The Random E46/ZHP Question Thread

[san]

Are they? You would think they would be the same since weight distribution is supposed to be 50/50 in both.

don't remember the values for a sedan but they are different... I was thinking the same but then maybe the weight distribution isn't quite 50/50??


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[NYRhockey]

Did they check the tread depth ?

Don't think they did but i got a tread gauge and in the middle of the tire they're 6 to 7 left and one of them is 4 to 5.

[Vas]

Would mounting the worn tires in the front be of any help or does it not matter? since it's rwd i'd figure get the best tires there.

I would put the better tires on the back so you can actually take off.

[ELCID86]

Went to townfair tire today to get the winters mounted and was told they couldn't put them on because 2 of the tires were too worn. Not sure if they were trying to sell me new tires or if they are really worn. What do you guys think? these are 2 pictures of the same tire that i saw to be the most worn.

Also, even if i gave them the baldest tires ever why would they decline to put them on? liability i may get into an accident and blame them?

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I got the same crap from Merchants Tire when I dropped my van off on Monday for a rotation. I left it there and shipped two tires direct to them. They are installing them right now.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[stephenkirsh]

don't remember the values for a sedan but they are different... I was thinking the same but then maybe the weight distribution isn't quite 50/50??


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In a manual, it's like 50.7/49.3. Not enough to impact tire pressures imo

[az3579]

Not sure why most other peoples' say lower pressures. My sticker shows very high pressures...

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160120/bc11c9ea4b7e9551e61f4717ca74e9d0.jpg

I don't run stock sizing so I keep it at 35 all around.

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[ELCID86]

Not sure why most other peoples' say lower pressures. My sticker shows very high pressures...

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160120/bc11c9ea4b7e9551e61f4717ca74e9d0.jpg

I don't run stock sizing so I keep it at 35 all around.

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Same here and so do I (35-37.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[wsmeyer]

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2006 vert that came with RE040's

[BMWCurves]

My 2005 330Ci, same values as BP and Shawn:

http://i.imgur.com/zmYf1FC.jpg

[BMWCurves]

Just realized, those values found in the door stickers are max values for five people plus luggage (1,058 lbs), according to the owner's manual.

[san]

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Well, mine is different!! Not sure why

I looked at my friend's Zhp sedan and his were different, so I thought the coupe and sedan have different values

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[BMWCurves]

Yours is an '06, right? I'm betting it's an '06 thing. William (wsmeyer) has an '06 vert.

[san]

Ya that is what I am thinking too... But not sure why they would change the pressures though... I have tpms on my car, so does that have anything to do with this?? Unlikely but I can't think of anything else that could be different...


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[BMWCurves]

Ya that is what I am thinking too... But not sure why they would change the pressures though... I have tpms on my car, so does that have anything to do with this?? Unlikely but I can't think of anything else that could be different...


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Doubt it. I have TPMS as well.

[danewilson77]

I'm running 42/42 f/r

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[NYRhockey]

Interesting that my door jam plate is different, and in french!

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[wsmeyer]

That's pretty cool. Any idea why?

[mynamenumber]

... almost seems worth a "post your door jam" thread here... :pringles:

[johnrando]

:)

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[derbo]

Interesting that my door jam plate is different, and in french!

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There are the older ones. I believe in 05 they changed the stickers.

But your tire pressures are based on the load rating of the tire. The door jam is only specific to the load rating of the factory tire.


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[UWISHU1]

In reference to the winter tires posted earlier- tires are everything, especially in adverse conditions. Don't use those...they're done.


I was very surprised to see how high the recommended psi was in my door jam when I first went to check my pressures. I'm glad to know those pressures are for fully loaded, as I'll now be running something lower. I was thinking the higher pressure in the rear was because of how wide the tires are compared to the front. This is my first time running staggered low-pro's, so I'm genuinely curious of exactly why we're supposed to run more in the rear. Is it because those are the acceleration tires? I have a feeling the width is the difference.

[derbo]

In reference to the winter tires posted earlier- tires are everything, especially in adverse conditions. Don't use those...they're done.


I was very surprised to see how high the recommended psi was in my door jam when I first went to check my pressures. I'm glad to know those pressures are for fully loaded, as I'll now be running something lower. I was thinking the higher pressure in the rear was because of how wide the tires are compared to the front. This is my first time running staggered low-pro's, so I'm genuinely curious of exactly why we're supposed to run more in the rear. Is it because those are the acceleration tires? I have a feeling the width is the difference.


It varies with size and construction of the tire sidewalls as well. Different tires of the same size can have different load and max pressure ratings.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=21

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=196


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[BMWCurves]

... almost seems worth a "post your door jam" thread here... :pringles:

I'm supposed to have a slow day tomorrow with work. I'll see how bored I truly get.

[az3579]

It doesn't make sense why they would post only the max pressures on the door jamb. It would have made more sense to put the standard inflation numbers so people can quickly check what to set pressures to under normal circumstances.

My sticker does not say that 39/46 is max inflation pressure and is very misleading. I don't remember my owner's manual telling me that was max either, but I'll have to check when I go home.

[BMWCurves]

It doesn't make sense why they would post only the max pressures on the door jamb. It would have made more sense to put the standard inflation numbers so people can quickly check what to set pressures to under normal circumstances.

My sticker does not say that 39/46 is max inflation pressure and is very misleading. I don't remember my owner's manual telling me that was max either, but I'll have to check when I go home.

I agree it doesn't make sense. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and I'll have to check my car's physical owner's manual, but this is the tire inflation page from a 2006 coupe, with the ZHP tire sizes highlighted:

http://i.imgur.com/83bpiNx.png

[san]

I agree it doesn't make sense. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and I'll have to check my car's physical owner's manual, but this is the tire inflation page from a 2006 coupe, with the ZHP tire sizes highlighted:

http://i.imgur.com/83bpiNx.png

The rear is 1 psi different but almost same as what my car says


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[NYRhockey]

There are the older ones. I believe in 05 they changed the stickers.

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Oh man, you just burst my bubble. I was hoping i had a special not so special car.

[derbo]

Oh man, you just burst my bubble. I was hoping i had a special not so special car.

Yours maybe special cause it's French? I'll have to check mine


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[az3579]

Yours maybe special cause it's French? I'll have to check mine


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It was probably imported from Canada. French is very prevalent in parts of Canada.

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[stephenkirsh]

Canada didn't have ZHPs?

[danewilson77]

I just looked at mine.

It burped the National Anthem, in Russian.

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[Vas]

I just looked at mine.

It burped the National Anthem, in Russian.

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Lol man got jokes

[ELCID86]

I just looked at mine.

It burped the National Anthem, in Russian.

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Vas can translate ;-)


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[az3579]

Canada didn't have ZHPs?
Sure they did. An imported ZAM is the same thing as a ZHP. Import to the U.S. would entail a MPH cluster conversion, which is literally the only difference between the two.

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[stephenkirsh]

Aren't the Canadian cars missing something the US cars have? Like the cams or something to do with not going to 6700rpm?

[BMWCurves]

Aren't the Canadian cars missing something the US cars have? Like the cams or something to do with not going to 6700rpm?

From the FAQ:

Question: And what about the BMW 330 vehicles in Canada that look like the ZHP in the United States?
Answer: Canada was different. In fact, BMW created the M Performance Package in Canada. It not only got the looks of its US counterpart, it also got the upgraded camshafts and engine tweaks. One thing that it didn't get, though, was the red needles on the instrument cluster. Moreover, the redline is at 6500 RPM, even though the car will rev to 6800 RPM -- just like its US ZHP counterpart. It also got the BMW Performance Package exhaust with the thinner walls (exactly like the one on the ZHP). Therefore, while it was not given the ZHP code name, it's simply a ZHP by another name. Indeed, it was given the option code of ZAM.

Source: http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?1789-Frequently-Asked-Questions-(FAQ)-About-the-BMW-E46-330-ZHP-Performance-Package-Option

[stephenkirsh]

Ah that was it. Thanks. Not much of a difference.

[NYRhockey]

It was probably imported from Canada. French is very prevalent in parts of Canada.

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Actually i looked at the carfax i had from the time of purchase and it said it was imported from Germany to Charleston, SC

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[az3579]

Actually i looked at the carfax i had from the time of purchase and it said it was imported from Germany to Charleston, SC

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Well then there you go! That's quite odd that it would have a French sticker on it though.

[UWISHU1]

So yeah, it's lame, indeed, that max pressures are on the door jam. I saw it and was like "dang, that's a lot", but then was like, "must be what they recommend, and I trust BMW engineers" and proceeded to inflate the shit out of my tires. lol

Needless to say, I've let some air out. I'll stick with what the tires say, and if I'm lucky, I'll find my way to an AutoX with this car to really know what perfect is.

[BMWCurves]

So yeah, it's lame, indeed, that max pressures are on the door jam. I saw it and was like "dang, that's a lot", but then was like, "must be what they recommend, and I trust BMW engineers" and proceeded to inflate the shit out of my tires. lol

Needless to say, I've let some air out. I'll stick with what the tires say, and if I'm lucky, I'll find my way to an AutoX with this car to really know what perfect is.

Had the same issue and later I wondered why my ride was stiff. Since then I adjusted to 38/40 front/rear and that's still high but is much better.

[UWISHU1]

Good to know...

[BMWCurves]

Our shocks/struts won't fit on an E46 wagon/touring, correct?

[stephenkirsh]

I think they will. Possibly different spring rates for the rear, though.

[BMWCurves]

Second question. Does anyone know the difference between these two door clips apart from their apparent color:

1. 51418224781 - "Clip with seal ring" according to RealOEM (https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/trim-panel-clip-priced-each/51418224781/)
2. 51418224768 - "Clip with washer, natur" according to RealOEM (https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/trim-panel-clip-priced-each/51418224768/)

Maybe one is rubber washer, and another is foam? They're also listed in the diagram on RealOEM as the same thing (#6), but have different quantities:

http://i.imgur.com/yFjNHA8.png

Source: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=BL93-USA---E46-BMW-M3&diagId=51_3729

[BMWCurves]

I think they will. Possibly different spring rates for the rear, though.

Thanks! Some guy has been texting me locally for my used suspension parts but they have a touring.

[stephenkirsh]

You could always use RealOEM to verify

[BMWCurves]

You could always use RealOEM to verify

I forgot you can just pick a car, you don't need the VIN :facepalm

None of the part numbers match up, so I think the interested party is out of luck.

[NickZHP]

If I were to install O2 spacers (spark plug non-foulers) to get rid of a CEL with aftermarket headers it wouldn't have any affect on performance and airflow correct?

[UWISHU1]

What's the correct sequence on the key fob for trunk pop? I've tried combinations of presses and holding and it doesn't seem consistent.

[ELCID86]

What's the correct sequence on the key fob for trunk pop? I've tried combinations of presses and holding and it doesn't seem consistent.

Press and release Lower button.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[stephenkirsh]

It just unlocks, right? Doesn't pop or push open?

[BMWCurves]

It just unlocks, right? Doesn't pop or push open?

Depends on your definition of "pop" but yeah the button unlocks the trunk but doesn't initiate any sort of opening mechanism to swing open by itself.

[BMWCurves]

Another question: Does anyone have a DIY on how to repair dim LEDs in coupes? I know there was one on E46Fanatics that looked good, but I forgot to bookmark it and I can't find it anymore.

[UWISHU1]

Press and release Lower button.

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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

Good to know. It doesn't seem to always work.

[ELCID86]

Good to know. It doesn't seem to always work.

Battery perhaps. ?? Do you have two keys? Both act the same way?

[UWISHU1]

Equipped with your input, I studied single button presses more carefully. I had been trying a single press and quick release, or a long press and hold, neither of which worked. It would only work when I'd just start pressing it sporadically. Turns out pressing for about a half second is the magic duration. I was releasing too quickly, or holding too long before.

[BMWCurves]

I would think holding the button too long would not be an issue. Do your lock and unlock buttons work appropriately?

[UWISHU1]

Lock and unlock are great. Trunk was the only weird one. Holding every so slightly longer does the trick for me.

[san]

Does anyone have a magna flow cat back exhaust on the Zhp?? Opinions??


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[theothersawyer]

My friend has one on his (non-ZHP) 330i. Personally if it was between spending money on a Magnaflow or keeping the stock exhaust, I'd keep it stock. He did get his exhaust for free though, because he knows people! lol

[san]

My friend has one on his (non-ZHP) 330i. Personally if it was between spending money on a Magnaflow or keeping the stock exhaust, I'd keep it stock. He did get his exhaust for free though, because he knows people! lol

There's a guy asking $300 for it... Not worth it??


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[BMWCurves]

There's a guy asking $300 for it... Not worth it??

Full catback?

[theothersawyer]

I personally just love the way the stock ZHP sounds! I do wish it was louder though! Full car back for $300 sounds pretty good!

[mynamenumber]

Hey, I went to my local non-dealer shop for a coolant flush. He says he pressure tested and spotted a leak at the water pump, wants $400 for the job, but NOTED that at least this includes the coolant flush as part of the job.

This all seem reasonable? It's not one of those "you're a dummy" things like a hose clamp that just needs tightening or similar, right?

[BMWCurves]

I personally just love the way the stock ZHP sounds! I do wish it was louder though! Full car back for $300 sounds pretty good!

That's why I wanted the BMW Performance muffler so badly. Sadly I think only one member here got theirs in the mad rush to get them.

[san]

Full catback?

Yup cat back


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[BMWCurves]

Yup cat back

If it doesn't involve cutting, I'd get it. Worst case is if you don't like it, you can turn around and sell it. I imagine you'd get your money back pretty easily.

[san]

If it doesn't involve cutting, I'd get it. Worst case is if you don't like it, you can turn around and sell it. I imagine you'd get your money back pretty easily.

Ya, brand new they come as 2 sections... Hopefully it's not welded...


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[BMWCurves]

I'm planning on swapping out my front seats today for the M3 seats I picked up this weekend. I plan to use this DIY:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=657042

Is there anything else I need to do or should be worried about? I plan to disconnect the battery as my first step so I don't forget.

[ELCID86]

I'm planning on swapping out my front seats today for the M3 seats I picked up this weekend. I plan to use this DIY:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=657042

Is there anything else I need to do or should be worried about? I plan to disconnect the battery as my first step so I don't forget.

Be sure to get them into a good position (mostly forward?) before you disconnect.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[BMWCurves]

Good idea, thanks!

[TigerTater]

If I were to install O2 spacers (spark plug non-foulers) to get rid of a CEL with aftermarket headers it wouldn't have any affect on performance and airflow correct?

Plug non foulers don't really work on our cars. Much too smart. Only way to run headers and be obd2 compliant is to run a wide band controller to trick computer into seeing the rear o2 sensors are intact and functional

[stephenkirsh]

Hey, I went to my local non-dealer shop for a coolant flush. He says he pressure tested and spotted a leak at the water pump, wants $400 for the job, but NOTED that at least this includes the coolant flush as part of the job.

This all seem reasonable? It's not one of those "you're a dummy" things like a hose clamp that just needs tightening or similar, right?

You should really be replacing the entire cooling system. Search around for info. Parts and labor will be $700-1000 depending.

[UWISHU1]

I've been hearing and reading a lot about the cooling system reboot, so I plan to do it soon. Will the car start running hot and I'll be able to see it on the temp gauge with at least a little notice before a problem? I generally watch my temp gauge religiously.

[johnrando]

Question on O2 sensors that maybe someone can save me some lookup trouble. What is the recommended mileage to change them at?

[fredo]

I know the e90's interval to replace O2 sensors is 100,000 miles. This is based on miles, not years of use. However, I don't know about the e46. GL.

[BMWCurves]

I've been hearing and reading a lot about the cooling system reboot, so I plan to do it soon. Will the car start running hot and I'll be able to see it on the temp gauge with at least a little notice before a problem? I generally watch my temp gauge religiously.

If things start going south on your cooling system you'll probably see the temp gauge go up. That said, you'll want to shut your car down immediately if it starts to climb. I'd wager you might also see a bunch of steam if there's catastrophic failure (burst hose or something), but not much visual evidence if there's a steady leak.


Question on O2 sensors that maybe someone can save me some lookup trouble. What is the recommended mileage to change them at?

Someone said something recently regarding coils and O2 sensors, I think they said around 125k or earlier for the sensors.

[UWISHU1]

If things start going south on your cooling system you'll probably see the temp gauge go up. That said, you'll want to shut your car down immediately if it starts to climb. I'd wager you might also see a bunch of steam if there's catastrophic failure (burst hose or something), but not much visual evidence if there's a steady leak.
Noted. Thx man.

[johnrando]

Just remember our temp gauges have a wide range of "flux" in them so by the time you see it really going up, it's almost too late and you have to shut down immediately.

[BMWCurves]

Just remember our temp gauges have a wide range of "flux" in them so by the time you see it really going up, it's almost too late and you have to shut down immediately.

Yup, exactly. I think the stock range for dead center is 75ºC-115ºC. That's a huge range (40ºC) for the car's temperature gauge to be reading "normal."

[stephenkirsh]

I've been hearing and reading a lot about the cooling system reboot, so I plan to do it soon. Will the car start running hot and I'll be able to see it on the temp gauge with at least a little notice before a problem? I generally watch my temp gauge religiously.

By the time you see it climbing, it might be too late. M54 temp gauges are borderline useless.

[ELCID86]

Code the temp gauge to be more accurate.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[az3579]

O2 sensors are 100k items. Post cat O2 sensors don't really need to be replaced as they do nothing to the operation of the emissions system. I'd replace those IF they throw a code. The pre-cat sensors are the important ones.



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[Vas]

Code the temp gauge to be more accurate.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

Good advice.


O2 sensors are 100k items. Post cat O2 sensors don't really need to be replaced as they do nothing to the operation of the emissions system. I'd replace those IF they throw a code. The pre-cat sensors are the important ones.



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BP is correct. 100k is the interval.

[stephenkirsh]

So is it bad if I'm at 140k on the originals?

[BMWCurves]

Is there any issue with removing a tail light with the battery still connected, or should I disconnect the battery before I do that i.e. will it throw a code or some issue? I want to swap tail lights.

[az3579]

So is it bad if I'm at 140k on the originals?

Not really. If they're not throwing CEL codes then they're probably still good, though you're most likely not getting as good gas mileage as you would with new ones. Those sensors help with mixture preparation, so replacing them could still give you fuel economy benefits even if they're not throwing codes.

[danewilson77]

Is there any issue with removing a tail light with the battery still connected, or should I disconnect the battery before I do that i.e. will it throw a code or some issue? I want to swap tail lights.

No issue.

[BMWCurves]

No issue.

Awesome, thanks!

[stephenkirsh]

Not really. If they're not throwing CEL codes then they're probably still good, though you're most likely not getting as good gas mileage as you would with new ones. Those sensors help with mixture preparation, so replacing them could still give you fuel economy benefits even if they're not throwing codes.

I'm still getting the same MPG as when I bought the car 2+ years ago. It's not on DD duty any more, so it's not too big of a deal.

[az3579]

I'm still getting the same MPG as when I bought the car 2+ years ago. It's not on DD duty any more, so it's not too big of a deal.
In your case, I'd wait to replace them if it's not a daily anymore. OE ones are expensive, though the OEM Bosch ones are pretty much the same with a significantly lower price tag.

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[UWISHU1]

Code the temp gauge to be more accurate.
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/43645155.jpg

[BMWCurves]

Here you go: http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?12082-PA-SOFT-How-to-reprogram-our-temp-gauge

[UWISHU1]

^^^ That's fantastic. I'll have to see if it's something I can take on. Thx!

[UWISHU1]

Am I the only who finds some strange irony in a car with serious cooling problems and a mostly-useless temperature display?

[johnrando]

Probably not :)

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[stephenkirsh]

I think most of those gauges are like that now. I've been told the oil pressure gauge on my 95 Miata is basically an idiot light, and not a gauge. I imagine the temp is the same.

[Vas]

Reprogram the gauge and keep up with the cooling system maintenance you should not have any worries.

[BMWCurves]

I think most of those gauges are like that now. I've been told the oil pressure gauge on my 95 Miata is basically an idiot light, and not a gauge. I imagine the temp is the same.

Really? The pressure gauge in my father's NA Miata definitely registers pressure change as the motor oil heats up and thins out, and you can tell when it is half a quart high/low from the gauge as well.

[san]

Really? The pressure gauge in my father's NA Miata definitely registers pressure change as the motor oil heats up and thins out, and you can tell when it is half a quart high/low from the gauge as well.

Off topic but your dad has a coupe, convertible and a sedan??

Zhp, Miata and 540i ??

That's quite a list!!


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[Dr Dynamite]

Anybody have dove gray interior with an Alcantara drivers armrest? I'm wondering how much it would cost to wrap the armrest in Alcantara, the leather on the armrest is in need of some love.

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[Vas]

Anybody have dove gray interior with an Alcantara drivers armrest? I'm wondering how much it would cost to wrap the armrest in Alcantara, the leather on the armrest is in need of some love.

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You mean the center armrest ?

[Dr Dynamite]

You mean the center armrest ?
Yes sir

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[fw_fw]

Anybody have dove gray interior with an Alcantara drivers armrest? I'm wondering how much it would cost to wrap the armrest in Alcantara, the leather on the armrest is in need of some love.

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Check Coby's ad on top of the this website.....

[Vas]

Yes sir

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My wife's car has the center armrest in black Alcantara from coby wheel.

[danewilson77]

Check Coby's ad on top of the this website.....
+1

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[BMWCurves]

Off topic but your dad has a coupe, convertible and a sedan??

Zhp, Miata and 540i ??

That's quite a list!!

Yessir! He's selling the 540i and the Miata within the next year though. My sis might pick up the Miata.


Anybody have dove gray interior with an Alcantara drivers armrest? I'm wondering how much it would cost to wrap the armrest in Alcantara, the leather on the armrest is in need of some love.

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Why does the color of the interior matter? Or are you asking so you can see how an alcantara center armrest looks in a gray interior?

[Dr Dynamite]

My wife's car has the center armrest in black Alcantara from coby wheel.
I bet it looks nice

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[theothersawyer]

Nobody is happy after selling a Miata! They always regret it!

[stephenkirsh]

Really? The pressure gauge in my father's NA Miata definitely registers pressure change as the motor oil heats up and thins out, and you can tell when it is half a quart high/low from the gauge as well.

Mine pretty much never moves. Ever. 1995, 1.8L.

[Vas]

I bet it looks nice

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[BMWCurves]

Nobody is happy after selling a Miata! They always regret it!

I know...I don't look forward to it.


Mine pretty much never moves. Ever. 1995, 1.8L.

Huh, the pressure gauge in my father's moves through the RPM range.


http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160214/d627c6cb1242ce6c64aab9d53d4f06f9.jpg

All that colored stitching looks good

[stephenkirsh]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160214/d627c6cb1242ce6c64aab9d53d4f06f9.jpg

Striped stitching looks good. Wish I had a black interior to make that work.

[Dr Dynamite]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160214/d627c6cb1242ce6c64aab9d53d4f06f9.jpg
Looks awesome vas, your car?


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[Ssparrow]

Anyone install an aftermarket sub and amp with the stock headunit? Any diy links anywhere? I've been contemplating on getting a sub and amp to accompany the bsw stage one that I just ordered.

Thanks guys!

Edit: guess I should add I have Harman Kardon as well

[Vas]

Looks awesome vas, your car?


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Well wife's car.

[UWISHU1]

Can anyone point me toward instructions for Bluetooth pairing for my phone? All I can find in all the manuals is "see separate manual". Thx in advance.

[UWISHU1]

On a side note:

http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20160212/640/daily_picdump_2038_640_32.jpg

[WOLFN8TR]

WTH!?!? [emoji16]

[fredo]

Well wife's car.

:like

[Dr Dynamite]

On a side note:

http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20160212/640/daily_picdump_2038_640_32.jpg
Is it an upcoming part out? [emoji28]

What happened?

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[BMWCurves]

On a side note:

http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20160212/640/daily_picdump_2038_640_32.jpg

Whoa whoa whoa...what? The ice has formed around the car. It's been sitting there. What happened?

[cakM3]

On a side note:

http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20160212/640/daily_picdump_2038_640_32.jpg

okay you posted this pic..... please share the story behind this! :foottap

[az3579]

Is it an upcoming part out? [emoji28]

What happened?

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Photoshop happened.

[ELCID86]

Photoshop happened.

+1


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[NickZHP]

Does anyone know exactly what the capacity is for manual transmission oil on our cars? Is it 1.6qt? I am going to replace the oil with a 50/50 mix of Redline MTL and Redline D4 ATF. Also I don't need to buy new seal rings or anything for this correct?

[ELCID86]

Does anyone know exactly what the capacity is for manual transmission oil on our cars? Is it 1.6qt? I am going to replace the oil with a 50/50 mix of Redline MTL and Redline D4 ATF. Also I don't need to buy new seal rings or anything for this correct?

New crush washers?
And that sounds about right. It's less than 2qt. I just pump until it starts to run out of the hole--always some left in bottle.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - an e46fanatic

[UWISHU1]

WTH!?!? [emoji16]


Is it an upcoming part out? [emoji28]
What happened?


Whoa whoa whoa...what? The ice has formed around the car. It's been sitting there. What happened?


okay you posted this pic..... please share the story behind this! :foottap


Photoshop happened.


+1

I honestly don't know. It was posted on another forum by a guy who lives in Germany.

[theothersawyer]

I know...I don't look forward to it.



Huh, the pressure gauge in my father's moves through the RPM range.

The 89-94 had real functional oil pressure gauges. In 1995 they switched to fake dummy gauges!

[ZacharyMikel]

I honestly don't know. It was posted on another forum by a guy who lives in Germany.

I just love how you ask for Bluetooth pairing instructions, and then post that picture. Like, how bad could it have gone?! #dead


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[BMWCurves]

The 89-94 had real functional oil pressure gauges. In 1995 they switched to fake dummy gauges!

Huh, that's seems silly on Mazda's part. But you learn something new everyday!

[theothersawyer]

True story! I don't know why they did it, but it's stupid! Luckily I have a 94 so mine works! The parts can also be swapped so you have a working pressure gauge!

[stephenkirsh]

I knew I wasn't crazy!

[UWISHU1]

I just love how you ask for Bluetooth pairing instructions, and then post that picture. Like, how bad could it have gone?! #dead
haha...I was pressing buttons and the car just started rolling...

[fw_fw]

1. Did the lower grill/grid in the lower middle of the front bumper come in two different colors on ZHPs from the factory? I've seen pics of them in both black and silver/grey.

2. Similar question on the main front kidney grills, was there more than one color option and/or chrome on it from the factory on the ZHP? I realize the gloss black performance grill was an accessory option, but I'm talking from the factory.

Looking at the nose of my soon-arriving ZHP the lower grill is grey like I've seen several others on here, and the main grill is chrome surround with chrome edged slats.....

[Vas]

Grey is faded. Original black.
Zhp came with chrome Grills

[san]

1. Did the lower grill/grid in the lower middle of the front bumper come in two different colors on ZHPs from the factory? I've seen pics of them in both black and silver/grey.

2. Similar question on the main front kidney grills, was there more than one color option and/or chrome on it from the factory on the ZHP? I realize the gloss black performance grill was an accessory option, but I'm talking from the factory.

Looking at the nose of my soon-arriving ZHP the lower grill is grey like I've seen several others on here, and the main grill is chrome surround with chrome edged slats.....

As far as I know

1. Came only in grey. Many ppl paint them black

2. Chrome only

I'm pretty sure but others can correct me if I'm wrong


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[az3579]

As far as I know

1. Came only in grey. Many ppl paint them black



Nope. The lower grille is black from the factory. If it's grey, it's faded.

[san]

Nope. The lower grille is black from the factory. If it's grey, it's faded.

Ahh, thanks for correcting :thumbsup


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[az3579]

Ahh, thanks for correcting :thumbsup


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Can't wait to have the patience to replace mine so it's not grey anymore... really don't like removing my bumper. lol

[san]

Can't wait to have the patience to replace mine so it's not grey anymore... really don't like removing my bumper. lol

I know exactly what you mean, I've had my car for about an year and half now and I wanted to paint the lower grill black since day 1 and I still haven't done it :facepalm


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[ELCID86]

I had mine painted and its trying to turn itself grey again ;-(


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[johnrando]

Black from factory. I painted mine while on the car, no issues.

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[stephenkirsh]

You know it's a piece of shit plastic when every car is faded and people think it's OEM lol

[Hornung418]

You know, I've been wondering about that piece, too. If it works on exterior trim pieces, someone should try using a heat gun to restore it's stock color. I've done on my Volvo and it looks new.

Here is an example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9tDq1oRy9U

[NickZHP]

You know it's a piece of shit plastic when every car is faded and people think it's OEM lol

lol people actually thinking they came in grey

I removed my bumper and painted mine black a couple months ago. Definitely worth it and really not that hard.

[ZacharyMikel]

The gas prices thread got me thinking (searched a bit for this and didn't find much useful info):

There's a gas station in town that sells 90 octane non-ethanol for a reasonable price. No one has 91.

Normally, I've been running shell V-power 91 (just daily driving, no racing or Auto-x). Do you guys think it's harmful to drop down in octane rating just have have non-alcohol fuel? If there aren't any harmful differences, I may give it a shot.


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[Sockethead]

Didn't Dave (mtnman) have way to get the grille out without removing the bumper? Old thread from 2011 or so somewhere...

[az3579]

Didn't Dave (mtnman) have way to get the grille out without removing the bumper? Old thread from 2011 or so somewhere...

It's a real pain in the ass doing it that way.

[BMWCurves]

Didn't Dave (mtnman) have way to get the grille out without removing the bumper? Old thread from 2011 or so somewhere...

It's here (http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?1640-OMG-its-a-BMW-ZHP!!!!&p=41855#post41855)


It's a real pain in the ass doing it that way.

That's the reason I didn't do it. That, and I was lazy. Just tape it off with some painter's tape, put some newspaper behind the lower grille through the top, and spray the grille with a couple of coats. Really very simple.

[Dual]

As a rank newbie I'm glad I've found this thread. Hope I don't abuse it: please call me on it if I do. My question at this point- what's the best method to pry off the dashboard trim necessary to access the radio? I have an aux input adapter I'd like to install. When I bought the car earlier this week the seller took me to his M3 and pulled the trim and radio out to show me how it's done, but when I try, I can only get the trim loose- not remove it. Seems to require so much force that I risk scratching the trim (and did so, a bit, but a Sharpie put me right).

[Sockethead]

best method is to get the plastic pry tools made for the job but you can wrap a putty knife in several layers of tape and use that. Be careful when taking the trim above the radio off. the end closest to the steering wheel has a habit of breaking off. I'd try to pry from that end first. The other piece on the passenger side needs to come off first if I remember right.

[Dual]

Thank you! I have tools ordered from Amazon now.

[ELCID86]

The tools should be under $15 for a pack. Don't be surprised if some of the red/orange female retainers are destroyed in the process. I always keep a few on hand (and the clear/white ones for the door).


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[UWISHU1]

^^^ I'll be diving into all things panel removal this spring/summer...where do you buy the clips?

[BMWCurves]

As a rank newbie I'm glad I've found this thread. Hope I don't abuse it: please call me on it if I do. My question at this point- what's the best method to pry off the dashboard trim necessary to access the radio? I have an aux input adapter I'd like to install. When I bought the car earlier this week the seller took me to his M3 and pulled the trim and radio out to show me how it's done, but when I try, I can only get the trim loose- not remove it. Seems to require so much force that I risk scratching the trim (and did so, a bit, but a Sharpie put me right).

As others have said, get a set of trim removal tools. Remove the passenger dash trim piece first by lifting up under each pin's location evenly. Don't just yank out one side all the way first. Take your time. Patience will help keep you from snapping something. I would look at pictures of each trim piece so you know where the pins on each trim piece are:

Passenger trim piece: https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330Ci-M54_3.0L/Interior/Trim/Dashboard/ES117248/
Center trim piece: https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330Ci-M54_3.0L/Interior/Trim/Dashboard/ES117836/

Hope that helps!


^^^ I'll be diving into all things panel removal this spring/summer...where do you buy the clips?

The part number is 51458266814 and I would bet you could pick some up from your local dealer. Otherwise, order online. Just Google the part number and compare prices across a few sellers.

[Dual]

Hope that helps!

It certainly did! I am very appreciative to all for such rapid and detailed information.

[ELCID86]

It certainly did! I am very appreciative to all for such rapid and detailed information.

The dash and door p/ns are different.


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[fredo]

this info is for the clips on door and dash trim:

51458266814 = red clip for dash trim
07149158194 = clear clip for door trim

[ELCID86]

this info is for the clips on door and dash trim:

51458266814 = red clip for dash trim
07149158194 = clear clip for door trim

Nice assist Fred!

[UWISHU1]

The part number is 51458266814 and I would bet you could pick some up from your local dealer. Otherwise, order online. Just Google the part number and compare prices across a few sellers.
Will do. Thx man!

[05Imola]

So last night I got a coolant light but disappeared after 10 minutes. Parked the car up and could see some wetness on the under tray but nothing dripping. Checked the car this morning and the coolant level was fine. Maybe 1/4 in from full when cold. Let the car get up to temp and let the thermostat come on and still no coolant light or any leaks. Not sure what it could be. Might be possible expansion tank but it didn't have any visible leaks without me taking my intake off etc. I guess next step is to get a pressure tester and check then. Any ideas guys?

[Vas]

Check the cap. That is usually the first place to leak unless there is a crack in the tank itself.

[Dual]

Want to thank everyone here for their help with getting my aux input adapter in. At least 2 in-out cycles with the trim pieces while I figured my way around things, and not one broken clip! Many thanks.

[ELCID86]

What are the rear spring color markings on a ZHP sedan?


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[terraphantm]

What are the rear spring color markings on a ZHP sedan?


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

It'll vary based on the options the cars came with. Should be the same as any 02+ 330i either way

[danewilson77]

What are the rear spring color markings on a ZHP sedan?


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous
Three green.

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[ELCID86]

Thanks. And i assume coupe and sedan are different ? Guy on I found a set for sale. Looks like 3 blue.

24488


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[Sockethead]

Are you looking for a set of ZHP springs for a sedan? I have a set...

[ELCID86]

Are you looking for a set of ZHP springs for a sedan? I have a set...

Why yes I am. Drop them by on your way past?! ;)

If you want to sell, let me know.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[Sockethead]

It would be nice not to have to move them. Make me an offer.
I'd stop by on the way down but we're going to have a convoy of 5 vehicles and three trailers

[ELCID86]

It would be nice not to have to move them. Make me an offer.
I'd stop by on the way down but we're going to have a convoy of 5 vehicles and three trailers

I want to be on the overpass and see that monstrosity come by! I'll text you.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[Sockethead]

LOl sounds good!

[Karl Lazlo]

It would be nice not to have to move them. Make me an offer.
I'd stop by on the way down but we're going to have a convoy of 5 vehicles and three trailers

Need a driver?

I will send you my CV, driving abstract and proposal via PM.

[terraphantm]

Thanks. And i assume coupe and sedan are different ? Guy on I found a set for sale. Looks like 3 blue.

24488


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

Depends on the equipment. There were something like 4 different springs offered in the rear. Looks like low optioned coupes had one extra spring that wasn't offered on the sedans.

[ELCID86]

Thanks TP. ;-)


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[UWISHU1]

What is/are known/good solution(s) to the small cup-holder problem?

Thx in advance,
-U

[BMWCurves]

What is/are known/good solution(s) to the small cup-holder problem?

Thx in advance,
-U

Do you want a bigger cupholder? If so, I think the Ultimate Cupholder is an option: http://www.ultimatecupholders.com/

A lot of people get rid of their cupholders in favor of a Eurotray, such as this (part no. 51167038323 for black): https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Jack/ES83030/

Otherwise I don't really know what other options there are.

[ELCID86]

I have the Ultimate Cupholder and it's not.


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[johnrando]

What is/are known/good solution(s) to the small cup-holder problem?

Thx in advance,
-U

Not really, what do you need? I also use the Ultimate, and it's barely ok. I also have a couple of others that suffice, but nothing really sturdy/100% reliable vs. the original ones.

[fredo]

What is/are known/good solution(s) to the small cup-holder problem?

Thx in advance,
-U

I have a cheap fix, it works great for me. My son's sippy cup is too wide for the car's cup holder. I got a plastic cup from Taco Bell (large size) and always carry it in the car. Sippy cup goes into Taco Bell cup, which goes into cup holder. Hope it helps.

[rguti153]

So what yall think if I put her on my bark rear door window . In the little small window . Lol kinda childish. Maybe when I give my car to my wife . She wants it 24507

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[Sockethead]

Hey, if it makes the wife happy, it's a win ;)

[theothersawyer]

How is the Shadowline trim attached? My passenger side rear door area is coming undone, but it seems like it became unglued from a tab. I want to fix it before the whole thing comes off and I need to spend a small fortune to fix it!

[ZacharyMikel]

How is the Shadowline trim attached? My passenger side rear door area is coming undone, but it seems like it became unglued from a tab. I want to fix it before the whole thing comes off and I need to spend a small fortune to fix it!

I would like to know this too, my driver door part is starting to come off!


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[Vas]

How is the Shadowline trim attached? My passenger side rear door area is coming undone, but it seems like it became unglued from a tab. I want to fix it before the whole thing comes off and I need to spend a small fortune to fix it!


I would like to know this too, my driver door part is starting to come off!


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It is attached via clips which are really fragile. It is actually not a really great design.

You can pull the trim off and apply double sided tape or pull the complete trim and replace all the clips.

[ELCID86]

+1 on them being fragile. Anybody got a pic?

Here is one link http://www.e46fanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=866331

And who is the cak323 guy that posted there? Anyone we know?
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[theothersawyer]

I meant to take one, but was in a hurry when I noticed it. I only noticed it because the door was actually catching on the Shadowline!

[Vas]

I meant to take one, but was in a hurry when I noticed it. I only noticed it because the door was actually catching on the Shadowline!
That is how it starts. Then it just gets worse

[az3579]

And who is the cak323 guy that posted there? Anyone we know?

That's Charlie...

[theothersawyer]

I don't want it to get worse!

[az3579]

I don't want it to get worse!

3M double-sided tape works like a charm.

[theothersawyer]

I'll definitely be doing that! Need to use 3M tape to install my front splitters anyways!

[ELCID86]

That's Charlie...

Thought so. Thread from 2011!


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[UWISHU1]

Thx for the cupholder input...does anyone have experience with the Euro tray? It seems to be a good template to work with. I prefer to do things as "right"/permanent/factory as possible.

[BMWCurves]

Thx for the cupholder input...does anyone have experience with the Euro tray? It seems to be a good template to work with. I prefer to do things as "right"/permanent/factory as possible.

My father has one in his ZHP. I like it. I really wish they made a center console with one cup holder at the front the rest is a sliding tray like in the euro tray. One guy tried to custom fab one

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12264206&postcount=16

[ELCID86]

I have the sliding euro tray. I do like it. You can set a small drink in there (water bottle, etc) and slide the door closed to help secure it.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[Ssparrow]

I have the sliding euro tray. I do like it. You can set a small drink in there (water bottle, etc) and slide the door closed to help secure it.


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

+1 This is exactly what I do with my euro tray and it works well! I hardly ever need to use it as a cup holder as most of the time I'm either using my coffee thermos, or a water bottle

[theothersawyer]

Sad times! I'll fix it this weekend probably!
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/GaAsSlugger22/423D8C83-4501-4DB4-8053-2C536567B430_zpseselk6yl.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/GaAsSlugger22/media/423D8C83-4501-4DB4-8053-2C536567B430_zpseselk6yl.jpg.html)

[Jconlin16]

Sad times! I'll fix it this weekend probably!
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/GaAsSlugger22/423D8C83-4501-4DB4-8053-2C536567B430_zpseselk6yl.jpg (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/GaAsSlugger22/media/423D8C83-4501-4DB4-8053-2C536567B430_zpseselk6yl.jpg.html)

I have this exact same problem, I feel your pain man.

[Vas]

Yup clip unglued from the trim

[gammagoblin]

There's probably a better way, but when that happened with my trim I slathered some gorilla glue on all the contact points, and 3 years of wild temp swings later it's still there!

[UWISHU1]

My father has one in his ZHP. I like it. I really wish they made a center console with one cup holder at the front the rest is a sliding tray like in the euro tray. One guy tried to custom fab one

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12264206&postcount=16

I have the sliding euro tray. I do like it. You can set a small drink in there (water bottle, etc) and slide the door closed to help secure it.

+1 This is exactly what I do with my euro tray and it works well! I hardly ever need to use it as a cup holder as most of the time I'm either using my coffee thermos, or a water bottle

Interesting stuffs. I'm thinking just going Euro tray is my best bet. I'd probably fab something to go into it as a cupholder. I used to do car stereos back in the day...like way back when you had to make your own dash kits....so I've got some skill with molding plastic and making things go into others and still look nice. Time may tell if I've still got it. Question: Can you wedge just about any cup size into the euro tray and slide it shut and that does alright? Like is it a lot better than my current small cupholder situation, and also better than the Ultimate Cupholder?

[az3579]

Interesting stuffs. I'm thinking just going Euro tray is my best bet. I'd probably fab something to go into it as a cupholder. I used to do car stereos back in the day...like way back when you had to make your own dash kits....so I've got some skill with molding plastic and making things go into others and still look nice. Time may tell if I've still got it. Question: Can you wedge just about any cup size into the euro tray and slide it shut and that does alright? Like is it a lot better than my current small cupholder situation, and also better than the Ultimate Cupholder?

Why not just keep your cupholder insert in the glovebox and swap it out with the euro tray when you need it? It takes all of 5 seconds. :)

[ELCID86]

Interesting stuffs. I'm thinking just going Euro tray is my best bet. I'd probably fab something to go into it as a cupholder. I used to do car stereos back in the day...like way back when you had to make your own dash kits....so I've got some skill with molding plastic and making things go into others and still look nice. Time may tell if I've still got it. Question: Can you wedge just about any cup size into the euro tray and slide it shut and that does alright? Like is it a lot better than my current small cupholder situation, and also better than the Ultimate Cupholder?

A big gulp or McD's iced tea won't fit. And if they did would be very risky...


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[BMWCurves]

Interesting stuffs. I'm thinking just going Euro tray is my best bet. I'd probably fab something to go into it as a cupholder. I used to do car stereos back in the day...like way back when you had to make your own dash kits....so I've got some skill with molding plastic and making things go into others and still look nice. Time may tell if I've still got it. Question: Can you wedge just about any cup size into the euro tray and slide it shut and that does alright? Like is it a lot better than my current small cupholder situation, and also better than the Ultimate Cupholder?

Comparing the cupholder in my car to the eurotray in my father's car, there really isn't a whole lot of difference in width/diameter that either one can hold. The cupholder does "taper" in a way since it has a two-tiered opening, but even so, both are limited by the width of the center console.

[UWISHU1]

Why not just keep your cupholder insert in the glovebox and swap it out with the euro tray when you need it? It takes all of 5 seconds. :)
Are you talking about using OEM parts to accomplish this? The stock cupholder insert can insert into the euro tray?




A big gulp or McD's iced tea won't fit. And if they did would be very risky...

Comparing the cupholder in my car to the eurotray in my father's car, there really isn't a whole lot of difference in width/diameter that either one can hold. The cupholder does "taper" in a way since it has a two-tiered opening, but even so, both are limited by the width of the center console.
Thx gents, good info.

[az3579]

Are you talking about using OEM parts to accomplish this? The stock cupholder insert can insert into the euro tray?





Thx gents, good info.
It doesn't insert "into" it, it replaces it entirely. Just lift it out and put the cupholder in, and vice versa. Quick change.

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[Sockethead]

It doesn't insert "into" it, it replaces it entirely. Just lift it out and put the cupholder in, and vice versa. Quick change.



This....
Never thought about that BP, Great idea!

[az3579]

This....
Never thought about that BP, Great idea!

I've thought about this dilemma myself quite a few times and is the best solution I could come up with. lol
I don't keep anything else in my glovebox save for maybe a Lightning cable for when a friend wants to charge their ... Apple thing-a-ma-bob...
So, the cupholder fits perfectly in there, which will be a handy quick-swap for when I get my euro tray and new console. :thumbsup

[UWISHU1]

Hmm, maybe I'm being dense here.

This is the euro tray that was linked, so I'm assuming it's the one everyone's talking about:
https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/713461_x800.jpg

And this is how someone modified the stock cupholder to work with the euro console:
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=376648&d=1285158726

If I understand what you're saying correctly, you're talking about quickly interchanging the stock cupholder for the euro tray. Do you mean quickly exchanging the whole console? Plz halp me understand this.

[BMWCurves]

The center console is broken up into two pieces for US cars. The front section has two cupholders, like so:

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/11267_x800.jpg

The rear section has an open storage "tray" with a coinholder:

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/30009_x800.jpg

As far as I know, there are two European or "euro trays." There is a third, but that's for cars with built in phones or something, so I won't touch on it.

1. There is the "short" that is the same size as the cupholders and can swap out directly with it. Part no. 51167043093 (black), 51167043094 (gray), and 51167043095 (beige)

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/190005_x800.jpg

2. There is the "long" tray which replaces both the cupholders and the coin tray as a single piece. This is considered the "true" euro tray. Part no. 51167038323 (black), 51167038324 (gray), and 51167038325 (beige)

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/713458_x800.jpg

3. There is also a third option that is just two open bins. Personally I prefer the sliding cover of the euro trays, but some may prefer the open nature of this bin:

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/473567_x800.jpg

[UWISHU1]

Great post man. Thx for breaking it down for me. Interchanging the short euro tray with the USDM cupholders seems pretty simple, but not simple enough to just throw in when I happen to know I'll be using a large cup, especially since it may not help much anyway. I like the idea of using a Taco Bell type large cup, but it just seems so jenky. I was really sad that the Ultimate doesn't sound like it works very well. Can anyone elaborate on the problems it has? I'm wondering if some modification can overcome them? If so, I'd get the long, covered euro tray and just use a pair of Ultimates as cup holders on each side of the console.

[UWISHU1]

...just so you guys know where I'm coming from- I use my cupholder(s) every day since I'm drinking something on the way to work, and often a drink from lunch (varying sizes), and regularly use a variety of protein shake shakers. Sometimes I'm juggling two at a time, plus a water bottle. So yeah, you could say the cupholder situation is important to me. With that said, I also need more space than in the armrest for things like chargers, etc. that I don't want to put in the door card.

[az3579]

Great post man. Thx for breaking it down for me. Interchanging the short euro tray with the USDM cupholders seems pretty simple, but not simple enough to just throw in when I happen to know I'll be using a large cup, especially since it may not help much anyway.

What's not simple about it? It takes very little effort to do. I just want to make sure you know that they literally just lift up and out when you grab them by the little notches towards the front on both sides.



I like the idea of using a Taco Bell type large cup, but it just seems so jenky.

I've never had an issue fitting the largest of fast food chain cups in my cupholders, and they are pretty stable if left untouched. Unless Taco Bell offers some kind of gallon size I don't know about, I don't foresee this being an issue for the stock cupholders.

The shaker - these cars weren't designed with cupholders in mind, and shakers are too big for the standard cupholders. What I do with non-standard size bottles is extend the passenger seat thigh rest all the way and let the bottle sit on its side in the ridge between the bolster and the seat cushion.

[Vas]

Any thoughts opinions on ecstuning version of brake caliper sliders?

https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330i-M54_3.0L/Braking/Caliper/ES2918637/

[UWISHU1]

I suppose it just comes down to preference. I don't want to have to retrieve and install a different console piece as often as I'd need to, regardless of how simple the swap is. I intend to find a solution that always works for both storage and cup holders, one way or another. That's the beauty of the aftermarket- there's always a way to get what you want. I know cup holders are far from what BMW engineers are focused on, and that's probably a good thing. All the shakers and larger cups I use fit in my Subaru, my Hondas, and the wife's RDX, so I'm gonna say BMW screwed up a little by making them too small. Another problem I have is that I use a gatorade water bottle from time to time for sports like indoor soccer, and that doesn't fit either. I think this is why The Ultimate Cupholder exists.

I'm genuinely curious as to what about the ultimate cupholder doesn't work well so I can see if I can overcome it. I've got resources up to and including talented engineer friends who have made me some pretty clever designs over the years, so it's also possible I call on them to come up with a better solution.

Thx for the idea on extending the thigh rest...I'll definitely be using that for some things. I think that ultimately a euro console (for storage) and a couple modified/optimized ultimate cupholders could be the solution I need.

[Sockethead]

Europeans think cup holders are silly, that's why they suck in BMWs.

I use the extended thigh rest for everything, works great as a convenient storage bin ;)

[danewilson77]

Does anyone else have a mirror like this?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160227/312cea616398d16f360c0aa240b15844.jpg

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[terraphantm]

My M3 came with one, and so did my mom's 330xi. You got it if you had BMW Assist

[theothersawyer]

Mine is like that! BMW Assist!

[cakM3]

Does anyone else have a mirror like this?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160227/312cea616398d16f360c0aa240b15844.jpg

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I did. As Terra posted you got this mirror if your car came with BMW Assist. I took off my BMW Assist mirror and retrofitted an Oval ///M rear view mirror in my M3 instead.


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[theothersawyer]

I've never actually pushed the buttons, what do they do?

[KevinC]

I have Assist too, pretty sure it won't work nowadays as it's probably an old analog cell radio.

[ELCID86]

I've never actually pushed the buttons, what do they do?

Try it and let us know!


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[theothersawyer]

I pushed it and I got connected to an automated service! Couldn't get her to shut up though! I'll take a video and post it up!

[GotZHP]

So is it "ok" to drive with a vacuum leak that is causing some idle hunt issues?

New job starts Monday and I dont know if I should take her car for the week or take the ZHP.

Let me know your thoughts. Lot more info in my build thread in the project paage for background info.

Just replaced DISA valve, cleaned ICV, new lower intake boot, new air filter. Car still idle hunts but doesnt stall. vacuum leak can be heard at idle when looking over the motor.

Let me know guys, thanks a bunch.

[danewilson77]

So is it "ok" to drive with a vacuum leak that is causing some idle hunt issues?

New job starts Monday and I dont know if I should take her car for the week or take the ZHP.

Let me know your thoughts. Lot more info in my build thread in the project paage for background info.

Just replaced DISA valve, cleaned ICV, new lower intake boot, new air filter. Car still idle hunts but doesnt stall. vacuum leak can be heard at idle when looking over the motor.

Let me know guys, thanks a bunch.
Wouldn't drive too long like that.

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[theothersawyer]

Try it and let us know!


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous
Here ya go! It cut out (possibly due to bad connection) in the middle of it, which is why I tried to get it to hang up! As you can see though, it doesn't matter if I turn off the car or open the door she won't stop talking! Lol

http://youtu.be/-ck0lnJwbjE

[danewilson77]

Here ya go! It cut out (possibly due to bad connection) in the middle of it, which is why I tried to get it to hang up! As you can see though, it doesn't matter if I turn off the car or open the door she won't stop talking! Lol

http://youtu.be/-ck0lnJwbjE
When was this? Recent?

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[theothersawyer]

Last night!

[ELCID86]

Lol. What's "enhanced road-side assistance" and what if you can call 911! Seems like they are missing an opportunity to to help people in a pinch (accident) and make a sale... "We are happy to assist you just read off your credit card and expiration date and we'll be happy to send you whatever assistance you need..." ;-)


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"ZHP is a garbage option anyway- just some cosmetic upgrades with a different cam and diff to claw back some of the performance lost fitting those hideous and heavy wheels. Any 330 with a 3.46 diff will smoke a ZHP every time. The whole Mafia thing reeks of childish behavior." - anonymous

[mynamenumber]

Here ya go! It cut out (possibly due to bad connection) in the middle of it, which is why I tried to get it to hang up! As you can see though, it doesn't matter if I turn off the car or open the door she won't stop talking! Lol

http://youtu.be/-ck0lnJwbjE


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[justinwilson77]

So going off of this discussion...it says in the FAQ that if your car was ordered with BMW assist you have Bluetooth. Since I have this mirror, I assume that mine was ordered with BMW assist. Does anyone know where the bluetooth module is located on a sedan?

[justinwilson77]

For comparison, here is my vin decoded compared to the old mans. Mine has BMW Assist, his doesnt. Code 639 makes me think I have bluetooth vs his code 640...

Mine:
24691

DW77:
24692

[san]

So going off of this discussion...it says in the FAQ that if your car was ordered with BMW assist you have Bluetooth. Since I have this mirror, I assume that mine was ordered with BMW assist. Does anyone know where the bluetooth module is located on a sedan?

I think it's located in the boot, on the driver side behind the trim...


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[justinwilson77]

I think it's located in the boot, on the driver side behind the trim...


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Yea I looked back there and I saw a silver box on top of the bracket where the CD Changer would be. Is that the Bluetooth receiver? I'll take a pic of it after work. The reason why I wasnt sure was that it didnt look like the one in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nF1t_gwczoo#t=50

[san]

Yea I looked back there and I saw a silver box on top of the bracket where the CD Changer would be. Is that the Bluetooth receiver? I'll take a pic of it after work. The reason why I wasnt sure was that it didnt look like the one in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nF1t_gwczoo#t=50

I know which module you are referring to and I don't think that is the Bluetooth module, but I could be wrong... The reason being it looks quite big to be a Bluetooth module and the Bluetooth module should have a sticker which shows the pairing code etc... I'm assuming yours doesn't have the sticker with the pairing code etc cause mine doesn't too...


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[theothersawyer]

Also interested in this! I want Bluetooth!

[justinwilson77]

Also interested in this! I want Bluetooth!


I know which module you are referring to and I don't think that is the Bluetooth module, but I could be wrong... The reason being it looks quite big to be a Bluetooth module and the Bluetooth module should have a sticker which shows the pairing code etc... I'm assuming yours doesn't have the sticker with the pairing code etc cause mine doesn't too...


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https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E46-330i-M54_3.0L/Interior/Sound_System/Bluetooth/ES264213/

This is what mine looks like I believe.

This end is facing the rear of the car.

24698

[ecrabb]

Interested in the Bluetooth discussion. My car has nav, but no Assist so no Bluetooth, and not interested in spending $678 on it. Might have to be an eBay pickup at some point.

OK, so two random ZHP questions....

1) What's the consensus on the guibo/flex disc? My car only has 44,000 miles on it, but it's also going on 12 years old. I know rubber gets pretty hard over time. The reason I ask is the car will be on stands on a week or so getting wheels refurbed and I'll be under the car doing FCABs, and I was think of a couple of other easy things to do while I was under there. I don't want to just throw money at stuff unnecessarily, though. Has anybody changed it and noticed a significant difference in NVH?

2) When I get out of my car, there's quite a creaky sound coming from the left-rear suspension. I know it's the suspension unloading, but the creaky sound sounds like a pie tin or sheet metal. Any thoughts on mitigation? I should probably do a rear suspension refresh at some point, but it's down the list a little.

Thanks!

SC

[justinwilson77]

Also interested in this! I want Bluetooth!

I think you have bluetooth as well. Look in your owners manual for a card like this:

24699

It should also have a manual like this:

24700

The bluetooth receiver is on the driver side of the boot, behind the lining. Should look like this:

24701

The next question is how to reset it. Every time I try to go through the pairing procedure it starts dialing using the original owners phone number, which is out of service. It takes me to a Verizon error message that repeats but it doesn't let me rest it or pair.

[san]

The bluetooth receiver is on the driver side of the boot, behind the lining. Should look like this:

24701

The next question is how to reset it. Every time I try to go through the pairing procedure it starts dialing using the original owners phone number, which is out of service. It takes me to a Verizon error message that repeats but it doesn't let me rest it or pair.

I thought that isn't the Bluetooth module and there should be another module next to or on top of it, which should be the Bluetooth module, no?


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[justinwilson77]

I thought that isn't the Bluetooth module and there should be another module next to or on top of it, which should be the Bluetooth module, no?


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Negative, that is the bluetooth module. theres two different types. This one is the TCU and is the standard bluetooth module for vehicles with BMW assist.

The ULF is the standard module for vehicles with nav:

24702

[justinwilson77]

Just realized that the vin on that bluetooth passkey card is not my vin. I used vin decoder and found out it came from a non zhp 330i that was made in 2004 as well. However, it has the same tech and connectivity packages as mine. I suspect that the previous owner bought this manual online and it came with that.

[san]

Negative, that is the bluetooth module. theres two different types. This one is the TCU and is the standard bluetooth module for vehicles with BMW assist.

The ULF is the standard module for vehicles with nav:

24702

I don't think I have BMW assist based in the vin decoder but I do have the same module as you in the same location... Now I'm confused... Here's a pic of my option list-

24703

Im guessing that the PO installed it...


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[justinwilson77]

I don't think I have BMW assist based in the vin decoder but I do have the same module as you in the same location... Now I'm confused... Here's a pic of my option list-

24703

Im guessing that the PO installed it...


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Very interesting...I'm confused as well. What happens when you press the sneezing man button on your steering wheel? Also, could you take a picture of your module to compare to mine? I'm curious if it has the same cables hooked up.

[san]

Very interesting...I'm confused as well. What happens when you press the sneezing man button on your steering wheel? Also, could you take a picture of your module to compare to mine? I'm curious if it has the same cables hooked up.

When I press it first it yells out "sorry" and when I press it again it yells "system off"


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[BMWCurves]

When I press it first it yells out "sorry" and when I press it again it yells "system off"

That's not very German.