BMW 330 ZHP w/ SMG?

[MasterC17]

Does it exist? I've never seen one. I've seen a couple 330/325's with it. It seems they only offered it in 2004 & 2005. That would be one rare (and cool) combo!

[Washburn]

AFAIK, it never existed.

[Marcus-SanDiego]

Start at post 31:

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?406-Greetings-from-Colorado/page4

[MasterC17]

[QUOTE=Marcus-SanDiego;20545]Start at post 31:

http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/showthread.php?406-Greetings-from-Colorado/page4

By unicorn I assume it doesn't exist? :rofl It does seem they made them in 2004 but not 2005. I feel like someone somewhere must have one!

[Marcus-SanDiego]

You never know. Someone may have put one on. But, as far as I know, if was impossible to order from the factory.

[L0veZHP]

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11648

check it out

[L0veZHP]

they go for $480 the kit and with the whole steering wheel "M" $980

its a retro fit, you need the SMG 2 steering wheel...

[gr330zhp]

I am looking at my 2005 E46 brochure. At the SMG option it says "not available in 330i with Performance Package and 325i/325xi/330xi"

[Gheybe]

they go for $480 the kit and with the whole steering wheel "M" $980

its a retro fit, you need the SMG 2 steering wheel...

He meant from factory I think.

As the post above me states, it was never offered in the ZHP.

But for reference, I've driven a 330 with SMG, and it feels worse than in the M3 somehow.

[MasterC17]

they go for $480 the kit and with the whole steering wheel "M" $980

its a retro fit, you need the SMG 2 steering wheel...

I think you misunderstood me, I'm not looking for a retro-fit for a Steptronic but the SMG (SSG) for the Non-M cars on a ZHP.


I am looking at my 2005 E46 brochure. At the SMG option it says "not available in 330i with Performance Package and 325i/325xi/330xi"

:cheers Thank you that is what I was looking for. I can understand why the Xi's weren't offered it, but it's odd they didn't offer it for the ZHP's.

Also, they did offer it for the 325 in 2004: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=801761.


But for reference, I've driven a 330 with SMG, and it feels worse than in the M3 somehow.

That's probably because the Non-M SMG is different than the M SMG. The Non-M is actually SSG which is a less complex and less beefy system as used in the M's. Shifting is slower and isn't as precise. Still, it will shift quicker than any human being can.

[pyreguy]

Until it breaks cause it can't handle power...


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[Gheybe]

That's probably because the Non-M SMG is different than the M SMG. The Non-M is actually SSG which is a less complex and less beefy system as used in the M's. Shifting is slower and isn't as precise. Still, it will shift quicker than any human being can.

I sorta want to prove you wrong with a video.

[MrMaico]

I am looking at my 2005 E46 brochure. At the SMG option it says "not available in 330i with Performance Package and 325i/325xi/330xi"

Does your 05 brochure have much info and pics for the ZHP? I picked up an 04 coupe edition a couple months ago and it doesn't have anything on the ZHP. Might have to buy an 05 brochure now. When I look at 05 brochures on Ebay they show the same cover photo as my 04 version.

Looks just like this one....

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574947307&toolid=10001&campid=5336776893&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FBMW-3-SERIES-COUPE-PRESTIGE-SALES-BROCHURE-2005-%2F370482281757%3Fpt%3DLH_DefaultDomain_0%26hash%3 Ditem564276fd1d

[danewilson77]

I sorta want to prove you wrong with a video.

LOL at sig.

[az3579]

I sorta want to prove you wrong with a video.

I'd like to do the same. I've seen the video of an SMG shift and it's actually pretty slow when you take into account the fact that it's not a human controlling how quickly the shifts are.
I know someone who can powershift the hell out of any car...


(and subsequently ruining the synchros, but I digress :biggrin)

[MasterC17]

I sorta want to prove you wrong with a video.

Ok, how about without beating the car? :rofl I can't find the thread but I think SSG shifts in 1/10 of a second and SMG is about .6/10's of a second.

[gr330zhp]

Does your 05 brochure have much info and pics for the ZHP? I picked up an 04 coupe edition a couple months ago and it doesn't have anything on the ZHP. Might have to buy an 05 brochure now. When I look at 05 brochures on Ebay they show the same cover photo as my 04 version.

Looks just like this one....

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574947307&toolid=10001&campid=5336776893&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2FBMW-3-SERIES-COUPE-PRESTIGE-SALES-BROCHURE-2005-%2F370482281757%3Fpt%3DLH_DefaultDomain_0%26hash%3 Ditem564276fd1d

Yep it has a whole section on the Performance Package (ZHP)! In the section is an Imola ZHP with Alcantara interior, much like mine :) It's a 4-5 page section on the ZHP if I remember right. I usually put it on my dash at shows and stuff. It is different from the one in your link though...

[johnrando]

I like the idea of a brochure from your car year. I have an '06 vert. Given that you seem to know the brochures, it sounds like they have ZHP info, do they have vert info too?

[gr330zhp]

I am pretty sure the Cabrio has its own manual, mine doesn't have anything on it.

It's odd though, because I also have E46 M3 as well as E63/E64 M6 brochures and the Coupe and Cabriolet are in the same manuals. The Series models may be separated :dunno

[johnrando]

You're right, just checked out a PDF online. Thanks for the info! John

[gr330zhp]

No problem, glad I could help :)

[tripod06]

if anyone ever decides to do this, please post pictures. i have wondered this for some time now.

[RITmusic2k]

Still, it will shift quicker than any human being can. I bet it can't shift from 6-2 faster than me ;)

[tripod06]

^^ lol

[az3579]

I bet it can't shift from 6-2 faster than me ;)

I seriously doubt it... think of all the times you have to pull that darned "-" paddle. With an H-box, you can just go from six to two directly and rev-match. Done. :)

[ieai]

Hey guys, I was reading through this thread after finding these up for sale. Do you think they are actually SMG ZHPs(ZAMs)?

It seems suspect if there are 3 up at once and considering the prices not for very much either (the one that claims "very rare" I might actually believe but still!).

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-of-toronto/2004-bmw-330i-zhp/1237845150?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-of-toronto/2004-bmw-3-series-330i-zhp-sedan/1225824453?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/mississauga-peel-region/bmw-330i-zhp-smg-very-rare/1209150924?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

[slater]

those are all M Sports. even though they are being advertised as a 'ZHP.' they got the S338 M Sport package, but no S767 M Performance package.

[BMWCurves]

The middle link has silver exterior trim as opposed to the black trim of our cars which is indicative it's not a ZHP as well.