Official Thread -- Will these wheels fit on my car?

[tripod06]

Can it be done?

Has it been done?

Pictures?

I'm extremely curious as I love those wheels but wonder all the time what they are like on the car.

[mimalmo]

You'll need to roll your fenders and do a little bit of tire stretch to make it work but they can fit. Be prepared to do some work to get them to fit however.


EDIT: wait, I just realized you meant the E9x M3 19" wheels. I was thinking of the E46 M3 19's.

[mimalmo]

Yeah, same thing. Stretched tires and rolled fenders. Those wheels (Style 220) are uber heavy.

[tripod06]

They look really heavy. I wasn't sure what would knee to be done if I was to move forward with them. Does anyone have any pictures of them on an e46? I have seen them on other e9x models but I want to see the look with them on our models.

[mimalmo]

Honestly, I wouldn't do it. They're actually heavier than the OEM ZHP wheels which are already too heavy. Your gas mileage, handling and acceleration will all suffer.

They weigh over 29 pounds each. OEM ZHP wheels weigh about 26.3 pounds each. Three pounds doesn't sound like much but that's 3 pounds in motion. That's a lot of extra weight. It's also not good for all the bushings and such on the car which will wear out sooner due to the increased weight.

[pyreguy]

^this

I am in agreement on this one

[tripod06]

The presented arguments seem very sound. I do love the ZHP wheels.

[Rovert]

Not a ZHP but it'll give you an idea of the looks with 19" 220M wheels:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385/2096130270_9f6a879c42_z.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/2096319838_7eba2f27fc_z.jpg?zz=1

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/2096128938_d4a6e3a00b_z.jpg?zz=1

A sedan with 18" 220M wheels:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/5006531542_9db53b6a83_z.jpg

Coupe with 18" 220M's:
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f82/dj-syxxs-e46-330-coupe-se-t42427/

Here's a sedan with the 18" 260 style wheels:
http://www.vortextuning.com/forum/image/wheels/VT908/VT908_G_E46_ZHP_3.jpg

http://www.vortextuning.com/forum/image/wheels/VT908/VT908_G_E46_ZHP_7.jpg

A coupe with 260's:
http://www.vortextuning.com/forum/image/wheels/VT908/VT908_G_3.jpg

[danewilson77]

Those look :drool

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I am thinking that 19s would be the happy medium for me. The 18s look too small. The 20s look too big.

[danewilson77]

18's look too small? 19's will be a poor ride. I think 18's are the best balance, but 19's do look sick.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I was only talking in terms of looks. If I want best performance (while maintaining some semblance of good looks), I'm going with 17s. :biggrin

[danewilson77]

I was only talking in terms of looks. If I want best performance (while maintaining some semblance of good looks), I'm going with 17s. :biggrin

lol......with 18's on your car? What do you have on the 335i? 19's?

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I have 18s on the ZHP. Stock. But they are heavy. And they do not help performance.

On the 335, which isn't stock, I have 19s. They're also on the heavier side. Also not optimal for performance.

But if I was going for performance, primarily, I'd be going to smaller sized wheels.

I'm not going for performance, though, so the bigger wheels give me the look I'm going for.

[danewilson77]

I have 18s on the ZHP. Stock. But they are heavy. And they do not help performance.

On the 335, which isn't stock, I have 19s. They're also on the heavier side. Also not optimal for performance.

But if I was going for performance, primarily, I'd be going to smaller sized wheels.

I'm not going for performance, though, so the bigger wheels give me the look I'm going for.

+1...I hear ya. You really think the 18's look too small?

[Marcus-SanDiego]

I think that 19s fill out the car more nicely. It's just a preference.

I think 18s are fine, though. Heck, the E39 M5 comes stock with 18s. That looked perfectly fine. But 19s are the win for me.

[az3579]

The problem with 19's is that they leave almost no sidewall. Pothole? Say goodbye to your rim(s).

[mimalmo]

Imma pothole dodging fool.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Imma pothole dodging fool.

I've been rolling 19s for ten years. Never personally bent a wheel. But it's a video game with the wheels when it comes to driving. No lie.

[mimalmo]

Yeah, I have most of the roads I drive memorized for where the potholes and dips are.


Lotsa zig-zagging

[danewilson77]

Ima zig zagger.

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[Rovert]

Having big wheels doesn't always mean they are bad with highly uneven surfaces. What you need to find is a combination of a rigid wheel with a weight that doesn't slow you down too much. Too light and it'll bend. To rigid and it'll be enormously overweight. But if you find the ideal combination to your conditions the wheel will be light enough to absorb energy without bending or shattering.

I've never had a problem with my 19's in 3 years. Drove from Vancouver to LA, and countless miles in town on bumpy roads while driving into potholes large enough to swallow a 14" Corolla wheel. My VMRs are light enough to handle the shock which in turn can distribute energy throughout all it's weight, keeping the wheel from shattering or permanently bending.

Ever noticed that the majority of OEM wheels are pretty heavy? Ever noticed how those wheels rarely bend and break? The car manufacturer would rather not spend valuable time and money replacing/fixing wheels on a car during it's warranty period.

There's a whole science I've learned on lightweight vs rigidity that would surprise most of you here. Lightweight isn't all that it's cracked up to be!! But that's other topic if anyone wants to learn that.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Having big wheels doesn't always mean they are bad with highly uneven surfaces. What you need to find is a combination of a rigid wheel with a weight that doesn't slow you down too much. Too light and it'll bend. To rigid and it'll be enormously overweight. But if you find the ideal combination to your conditions the wheel will be light enough to absorb energy without bending or shattering.

I've never had a problem with my 19's in 3 years. Drove from Vancouver to LA, and countless miles in town on bumpy roads while driving into potholes large enough to swallow a 14" Corolla wheel. My VMRs are light enough to handle the shock which in turn can distribute energy throughout all it's weight, keeping the wheel from shattering or permanently bending.

Ever noticed that the majority of OEM wheels are pretty heavy? Ever noticed how those wheels rarely bend and break? The car manufacturer would rather not spend valuable time and money replacing/fixing wheels on a car during it's warranty period.

There's a whole science I've learned on lightweight vs rigidity that would surprise most of you here. Lightweight isn't all that it's cracked up to be!! But that's other topic if anyone wants to learn that.

Sounds like a new thread, Trevor. I'd love the education if you're willing to share your knowledge.

[az3579]

I kinda figured it would be common sense that a lightweight wheel isn't as strong has a heavy one, but nobody wants to see it the same way. lol
For a daily driven car, a lightweight wheel isn't worth the effort. The impact of negatives is absolutely minimal.

But,
If I had lightweight wheels as the daily set, they'd still be bent because the roads here are so bad you cannot possibly avoid the potholes. In fact, it's guaranteed that you'll hit over 50% of the them.

[Maximus57]

Nice wheels Trevor. I just purchased 19" V710's for my 1er. They are hot looking.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Jeff, be sure to post a picture of them when you have them on.

[spencers]

A sedan with 18" 220M wheels:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/5006531542_9db53b6a83_z.jpg

I bet he doesn't even realize he has bricks strapped to each corner of his car! No good for auto-x.. Though it wouldn't surprise me if they only weighed as much as M135's

[Rovert]

At least he looks quite stylish crossing the finish lap with the slowest time!! LOL

[Hornung418]

haha Waiting for BlockedOut to defend his wheels... :biggrin

[Crickett]

I bet he doesn't even realize he has bricks strapped to each corner of his car! No good for auto-x.. Though it wouldn't surprise me if they only weighed as much as M135's
You're right that the 18s are about the same as our M135s.

(From BMWfans.info)
M68
• 7.5" x 17" ET 41 20.836 lb
• 8.5" x 17" ET 50 21.870 lb
M135
• 8.0" x 18" ET 47 24.749 lb
• 8.5" x 18" ET 50 26.292 lb
M219
• 8.5" x 18" ET 29 25.964 lb
• 9.5" x 18" ET 23 23.226 lb
M220
• 8.5" x 19" ET 29 29.247 lb
• 9.5" x 19" ET 23 29.247 lb

As a side note, I'm pretty set on getting a set of M68s for autoXing . . .

[Hornung418]

As a side note, I'm pretty set on getting a set of M68s for autoXing . . .
Solid choice. 17s are great for track use. If you really are wanting a dedicated set for the track, look into Kosei K1s...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Lee_Vuong/The%20Parts%20Factory/22mai023.jpg
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/Lee_Vuong/The%20Parts%20Factory/22mai023.jpg)

[MsRN]

I ran across a posting for a set of 17" Motorsport wheels from a '95 M3 that I'm tempted to snatch up. They're 7.5x17 and 8.5x17, both et41. The fronts are 1/2" narrower, but the outside mounted width is the same as the front 135s. The rears are 9mm further outboard than the rear 135s, which have an offset of et50. Is that too wide a stance for the ZHP? I'm tempted to buy them and run 17" summers this year; Madison has LOTS of potholes, and these are 19-20# FORGED wheels, which should be more durable than the 135s, no?

Is this a pipe dream, or should I buy them?

[mikeyb74]

I just saw a ZHP with these wheels. They look so out of place on a e46.

[mimalmo]

They will fit.

[bcleaver]

I don't think it's too wide. And agree with Eli, they will fit.

[MsRN]

I just saw a ZHP with these wheels. They look so out of place on a e46.

Hmmm...I'll have to think about that, Mikey...

[mikeyb74]

Hmmm...I'll have to think about that, Mikey...

Don't my opinion change your mind. I love these wheels on e36s.

Do you have a link to the ad?

[MsRN]

Don't my opinion change your mind. I love these wheels on e46s.

Do you have a link to the ad?

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/2270158651.html

I think it's a stock photo, but it gives you the idea, I think.

[danewilson77]

Definetely unique.......

Might be kinda cool.

[mikeyb74]

Picked them up. If you don't like them I am sure you could unload them pretty easily.

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=278031&d=1216060570

http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=277695&d=1215727687

http://www.ethirty.com/album/albums/My%20Cars/00%20323iT/Home/normal_PICT8724.JPG

http://www.ethirty.com/album/albums/My%20Cars/00%20323iT/Home/normal_PICT8717.JPG

[danewilson77]

I like em.

[MsRN]

That's a nice wagon, Mikey! I like the M-Tech II bumper on it. Are those the 8.5 x 17s in back? Clearance isn't at all bad!

[az3579]

Those are DS-I wheels from a 95 M3. I personally think DS-II's are more appropriate on an E46...

You'll have to look at the wheels on an e36 in the following link. I would look for a pic of one on an e46 but my connection right now is painfully slow...

http://www.google.com/m/search?q=ds-ii+e46&pbx=1&aq=f&oq=&aqi=-k0d0t0&fkt=2359&fsdt=7854&htf=&his=&site=images&gl=us&client=ms-android-verizon&source=mog&csll=&action=&ltoken=4dba6948#i=21

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[mikeyb74]

That's a nice wagon, Mikey! I like the M-Tech II bumper on it. Are those the 8.5 x 17s in back? Clearance isn't at all bad!

Not my wagon. I found the pics on e46f.

[04ZHP_PDX]

Hey guys,
It's been a while since I have been able to post. I've missed you :p...but work must be done :)!

I am looking for a second set of wheels/tires and I am pretty sure that these wheels (Apex Arc-8 17x9) will fit our cars, but I am not 100% sure. Right now, they are on an e36 M3. Seem like a pretty good deal (considering wheels alone are about $900) and these only weigh about 17lbs per corner.

Link to the BF post: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1626607
Link to the Apex website: http://www.apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-17x9-Wheel_p_17.html
Link to tires on Tire Rack: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS&partnum=44WR7ECDWS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
Does anyone have experience with these wheels? Will they hold up against everyday driving?

Thanks for the help guys...I'll try not to be a stranger!

[mikeyb74]

They should fit. Alittle wide for the front.

[danewilson77]

I believe Gheybe has experience with these wheels. As they are forged, they should hold up well....I would think. Don't know about 9" rims in the front though.

[04ZHP_PDX]

That was my concern as well. Don't really want to have to roll the fender, but I love the wheels. What are my other concerns about being too wide in the front (rubbing on suspension pieces, handling, etc.)? Hmmm...what to do, what to do!

[danewilson77]

I bet you would rub on the coilovers/struts in the front.....which means you would have to use spacers....which means you would need to roll/pull fenders. What was the offset on those?

[04ZHP_PDX]

Wheel specs:

Diameter: 17" | Width: 9" | Offset: 42mm | Lug Pattern: 5x120mm | Centerbore: 72.6mm | Weight: 17.4lbs~

[danewilson77]

Its a proper offset.....but as I remember...when I glanced at the pics...it looked as though the front tire was out past the fender in the front.

You have 135's now?

[04ZHP_PDX]

Correct. Just looking for a second set/lightweight/track set.

[danewilson77]

ok......so...in the front you have an 18X8" rim currently with an offset of ET47 from...

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=EV53&mospid=47725&btnr=36_0688&hg=36&fg=15

Take your current info, and bounce it against your desired info in this calculator....

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?527-Wheel-Fitment-101

Which yields that your inner clearance would be 8mm less. Outer clearance would extend 18mm.

So now ask yourself the questions..."Do I want my tire to extend 18mm, beyond where its at now?"

And

"Do I have 8mm of inner clearance to the strut/coil?"

If either answer is no..................PASS.

[04ZHP_PDX]

Awesome help! Thanks Dane! I'll have to some measurments tonight! Don't want donuts, but might flush it up a bit!

[mimalmo]

Not sure how it would be with your stock suspension but I can speak about how it would work with my car (lowered on KW V2's).

The 9" fronts I am currently running are ET48. I've got a 10mm spacer on there but need to get a 15mm because when the wheel is fully locked for a turn, I get a slight rub on the inside. Thankfully, the little bit of normal driving I do (to and from the airport) doesn't require fully-locked turns. I tried a friend's 15mm spacers on and I can tell you that the wheel was very flush to the fender.

What's your goals? Daily driver wheels, track wheels, etc?

[04ZHP_PDX]

Thanks Eli,

Overall, the goal is to have a versatile wheel that will handle occassional track use, but most of the time (99.9%) will be used in DD situations. Most of my daily driving is done on the highway, so pretty easy driving.

[mimalmo]

Any plans to lower it with coilovers or springs?

[04ZHP_PDX]

No. Not at this time.

[mimalmo]

You could probably get away with a 245 or 255 series tire. I would avoid tires that have the big, chunky, squared-off sidewalls since they will increase your chances of rubbing. Note that I'm thinking you'll only have rubbing on the inside front but, find out who can roll your rear fenders locally just in case.

I would also have a plan in place for a 5mm to 10mm spacer set with extended bolts in case you do get rubbing. Both Turner and ECS Tuning have them but usually include silver lug bolts unless you ask for black. I'm not saying to order spacers, just have a plan in place in case you need to.


Can you tell I like to have contingency plans? That's because I've screwed up in the past.

[04ZHP_PDX]

Again...the mafia comes through!!

I am going to go home a measure my current setup against Dane's post earlier. I have a feeling that these should fit nicely, but will definitely have a contingency plan! Thanks for all the help guys...and of course, if I buy, pics will follow shortly thereafter!

[danewilson77]

17x8 ET 20 Style 71's.

These should fit fine on a 2000 328Ci, correct.

Below guy had the style 71's on a 2001 330i....18x8 front, and 18x8.5 rear.

Just need to hear a few heck ya's.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479812

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/IMG_6316.jpg

Thanks

DW77

P.S. I have done the calculations. The calculations don't exactly jive with the pics and reviews I am finding.

[mdfiasco]

To point out, the offset on the wheels shown at bimmerfest look like a 40-something offset. Note the absence of the 2" lip.

[danewilson77]

Copy.....

I don't think the ones I have, have a 2" lip. Iwill have to look when I get home. Guess I didn't realize they were offered in many different offsets.

Thanks.

Droid + Tapatalk = FTW!

[Crickett]

:dunno I don't see any ET 20 style 71s listed: http://felgenkatalog.auto-treff.com/?felge=710

As far as styling, I've never personally been a fan of the two-piece, bolts-on-the-rim look. But that's just me.

[mdfiasco]

If yours don't have the 2" lip, I bet they're not ET20. If not, my Ci will be screamin' sexy by Wednesday!

[mdfiasco]

:dunno I don't see any ET 20 style 71s listed: http://felgenkatalog.auto-treff.com/?felge=710

As far as styling, I've never personally been a fan of the two-piece, bolts-on-the-rim look. But that's just me.

Look again, the 5-series were ET20, and that is what is shown in the picture. The rest don't have that wide lip.

[Crickett]

Look again, the 5-series were ET20, and that is what is shown in the picture. The rest don't have that wide lip.
D'oh; I didn't look that far down. :facepalm

As you were.

[danewilson77]

OK...so...are we confident they didn't make a style 71 for E46?

[Crickett]

OK...so...are we confident they didn't make a style 71 for E46?
No, they did; the non-staggered, 17" E46 ones are ET 47. The others are ET 41 or 50. http://felgenkatalog.auto-treff.com/?felge=710

[mdfiasco]

I concur fully. Just gotta figure out what you got at home now.

[danewilson77]

OK....I swear he ordered the ET20. LOL.....but I swear when I looked at them last...there is no 2" lip.

I will look and post up some pics....today...when I get home.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

When you get home, you should be able to find the ET stamp. If you have a small lip, you don't have ET20. I'm now curious to see what you do have.

[mdfiasco]

I'm hopeful again...fingers crossed for no ET20.

[mimalmo]

If they're only 8" wide, ET20 should work on a stock suspension as long as someone doesn't try to do super fatty tires.

[danewilson77]

OK...here's the pic....and I agree with Eli...

Looks like the lip is a lil over an inch?

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20110422_160808.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20110422_160815.jpg

[danewilson77]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20110422_165306.jpg

Looks like it says "8Jx17H2 IS20".......20 is prolly the offset.

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20110422_165317-1.jpg

[Johnmadd]

OK...here's the pic....and I agree with Eli...

Looks like the lip is a lil over an inch?

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20110422_160808.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/IMG_20110422_160815.jpg

Ha, that rim has the dip on the lip, very clever pic. Ok was cruising craigslist and seen these

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc407/johnmadd1979/WBABM5342YJP02266-2000-BMW-328-CI-1.jpg
http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc407/johnmadd1979/WBABM5342YJP02266-2000-BMW-328-CI.jpg
I think they are the same ones.

[mimalmo]

Those look like Style 68's.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Yep. IS20 is the offset. That's a 20mm offset.

[Johnmadd]

Alrighty then.

[spencers]

I still wonder why ECS ordered a bunch of weird offset wheels.

[danewilson77]

So Eli......you think those would fit fine with a 235 square setup?

[mimalmo]

Yes, with standard suspension, 235 is probably the way to go. If someone is going for a stanced look on a slammed car, I'd go much skinnier.

[danewilson77]

225's?

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[mimalmo]

If they are only 8" wide, a 205 series tire with a serious drop would be a very good start for someone wanting that look.

Here's a 205 on an 8" wide wheel.

http://tyrestretch.com/cache/8_205_40_R17/8_205_40_R17_2_595.jpg

[danewilson77]

Damn that looks hawt!

Droid + Tapatalk = FTW!

[mdfiasco]

Dane, if it's cool we can do a test fit this week. There are few to no examples of 8x17 et 20 on an e46, I'm not a fan of stretch, so that will be a deal breaker.

[danewilson77]

Sure........whenever.

[the xecutionr]

wait wait wait... the style 260 rims are those the e9x 18" m3 rims and do they actually fit our cars... if so i want them

[mimalmo]

wait wait wait... the style 260 rims are those the e9x 18" m3 rims and do they actually fit our cars... if so i want them

Not the OEM Style 260's without modifying the fenders and running skinnier tires. There are a couple manufacturers that make replicas though.

Rears are 9.5" wide ET23. That's some fairly aggressive fitment.

[the xecutionr]

i might be willing to do that. i really like the concave look of the rears


Not the OEM Style 260's without modifying the fenders and running skinnier tires. There are a couple manufacturers that make replicas though.

Rears are 9.5" wide ET23. That's some fairly aggressive fitment.

[mimalmo]

Personally, I think that there are better looking wheels that don't require as much effort and are much cheaper.

If you are stuck on doing it though, I'm sure it can be done.

[bimmeryota]

This has been an interesting thread for me to look through since I've been wondering a lot about wheel weights lately. I finally just got my 19 inch CSL reps in (2 month wait) and was wondering how the weight was going to affect the car. I have a non-ZHP with stock 18s (style 72) and I notice a difference when I put my M68's on for autoX or track. I've been on the 17s for a couple of months now and now I'm about to jump up to 19s...it sounds like it will be REALLY noticeable. I also just installed a PSS10 suspension, do you think I'll have to adjust damping at all for these 19s? I've got them set on 7 right now and it rides really nice!

[tripod06]

I love the 220M style wheel. I wouldn't use them for daily driving but maybe if a meet came up or an event of some sort that was worth the time to change them out and all. There was a vendor at BimmerFest that sold mods at cheaper prices and I can't remember the name for the life of me right now. Anyone who went to BimmerFest please feel free to chime in anytime; but I saw the 220M style and debated getting them. I really want the staggered look too. I'm also in debate about the CSLs too. Out of those two i don't know what would be better as far as looks since I love them both. Opinions on 220 m to CSLs?

[bimmeryota]

I chose the CSL look because I think that on BMW's you cannot go wrong with a mesh look and is modern enough but with good staying power from a style standpoint. I'm always going to be swapping back and forth with my 17s (and maybe even the 18s now!) I'm getting my tires on thursday and will be sure to share some photos.

[MsRN]

I kinda figured it would be common sense that a lightweight wheel isn't as strong has a heavy one, but nobody wants to see it the same way. lol
For a daily driven car, a lightweight wheel isn't worth the effort. The impact of negatives is absolutely minimal.

But,
If I had lightweight wheels as the daily set, they'd still be bent because the roads here are so bad you cannot possibly avoid the potholes. In fact, it's guaranteed that you'll hit over 50% of the them.

Hmmm...

I have to wonder: if a wheel is lighter (say, for example, 20-30% lighter) but built more strongly (i.e. low-pressure cast vs. gravity-cast), won't the wheels decreased inertia and improved interactions with suspension components make it less likely to be damaged versus the heavier wheel? And wouldn't it also have increased elasticity over the heavy wheel, and thus better shed energy than the heavier wheel, which would absorb more energy and thus be more prone to bending?

Just thinking, cause I'm about to buy Terrys wheels....

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Just thinking, cause I'm about to buy Terrys wheels....

Nice wheels.

[MsRN]

Nice wheels.

Absolutely. I had them in 17"x8" squared on my 325iT before it was wrecked. They were a nice upgrade over the 16" Style 45s.

As much as this thread worried me, I can see few logical reasons not to go with the Oz wheels for daily driving. They're light, strong, and look great on the e46. They're also the fastest way I know to lose 40#! :)

Resistance is futile... :)

[Marcus-SanDiego]

They're also the fastest way I know to lose 40#! :)

Resistance is futile... :)

:chuck

[MsRN]

Glad the testosterone crowd approve! :theman Every girl needs at least one (ten) pair of nice shoes, and Miss ZHP is no exception. And the Oz motif will go with the patent red clogs I wear at work! :wub

Glinda the Good Witch Approved (Or maybe Elphaeba :devilish )

[Marcus-SanDiego]

You know we support you in whatever you do, Michele.

[Terry]

haha, thanks for the plug on the wheels, Marcus.

Michele, glad you're still considering. I have found some wheel boxes. I will be at the track early tomorrow (Friday) through Sunday and may not have internet access. Can PM you my phone #. Don't worry though, not going up with your potential new wheels. I am crewing for old friends (and networking for potential job opps :).

Going to weigh the wheels before I do box them though. Wondering if / how far off the manufactured claimed weights are.

-Terry

[MsRN]

PM sent, Terry. Let me know!

[Terry]

sent you an email, Michele.

Sorry to hijack the thread, folks.

[tripod06]

no worries Terry! where you been?! we miss you!

[MsRN]

Going to weigh the wheels before I do box them though. Wondering if / how far off the manufactured claimed weights are.

-Terry

If the wheel weight spreadsheet I downloaded is at all accurate (http://wheelweights.net/), 135s weigh 28.5# and 29#, front and rear, respectively. So the Superleggera weights would have to be WAAAAAY off for them to NOT be substantially lighter. Hopefully, I'm correct about their durability, as finding replacements might be tough...

Good luck with the job hunt, Terry!

[MsRN]

Email received, two sent, Terry!

Sorry for the threadjack too, everyone! :threadjack

[az3579]

If the wheel weight spreadsheet I downloaded is at all accurate (http://wheelweights.net/), 135s weigh 28.5# and 29#, front and rear, respectively. So the Superleggera weights would have to be WAAAAAY off for them to NOT be substantially lighter. Hopefully, I'm correct about their durability, as finding replacements might be tough...

Good luck with the job hunt, Terry!

Ultraleggeras in 18x8 and 18x9 weigh 18.6lbs and 20.8lbs front and back, respectively.

[kayger12]

Glinda the Good Witch Approved (Or maybe Elphaeba :devilish )

A Wicked fan?-- you just moved another step towards the top of my list.

[az3579]

A Wicked fan?-- you just moved another step towards the top of my list.

Wicked is only one of the best shows running today, period. :biggrin

[MsRN]

Gregory Maguires not a bad author, either. He hooked me with Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060987529/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=zhpcom-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399349&creativeASIN=0060987529), a revisionist version of a rather saccharine old fairy tale. Fun!

[johnrando]

I saw some wheels for sale that I liked, but I don't know the first thing about offset, ET, whatever. Will these fit a stock ZHP set up? (but likely going to H&R springs with Biltsteins). I'm guessing maybe a fender roll would be needed? Anything I'm missing, I'm a total noobie when it comes to wheels.

19x8.5 +37 front and 19x9.5 +35 rear

[mimalmo]

Run a 255/30/19 rear and roll the fenders. Front fits no problem with a 225/35/19

[johnrando]

Thanks Eli!

[Rovert]

If I make my rear wheels 10mm out from +45 original, how much fender roll do I need? I rolled them but I guess not enough...LOL. Does ET35 just require a ton more modification? I don't want this to be a huge project...but I do love the 35 look as long as I can drive quickly and corner fast with a load...if I can't do it then I won't do it. I need low and quick, not low and slow. LOL

[mimalmo]

IIRC Trevor, you have some fairly wide tires out back so you'll need to get the fenders rolled as flat as possible.

[Rovert]

I was so scared of losing that vertical crease as I rolled the inside lip. I didn't want to create a bulge that looked nasty. What's the secret? I was using the official bolt to the hub roller along with a heat gun and a friend pressing on the outside of the paint as the roller pressed against the inside.

[cparker]

I'm looking for a lightweight wheel to use for the winter time. Would refinish them black. It shows up as one of the wheels available for the 2004 330Ci on RealOEM.

They need to be refinished, the guy is asking $250 for them with trashed tires. Fair price? I was thinking $200 if he pulls the tires first.


1166

[danewilson77]

Yes.

If you have a 330i...thay have to be 17" I believe.

[billschusteriv]

I am not sure if Style 44's came in a size and offset other than what was offered on the 2004 330Ci (8JX17 ET:47).

If they are the same part number (36111094506) - some part of which should be stamped/cast on the back... then they should fit... I would just confirm the size and offset is as expected.

[Hornung418]

These will fit any e46. Get them refinished and paint them an obnoxious neon color ;)

RootedDROIDXstatus. Come at me, bro.

[cparker]

The add confirms that they are a 17" wheel. What's a good price for a set of 44's that need refinishing?

[billschusteriv]

:dunno

I paid about $200 (plus shipping) for a set of four (4) Style 73's that had some rash with trashed tires.

[spencers]

$200 seems reasonable.

[quikryptonite]

So any 17" wheel will clear the ZHP brakes?

I have been looking at these:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=15987276&cat=600&lpid=1&search=bmw

and these:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=16061385&cat=600&lpid=0&search=bmw

as possible winter wheels.

[Hornung418]

Honestly, for winter wheels the less spokes the better. The radials will be a bitch to keep clean. The Y-spokes might be a lil easier, but the 44s are the easiest ;)

RootedDROIDXstatus. Come at me, bro.

[Crickett]

So any 17" wheel will clear the ZHP brakes?
Correct, any 17" will fit; there are very few (but not none) 16"s that will.

Tapatalk on Jailbroken iOS: dhu eet!

[quikryptonite]

Correct, any 17" will fit; there are very few (but not none) 16"s that will.



Cool, thanks. I'll keep searching for some 44's here locally. I don't think I can afford to get them shipped. ;)

[quikryptonite]

Hey guys can you help me out? I am looking at these: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=16196563&cat=600&lpid=&search=bmw m3 for my winter setup. Is this guy charging way too much? Has anyone seen this style on the ZHP before? TIA.

[Hornung418]

Teresa has contours on her ZHP in winter. They will fit as long as they are OEM and not a replica.

[lilcdkey]

I'm getting an amazing deal on a new set of these wheels. Will these fit my ZHP and stock tires?

18 x 8
5 x 120

http://dragwheels.com/product.asp?ID=140

[danewilson77]

I'm getting an amazing deal on a new set of these wheels. Will these fit my ZHP and stock tires?

18 x 8
5 x 120

http://dragwheels.com/product.asp?ID=140

Yes sir....mine are 18x8 ET45....

Those look to be ET40.

Remember...you can always use the fitment calculator.

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?527-Wheel-Fitment-101

Moved thread to wheel forum.

[az3579]

Yes, but you will probably have to roll your fender lips. My track wheels are et40 and the fronts don't rub (front lips are rolled though), and the rears do, as those aren't rolled yet.

If you have a stock suspension, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[lilcdkey]

Okay so they'll fit FOR SURE right you guys? I am on stock suspension for now.

[lilcdkey]

Also, it doesnt matter that the stock set up is staggered and this is square, right?

[danewilson77]

Hang tight...calculating to give you a precise perspective.

Rears are 18x8.5 ET 51....

[danewilson77]

You will precisely have 17mm more clearance on the inner, and the outer edge of your tire will be 5mm "more out" from where it is now. This is due to the slight change in offset, but the 1/2" lose in rim width.

[lilcdkey]

lol so they'll fit but they'll poke out a little more?

[danewilson77]

lol so they'll fit but they'll poke out a little more?

Yes sir. They will poke out 5mm more. Go measure.

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[lilcdkey]

I <3 you DW.

[danewilson77]

I <3 you DW.

Backatchya

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[goofiefoot]

Zaid, is this "amazing deal" a local buddy deal, or is it something public? I really like the look of these wheels, and the offset sounds like it would do well with our cars.

[lilcdkey]

Zaid, is this "amazing deal" a local buddy deal, or is it something public? I really like the look of these wheels, and the offset sounds like it would do well with our cars.

It is a local deal, but these wheels are pretty reasonably priced in general. Check em out. Drag DR-37's.

[jreyes19]

i am probably late to this thread but they should fit with no problem, because of the set-up i run
i have a 325i facelift sedan and am running
19x8.5 et35 front
19x9.5 et33 rear
i had to roll the rear fender but i am running OEM alignment specs and have no rubbing
for reference i have
stock non-sport suspension about .5 inch higher
and 235/35/19
245/35/19 tire sizes

now my rims are pushing it on my car and i do not rub that is why i have faith in your new rims fitting lol
hope i helped

[danewilson77]

i am probably late to this thread but they should fit with no problem, because of the set-up i run
i have a 325i facelift sedan and am running
19x8.5 et35 front
19x9.5 et33 rear
i had to roll the rear fender but i am running OEM alignment specs and have no rubbing
for reference i have
stock non-sport suspension about .5 inch higher
and 235/35/19
245/35/19 tire sizes

now my rims are pushing it on my car and i do not rub that is why i have faith in your new rims fitting lol
hope i helped

Good data J. Thanks. You should put this in the stance thread as well.

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[Gheybe]

Just saw this thread.


I have 18x9 all around. 255/35 with 5mm spacers up front to clear my struts.

[mimalmo]

What's the offset Gabe?

[bimmeryota]

According to the BMW site, these are for a newer build date for the E92. Is there a difference and any reason that these will not fit our E46s?

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/ProductDetail.aspx?CategoryType=Accessories&ProductId=2741&perf=true

If I go to a factory wheel, I'd love to put these on my sedan one day...

[mimalmo]

You may need to lightly roll your rear fenders but yes, those wil fit.

[bimmeryota]

OK, I was wondering if there was some difference in the bolt pattern (doesn't sound like there is) & backspacing. Anybody know what the backspacing is on these wheels?

[mimalmo]

The offset is listed in the link you provided. Backspacing on a 9" rim isn't going to be a problem. It's the offset that will matter.

[tripod06]

okay so update i am now wanting the 19" VMR VB3 CSL reps. what sizes would fit with MINIMAL work to the body?

[mimalmo]

19x8.5 ET35 front
19x9.5 ET45 rear

[Rovert]

If you want a more aggressive looking rear Eli, can you go with a square 19x8.5 ET35 setup with 235 or 245's?

[mimalmo]

You could but the offset would need to be lower than that if you were going for an aggressive look.

[Rovert]

ET35 is perfect for the back to be close to flush without doing much to the fenders other than a simple roll! ET is soft porn and ET45 is well....G rated. :P

[mimalmo]

10mm = about 0.4 inches.

So, while the 9.5" ET45 wheel sits in .4" as compared to the 8.5" ET35 wheel, it's a full inch wider so it actually sits further out.

[bimmeryota]

Wow, I totally missed that...I hope that someone scores some of these and posts up some pics with them!

[UdubBadger]

You can get um from Tischer BMW for a decent price (no OEM rim is decently priced though).

[tripod06]

ET35 is perfect for the back to be close to flush without doing much to the fenders other than a simple roll! ET is soft porn and ET45 is well....G rated. :P

wait wait wait so should i go ET35 for rear for a good flush look (cause that is what i am going for) or 45? i am wanting the concavity of the rears to show. not a huge amount but enough to be like, "oh yeah they're staggered."

and what tire sizes would be recommended?

[Marcus-SanDiego]

We had a bunch of "Will this wheel fit on my car" threads, so now we have an official one.

You're in it.

[tripod06]

Thanks Marcus! Good idea! Took me a minute to find this here haha.

But I was looking at my wheels and everything now, I see why the offset in the back is more than the front. Kinda stinks only because I am really wanting a concave look to it.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Good luck finding the right set.

[mimalmo]

9.5" wide ET45 will give you a pretty good concave look.

Mine with 9.5" ET45 rears.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/mimalmo/August%2029th%202009%20BMW%20Meet/P1020596.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/mimalmo/RockFalls.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/mimalmo/RockFalls2.jpg

[johnrando]

Curious as to what a square setup closest to OEM would be with wheels and tire size (with no fender rolling, standard (or maybe a 1" lowered with a cup kit) suspension? Obviously OEM is staggered, but would it be as simple as matching rears and putting them on the front?

[danewilson77]

Thanks Marcus! Good idea! Took me a minute to find this here haha.

But I was looking at my wheels and everything now, I see why the offset in the back is more than the front. Kinda stinks only because I am really wanting a concave look to it.

Describe to me what a "concave look" is.

[mimalmo]

1. hollowed or rounded inward like the inside of a bowl
2. arched in : curving in —used of the side of a curve or surface on which neighboring normals to the curve or surface converge and on which lies the chord joining two neighboring points of the curve or surface


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concave

[tripod06]

1. hollowed or rounded inward like the inside of a bowl
2. arched in : curving in —used of the side of a curve or surface on which neighboring normals to the curve or surface converge and on which lies the chord joining two neighboring points of the curve or surface


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concave

Exactly. I'll post a picture of the look I'm ideally going for.

[tripod06]

See the fronts are more straight while the back are slightly bent I ward as it reaches the center of the wheel?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/racesnos/333550cd.jpg

[mimalmo]

Curious as to what a square setup closest to OEM would be with wheels and tire size (with no fender rolling, standard (or maybe a 1" lowered with a cup kit) suspension? Obviously OEM is staggered, but would it be as simple as matching rears and putting them on the front?

Hey John, got your PM but answering here for all to see.

Probably the easiest would be a 17x8.5 or 18x8.5 with an offset in the 35 to 40ish range. I'm also a big fan of what Apex has done on their ARC-8's where you can get a 9" wide wheel with an offset of 42 which works great with fat tires used in track setups.


As with all wheel & tire combos, it's hard to predict what will or won't need a fender rolling. I encourage anyone that wants to fit aftermarket wheels to get their fenders rolled. When done by an experienced person, there is no damage to the car or paint and it is impossible to tell if the fenders have been rolled by looking at the outside of the car.

[danewilson77]

1. hollowed or rounded inward like the inside of a bowl
2. arched in : curving in —used of the side of a curve or surface on which neighboring normals to the curve or surface converge and on which lies the chord joining two neighboring points of the curve or surface


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concave

This is describing the wheel and not the stance....correct?

[johnrando]

Hey John, got your PM but answering here for all to see.

Probably the easiest would be a 17x8.5 or 18x8.5 with an offset in the 35 to 40ish range. I'm also a big fan of what Apex has done on their ARC-8's where you can get a 9" wide wheel with an offset of 42 which works great with fat tires used in track setups.


As with all wheel & tire combos, it's hard to predict what will or won't need a fender rolling. I encourage anyone that wants to fit aftermarket wheels to get their fenders rolled. When done by an experienced person, there is no damage to the car or paint and it is impossible to tell if the fenders have been rolled by looking at the outside of the car.

Great info, thanks. Would the front 225/40/18 or rear 255/35/18 tire size make more sense?

[johnrando]

This is describing the wheel and not the stance....correct?

Correct.

[danewilson77]

OK.....that's what I thought...

[Rovert]

And this is stance....my friend's S55.... it's drop dead gawjus!

http://www.artofstance.com/2011/07/31/the-600hp-mercedes-s55-sleeper/

[mimalmo]

Great info, thanks. Would the front 225/40/18 or rear 255/35/18 tire size make more sense?

I'd do 255's or 245's all around

[danewilson77]

And this is stance....my friend's S55.... it's drop dead gawjus!

http://www.artofstance.com/2011/07/31/the-600hp-mercedes-s55-sleeper/

Awesome car. It has curtains.

[Gheybe]

What's the offset Gabe?

42, not counting the 5mm spacers up front.

[tripod06]

9.5" wide ET45 will give you a pretty good concave look.

Mine with 9.5" ET45 rears.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/mimalmo/August%2029th%202009%20BMW%20Meet/P1020596.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/mimalmo/RockFalls.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/mimalmo/RockFalls2.jpg

what are your front offsets at?

i was talking to a guy from VMR and he talked about ET33 rear and ET45 front

[Rovert]

ET33 would be sooo nice!! Eli's front offset in those pictures look to be the stock ET35 the wheel has to offer.

ET33 would require thinner tires and rolled fenders and maybe removal of the rear bumper clip which isn't really needed. It was be so nice and flush that you'd look back a second time as you walked away!

[mimalmo]

what are your front offsets at?

I was talking to a guy from VMR and he talked about ET33 rear and ET45 front

I think you may have those offsets confused. 8.5" ET33 front and 9.5" ET45 rear sounds more likely.

My front offset in those pics was ET35

[tripod06]

ET33 would be sooo nice!! Eli's front offset in those pictures look to be the stock ET35 the wheel has to offer.

ET33 would require thinner tires and rolled fenders and maybe removal of the rear bumper clip which isn't really needed. It was be so nice and flush that you'd look back a second time as you walked away!

this is how i want them to look... buddy just got his yesterday and it pushing me more and more to get them

now i understand that his model and mine dont compare in the stock offsets but this is the look i am going for here

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/racesnos/59fa7e74.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/racesnos/529db9be.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/racesnos/7f70248a.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/racesnos/ec80052f.jpg

[goofiefoot]

I found THESE (http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/pts/2619265575.html) on craigslist and think they would work well. The seller's been slow to respond, but here's what I've heard so far:

These are factory 335i rims (style 197, I think).

I asked if the wheels themselves were staggered, and he said no, just the tires (shouldn't they have been staggered on the 335?)

Tires are Federal Super Street(?) with about 90% tread.

Rims have scuffs, but no other damage (asked for better pics).

If these are 18x8 not staggered rims, I would LOVE to put these on my car. With the difference in tire size, I'm wondering if someone is stretching the rears on 18x8.5's and the seller just doesn't know any better. I'm assuming either way they would fit well. Thoughts?

[mimalmo]

Those do look like Style 197's. If correct, they are definitely staggered.

18x8 ET34
18x8.5 ET37

[pleasecorrupt]

19 INCH BY 8.5 INCH, 5 X 120 OFFSET OR 32MM, will they fit if I get fenders rolled? also how does non staggered look look on our cars? :3

[mimalmo]

Non-staggered is nice because you can rotate the wheels & tires and it gets rid of a bit of understeer.

Those should fit, depending on tires chosen and ride height with a fender roll.

[pleasecorrupt]

thanks eli. had found a steal on a set of bbs cx-rs and seller sold them already :(

[Hermes]

Albert I got an idea for you...


Install bags and run some 14"
Daytons

http://www.daytonwheel.com/images/new_nav/bmw-z4.jpg

[mimalmo]

No.

[tripod06]

Albert I got an idea for you...


Install bags and run some 14"
Daytons

http://www.daytonwheel.com/images/new_nav/bmw-z4.jpg

DUDE!! where did you find these!? i've been searching all over haha!!

seriously though, i really want to know, PLEASE ANSWER THIS,

will 19 x 8.5 et45 front and 19 x 9.5 et33 rear will they fit with the fenders rolled?

[Hermes]

That wide might need the GTR wide body kit and I don't know if they make one for 4dr

[jreyes19]

DUDE!! where did you find these!? i've been searching all over haha!!

seriously though, i really want to know, PLEASE ANSWER THIS,

will 19 x 8.5 et45 front and 19 x 9.5 et33 rear will they fit with the fenders rolled?

Yup they will fit, and they will look flush :), i have that setup and i love it
camber will need to be set lower than -1 maybe -1.5 or so (which is in specs i believe) and you will not rub

EDIT: but you must roll fenders, don't forget before rolling fenders to get in there and take out all that black
rubber gunk just behind fender lip

[tripod06]

Yup they will fit, and they will look flush :), i have that setup and i love it
camber will need to be set lower than -1 maybe -1.5 or so (which is in specs i believe) and you will not rub

EDIT: but you must roll fenders, don't forget before rolling fenders to get in there and take out all that black
rubber gunk just behind fender lip

thank you very much sir. i had the opportunity to get these wheels at a HUGE STEAL! but had to pass it up cause i didn't know if they would clear or not. do you have a thread with more pix of your car and the wheels?

[Hermes]

Hey Albert, I saw you checking out this car when we were at VIP Tint...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/9-18-11/DSC_9727.jpg

[tripod06]

DUDE! the paint on that thing was insane!!! i might have been distracted though by the females serving imitation energy drinks...

[jreyes19]

thank you very much sir. i had the opportunity to get these wheels at a HUGE STEAL! but had to pass it up cause i didn't know if they would clear or not. do you have a thread with more pix of your car and the wheels?

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?4547-Hello-From-South-Florida&highlight=south+florida
here is my welcome thread with old pictures but my wheels are, staggared 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 et45 and 33
the thread should have my tire sizes and rim specs as well
check it out and let me know if you have any questions

EDIT: also I am running stock suspension, lowered suspension will require more negative camber

[jreyes19]

Hey Albert, I saw you checking out this car when we were at VIP Tint...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/9-18-11/DSC_9727.jpg

wow
but in all honestly how do people run such extreme negative camber without wearing your tires in an extremely weird fashion lol
and the rims would probably scrape the fender if it took a hard corner

[mimalmo]

wow
but in all honestly how do people run such extreme negative camber without wearing your tires in an extremely weird fashion lol
and the rims would probably scrape the fender if it took a hard corner

Low & slow usually is the key with setups like that. Also, they don't expect the tires to last. I know a couple guys that get 3k miles out of a set of tires (or less).

Also worth mentioning that they are not daily driven.

[Hermes]

ummm... splain?

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/jreyes19/rims/SAM_0252.jpg

TO...

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/jreyes19/rims/SAM_0250-1-1.jpg

[jreyes19]

ummm... splain?

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/jreyes19/rims/SAM_0252.jpg

TO...

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc385/jreyes19/rims/SAM_0250-1-1.jpg

what do you want explained?
I know I need to update my pics with my new emblems, AE wired better, and need clearer pictures lmao
the graininess in my sig was on purpose that i did in photobucket editing but still all bad pictures lol

[jreyes19]

Low & slow usually is the key with setups like that. Also, they don't expect the tires to last. I know a couple guys that get 3k miles out of a set of tires (or less).

Also worth mentioning that they are not daily driven.

lol i just dont see the point in a car if your not driving it i guess lol
but hey if you got the money go for it

and wow 3k only!!!!!
well i guess if they dont drive alot it will last a while

[mimalmo]

It's no different than my cousin with his 1930's era slammed street rod. It's not driven regularly and it's more about form than function.

[Hermes]

I was more asking why no love for red?

[jreyes19]

It's no different than my cousin with his 1930's era slammed street rod. It's not driven regularly and it's more about form than function.

i see


I was more asking why no love for red?
oh idk just tried doing something different on my sig lol

[tripod06]

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?4547-Hello-From-South-Florida&highlight=south+florida
here is my welcome thread with old pictures but my wheels are, staggared 19x8.5 and 19x9.5 et45 and 33
the thread should have my tire sizes and rim specs as well
check it out and let me know if you have any questions

EDIT: also I am running stock suspension, lowered suspension will require more negative camber

okay awesome! so i'll be sitting hella flush huh?

[Rovert]

You'll still need some fender rolling mods or you'll be hella flushtrated... :P

[Hermes]

Albert you've got like ten different projects on your plate right now... What priority is this cause you might wanna work on the others first as your might change your mind about the look you're going for.

[tripod06]

i'm all over the place JP lol. i think i should make a fat list and then put little numbers next to each item in which i feel needs to be done. as far as custom work is concerned, i want to get tint. i used to like the no tint but now i'm getting tired of NOT having it.

[Hermes]

ok Albert... i think i've finally found the setup for you. It fits on an E39 M5 so I'm pretty sure we can get it to work for you...


http://www.jimmy540i.com/moron9998.jpg

[danewilson77]

ok Albert... i think i've finally found the setup for you. It fits on an E39 M5 so I'm pretty sure we can get it to work for you...


http://www.jimmy540i.com/moron9998.jpg


Lmao.

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[Hermes]

i'm making that my sig for a while...

[danewilson77]

I'll just leave this here.....

DTMdan posted these a while back > E9X M3 wheels and E46 M3 wheels on non Ms...

Enjoy.....

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5846222362_f627603fbf_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809735443_515da0b040_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5835047184_fb008a0043_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809563609_5981d67c89_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5885405448_8ed6a6467c_b.jpg

[Rovert]

:eyetwitch

:jawdrop

http://images.zaazu.com/img/wow-wow-shock-surprise-smiley-emoticon-000325-large.gif

More stats on dat ass! i want fitment like that. :help

[danewilson77]

Yeah...the E9X wheels are insane. Period. I don't know what the driveability is like though.

I like the look.

[tripod06]

HOLY CRAP!!!! :drool

i'm speechless. that is so hard!!! and those are the 18s too!!! they look sooooooooooooo bomb! i cant even type what i am feeling...

[cakM3]

Dane,

That stance is sick :drool

[Ryans323i]

I'll just leave this here.....

DTMdan posted these a while back > E9X M3 wheels and E46 M3 wheels on non Ms...

Enjoy.....

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5846222362_f627603fbf_b.jpg

Do you know any more info on the e46 m3 wheel setup? Square (m3 fronts only), or staggered? What size spacers?

[cakM3]

Ryan,

I know that you can fit OEM M3 18" fronts in a square setup. I am not sure about the rears....might have to try and slap them on my ZHP over the weekend since I have a complete spare set from my ///M :)

If they fit with spacers then I will forward the info unless someone already knows :thumbsup

[Ryans323i]

Ryan,

I know that you can fit OEM M3 18" fronts in a square setup. I am not sure about the rears....might have to try and slap them on my ZHP over the weekend since I have a complete spare set from my ///M :)

If they fit with spacers then I will forward the info unless someone already knows :thumbsup

I'm running (4) 18"x8" et47 M3 fronts right now. But they're not sitting flush enough for me. I've done a ton of rough measuring and still can't decide what spacers I want. I picked up a set of 20mm (sounds like a lot, but they're that tucked), but they didn't come with bolts. My tire guy says that's too much spacing and not to run them, so I'm stuck deciding if I want to buy extended bolts and try the 20mm spacers or sell them and get a smaller spacer.

I was under the impression that you can't run e46 M3 rears without modification.

PS. I just caught that you have a complete spare set of M3 wheels. I desperately need an m3 front for my spare. ( I upgraded my brakes all around to 330 brakes and my 16" spare will not fit over them.) I realize buying just one of your wheels, and even having you ship it would be a complete pain, but for S&G if you were to sell one, how much?

[sum1orotha]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809563609_5981d67c89_b.jpg



:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:drool:d rool:drool

That is exactly what I want my car to look like eventually.

I need to know how to do this.

[Rock Nova]

Looks awesome, but it appears he is constantly rubbing in the rear. Assuming those tires aren't mismatched brands, the sidewall on the rear tires look like they have been worn smooth compared to the front tire sidewalls.


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809563609_5981d67c89_b.jpg

[Ryans323i]

They are also seriously stretched.

[tripod06]

They are also seriously stretched.

i have to agree. my buddies 335i looks like that. he sits herra flush/hard haha

[Hermes]

needs to flare the hell out of the fenders. Not a fan at the moment because it reminds of cars like this:

http://i41.tinypic.com/20tm8vt.jpg

should probably just get some M3 quarterpanels put on and call it a day

[Rock Nova]

I think I would like it better if it had a squared set of those front wheels.

[nike001]

EDIT: seems like a lot of people are questioning Dan & Ryan's cars from the pictures a page back. Ryan has 4 rear OEM M3 wheels. He didn't mention spacers in his thread, but he did say that he needed to shave his rear fenders to fit the rims.
Thread:http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=848537&highlight=

Dan's e9x wheels didn't have spacers IIRC.. only when he got little ones for the front, but took them off because he rubbed too much.

Not really sure what much else I can say, those fitment guys take their stuff very seriously.




Looks awesome, but it appears he is constantly rubbing in the rear. Assuming those tires aren't mismatched brands, the sidewall on the rear tires look like they have been worn smooth compared to the front tire sidewalls.


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809563609_5981d67c89_b.jpg

This is DTMDan's car. He's a cool guy, he recently tried convincing me to get these rims..

This pic was when he was running spacers up front.. but they didn't last long because he rubbed. Then he said he took them off and he ONLY rubbed under full lock in the front. From that I assume he never rubbed in the back.

But he does have fender work..

[Hermes]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5846222362_f627603fbf_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809735443_515da0b040_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5835047184_fb008a0043_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5809563609_5981d67c89_b.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Other%20cars/5885405448_8ed6a6467c_b.jpg


EDIT: seems like a lot of people are questioning Dan & Ryan's cars from the pictures a page back. Ryan has 4 rear OEM M3 wheels. He didn't mention spacers in his thread, but he did say that he needed to shave his rear fenders to fit the rims.

I didn't want my comment to come off as me saying I don't like the look, what I was trying to get at is it doesn't look right in some of the pictures. What order should they be in because now that I look at them again it seems like the camber was adjusted in the first few pics and no camber in the last two.

Personally I want to one day have a M with the GTR widebody kit and run 10s up front and 12s in the rear but it would have to sit under the fenders, kinda like this (but not necessarily the Flossman Initial GTR kit, and also this car actually has 20x10 front and 20x14 rear):

http://www.bimmer.ru/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/0_resize4.jpg

http://www.bimmer.ru/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/0a_resize.jpg

http://www.bimmer.ru/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/a6_resize.jpg

[Hornung418]

Please tell me you're going to have an M3 by the time you implement that plan...

[nike001]

lol Hermes, let me know what rubber costs you after you do this :)

[Hermes]

Please tell me you're going to have an M3 by the time you implement that plan...

Yes, with a S62 under the hood. My ZHP will stay as it is. Well, maybe I'll put the S54 in the ZHP and sell the M54


lol Hermes, let me know what rubber costs you after you do this :)

for sure, its gonna be a crazy project. Also, I doubt rubber will be the main price issue with this plan

[nike001]

Dan sent me here to post these :)

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6214/6289208077_5e2bacdc0d_o.jpg
19x9.5" OEM M3 rears
Front: et27
Rear: et12

Then without rear spacers:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6174/6209648617_3583fdd1a2_b.jpg

[Hermes]

second pic = :thumbup

[tripod06]

Dan sent me here to post these :)

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6214/6289208077_5e2bacdc0d_o.jpg
19x9.5" OEM M3 rears
Front: et27
Rear: et12

Then without rear spacers:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6174/6209648617_3583fdd1a2_b.jpg

okay and i'm dead serious when i ask this now, how much body work was done to make those rears fit with that offset?! cause i now feel like getting 19x9.5 ET22 Rear and 19x8.5 ET33 Front now. i want herra flush look with the VMR VB3 CSL Reps but i want SUPER CONCAVITY like that there!

[Hermes]

i do it fo you, ten dolla

actually, it's gonna be quite a lot of work Albert. Stop thinking about wheels right now and work on your other projects. How many times have you changed your mind in this thread so far?

[Rock Nova]

This is DTMDan's car. He's a cool guy, he recently tried convincing me to get these rims..

This pic was when he was running spacers up front.. but they didn't last long because he rubbed. Then he said he took them off and he ONLY rubbed under full lock in the front. From that I assume he never rubbed in the back.

But he does have fender work..

He does rub in the back...
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=13650239&postcount=59

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/5826202659_fba91a4b5c_o.jpg

[tripod06]

JP, yeah i do change my mind but when it comes to wheels, i know i'm dead set on the CSL Reps. just want a good concave look.

[Ryans323i]

EDIT: seems like a lot of people are questioning Dan & Ryan's cars from the pictures a page back. Ryan has 4 rear OEM M3 wheels. He didn't mention spacers in his thread, but he did say that he needed to shave his rear fenders to fit the rims.
Thread:http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=848537&highlight=

Excellent info. Thanks for posting!! Also OE M3 rears (style 67) are 18"x 9" et27.

I'm (not the Ryan mentioned above obviously) running (4) e46 m3 (style 67) fronts 18"x8" et 47 w/ a slightly stretched 225/40 tire. And no spacers yet.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm142/aprilsmom04/carandwheels/carsiderear.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm142/aprilsmom04/DSCN1582.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm142/aprilsmom04/carandwheels/rearwheelfitmnt.jpg

[tripod06]

excellent info. Thanks for posting!! Also oe m3 rears (style 67) are 18"x 9" et27.

I'm (not the ryan mentioned above obviously) running (4) e46 m3 (style 67) fronts 18"x8" et 47 w/ a slightly stretched 225/40 tire. And no spacers yet.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm142/aprilsmom04/carandwheels/carsiderear.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm142/aprilsmom04/dscn1582.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm142/aprilsmom04/carandwheels/rearwheelfitmnt.jpg

go wider!!!

[Ryans323i]

I know! Unfortunately, the tire size was because that's the tire I wanted and that was the only size I could get, the rim size is because I can only run fronts and I only wanted OE M3 wheels.

In the future, far future, when the tires are getting worn I'll probably go with a different wheel and definitely go wider.

Right now I'm just pussy foot'n around deciding what size spacers. ECS has all their spacers and extended lugs for sale, so I see myself making a decision before the year's over.

[tripod06]

just get some VMRs with some sick offsets haha those pictures above are intriguing me to go hella hard on the offsets!

[Rovert]

But stay flush..don't get flushed!

[tripod06]

maybe a baby poke! haha

[goofiefoot]

I found another set of 197's ON MY LOCAL CL (http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/2725063766.html) (the set from post #183 didn't work out). Looks like a decent deal, and I have a set of Kumho 4x's ready to install tomorrow, so I'm going to look at these tonight. From what I understand, with the offsets mimalmo shows below, these will fit, but will stick out a bit further with 225/40 and 255/35, correct?


Those do look like Style 197's. If correct, they are definitely staggered.

18x8 ET34
18x8.5 ET37

[jreyes19]

yes fitment will not be a problem
but yes they will stick out further than your current rims, but shouldn't be near the fender at all (incase you were wondering)

[Nivo]

Personally I am trying to get as much tire out back as I can, currently I am on 18x9.5" wheels with 265 tires, they are the skinniest tires I've ever run on any of my RWD cars. It looks as I could have gone 275 out back

http://www.e46turbo330ci.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/330CiZHPNIVO.jpg

[Hermes]

Serious question, gimme ideas for the '02...

[bimmeryota]

JP, yeah i do change my mind but when it comes to wheels, i know i'm dead set on the CSL Reps. just want a good concave look.

CSLs FTW!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6474376705_2638ec2ba9_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bambamcapoeira/6474376705/)

[Hermes]

^ That was a response to my comment to Albert, right? I don't think they make CSLs for a 2002...

[Hornung418]

JP, 14 inch Panasport 8 spoke rims.
2724

That's the go to rim. There's not much else out there that will fit. Some Miata wheels will fit, but you have to be careful of the front strut housing so a spacer is a must. 15 inch wheels need rolled fenders and the liner cut out of the rear wheel wells.

[Hermes]

yeah, but those remind me too much of Mini's... there has to be some old school BBS wheel that will fit, right?