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av98
12-06-2013, 10:39 PM
Hi all,

Planning on selling my 05 SGM ZHP 5-spd AT in Jan 2014. Trying to figure out what to ask for as a fair price.

Here are the specs & details:

Clean title
2 owner- Northern California car
Full maintenance records since new; meticulously maintained since I bought it with 59K miles 5 years ago.
Koni yellows all around
Hotchkis sways front & rear
Porterfield R4S brake pads + Zimmerman rotors all around
Michelin PSS fronts & PS2 rears (will need to replace rears)
M3 front strut bar
154K miles

Notable Maintenance:
AT trans service done twice @ 60K then at 120K again
Cooling system done twice @ 60K then at 120K again
Inspection I @ 90K, 150K
Inspection II @ 60K, 120K
Spark plugs and fuel filter @ 60K, 120K
Brake rotors and pads @ 90K, 140K
Double VANOS rings and bushings rebuilt @ 110K by Rennwerks
O2 Sensors pre-cat @ 100K
Ignition Coils @ 150K
Alignment done by TC Designs in Milpitas beside Bavarians Motorsports

All service done at Bavarian Motorsports, Edge Motorworks or Rennwerks in the SF Bay Area or by myself.

Thanks in advance!

Some Pics:

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/14136936@N02/7172020634/

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/14136936@N02/7662518070/

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/14136936@N02/7662520606/

Hermes
12-06-2013, 10:44 PM
First of all, I want to see a pic of your shift knob... If it's a real SMG (SSG2) you have an extremely rare car

Edit: forget what I said, you meant Sparkling Graphite Metallic.

Need more details regarding options (NAV, Alcantara or leather + color, heated seats, etc)

Lanister
12-06-2013, 10:59 PM
Beautiful ride man. The high mileage, AT transmission and the fact that it's lowered are the biggest negatives. Have a look at Pip's ride with only 88k miles and sublime maintenance history. He's asking 14.5 and barely any interest. So draw your conclusions from there.

Also, I'd highly suggest picking up a pair of new headlight lenses, as it would greatly help with the visual appeal of the car, which could help with the sale.

BavarianZHP
12-06-2013, 11:10 PM
Edit: forget what I said, you meant Sparkling Graphite Metallic.


I think OP meant Silver Grey Metallic (unless it's an individual car). Sedans were never made in Sparkling Graphite Metallic - that was only a coupe option.

A transmission swap would have to be done to have a ZHP with a SMGII tranny.

Based on miles alone, I would say around $8k for the car.

Hermes
12-06-2013, 11:38 PM
I think OP meant Silver Grey Metallic (unless it's an individual car). Sedans were never made in Sparkling Graphite Metallic - that was only a coupe option.

I did not know that

Hornung418
12-07-2013, 06:22 AM
Silbergrau? That's just SG.

Sparkljng Graphite Metallic is SGM. As mentioned, a coupe only color option :)

GLWS.

Sent from my GS3.

av98
12-07-2013, 10:46 AM
Thanks for the feedback.

Yes it is Silver Gray Metallic.

Plus my car is not lowered, rides on stock ZHP springs which is already 10mm lower. Since the shocks are adjustable it can do DD or auto-x/track duty with adjustments.

$14.5K seems a little high especially with 88K and no upgrades to the shocks or suspension.

Pip
12-07-2013, 10:55 AM
Thanks for the feedback.

Yes it is Silver Gray Metallic.

Plus my car is not lowered, rides on stock ZHP springs which is already 10mm lower. Since the shocks are adjustable it can do DD or auto-x/track duty with adjustments.

$14.5K seems a little high especially with 88K and no upgrades to the shocks or suspension.

Yea 14.5k is high. I started asking at 14.5k that included tse3 exhaust, afe intake, eurocharged tune, new suspension, lots of PM, and classy exterior mods. None of those are interesting mods to people buying ZHPs or cars in general. I'm taking the car back to stock and going to try and get $12k out of it (might have trouble doing that) with 88k miles. Most zhp enthusiasts aren't going to be interested in AT so you'll meet those looking at KBB values for standard 3 series and that is a fairly high mileage AT that is maintained, but there is a stigma about AT.

I'd say you could expect to get in the $8k, unless you found an enthusiast wanting an AT.

av98
12-07-2013, 10:55 PM
Forgot to mention that the car has the factory Nav, Silver cube trim, Alcantra steering wheel, Alcantra shift & hand brake, Black interior with full leather seats and trims.

Lanister
12-08-2013, 12:18 AM
What's the condition of the steering wheel? If it's going, then it will likely be a negative factor. When I was shopping around for a zhp, I came across a few with semi-worn steering wheels and, being a total newb, I thought it was awful.

ELCID86
12-08-2013, 05:02 AM
^ most of the wheels will clean up pretty nicely with the DIY. Worth a shot if it's not too far gone (ripped, etc.)

cakM3
12-08-2013, 07:40 AM
If the alcantara steering wheel is the steering wheel mounted and it's all matted down and cruddy looking, this can be mostly sorted out using Mr Clean Magic Eraser (original) to get it cleaned up and looking nice again :thumbsup I did this for a friend's competition package ///M a few weeks ago and he's extremely pleased with his "refreshed" alcantara steering wheel :)

av98
12-08-2013, 07:44 AM
It's worn pretty bad but will replace with a leather ZHP OEM that was the replacement in the later years and include both.

May also acquire a 2nd set of ZHP rims so the next owner can run a square setup.

In the process of negotiating a deal now.

ELCID86
12-08-2013, 10:18 AM
Hope it goes through. Keep us posted


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