Clears from Khoa...installed SAT!

[danewilson77]

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Imola%20Bimmer/DSC04085.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Imola%20Bimmer/DSC04092-1.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Imola%20Bimmer/DSC04094-1.jpg

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/nicee46/Imola%20Bimmer/DSC04097-1.jpg

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Ftw.

[kayger12]

Nice!

[Johnmadd]

Car looks great.

[pyreguy]

Completely badass


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[JohnnyGraphic]

Nice look! Dig the clears!

[danewilson77]

Thanks Fellas....not to mention the 8Hp gain.

[Rovert]

Mine gave me only 6hp gain. You must have bought the more expensive clears! Couldn't find those. :(

[MasterC17]

Looks good - definitely better than the ambers in my opinion.

[danewilson77]

Mine gave me only 6hp gain. You must have bought the more expensive clears! Couldn't find those. :(

The Khoalty stickers gave me 2 additional.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

The Khoalty stickers gave me 2 additional.

That's right! I was wondering where you got those two extra horses. Totally forgot about the Khoalty stickers.

[Johnmadd]

:):hiNow you can do mine.

[danewilson77]

:):hiNow you can do mine.

Now I can dhuuuuuuuuu your what?

[Rovert]

Why do you put yourself into positions where the answer could be rather post-9PM rated?

[danewilson77]

:rofl

[Johnmadd]

Now I can dhuuuuuuuuu your what?

Ha, just kidding man. I want clears and have no idea how to do it but I'm good at stuff like that. So I guess I don't need help.:-(!

[danewilson77]

Its easy. I'll help ya out. The sides are not intuitively obvious....

[Nivo]

am I the only amber ZHP coupe on the site?

Looks good..

[Marcus-SanDiego]

There aren't that many amber coupes, Nivo. I imagine you are one of the few. In 2005, clears were standard on the ZHP coupe. So, ambers were only available for one model year with the coupe.

[romanred62]

Ordered my clears Thursday. Any idea on HP gains for 7 roundels and an LED tag light...?

[kayger12]

Ordered my clears Thursday. Any idea on HP gains for 7 roundels and an LED tag light...?

It's like having an S54.

[romanred62]

It's like having an S54.

:party Now I can keep up with my friends M3.

[Rovert]

Damn that's why my little car can still put up a bit of a fight! I knew my clears did something...LOL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD9CR7q2_pE

......Well at least my 1st and 2nd gear. I think I need another set of clears to match an S54 in 3rd. Is there any DIY's online for this yet? Haha

[pyreguy]

Ouch, the LED tag light ads a couple tenths to your quarter mile times.... :biggrin

[pyreguy]

I like how that video is from his perspective so we can all enjoy the hotness that is ZHP.

And your car, with exception of the wheels (and stance I suppose) looks way similar to mine so now I know haw badass my car looks going down the road.. Spectacular!

[danewilson77]

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[iZHP]

looks good! tails to match?

[danewilson77]

^Not yet....you think oem RCR or LED's?

[iZHP]

^Not yet....you think oem RCR or LED's?

I have the clears, but maybe smoked would look good on yours?
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab58/ianbrady/Screenshot2011-02-19at95804PM.png

[danewilson77]

Can't really go that route with clear sides....

[iZHP]

then I think the clears would go well. I don't usually like LED's on sedans either. Imola with clear = :party
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this is one of the other cars I was looking to purchase

[danewilson77]

My last sedan had the eagle eye tails.....but they were bright bordering on obnoxious....imho.

[Rovert]

I concur.

http://www.modbargains.com/images/CSL/bobo-6.jpg

[pyreguy]

If I had it to do all over again I would do RCR


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[danewilson77]

Ok....seems like I am thinking right.

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[Mtnman]

Looks good Dane.

[az3579]

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am I the only amber ZHP coupe on the site?

Looks good..

Unfortunately, yes... soon we'll be the only amber-equipped people on the site altogether. :(


^Not yet....you think oem RCR or LED's?

If you have to change it, you should keep the theme. RCR. The LEDs are out of place on the facelift, IMO. Plus the RCRs would keep with the clear theme.

[pyreguy]

My LEDs have clear on them too. It matches my clears elsewhere quite nicely :biggrin
http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae342/pyreguy/ZHP/DSC00273.jpg



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[kayger12]

Looks good, Lance. I loved the LEDs on my 325i.

[az3579]

Have to admit, they are growing on me on black. I can't see it on a red car though, but yours for sure Lance.

[danewilson77]

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Unfortunately, yes... soon we'll be the only amber-equipped people on the site altogether. :(



If you have to change it, you should keep the theme. RCR. The LEDs are out of place on the facelift, IMO. Plus the RCRs would keep with the clear theme.


Thanks BP

[az3579]

I just thought of another reason.
Clubsport theme. Those had clears all around. It will euro-ize the car a little more, if you will. :)

[danewilson77]

Like what. Almost afraid to ask.

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[adb1028]

Just a thought, but I wonder what LED's with the RCR trunk lights would look like, I dont think I've seen that before

[Rovert]

There's a lot of commotion at E46fanatics if you search LED RCR.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=470911

http://luckysnafu.smugmug.com/photos/151494581-L.jpg

[Oli77]

Dane, with the utmost respect, I don't like the clears in the front on your car.

To each his/ her own, but it looks cold and empty there, maybe its the shoot, maybe it will grow on me like Az3579 said but it just doesn't go well.

Your have other shots that show them off?

[danewilson77]

No problem. Many don't like the rack, bra, my jdm rims, or my over the top interior trim.

If I did everything, everyone else wanted me to....I would have a stock zhp...which isn't me...and isn't my passion.

No disrespect taken

I think it cleaned up the front end a lot.

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[pyreguy]

Silly noob question.... what's the difference in the tails of a prefacelift and a facelift e46? I can't tell.

[az3579]

There's a lot of commotion at E46fanatics if you search LED RCR.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=470911

http://luckysnafu.smugmug.com/photos/151494581-L.jpg

DUUUUUDE, I've been looking for something like that for who knows how long! Only problem is, I'm looking for ambers....... :(


Silly noob question.... what's the difference in the tails of a prefacelift and a facelift e46? I can't tell.


SERIOUSLY? Come on Lance... lol

Pre-facelift:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/olaf2046/5933_3.jpg

Facelift:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/olaf2046/5933_34.jpg

[billschusteriv]

DUUUUUDE, I've been looking for something like that for who knows how long! Only problem is, I'm looking for ambers....... :(

Have considered getting the RCRs and then wrapping them to get the desired amber?

[iZHP]

Pre-facelift:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/olaf2046/5933_3.jpg

Facelift:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/olaf2046/5933_34.jpg

there's not much of a noticeable difference to the naked eye.

[az3579]

Have considered getting the RCRs and then wrapping them to get the desired amber?

To me, wrapping is half-assing it. You don't wrap taillights.
Other stuff, fine, but taillights? Heck, I've never even heard of such a thing. Is there a link you could point me to so I could be enlightened?


there's not much of a noticeable difference to the naked eye.

I dunno, do me it's a HUUUUUGE difference. Can't stand the pre-face look, to be honest.

[pyreguy]

Okay, so its all about layout. I was looking for the shape to be different kinda like the headlights. I always get people saying my LEDs are pre facelift style, yet they came on facelift coupes and verts I thought. Whatever. Those pictures were awesome in the way of explanation though! I always loved the E46s but never thought I would own one so I didn't bother to learn all the little nuances until now.

[az3579]

Okay, so its all about layout. I was looking for the shape to be different kinda like the headlights. I always get people saying my LEDs are pre facelift style, yet they came on facelift coupes and verts I thought. Whatever. Those pictures were awesome in the way of explanation though! I always loved the E46s but never thought I would own one so I didn't bother to learn all the little nuances until now.


The taillight design is different on the sedans only. The coupes are pretty much the same, with the addition of LEDs for the facelift ones.

[pyreguy]

Ah I see. I don't mind borrowing the look of a facelift sedan in order to have uber bright tails. I was rear-ended pretty badly a couple years ago and I got the LEDs for the extra insurance. I like the way the rcr looks better, but that's essentially what I had when that car plowed into me at around 45mph cause they didn't see me stopped there. I was going for obnoxiously bright, and these certainty fit the bill.


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[az3579]

Ah I see. I don't mind borrowing the look of a facelift sedan in order to have uber bright tails. I was rear-ended pretty badly a couple years ago and I got the LEDs for the extra insurance. I like the way the rcr looks better, but that's essentially what I had when that car plowed into me at around 45mph cause they didn't see me stopped there. I was going for obnoxiously bright, and these certainty fit the bill.


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Just to be clear,

In that kind of a situation, if they didn't see you stopped, then they wouldn't have seen you regardless of what kind of tail lights you had. The effect of what kind of taillights you have (provided they are fully functioning) has a minimal effect on whether or not someone will see you stopped. What they will have an effect on, however, is how hard they think you are braking. That's why the "emergency stop" extra brake lighting on facelift models provided only in emergency stop situations will help the driver behind you assess how hard you are stepping on the brake. In this case, if there is a collision, it would be a very small one, not a huge one like you described. That kind of collision is only caused by distracted driving.

If they rear ended you, they were going to do so even if you had fifteen lights on the back of your car. Them rear-ending you just means that they were distracted with something or are blind, one or the other. If they were paying attention, they would have noticed the speed difference, even if your brake lights didn't work at all.


Distracted driving FOR THE LOSS.

[danewilson77]

I had LED Eagle eyes.....when my car got rear ended and totaled. You could see them from 60 miles away, on a clear Montana night....or so I am told.

[billschusteriv]

Sorry Dane for the thread jack. I should probably move this to a PM, but you (and others) might find this information helpful if you want to tint/wrap your tails.

Let me know if you want me to start a new thread.


To me, wrapping is half-assing it. You don't wrap taillights.
Other stuff, fine, but taillights? Heck, I've never even heard of such a thing. Is there a link you could point me to so I could be enlightened?

I dunno, do me it's a HUUUUUGE difference. Can't stand the pre-face look, to be honest.

Sorry bro - I feel awful; I should've included a link and discussed more. I was on Tapatalk for BB and can't cut and paste links.


I posted a while back on tinted tails for Ryan on Bf.c:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20966358&postcount=32

I've been looking at how to upgrade the tails on my wagon for a while. The options for wagon tails are a bit more limited than sedan/coupes.

The exterior of my wagon is black - so I've thought about just doing the Nightshades on my OEMs but am concerned about the numerous law enforcement agencies in PA and MD that I could encounter on my drive every day to/from work. So I might just use lamin-x - that way I can remove if I need to.

Don Nguyen - on e46f.c - is wrapping lights and roofs has some really great pictures of what he's doing over in Cali. He's using lamin-x, so if you need to you can always remove it. Link here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=704954

I've also seen recommendations for Jon's Tinted Tails... http://www.jonstintedtails.com/index.htm.

Since both use Lamin-X, which comes in a variety of colors and can be used to color match, I wouldn't see why they couldn't do amber across the clear portion of your lights.

It's just another option out there where options are limited.

Speaking of pre-facelift vs facelift tails... from your pictures - I'm pretty sure I've got the facelift front... but pre-facelift tails.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5390358552_e47631154c_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_schuster/5390358552/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4789362992_0c49eb7cb9_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_schuster/4789362992/)

Weird? Am I missing something?


The taillight design is different on the sedans only. The coupes are pretty much the same, with the addition of LEDs for the facelift ones.

^^^^ I didn't see this before posting. Could be the answer to my query?

[danewilson77]

Hey...thanks for the info Bill. All that info in a new thread would be great....to find for later....honestly. Not that it was a thread jack...just thinking of the guy who comes along looking for answers.

[pyreguy]

I see your point, and agree that the woman wasn't paying attention. She was on her cell phone checking the road we were gonna merge onto for traffic instead of looking at the car already stopped (me) because of said traffic. But the brightness makes me feel better. And as far as the extra lights on the facelift lighting up and letting followers know how hard you're stopping, I would think that unless they knew BMW E46 facelift layout to know those extra lights meant something they probably wouldn't register the difference. But maybe. Still a good idea. And supposedly this works on the LEDs as well with the outermost lights being the extra ones that light up in hard braking, but I haven't verified this on mine.

I installed a smokescreen instead, ala James Bond... :biggrin

[az3579]

^^^^ I didn't see this before posting. Could be the answer to my query?

Yes. The tourings and coupes have pretty much the same taillight as their pre-face counterparts.


I see your point, and agree that the woman wasn't paying attention. She was on her cell phone checking the road we were gonna merge onto for traffic instead of looking at the car already stopped (me) because of said traffic. But the brightness makes me feel better.

Hey, as long as you feel good about it, that's all that matters brotha. :)



And as far as the extra lights on the facelift lighting up and letting followers know how hard you're stopping, I would think that unless they knew BMW E46 facelift layout to know those extra lights meant something they probably wouldn't register the difference. The effect is that if you see someone apply the brakes in front of you, their regular lights come on, but as they dig deeper into the floor, you'll see the extra lights come on in addition. So, the initial application of brake lights gets your attention, and the additional lights that come on raise your attention level more as they weren't there a second ago...

Of course this only matters if you're paying attention and watching for the "level 1" lights to come on in the first place. lol

[danewilson77]

Sorry Dane for the thread jack. I should probably move this to a PM, but you (and others) might find this information helpful if you want to tint/wrap your tails.

Let me know if you want me to start a new thread.



Sorry bro - I feel awful; I should've included a link and discussed more. I was on Tapatalk for BB and can't cut and paste links.


I posted a while back on tinted tails for Ryan on Bf.c:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20966358&postcount=32

I've been looking at how to upgrade the tails on my wagon for a while. The options for wagon tails are a bit more limited than sedan/coupes.

The exterior of my wagon is black - so I've thought about just doing the Nightshades on my OEMs but am concerned about the numerous law enforcement agencies in PA and MD that I could encounter on my drive every day to/from work. So I might just use lamin-x - that way I can remove if I need to.

Don Nguyen - on e46f.c - is wrapping lights and roofs has some really great pictures of what he's doing over in Cali. He's using lamin-x, so if you need to you can always remove it. Link here: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=704954

I've also seen recommendations for Jon's Tinted Tails... http://www.jonstintedtails.com/index.htm.

Since both use Lamin-X, which comes in a variety of colors and can be used to color match, I wouldn't see why they couldn't do amber across the clear portion of your lights.

It's just another option out there where options are limited.

Speaking of pre-facelift vs facelift tails... from your pictures - I'm pretty sure I've got the facelift front... but pre-facelift tails.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5012/5390358552_e47631154c_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_schuster/5390358552/)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4789362992_0c49eb7cb9_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_schuster/4789362992/)

Weird? Am I missing something?



^^^^ I didn't see this before posting. Could be the answer to my query?

Started a new thread here Billy. Feel free to add to it...

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?1306-Tail-Light-Filming&p=25032#post25032