that I need to install still

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/740i/50F53ED7-4E0B-4D0C-B5A3-7AB1365A21BE.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/740i/56A1E6AB-B48D-454C-A064-7257842A7940.jpg

What I mean is that I would like this thread to be more about the benefits of some of their products rather than a bunch of negative reviews. I know not everyone is satisfied with any given product from any given company but is nice to read the positive comments rather than.... :)


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[gmurphy]

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[KevinC]

+1 my dentist has dinan upgrades on his M3 and says it makes the car overall breath and function better.

Dentists, chiropractors, gynecologists, and the like, all have Dinan upgrades on their BMWs, because they can. Your wallet helps pay for it. :)

Aftermarket intakes of any kind, except in RARE cases where in concert with some other meaningful mods, are the worst bang for the buck in this history of motoring.

[gmurphy]

Dentists, chiropractors, gynecologists, and the like, all have Dinan upgrades on their BMWs, because they can. Your wallet helps pay for it. :)

Aftermarket intakes of any kind, except in RARE cases where in concert with some other meaningful mods, are the worst bang for the buck in this history of motoring.

True but they do help the engine breath better. Minor gains yes but you gain airflow even if it's a small amount. Plus they look cool!


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[Hermes]

What I mean is that I would like this thread to be more about the benefits of some of their products rather than a bunch of negative reviews. I know not everyone is satisfied with any given product from any given company but is nice to read the positive comments rather than.... :)


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My main gripe with Dinan is the cost/benefit of their modifications. Equal quality or better can be had in the same price range. You are mainly paying for the Dinan name

[ELCID86]

I'm sure it's been debated elsewhere, but what's the dyno say??


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[gmurphy]

My main gripe with Dinan is the cost/benefit of their modifications. Equal quality or better can be had in the same price range. You are mainly paying for the Dinan name

Sure but I think it depends on the buyer. Let's take an iPhone or Galaxy device and some generic smart phone. Apple and Samsung both have a quality fit to their brand so I would obviously choose them over the generic smartphone. Even though both devices do the same thing. It's all about preference. Same with BMW vs. Cadillac. BMW screams sporty to me and Cadillac does not. Do they make great products? I'm sure they do but I would choose BMW because I am more familiar with their products. And it is awesome we have the ability of choice when making modifications to our cars. Do I like knowing that Dinan spends a lot of time and money when designing (most) of their products? Sure thing I do! I'm sure other companies work just as hard but for me it's about what I know. Do I like that my tech only trusts Dinan aftermarket parts on his vehicles? Sure thing. That's part of the reason I boarded the Dinan ship. I also like that they don't make up numbers for things like software and intakes. I know what I am getting and am willing to pay for it you know? But other companies do their part too and cater towards their own customers. In my opinion, Dinan ticks all the boxes. But thankfully there are many other choices out there. Which is why it's great we can all share our positive experiences with using them.


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[gmurphy]

I like these wheels but not for the price they cost new. For once I will agree and say these are quite expensive. :) http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/y2ageje4.jpg


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[gmurphy]

I'll forget to post so just ignore until tomorrow.

Tech Tip Tuesday
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[Hermes]

I understand where you and your tech are coming from, I used to be full bore in the Dinan camp but I have since learned more and know what else is available. They still make good parts, but as I said from a cost/benefit analysis there are many other tuners that make great parts and spend a ton of time developing them before being out to market.

For example, this is one of my favorite shops:

http://www.vacmotorsports.com

[Sockethead]

The reason I originally went with the Dinan stuff was that my car was still under warranty at the time and Dinan backs up the factory warranty.

As far as this thread being pro Dinan only... That just wouldn't be fair to the other forum members. One needs positive and negative reviews to make an accurate decision. Especially on high dollar items.

[Avetiso]

The reason I originally went with the Dinan stuff was that my car was still under warranty at the time and Dinan backs up the factory warranty.

As far as this thread being pro Dinan only... That just wouldn't be fair to the other forum members. One needs positive and negative reviews to make an accurate decision. Especially on high dollar items.
Bingo. ZHPM is a placed for balanced reviews, not camp this vs. camp that. If the majority of members don't like Dinan, you will hear it.

As far as how I feel about it... Garry, you bring up an interesting point with Apple vs. Samsung. I'll say this: Apple used to be considered the best because it was the first (in many cases) to make quality mobile products. Since then, however, it has grown stagnant. Their products are no longer innovative. They charge top dollar when higher quality competitors offer more and better products for less money. Their company no longer strives to be the best, they simply use their name to rake in as much money as possible. Every single Apple release for the past 2 years has left them behind the curve before said product was even released. And can you blame them? Look at how many people are willing to pay for Apple items when competitors offer better products that are more innovative and less expensive.

Dinan is the Apple of the BMW tuning world. Given that, if you would rather buy an iPhone that an Anroid/Windows phone, and you would rather buy Dinan products over other products, you do not need to justify your opinion to anyone. If you are pleased and comfortable with their products, then more power to you. That's the beauty of car tuning. Do it your way. Enjoy it for your own self.

However, don't be offended if people tell you that your money would be better spent elsewhere. We are not trash talking or picking at you. We are simply (persistently) advising you that if you want gains in power and functionality for your ZHP, you will get much more for your money with other companies than you will with Dinan.

/opinion

[Avetiso]

I understand where you and your tech are coming from, I used to be full bore in the Dinan camp but I have since learned more and know what else is available. They still make good parts, but as I said from a cost/benefit analysis there are many other tuners that make great parts and spend a ton of time developing them before being out to market.

For example, this is one of my favorite shops:

http://www.vacmotorsports.com
VAC is the shiznizat.

[gmurphy]

Bingo. ZHPM is a placed for balanced reviews, not camp this vs. camp that. If the majority of members don't like Dinan, you will hear it.

As far as how I feel about it... Garry, you bring up an interesting point with Apple vs. Samsung. I'll say this: Apple used to be considered the best because it was the first (in many cases) to make quality mobile products. Since then, however, it has grown stagnant. Their products are no longer innovative. They charge top dollar when higher quality competitors offer more and better products for less money. Their company no longer strives to be the best, they simply use their name to rake in as much money as possible. Every single Apple release for the past 2 years has left them behind the curve before said product was even released. And can you blame them? Look at how many people are willing to pay for Apple items when competitors offer better products that are more innovative and less expensive.

Dinan is the Apple of the BMW tuning world. Given that, if you would rather buy an iPhone that an Anroid/Windows phone, and you would rather buy Dinan products over other products, you do not need to justify your opinion to anyone. If you are pleased and comfortable with their products, then more power to you. That's the beauty of car tuning. Do it your way. Enjoy it for your own self.

However, don't be offended if people tell you that your money would be better spent elsewhere. We are not trash talking or picking at you. We are simply (persistently) advising you that if you want gains in power and functionality for your ZHP, you will get much more for your money with other companies than you will with Dinan.

/opinion

Avoiding the Apple vs Samsung ( 5S S5 coincidence?? Just Kidding I see what your saying... :) ) talk I just wanted to create a thread where we can share our positive experiences since it seems most people do not like Dinan (at least on this forum). Just thought it would be nice to have a place where one could read positive reviews. :dunno. I like it and I'm glad I went with it. If you are not then that's fine by me. Luckily there are many other options out there.


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[gmurphy]

The reason I originally went with the Dinan stuff was that my car was still under warranty at the time and Dinan backs up the factory warranty.

As far as this thread being pro Dinan only... That just wouldn't be fair to the other forum members. One needs positive and negative reviews to make an accurate decision. Especially on high dollar items.

For sure. But I thought it would make it easy to consolidate all the positive reviews for a prospective buyer rather than having few positive and mostly negative reviews scattered throughout the forum. That's all. :dunno


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[mbeckel]

My main gripe with Dinan is the cost/benefit of their modifications. Equal quality or better can be had in the same price range. You are mainly paying for the Dinan name

+1 I shop elsewhere, Dinan is flat out not worthy of the money they charge. Shop your options, wayyyyy better bang for the buck, I'm not pro-dinan, I am pro-performance.

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[gmurphy]

And so we can get it out of the way....http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/qebyse2a.jpg


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[Avetiso]

Alrighty guys. Let's drop it.

[mbeckel]

Just wanted to let out my .02

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[Newjack]

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[Avetiso]

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All hail, Gifmaster.

[gmurphy]

And so we can get it out of the way....http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/qebyse2a.jpg


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And that killed the crowd!? I thought I was being hilarious. :(


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[Avetiso]

And that killed the crowd!? I thought I was being hilarious. :(


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I don't really get the Shark reference, but Rob (Newjack) is known for posting GIFs as responses to humor us. It's kinda hard to tell when someone is being funny on a forum. :p

[gmurphy]

I don't really get the Shark reference, but Rob (Newjack) is known for posting GIFs as responses to humor us. It's kinda hard to tell when someone is being funny on a forum. :p

Shark Injector :)


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[gmurphy]

Here is a pretty cool tour of Dinan's Facilities. It's a long series but worth watching if you like that type of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRUsmYDDL8


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[gmurphy]

Just wanted to let out my .02

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Can I haz your throttle body then?


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[mbeckel]

Can I haz your throttle body then?


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Hmmm..... noper... lol

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[danewilson77]

I think threads that limit the reveiws to only positive ones are dangerous.

[Hermes]

The only Dinan parts I would personally buy are the throttle body and long tube intake for E46, throttle body for M62TU, and turbo exhaust manifold for M10.

The long tube is discontinued, the throttle bodies are overpriced, and the M10 parts haven't been in production for 20 years.

[mbeckel]

The only Dinan parts I would personally buy are the throttle body and long tube intake for E46, throttle body for M62TU, and turbo exhaust manifold for M10.

The long tube is discontinued, the throttle bodies are overpriced, and the M10 parts haven't been in production for 20 years.

Amen brother that's a spot on assessment. The throttle body is not bad. But wasn't worth the money I spent

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[danewilson77]

I'd support the suspension pieces, throttle body, front and rear strut braces, and pedal sets.

I think these are pretty nice pieces regardless of price.

Samsung Galaxy S5...

[gmurphy]

I think threads that limit the reveiws to only positive ones are dangerous.

Sure but there isn't much opinion on Dinan here except that is all overpriced hu-hot. Just wanted to have something different. Completely understand.

Also if anyone cares I have noticed improved fuel economy and smoother idle with the software. I'm sure the car needed a refresh and it gave it just what it needed.


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[danewilson77]

I at some point will buy the throttle body, front and rear strut braces and stage 1 suspension = 10 points.

[gmurphy]

I at some point will buy the throttle body, front and rear strut braces and stage 1 suspension = 10 points.

That would be sweet!


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[johnrando]

As long as we are not just 'rehashing the bashing', this could and should be a useful thread. (like that term? I'm gonna copyright it :) ). If there is a positive experience, post it. If there is strong evidence of an issue with a particular product, it would be best to post that so some unsuspecting soul doesn't go down the wrong path. What I think Gary wants to eliminate (if I can speak for him) is generic 'too expensive, all based on reputation' talk that we always hear. I certainly wouldn't blame him for that.

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[PdZHP]

I would just like to add that you don't have to pay retail for some equipment, Dinan or not, by purchasing through private party...if your lucky to find it.
My 2 pennies...cuz that's all I can afford lol.

[johnrando]

Interesting tidbit, I asked AA if I'lI needed a reflash of my tune do to the TB and they said they'd need a Dyno w/AFR info so they could tell. Otherwise, they don't know. John

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[Sockethead]

As long as we are not just 'rehashing the bashing', this could and should be a useful thread. (like that term? I'm gonna copyright it :) ). If there is a positive experience, post it. If there is strong evidence of an issue with a particular product, it would be best to post that so some unsuspecting soul doesn't go down the wrong path. What I think Gary wants to eliminate (if I can speak for him) is generic 'too expensive, all based on reputation' talk that we always hear. I certainly wouldn't blame him for that.

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This why I included my dyno numbers. That was the best out of three pulls. I would of been happy if it was over 200 HP. I've had the Dinan products on my car for over 4 years now...

I would like to get some new numbers now that I have the full Corsa exhaust. The shop that did the work assured me that the ZHP exhaust was good enough but I'd like verify.

[gmurphy]

As long as we are not just 'rehashing the bashing', this could and should be a useful thread. (like that term? I'm gonna copyright it :) ). If there is a positive experience, post it. If there is strong evidence of an issue with a particular product, it would be best to post that so some unsuspecting soul doesn't go down the wrong path. What I think Gary wants to eliminate (if I can speak for him) is generic 'too expensive, all based on reputation' talk that we always hear. I certainly wouldn't blame him for that.

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Exactly. Perfectly executed John. Thank you. Let the continuation begin!


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[johnrando]

:thumbsup

Sorry for the typo... 'do' s/b 'due'

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[mbeckel]

I will give Dinan cudos for one thing, the rear shock brace, finding them through others is difficult. And I like their design on the strut and rear shock braces.

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[Sockethead]

Here's more info and a couple of shots of the Dinan air box

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/ma7yge5a.jpg

The bottom of the box is stock still using the stock snorkels. An additional snorkel is added to the left brake duct. This is the hardest part of the installation as you have add the holes in the air box and the brake duct. I really don't think there is any issue with hydro locking since it still uses the stock snorkels. If the only intake was through the brake duct snorkel then I'd be worried
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/a2uzyzuv.jpg

Here's a shot of the inside of the top air box. The filter is pretty big and it's the dry type. I replace it every 30k or so.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/atasu4aq.jpg

[gmurphy]

Here's more info and a couple of shots of the Dinan air box

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/ma7yge5a.jpg

The bottom of the box is stock still using the stock snorkels. An additional snorkel is added to the left brake duct. This is the hardest part of the installation as you have add the holes in the air box and the brake duct. I really don't think there is any issue with hydro locking since it still uses the stock snorkels. If the only intake was through the brake duct snorkel then I'd be worried
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/a2uzyzuv.jpg

Here's a shot of the inside of the top air box. The filter is pretty big and it's the dry type. I replace it every 30k or so.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/atasu4aq.jpg

Wow thanks for sharing. Dinan claims this intake design provides the ideal conditions for the engine because the intake and filter are in a sealed environment. And because of this, the hotter air in the engine bay does not heat up the "cold" air coming in from the inlets. It's a very cool design.


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[quikryptonite]

Here is my experience so far with my stage 1 software. I had it installed at the only Dinan dealer in Utah and he was great to work worth. One thing I found out was you can upgrade to stage 2 software and you only have to pay the difference between stage 1 and stage 2. So, that is nice if I want to go that route in the future.

I've enjoyed much smoother and quicker acceleration with the software installed in my car. It's kind of hard to explain, I don't really feel like my car is more powerful, maybe 2-3 HP I suppose at most. But, I feel that the car is able to use what it has a lot more effectively to get to the higher RPM range more quickly than the stock setup. There is no lag in the lower range and silky smooth all the way through the power band.

I was actually surprised at the perkiness my car now displays from about 3500-6000 RPM. It has become even more fun to drive now. On my first fuel up, it appears that I am getting 1-2 more MPG on the freeway cruising at 70mph.

So far I am very pleased with it. That's my .02.

[gmurphy]

Here is my experience so far with my stage 1 software. I had it installed at the only Dinan dealer in Utah and he was great to work worth. One thing I found out was you can upgrade to stage 2 software and you only have to pay the difference between stage 1 and stage 2. So, that is nice if I want to go that route in the future.

I've enjoyed much smoother and quicker acceleration with the software installed in my car. It's kind of hard to explain, I don't really feel like my car is more powerful, maybe 2-3 HP I suppose at most. But, I feel that the car is able to use what it has a lot more effectively to get to the higher RPM range more quickly than the stock setup. There is no lag in the lower range and silky smooth all the way through the power band.

I was actually surprised at the perkiness my car now displays from about 3500-6000 RPM. It has become even more fun to drive now. On my first fuel up, it appears that I am getting 1-2 more MPG on the freeway cruising at 70mph.

So far I am very pleased with it. That's my .02.

That's good to hear! I too think the power dip experienced around 4k is nearly gone. I'm glad to hear you like it! The throttle response is much better and makes the software justifiable just because of that IMO!


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[SoDelBMW]

For everyone in the mid Atlantic region whats the closest Dinan dealer to Delaware?

[gmurphy]

For everyone in the mid Atlantic region whats the closest Dinan dealer to Delaware?

http://dinancars.com/authorized-dealers/


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[SoDelBMW]

http://dinancars.com/authorized-dealers/


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Wow didn't see that on the website the first time! Thanks also does anyone have an opinion on the dinan suspension stage 1 upgrade vs. other suspension upgrades?

[gmurphy]

Wow didn't see that on the website the first time! Thanks also does anyone have an opinion on the dinan suspension stage 1 upgrade vs. other suspension upgrades?

No problem. I hope to get the suspension kit at some point and would like to hear if anyone else has experience with it too. It's expensive but a great set up.


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[mbeckel]

No problem. I hope to get the suspension kit at some point and would like to hear if anyone else has experience with it too. It's expensive but a great set up.


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I'm for sure going elsewhere for suspension, I'm leaning towards bilstein adjustable coilovers

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[SoDelBMW]

I've been looking at the adjustable coilovers too but still not sure. It's a long way down the road for me.

[Sockethead]

For everyone in the mid Atlantic region whats the closest Dinan dealer to Delaware?

I got my Dinan stuff installed at Bimmerworks in West Chester PA. That's pretty close to DE. The owner, Steve Snow was a pleasure to work with and they get good reviews. He even lent me his wife's X5 4.8is when he ran out of loaners...

[mbeckel]

I've been looking at the adjustable coilovers too but still not sure. It's a long way down the road for me.

I've been shopping ecstuning their selection is awesome

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[SoDelBMW]

I got my Dinan stuff installed at Bimmerworks in West Chester PA. That's pretty close to DE. The owner, Steve Snow was a pleasure to work with and they get good reviews. He even lent me his wife's X5 4.8is when he ran out of loaners...

Sweet I think I'm going to start the dinan process soon!

[gmurphy]

Sweet I think I'm going to start the dinan process soon!

What are you thinking of getting?


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[gmurphy]

I'm for sure going elsewhere for suspension, I'm leaning towards bilstein adjustable coilovers

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That would be cool.


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[SoDelBMW]

What are you thinking of getting?


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The cold air intake is looking really nice right now and later the software.

[gmurphy]

The cold air intake is looking really nice right now and later the software.

Sounds good! Helps that it's on sale too! Stage II software will compliment the intake nicely when you are ready for it. The throttle remapping is so impressive.


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[SoDelBMW]

Sounds good! Helps that it's on sale too! Stage II software will compliment the intake nicely when you are ready for it. The throttle remapping is so impressive.


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Yeah I'm very excited!

[gmurphy]

Yeah I'm very excited!

Are you going to try and get a Dinan certified car? (10 points)


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[SoDelBMW]

Are you going to try and get a Dinan certified car? (10 points)


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That's the goal but with my own touches added to it to make it unique. I'm definitely going to do other things besides Dinan mods.

[gmurphy]

That's the goal but with my own touches added to it to make it unique. I'm definitely going to do other things besides Dinan mods.

Sounds great!


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[johnrando]

More info on the TB wrt the AA tune.

"the Dinan throttle body is usually 1-2 mm bigger and so the tuning should not need a lot of adjustment, the modern DME in these cars have the ability to adapt to a lot more than the older ones.
We have tested mainly the E46M3 cars with Dinan throttle bodies upgrades and we do not see any substantial gain in power on the dyno. Maybe 2-3 HP if as much. I could tweak the SW a bit to see if we can get some more out of it but like i said before the car would have to go on a chassis dyno for us to squeeze this little extra."

[WOLFN8TR]

I've got the high flow throttle body too.
Here ya go John.

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[Sockethead]

More info on the TB wrt the AA tune.

"the Dinan throttle body is usually 1-2 mm bigger and so the tuning should not need a lot of adjustment, the modern DME in these cars have the ability to adapt to a lot more than the older ones.
We have tested mainly the E46M3 cars with Dinan throttle bodies upgrades and we do not see any substantial gain in power on the dyno. Maybe 2-3 HP if as much. I could tweak the SW a bit to see if we can get some more out of it but like i said before the car would have to go on a chassis dyno for us to squeeze this little extra."

I wonder if there are any substantial gain when using the TB with FI...

[johnrando]

Thanks Gary. Forgot that that was a pic of MINE! lol

[Hornung418]

I wonder if there are any substantial gain when using the TB with FI...

Minimal. What people are seen to misunderstand is that the restriction of airflow is not at the throttle body. Its the head. You would need 1mm oversized exhaust valves, port matched exhaust and possibly a different cam set up to see major gains from the throttle body.

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[Sockethead]

Good info. A lot of vehicles will benefit from a larger TB.... Apparently, ours isn't one of them...

[johnrando]

Well, more like a very minor benefit.

[gmurphy]

Well, more like a very minor benefit.

+1


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[WOLFN8TR]

Thanks Gary. Forgot that that was a pic of MINE! lol

Yep...Welcome

[gmurphy]

Picture of the dayhttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/20/6a7agugu.jpg


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[JupiterBMW]

Picture of the day. My sig.

/thread

:biggrin

[JupiterBMW]

In all seriousness, how did I miss this thread? I can see both sides of the arguments for and against Dinan. I will agree, their stuff is very pricey, especially considering the performance gains. I did each piece individually, so I know what there is to feel/not feel with each one. But, the quality of their parts, and their customer service is awesome. Personally, whether you like their stuff or not, if you see a Dinan badged car, you know it has been very tastefully and cleanly modified.

Personally, I've always wanted a white Dinan 3 series, and I've finally got it. I saw firsthand how the AFE intake makes more noise for less money. There are cutback exhausts that cost less than a Dinan axle back.

But, Dinan clearly makes quality products, and those that like them will continue to spend money on future parts.

That all being said, all I want now are the Dinan floormats. :)

[3ZHP]

Joop, now that yours is complete how does it compare with the ride we took in mine last year at the reunion


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[ELCID86]

That all being said, all I want now are the Dinan floormats. :)

I know that is NOT your secret project... #stillwaiting.

[Pip]

I like seeing dinan cars. I would own one (cuz wallet), but that doesn't mean I can't look :) I wish the e46m exhaust had 4 functioning tips and I might own that.

[gmurphy]

I like seeing dinan cars. I would own one (cuz wallet), but that doesn't mean I can't look :) I wish the e46m exhaust had 4 functioning tips and I might own that.

4 tips creates power loss! That's why they went with the design.


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[Pip]

4 tips creates power loss! That's why they went with the design.


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Yea I understand why Dinan did it, but doesn't mean I like the aesthetics of it. If the mufflers weren't so praised I might own one, but the prices are still fairly high for a muffler that is used and sometimes tips that aren't in the best condition. $900-1000 would have pretty much paid for the muffler during the sale and that is a used price.

[gmurphy]

Yea I understand why Dinan did it, but doesn't mean I like the aesthetics of it. If the mufflers weren't so praised I might own one, but the prices are still fairly high for a muffler that is used and sometimes tips that aren't in the best condition. $900-1000 would have pretty much paid for the muffler during the sale and that is a used price.

If you get the black tipped exhaust nobody would know since they have the 2 "dummy pipes" with it. Looks just like the 4 piped exhaust except only 2 are actually functioning. All down to personal preference though.


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[gmurphy]

Not bad for an E39 :)
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[danewilson77]

:like

[JupiterBMW]

Joop, now that yours is complete how does it compare with the ride we took in mine last year at the reunion


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Honestly, I drove a lot of cars that weekend and I just don't remember...


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[gmurphy]

Just a reminder that the 15% Dinan sale ends this Saturday. For our cars the Dinan intake, exhaust, and software are all on sale.

The intake: $211.65 (regular $249.00)

Exhaust: $594.15 ($699.00)

Software Stage 1: $254.15 ($299.00)




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[mbeckel]

Just a reminder that the 15% Dinan sale ends this Saturday. For our cars the Dinan intake, exhaust, and software are all on sale.

The intake: $211.65 (regular $249.00)

Exhaust: $594.15 ($699.00)

Software Stage 1: $254.15 ($299.00)




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That's all still overpriced

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[gmurphy]

That's all still overpriced

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Not at all. Considering the designs actually fit the car too :)


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[mbeckel]

Not at all. Considering the designs actually fit the car too :)


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Everything on my car fits to perfection and the only Dinan part I have is a throttle body (rip off)

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[gmurphy]

Everything on my car fits to perfection and the only Dinan part I have is a throttle body (rip off)

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;)


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[gmurphy]

Got a nice Dinan T-Shirt from my Indy today. Usually is costs $245 (Jk they are $34) . But he was kind enough to let me have it! http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/28/asutyve9.jpg


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[Avetiso]

$245 aint bad. I expected $500. Lol.

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[gmurphy]

$245 aint bad. I expected $500. Lol.

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That's the jackets :)


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[JupiterBMW]

Sad to see a lot of anti-Dinan talk in here. Personally, I don't like some things people do to their cars, but I wouldn't go in and criticize the stuff just because I think it may not be the most ideal mod/part...

I'll enjoy my Dinan3 and stick to other threads...

Oh, and Garry, that t-shirt should belong to me. When you make badge status, you can have it back. :biggrin

[HockeyGoon]

Sad to see a lot of anti-Dinan talk in here. Personally, I don't like some things people do to their cars, but I wouldn't go in and criticize the stuff just because I think it may not be the most ideal mod/part...

I'll enjoy my Dinan3 and stick to other threads...

Oh, and Garry, that t-shirt should belong to me. When you make badge status, you can have it back. :biggrin

This is just perfect :)

[gmurphy]

Sad to see a lot of anti-Dinan talk in here. Personally, I don't like some things people do to their cars, but I wouldn't go in and criticize the stuff just because I think it may not be the most ideal mod/part...

I'll enjoy my Dinan3 and stick to other threads...

Oh, and Garry, that t-shirt should belong to me. When you make badge status, you can have it back. :biggrin

:)


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[gmurphy]

Sad to see a lot of anti-Dinan talk in here. Personally, I don't like some things people do to their cars, but I wouldn't go in and criticize the stuff just because I think it may not be the most ideal mod/part...

I'll enjoy my Dinan3 and stick to other threads...

Oh, and Garry, that t-shirt should belong to me. When you make badge status, you can have it back. :biggrin

Hopefully I can share in the Dinan experience soon. Thanks for the remark. :)


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[gmurphy]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/_mobile/cars/news/auto-blog/steve-dinans-rare-1m-coupe-is-for-sale?click=main_sr


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[gmurphy]

It's a "Piggy-Back" in a sense but with software to go with it. Very cool.
http://dinancars.com/product/d440-1602-st1-d-tronics-performance-tuner-stage-1-for-bmw-f30-335/?series=3-Series&mid=1205/


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[Avetiso]

I swear you're on Dinan's payroll. :rofl

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[QC_ZHP]

LOL

[mbeckel]

I swear you're on Dinan's payroll. :rofl

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they need to at least give him free stuff or something, he's swinging from their sacks! lmao

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[danewilson77]

........he's swinging from their sacks! lmao

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Damn

[ELCID86]

they need to at least give him free stuff or something, he's swinging from their sacks! lmao

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:rofl


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[gmurphy]

Damn

Right in the feels!


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[gmurphy]

I swear you're on Dinan's payroll. :rofl

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Not yet....


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[johnrando]

I swear you're on Dinan's payroll. :rofl

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Totally what I was thinking! :biggrin

[JupiterBMW]

Of course though. The diesel F30 gets no Dinan love.


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[derbo]

You should talk to Steve Dinan, Joop. LOL

[mbeckel]

Of course though. The diesel F30 gets no Dinan love.


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[mbeckel]

And yes, I am openly a Dinan hater! But I will back my trash talk, I'll put my list of mods against any comparable list of Dinan mods and destroy it either on the dyno or the track!

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[gmurphy]

That's because Dinan isn't all that good my friend

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Then give me your throttle body! :rofl And this isn't a trash talk thread. There isn't a huge market for the diesel in the states right now so why would one bother with performance software and bolt ons?

Sure there is "better" stuff for engines like the N54-N55 but whose tuned engine will last longer? The one with the piggy back tricking the ECU or the one that is integrated with hardware and software in harmony with the ECU. Also you can't always believe the claims you read. Ripping out the cats and running race gas when on a dyno usually gives a better figure. Does every tuner do this? Certainly not! But I am sure some do. And this is for all mods! Clearly I have a thing for Dinan but I also appreciate other peoples creations. Alpina for example... They are a very well respected tuner and if they had parts for the E46 available in the US I would defiantly consider them.
I just thought I would share this new type of piggy back that has both hardware and software integration. In my eyes this is pretty cool. Does Dinan maybe tune back the power? Sure... Because they have a warranty to honor and want the engine to last as long as it can. They tuned 700hp (!) out of the Alpina B7 but obviously didn't leave the engine at that state because it wouldn't last as long. This isn't a bashing thread but rather one where (mostly myself :rofl) shares different things one company is doing in the world of performance BMWs. I personally am a tech geek and BMW nerd so when finding out different things (like the various links I posted) that are new in this category you are damn right I'm going to share! :). One thing I haven't posted is the new software Dinan has created to recalibrate the factory electronic dampeners on the newer cars! I think it is pretty neat they can change how the car will ride and handle just with computers alone. (Obviously new shocks, springs, and sway bars work better). And of course everyone has their own preference which is fine by me! This way nobody's cars are exactly the same ;)


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[mbeckel]

;);););););):rolleyes::rolleyes:;)
Then give me your throttle body! :rofl And this isn't a trash talk thread. There isn't a huge market for the diesel in the states right now so why would one bother with performance software and bolt ons?

Sure there is "better" stuff for engines like the N54-N55 but whose tuned engine will last longer? The one with the piggy back tricking the ECU or the one that is integrated with hardware and software in harmony with the ECU. Also you can't always believe the claims you read. Ripping out the cats and running race gas when on a dyno usually gives a better figure. Does every tuner do this? Certainly not! But I am sure some do. And this is for all mods! Clearly I have a thing for Dinan but I also appreciate other peoples creations. Alpina for example... They are a very well respected tuner and if they had parts for the E46 available in the US I would defiantly consider them.
I just thought I would share this new type of piggy back that has both hardware and software integration. In my eyes this is pretty cool. Does Dinan maybe tune back the power? Sure... Because they have a warranty to honor and want the engine to last as long as it can. They tuned 700hp (!) out of the Alpina B7 but obviously didn't leave the engine at that state because it wouldn't last as long. This isn't a bashing thread but rather one where (mostly myself :rofl) shares different things one company is doing in the world of performance BMWs. I personally am a tech geek and BMW nerd so when finding out different things (like the various links I posted) that are new in this category you are damn right I'm going to share! :). One thing I haven't posted is the new software Dinan has created to recalibrate the factory electronic dampeners on the newer cars! I think it is pretty neat they can change how the car will ride and handle just with computers alone. (Obviously new shocks, springs, and sway bars work better). And of course everyone has their own preference which is fine by me! This way nobody's cars are exactly the same ;)


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its fun to rattle your cage! ;) I'll layoff of your thread now that I got my .02 out. It is cool that they have a program for electronic controlled suspension

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[mbeckel]

Sorry for all the smily faces, the new update on the app is screwy

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[gmurphy]

Sorry for all the smily faces, the new update on the app is screwy

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;) :rofl
And I like being rattled! ;) I'm glad you are being honest!


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[JupiterBMW]

You should talk to Steve Dinan, Joop. LOL

I did when we had the F25. The market wasn't there, and I know it's not for the diesel F30... Oh well, it's all good.


That's because Dinan isn't all that good my friend

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Ugh, now I remember why I chose to leave this thread... Consider me done for good now, starting to feel a little E46f in here...



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[danewilson77]

@ mbeckel > Let's not rattle cages just cuz. It allows others the opportunity to become rattled as well, then I have to close the thread down, which I'd rather not do.

[mbeckel]

@ mbeckel > Let's not rattle cages just cuz. It allows others the opportunity to become rattled as well, then I have to close the thread down, which I'd rather not do.
its all good. I'll try to stay away from this thread. keep to myself.

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[rguti153]

Hi lol

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[johnrando]

A little feisty, eh Joop? :)

[gmurphy]

Hello everyone... Garry Dinan here. Check out this video review of the Dinan 1M by the Smoking Tire. You cannot hate this car. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujurRoZyi0I


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[Avetiso]

That name suits you. And I agree, their 1M is freaking wicked.

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[3ZHP]

DINAN's 450 HP BMW S3R 1M Coupe: Too Fast for Public Consumption?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujurRoZyi0I

[gmurphy]

Repost :mafia
;)


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[3ZHP]

Dinan just posted a price drop on their Facebook page; up to 35% off.


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[ELCID86]

Dinan just posted a price drop on their Facebook page; up to 35% off.


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Hard to tell what it includes.

[gmurphy]

Hard to tell what it includes.

I have yet to see a markdown on E46 parts. Maybe their website isn't updated?


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[6SPDZHP]

Just picked these up2566825669

[BADCLOWN]

Brand new? Must have been pricey

[JupiterBMW]

Wow, glad to see people are still loving on the Dinan parts... I am too to be honest. And let me say this, now that I own two newer M vehicles, you guys cannot bitch ONE BIT about prices... The exhaust for my M3 is $2500... :eek Granted, I got mine for free, but that's a whole other story...

The other reason you guys cannot justify prices is warranty. With the ZHP being out of warranty, there is no real reason to spend the extra money on Dinan. But, if you own a car in warranty, buying mods that will match and not compromise the factory BMW warranty is a huge plus. Not to mention, you can get them installed at the dealer... Sadly, this is the majority of enthusiasts for the new BMWs... I spend a lot of time on Bimmerpost (a forum catering to the uber wealthy new BMW owners) and you see a lot of these type of people... A "build" thread consists of the OEM carbon fiber BMW Performance parts, some aftermarket exhaust, and wheels... The stuff we do with the ZHP is typically much more involved... (and therefore, in my eyes, way cooler)

So, once again, I agree that their parts are pricey, but damn I think they're beautiful and worth it. I love the Dinan exhaust on my M3... One of these days I'll get a sound clip of it and post... That sound alone is worth the coin...

Still a believer over here, glad to see others are too... For the haters, go on and hate... Just do it elsewhere...

[Sockethead]

You had a lot of Dinan parts on your ZHP too...

[Galapolis]

Sorry for bumping such an old thread but just wanted to share my experience with a couple Dinan parts I recently bought. I never liked Dinan because of their shady business practices (rebranding parts as their own when they aren't and then overcharging). That hasn't changed, but what also hasn't changed is the fact that no other manufacturer offers a proper aftermarket box intake for M54. Dinan also recently lowered their prices on a lot of older Dinan products (hopefully that doesn't mean they will stop production soon) which was the final incentive I needed to go for the intake.

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My main reason was to get slightly more intake sound while keeping an OEM appearance. Sound is throatier for sure but only starting at 3500rpm. My car is a fairly strict OEM+/Clubsport type build with the only sound "upgrades" being Group N engine mounts, a full ZHP exhaust and removed HVAC/engine sound deadening. All of that created a nice OEM+ sound that I was pretty happy with, but I still wanted to break into Clubsport territory. The Dinan intake does achieve that, though I can see why some people might be disappointed given how it is barely more audible. Just depends on what you are looking to get out of an intake. The Dinan box does deliver what I was looking for.

What I didn't expect was the massive bump in throttle response. That alone probably makes the intake worth it given current pricing ($220 brand new), though to be fair, you get that with any other cone style intake too.

The stage 2 Dinan software to match the intake is $150 and since I had the intake I decided to have that flashed as well. The major selling points are a higher redline, removed top speed limiter, improved throttle response and smooth/predicable power delivery. I'm obviously a sucker for throttle response so a Sprint Booster or Shark Injector have been on my list for a long time. But the Sprint Booster is a whopping $300 and the Shark Injector gets very mixed reviews. So again, depending on expectations I can see why the tune might be disappointing, but to me it delivered what I wanted (improved throttle response in the same manner as the Sprint Booster or Shark Injector) at a lower price than either and with a few bonuses. Been meaning to remove the top speed limiter for years already and the higher redline means I have a reason to finally upgrade to the ZHP cluster with its nice red needles.

Power/butt dyno feels identical so I'm guessing 0hp difference. I expected that though. What did improve is high RPM power delivery/smoothness. The review from page 7 (http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?12977-The-Official-Dinan-Thread&p=356835#post356835) is spot on. The M54b30 is notorious for falling on its face past 4k RPM. The Dinan tune does help with that. Accelerating from low RPMs is also more consistent in terms of power delivery.

As long as you can get the parts for cheap they are OK. Would definitely steer clear of the more expensive parts though.

[san]

Sorry for bumping such an old thread but just wanted to share my experience with a couple Dinan parts I recently bought. I never liked Dinan because of their shady business practices (rebranding parts as their own when they aren't and then overcharging). That hasn't changed, but what also hasn't changed is the fact that no other manufacturer offers a proper aftermarket box intake for M54. Dinan also recently lowered their prices on a lot of older Dinan products (hopefully that doesn't mean they will stop production soon) which was the final incentive I needed to go for the intake.

39007

My main reason was to get slightly more intake sound while keeping an OEM appearance. Sound is throatier for sure but only starting at 3500rpm. My car is a fairly strict OEM+/Clubsport type build with the only sound "upgrades" being Group N engine mounts, a full ZHP exhaust and removed HVAC/engine sound deadening. All of that created a nice OEM+ sound that I was pretty happy with, but I still wanted to break into Clubsport territory. The Dinan intake does achieve that, though I can see why some people might be disappointed given how it is barely more audible. Just depends on what you are looking to get out of an intake. The Dinan box does deliver what I was looking for.

What I didn't expect was the massive bump in throttle response. That alone probably makes the intake worth it given current pricing ($220 brand new), though to be fair, you get that with any other cone style intake too.

The stage 2 Dinan software to match the intake is $150 and since I had the intake I decided to have that flashed as well. The major selling points are a higher redline, removed top speed limiter, improved throttle response and smooth/predicable power delivery. I'm obviously a sucker for throttle response so a Sprint Booster or Shark Injector have been on my list for a long time. But the Sprint Booster is a whopping $300 and the Shark Injector gets very mixed reviews. So again, depending on expectations I can see why the tune might be disappointing, but to me it delivered what I wanted (improved throttle response in the same manner as the Sprint Booster or Shark Injector) at a lower price than either and with a few bonuses. Been meaning to remove the top speed limiter for years already and the higher redline means I have a reason to finally upgrade to the ZHP cluster with its nice red needles.

Power/butt dyno feels identical so I'm guessing 0hp difference. I expected that though. What did improve is high RPM power delivery/smoothness. The review from page 7 (http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?12977-The-Official-Dinan-Thread&p=356835#post356835) is spot on. The M54b30 is notorious for falling on its face past 4k RPM. The Dinan tune does help with that. Accelerating from low RPMs is also more consistent in terms of power delivery.

As long as you can get the parts for cheap they are OK. Would definitely steer clear of the more expensive parts though.

The higher red line is compared with the non zhp M54B30 right? The redline with Dinan software is still 6750 rpm I think?


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[3ZHP]

Sorry for bumping such an old thread but just wanted to share my experience with a couple Dinan parts I recently bought. I never liked Dinan because of their shady business practices (rebranding parts as their own when they aren't and then overcharging). That hasn't changed, but what also hasn't changed is the fact that no other manufacturer offers a proper aftermarket box intake for M54. Dinan also recently lowered their prices on a lot of older Dinan products (hopefully that doesn't mean they will stop production soon) which was the final incentive I needed to go for the intake.

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My main reason was to get slightly more intake sound while keeping an OEM appearance. Sound is throatier for sure but only starting at 3500rpm. My car is a fairly strict OEM+/Clubsport type build with the only sound "upgrades" being Group N engine mounts, a full ZHP exhaust and removed HVAC/engine sound deadening. All of that created a nice OEM+ sound that I was pretty happy with, but I still wanted to break into Clubsport territory. The Dinan intake does achieve that, though I can see why some people might be disappointed given how it is barely more audible. Just depends on what you are looking to get out of an intake. The Dinan box does deliver what I was looking for.

What I didn't expect was the massive bump in throttle response. That alone probably makes the intake worth it given current pricing ($220 brand new), though to be fair, you get that with any other cone style intake too.

The stage 2 Dinan software to match the intake is $150 and since I had the intake I decided to have that flashed as well. The major selling points are a higher redline, removed top speed limiter, improved throttle response and smooth/predicable power delivery. I'm obviously a sucker for throttle response so a Sprint Booster or Shark Injector have been on my list for a long time. But the Sprint Booster is a whopping $300 and the Shark Injector gets very mixed reviews. So again, depending on expectations I can see why the tune might be disappointing, but to me it delivered what I wanted (improved throttle response in the same manner as the Sprint Booster or Shark Injector) at a lower price than either and with a few bonuses. Been meaning to remove the top speed limiter for years already and the higher redline means I have a reason to finally upgrade to the ZHP cluster with its nice red needles.

Power/butt dyno feels identical so I'm guessing 0hp difference. I expected that though. What did improve is high RPM power delivery/smoothness. The review from page 7 (http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?12977-The-Official-Dinan-Thread&p=356835#post356835) is spot on. The M54b30 is notorious for falling on its face past 4k RPM. The Dinan tune does help with that. Accelerating from low RPMs is also more consistent in terms of power delivery.

As long as you can get the parts for cheap they are OK. Would definitely steer clear of the more expensive parts though.

Add the Turner under drive pulleys and it may give you a better edge than the tunehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220419/0a9a631950f43d75b58cee8ca008be04.jpg


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[Galapolis]

The higher red line is compared with the non zhp M54B30 right? The redline with Dinan software is still 6750 rpm I think?


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Yes regular M54, my 330i is a base model as described in my sig.


Add the Turner under drive pulleys and it may give you a better edge than the tune

Was going to get the Rogue pulleys either way. ZHPizza's car actually has the Turner pulleys but it didn't feel like it had an edge over the tune, though it's hard to compare two completely different cars. Additionally, the 3.38 diff already makes a bigger difference than all the parts we have mentioned combined.

[3ZHP]

Yes regular M54, my 330i is a base model as described in my sig.



Was going to get the Rogue pulleys either way. ZHPizza's car actually has the Turner pulleys but it didn't feel like it had an edge over the tune, though it's hard to compare two completely different cars. Additionally, the 3.38 diff already makes a bigger difference than all the parts we have mentioned combined.

I had a very long and in-depth conversation with a DINAN tech/club racer, 10+ years ago when I added my CAI. At the end of that conversation, I never went any further.

Also, over five years ago, I stopped at EAG and took out a DINAN ZHP, with CAI, Throttle Body and Stage III tune. In the car with me was my son and son in law, in their early 30’s. At the end we all fully agreed, that the performance feel on mine was far better. Note, that that was an open opinion and discussion as I drove. It did surprise all of us.


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I had a very long and in-depth conversation with a DINAN tech/club racer, 10+ years ago when I added my CAI. At the end of that conversation, I never went any further.

Also, over five years ago, I stopped at EAG and took out a DINAN ZHP, with CAI, Throttle Body and Stage III tune. In the car with me was my son and son in law, in their early 30’s. At the end we all fully agreed, that the performance feel on mine was far better. Note, that that was an open opinion and discussion as I drove. It did surprise all of us.


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Well I just went ahead and ordered the pulleys. Been wanting those for years too so I guess now is the time. I'll report back.

[Galapolis]

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Finally got around to install the pulleys. It was quite an experience. First I find out that the AC tensioner requires a larger than T50 torx bit to push aside. Forums/Google provide no clear answer on whether it's T55 or T60. Here's the answer: It's T60 but T55 works as well. Of course the hardware stores around me don't carry T55 and bigger anymore. Luckily I was able to find the last one at Advance Auto. Guy there said they stopped carrying/stocking them. No Idea how I replaced the tensioners 2 years ago without the T55 but whatever. So today I actually go do the install and of course both stock pulleys won't come off, even after hitting them repeatedly for half an hour. So I decide to carefully PB blast them and get a wrench behind them and slowly pry them off. Eventually they come off.

After cleaning off all the PB blast I spend the next hour or so trying to get the new belt on. No matter how much force I put into it, I just can't get it on. It feels too short. I wanted to give up so reinstalled all the stock stuff and then couldn't get the stock belt on the stock pulleys either. At this point I think I must be going crazy because I've literally done this before when I replaced the tensioners and had no problems back then. In the end a forum post helped which suggested loosening the idle tensioner as well, getting the belt on, then rotating it back into position. Probably tore a muscle or two but it worked in the end.

Impressions: Throttle response noticeably improved under 4k RPM. Exact same difference as going from the stock intake to Dinan intake and similar difference as going from stock tune to Dinan tune. As you can imagine, all 3 together is pretty nice. ZHPizza would love it. Overall hp feels no different, though I expected that. Interestingly top end (4k-6k RPM) feels no different either. I always heard that's where pulleys really make a difference but I guess not. The real disappointment though is the steering feel. I really wanted heavier steering but it feels exactly the same.

The real improvement for me is the idle behavior. My car has always had major issues when trying to get it rolling in 1st gear. If you didn't give it a ton of throttle it would just stall the engine. Now the transition is much smoother and I barely need to apply any throttle anymore to get the car rolling. Huge quality of life improvement.

So yeah pulleys are definitely recommended, though for the money I would still always do intake + tune first. The pulleys are more expensive and not as good of a value. Everyone always says they should be last on your list and now I understand why. Worth having on the list, just not worth prioritizing. I only did water pump + power steering because I have an overunning alternator pulley (also underdrives) that I've been wanting to install. Maybe that will amplify the effects even more. Also for those worried about the weight, I was surprised by how heavy the stock plastic pulleys were. The metal pulleys are still heavier but not by much. Hopefully bearing wear won't be an issue with only a small weight increase.

[BMWCurves]

Huh...mine definitely required something around or smaller than a T50 for the AC tensioner.

I went to look at my impressions from when I installed my set around January 2018 (http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?15714-William-s-330Ci-ZHP-Maintenance-and-Project-Thread&p=551332#post551332), but I didn't actually fill in my impressions. I can't say I experienced a whole lot of difference, but I felt nothing negative, so I left it in there.

Glad it improved your idle symptoms though!

[3ZHP]

This is the information on the Turner set I installed on 3/7/2009 at 64725 miles. Today the car has 162000 ish.

There are two different alternatives pulleys reductions available and two different alternator applications. One for max reduction and one with less reduction for high powered stereo amplifiers. I have the max reduction and don’t remember what alternator mine has.

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