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Pip
01-03-2014, 02:33 PM
This is verified and tested with an Android phone and iPhone 5 (iOS7) as of January 17, 2014.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7yOI45ok2E

I'm selling an OEM bluetooth setup with everything you need to retrofit your system. It should only take about 1 hour max to put this together and get your business radio supporting bluetooth.

DIY from Crickett here:
http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?1654-DIY-OEM-Bluetooth-Retrofit

Price: $200 shipped + paypal fees

The TCU costs ~$242 so I think this is a good deal since all you need is your car, a Philips screwdriver, 8mm socket, and some free time. The black plastic mic cover WILL NOT be provided. The mic will be provided, but I did not remove the mic from the cover before taking photos.

Pictures:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/11739523564_67f63be30d_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/11739904196_ca841f526e_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/11739389923_fd845ec59c_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2879/11739395623_b32d886e8d_b.jpg

E_Rak
01-03-2014, 03:00 PM
Hmmm tempting. Includes everything needed for install less the mic cover?

Pip
01-03-2014, 03:11 PM
Sorry I wasn't clear in the original post.

This will include everything for the OEM BT install if you have business radio. The Nav users might have a slight change in one part. The mic cover is not included because all cars should have one installed without a mic already.

Our cars come prewired for BT so the antenna, mic, and TCU with brackets/hardware are all you need. You have to plug the TCU in the trunk (driver side), plug antenna in below rear of center console, and plug mic in near homelink. You should then be able to use BT -- I believe this works for phone calls etc. I do not believe BMW was so advanced in the past to do music streaming across the BT.

cakM3
01-03-2014, 08:02 PM
Looks like a good opportunity for someone Sean :thumbsup

JupiterBMW
01-03-2014, 08:32 PM
Which part (and what does it cost?) needs to be changed for those of us with OEM Nav...? Interested... Thanks!


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Pip
01-03-2014, 08:37 PM
Charlie, not sure if my connection is slow to update but I'm adding this to the thread because I did not know about this and I want to be transparent with the family.

"One thing to point out Sean is that your TCU module is either 6th or 7th generation based on the part number shown. The part number for the 13th gen is 84-10-9154358. Not trying to mess your sale but it's also important to note that the older generation TCU/ULF modules do not necessarily support current bluetooth enabled phones. I have a 6th gen ULF module and my current iPhone 5s does not work with it. Just because it has bluetooth, doesn't necessarily mean that it will connect with every bluetooth enabled device. Either way…GLWS :thumbsup"

Thank you for posting this and hopefully helping someone out because the last thing I want is for someone to be upset they spent the money.

Pip
01-03-2014, 08:40 PM
This is from sna77:

If you want VR to work with OEM Nav, you need a ULF, not TCU.

TCU / Assist combo units do NOT have VR that will work with OEM Nav. No way to change that with clever programming either.

13th gen TCU part # is: 84109154358
http://www.bimmernav.com/ulfchanges.html

I've extensively documented the process here, as well as the difference between a ULF and TCU.
http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showt...and-Parts-List

But IMO, I would go the TCU route over ULF at this point. The TCU was updated last year and works with all the latest iPhones etc. The ULF hasn't been updated in a few years, requires a discontinued pairing button. Plus, the VR isn't that useful anyhow. Remember, this is essentially a 10+ year old Nav system at the core. The VR works for basic commands like "find gas station" but beyond that it isn't very useful...

Pip
01-03-2014, 08:47 PM
Which part (and what does it cost?) needs to be changed for those of us with OEM Nav...? Interested... Thanks!


iPhone 5S. Tapatalk Pro. BOOM

You would need a ULF instead of a TCU like I'm offering. I'd be willing to split and sell the remaining pieces if you're seriously interested. Not sure the TCU is going to work for anyone unless someone with OEM BT and android can confirm.

cakM3
01-03-2014, 09:13 PM
Sean, you don't necessarily need a ULF to go with the OE Nav unless you desire voice commands for navigation, which you pointed out as not too useful.

Both my cars are equipped with OE Nav and the ZHP is equipped with SNA77's 6th gen ULF module and my ///M has been updated with the 13th gen TCU module.

To be honest... if I had to choose between the two, ULF or TCU, I'd go for the TCU module because it's much more current and depending on the generation you have, can support more Bluetooth equipped phones.

The TCU modules are used to provide the BMW Assist functionality as well as provide Bluetooth capability for pairing/communications using a hand set/cell phone.

ULF and TCU modules can be used, most get the TCU modules because they typically cost about half as much as the ULF modules new with the trade off of not having navigation voice command (not missing much in my opinion). I say this since I have both between two cars :)

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Hermes
01-03-2014, 09:58 PM
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7385/11739904196_ca841f526e_b.jpg

I didn't realize this was part of my Bluetooth when I swapped for non-armrest console... took me a day to realize it and put it back in :facepalm

Anyways, great price and somebody should pick it up quick!

kakashi169
01-04-2014, 07:47 AM
temptingggg...do all cars come pre wired for bluetooth?

cakM3
01-04-2014, 08:06 AM
...do all cars come pre wired for bluetooth?


Daniel, easy way to tell is to look at your boot lid edge and there will be several round tabs at the edge of the interior trunk trim and there should be one label that says prewired for bluetooth. I can say after having three BMWs (all of them E46) they all were pre-wired for BMW bluetooth. :thumbsup

Open your boot lid and look at the trim piece here…

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/ScreenShot2014-01-04at110929AM_zps71064ff9.png

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/ScreenShot2014-01-04at110908AM_zps6c9c1cbb.png

If you see a plug that has a telephone handset icon (2nd from the left pictured right above) on it then your BMW is pre-wired buddy :thumbsup

kakashi169
01-04-2014, 09:41 AM
Daniel, easy way to tell is to look at your boot lid edge and there will be several round tabs at the edge of the interior trunk trim and there should be one label that says prewired for bluetooth. I can say after having three BMWs (all of them E46) they all were pre-wired for BMW bluetooth. :thumbsup

Open your boot lid and look at the trim piece here…

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/ScreenShot2014-01-04at110929AM_zps71064ff9.png

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/ScreenShot2014-01-04at110908AM_zps6c9c1cbb.png

If you see a plug that has a telephone handset icon (2nd from the left pictured right above) on it then your BMW is pre-wired buddy :thumbsup

Ah, yeah. I heard about this icon legend on the boot lid. Unfortunately, I do not have it. Does that mean I need extra wiring?

johnrando
01-04-2014, 10:17 AM
BTW, my car didn't have the icon stickers but it was wired for it. Someone had removed them.

Pip
01-04-2014, 01:48 PM
I would check in the trunk for the BT connection and/or under the center console in the rear for the wiring. That should tell you enough to understand if you have the wiring.

Hermes
01-04-2014, 04:13 PM
Ah, yeah. I heard about this icon legend on the boot lid. Unfortunately, I do not have it. Does that mean I need extra wiring?


BTW, my car didn't have the icon stickers but it was wired for it. Someone had removed them.

Late cars didn't get the stickers. IIRC all ZHP's are prewired for BT, Homelink, Alarm, and Nav

johnrando
01-05-2014, 05:59 PM
Ah, cool.

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E_Rak
01-06-2014, 01:39 PM
Can you play music with the system or is it calls only?

Lanister
01-06-2014, 01:47 PM
Calls only.

E_Rak
01-06-2014, 05:53 PM
seems to be a recurring theme with bmw/mini bluetooth... meanwhile an $18k Subaru can handle it no problem!

Hermes
01-07-2014, 12:22 AM
You have to remember some of our cars are 10 years old, BT streaming was not around back then. Hell, not everybody had a BT equipped phone back then to begin with

Avetiso
01-07-2014, 12:42 AM
You have to remember some of our cars are 10 years old, BT streaming was not around back then. Hell, not everybody had a BT equipped phone back then to begin with
My sister's 2008 E90 with upgraded stereo (Logic 7) has BT, no music. I wonder if the iDrive cars have it?

Hermes
01-07-2014, 12:54 AM
I'm not sure why newer cars don't have it, just stating why ours don't

derbo
01-07-2014, 01:34 AM
I believe 2011+ BMW have A2DP protocol available for BT streaming. BT 1.0 did not offer stereo and does not have the bandwidth to support stereo streaming.

I do not know if a non-nav 2011+ has A2DP streaming though.

Lanister
01-07-2014, 11:14 AM
Oh ya, thanks Derek. A2DP rings the bell now, as music streaming needs ample bandwidth to maintain quality. Word on the street, although the sound quality is still not quite as good as with a wired connection, the A2DP does a respectable job for daily use.

Pip
01-08-2014, 05:19 PM
Bump for those android owners and someone looking to add a A2DP adaptor to their phone or aux connection to allow BT streaming.

Avetiso
01-08-2014, 06:05 PM
Bump for those android owners and someone looking to add a A2DP adaptor to their phone or aux connection to allow BT streaming.
OT, but I'm loving the sig. :thumbsup

Pip
01-09-2014, 09:55 PM
OT, but I'm loving the sig. :thumbsup

On topic enough for me :thumbsup. Thanks.

If anyone is interested throw me an offer. What's the worst that could happen?

derbo
01-09-2014, 09:56 PM
have you tried E46F? there was a fellow looking for BT if I recall.

Pip
01-13-2014, 04:15 PM
Bump. Open to offers.

Pip
01-17-2014, 04:40 PM
Ok. After a couple conversations I basically thought I had a shit unit that couldn't be used by most phones. This is the TCU unit that has BMW assist and BT incorporated into one unit. I should have tested it before to know everything before deciding to sell. My bad.

News Update:
This works with iPhone 5 (iOS 7) and Android. I tested in Dario's car and we had it installed test and uninstalled/cleaned up in 35-40 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7yOI45ok2E

Gary has first priority on this offer - $200 shipped for everything that will make your car BT functional (works with NAV, works with voice control, faster phone book updates etc. -- This won't do music streaming out of the box, but if you're ok with subpar streaming quality you can do the A2DP thing). If it does not drive interest at this price point with personal verification that iPhone 5 (iOS7) and Android phones work then I stand by my offer earlier today Gary.

I have done multiple transactions with Dario, Dane, Charlie, Devlin, John Rando, etc. who can vouch for me.

cakM3
01-17-2014, 08:52 PM
... I have done multiple transactions with Dario, Dane, Charlie, Devlin, John Rando, etc. who can vouch for me.

+1

I can vouch for Sean :thumbsup


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Lanister
01-17-2014, 09:15 PM
I can also vouch for Sean. Top bloke.

Pip
01-22-2014, 05:42 PM
SOLD.

johnrando
01-22-2014, 05:42 PM
Congrats

cakM3
01-22-2014, 05:42 PM
Congrats Sean!
:like

Pip
01-22-2014, 05:54 PM
Thanks guys! I just posted in the paying it forward thread as well for the remaining pieces. I've sold the TCU and now have all the components other than the TCU.