G Power Supercharger

[derbo]

Anyone put any research into this one?

http://www.g-power.com/391.html?&L=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=317&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=315&cHash=8f84d0df00


http://www.g-power.com/typo3temp/pics/7f34657ea9.jpg

[Hornung418]

Read about that in the latest issue of Roundel.

I don't like the idea of it not being a TS2 from ESS...

Look at where the Filter sits relative to the MAF. That's all turbulence. :(

Nice price for the kit though!!

[Avetiso]

G-Power: 306hp @ $4,500.

AA Stage 2: 405hp @ $6,200.

VF Engineering: 330hp @ $4,800.

I don't think that this kit is a very good value for the gains. Plus, that orange intake is whack, IMO.

[Hermes]

Does not eliminate DISA, pass

[Lanister]

I love forced induction but I find the idea of boosting a naturally aspirated engine without a proper bottom-end build is like making a time-bomb. They're just not made to take that much abuse. If it was up to me, I'd go with a turbo charger setup with a bottom-end rebuild.

[derbo]

schmiedmann shows it at under $3000. The Roundel issue I vaguely remember it mentioning under $4000 for the kit.


As far as turbulence goes, It wouldn't really matter too much considering its a supercharger and it compresses the air anyways?


The kit itself is street legal in Germany, which is probably why it would sound pleasing to those over there.

[Avetiso]

Oh. I thought the website price applied. 3,320 euros.

If it's under $3,000, not bad at all.

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[cakM3]

For me the ESS TS2 is the way to go... :thumbsup

Pricing is set at $6,850.00 for this kit. For a manual ZHP you an expect to see Horsepower at 355 SAE/360 DIN with Torque of 317 lb-ft/430 Nm.

With a ESS TS2+ 8.5PSI upgrade kit you get the following...Horsepower: 375 SAE/380 DIN and Torque at 342 lb-ft/465 Nm. Pricing for this kit is set at $495.00.

So the TS2 kit and TS2+ kit you end up shelling out $7345 total which amounts to $1145 more than what you would pay for the AA Stage 2 kit. Even though the AA Stage 2 kit is advertised to have more horsepower than the ESS TS2+ setup, you still have the DISA issue as this kit does not eliminate the DISA....something to think about...

The GPower offering is different, and or some, cheap enough to get them into boosting their cars but as JP pointed out, you still have to deal with the DISA issue going this route. With the ESS kit, you eliminate the DISA and all issues associated with that....that's all I'm saying....

[Hermes]

Neither ESS model is CARB approved, aka you can't pass visual

[cakM3]

Neither ESS model is CARB approved, aka you can't pass visual

I don't have to worry about that up here in Rhody JP.....

[Hermes]

Yeah, but Derek would

[derbo]

Thanks JP. As long as it passes the OBDII check and sniffer for now, I would be able to pass ;)

[az3579]

Everyone's complaining about the DISA... it really isn't a big deal, guys. Replace the components on an interval and you've got nothing to worry about.
Stupidly small price to pay considering how much money you could save by getting the cheaper supercharger kit. You could replace DISA components for longer than your lifetime and still be ahead financially.

[Smolck]

I love forced induction but I find the idea of boosting a naturally aspirated engine without a proper bottom-end build is like making a time-bomb. They're just not made to take that much abuse. If it was up to me, I'd go with a turbo charger setup with a bottom-end rebuild.
Always wondered why BMW put a very strong forged crank in the M54 but not the rods.

[Avetiso]

You guys honestly think the M54 couldn't handle 8.5psi? Plenty of people have run that boost for extended periods of time (some 50k+ miles) with no issues... Don't see it as a big deal.

Upgrading to S54 makes much more sense instead of building the bottom, IMO.

[prowlerflyer]

I've got 60k miles (total engine 120k) on my TS2 setup without any issues. It has also passed smog/inspection in 2 states (not CA).

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[Hermes]

Everyone's complaining about the DISA... it really isn't a big deal, guys. Replace the components on an interval and you've got nothing to worry about.
Stupidly small price to pay considering how much money you could save by getting the cheaper supercharger kit. You could replace DISA components for longer than your lifetime and still be ahead financially.

Not complaining about DISA, but deleting it will get rid of the power dip. Probably makes a bigger dip with FI

[az3579]

Not complaining about DISA, but deleting it will get rid of the power dip. Probably makes a bigger dip with FI

Adding more power doesn't necessary equate to a bigger power dip. The dip from my understanding is a software related issue. The supercharger kit would probably come with its own software flash.

I don't feel that taking this kit out of the equation because of its retention of the DISA is fair in the slightest.

[Lanister]

You guys honestly think the M54 couldn't handle 8.5psi? Plenty of people have run that boost for extended periods of time (some 50k+ miles) with no issues... Don't see it as a big deal.

Upgrading to S54 makes much more sense instead of building the bottom, IMO.

It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. An S54 will only take you so far. A turbo is a whole new world and it's pretty awesome :)

[Hermes]

It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. An S54 will only take you so far. A turbo is a whole new world and it's pretty awesome :)

But a turbo S54 can take you to 1100hp, not gonna happen on a turbo M54

[Lanister]

That is so very true, JP :)

[derbo]

I was only curious if anyone looking into the G power Supercharger system :P

[Smolck]

Why don't you guys buy me one and I will give you a full write up on it?:rofl

I mean, if it works on my 205k mile engine and original clutch, it will be perfect for ANYONE!