Hornung's ZHP Adventure

[zhpnsnv]

Lol, Marc, I thought you would have driven at least one SMG BMW! When I test the one I'm looking at I will report back.

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They did put it on the CSL, so how bad could it be?

[NoVAphotog]

You got it figured out. I like your thinking with your zhp

+1

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[az3579]

This was in response to Marc, who asked what it felt like.

I haven't driven an SMG car, but I have been a passenger. I can offer the following observations:

When just cruising around town with the shift ferocity set low, it's not bad from a feel perspective. I do not, however, like how it slips the clutch at pretty much every shift. This would concern me from a clutch wear perspective; I would imagine you wouldn't get too many miles out of a clutch. I don't know how it would compare to a manual, but since I rev-match every single shift to the best of my ability, I can probably still drag my clutch use out longer than the 200k it currently has on its original clutch. I'd research this if you're concerned about clutch wear and see what the facts are for the SMG tranny.

When the car is being nailed, it feels as though someone is take a hammer the size of a Ford Excursion to the back of the car every time it shifts (if the shift mode is at the strongest). It is extremely uncomfortable. This feeling is achieved if the foot is kept planted on the floor when shifting. I'm not sure if the problem is alleviated in this shift mode if you let off the gas when you shift, but I do know that letting off the gas as you would in a manual to shift when you're just putting around town greatly improves the shift feel. It still feels clunky if you don't lift your foot, so just drive it as you would a manual around town and you'll be fine. All out though, all bets are off... it may shift fast but I can't imagine all that hard shifting is going to be very good on diff bushings and other driveline components...



Personally, I feel the ferocious shifting nature of the the SMG tranny suits Justin because he likes to have fun. It's a raw experience and can be fun when you don't have to worry about heel-and-toe downshifting when coming in hot from a straight on the track...

[Avetiso]

Dang man! If you want a SMG, I won't stop you, I just prefer 6MT over everything else. I strongly feel I get the best driving "experience" with driving MT. But if you want the SMG, that's great, I just hope you don't regret not waiting for a 6MT car if that's what you really want.
I don't mind if that's your preference. It's mine, too. I just don't bash SMG like everyone else seems to do because it doesn't deserve it. That's all.

[Avetiso]

Being a true man who drives manual, I would never consider SMG. Firstly, I don't need a computer to do things for me. I regularly check e-mail with my own brain by tapping into the matrix like Neo himself. Secondly, I want to have total, pure control of the car, though park assist would be epic. Thirdly, complicated parts mean complicated fixes; I'd rather worry myself with simple fixes like welding the subframe, reconfiguring the cooling system, and adjusting valves with my eyes closed every 7 miles. Fourthly, all of my friends who use the internet say SMG is terrible, and I believe everything my friends say they read on the internet.

In sum, no SMG for me. :)

Joking aside -- I've never driven it. How's the experience?
It was awkward at first. You can't tell when clutch is going to engage on a downshift so I found my head bobbing back and forth a bit, but I've read up a bit and people seem to say that can be avoided by being off the gas when you downshift. Other than that, it was nice. Full WOT shifts were just beautiful. Knock you right back in your seat.

[Hornung418]

http://www.billsilk.com/Cars/1987-Porsche-944-Turbo/43764222_fPmsz3#!i=3473121488&k=4P4bwtX&lb=1&s=L

Pics of the '87 951. Needs paint, badly. No rust however. Galvanized steel FTW!

[Johnmadd]

http://www.billsilk.com/Cars/1987-Porsche-944-Turbo/43764222_fPmsz3#!i=3473121488&k=4P4bwtX&lb=1&s=L

Pics of the '87 951. Needs paint, badly. No rust however. Galvanized steel FTW!

I always liked that body style, even when I was a kid.

[cakM3]

http://www.billsilk.com/Cars/1987-Porsche-944-Turbo/43764222_fPmsz3#!i=3473121488&k=4P4bwtX&lb=1&s=L

Pics of the '87 951. Needs paint, badly. No rust however. Galvanized steel FTW!

Nice car for sure but I've always hated those phone dial wheels....such a PITA to clean....

[Hornung418]

But they have the optional ABS! first year it was available.

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[Johnmadd]

But they have the optional ABS! first year it was available.

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Haha, does it come with the emblem so people know you got it?!?

[Hornung418]

No, but it comes with stupid high offsets so I can't run Fuchs...but there are similar options out there.

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[Johnmadd]

No, but it comes with stupid high offsets so I can't run Fuchs...but there are similar options out there.

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Fuchs?

[Hornung418]

The iconic Porsche 911 wheel.

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[Johnmadd]

Reps available?

[Hornung418]

Yeah, but I would probably go with turbo twisties from the 996.

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[cakM3]

Yeah, but I would probably go with turbo twisties from the 996.

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Justin, if you could source a clean set then they will look great on a 951 :thumbsup

[Johnmadd]

You obviously know what you want... get a Porsche and rebuild the zhp and have a good time doing it. If the insurance company does you right you will come out ahead after this. #anxiouslyawaiting

[Hornung418]

You obviously know what you want... get a Porsche and rebuild the zhp and have a good time doing it. If the insurance company does you right you will come out ahead after this. #anxiouslyawaiting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqc0mm-7ukY&index=154&list=UUNF0UDDgHaq94i30wwQsRzw

Every 15,000 miles you have to tension the balance shaft belt...That's a shit load of work to just do that. I'm having reservations, but if insurance gives me a princely sum to take care of things, I will have a Full PPI and give it a belt service. Just to give me some time out from under the car.

[Johnmadd]

Every time I have "the professionals at the dealership" do something the always fuck something else up, its just a hassle. I will dive into just about everything and anything at this point to avoid anyone doing a bone headed thing unless it's me, if something goes wrong I can justify me being stupid but I hate the pursuit of making them fix their mistakes.

[Hornung418]

Every time I have "the professionals at the dealership" do something the always fuck something else up, its just a hassle. I will dive into just about everything and anything at this point to avoid anyone doing a bone headed thing unless it's me, if something goes wrong I can justify me being stupid but I hate the pursuit of making them fix their mistakes.
I have a really good Porsche shop in town. The dealer is 30 miles away.

[Johnmadd]

My e30 has a recommended timing belt interval of 60,000 miles and I've changed it once during my ownership and that is 750,000 worth of miles and it goes hard! Never even done a valve adjustment to it . Some information is just to cover asses.

[Hornung418]

Damn John...just imaging how much better it would run if you adjust the valves!

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[johnrando]

FWIW Justin, I've always liked the 944, especially the turbo. Best handling sports car for the money by far. And the turbo really gave it the oomph it needed.

[cakM3]

FWIW Justin, I've always liked the 944, especially the turbo. Best handling sports car for the money by far. And the turbo really gave it the oomph it needed.

+1


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[Avetiso]

Got some great seat time in an SMG today. Any questions?

[Hornung418]

Got some great seat time in an SMG today. Any questions?

Tell me everything. :)

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[Avetiso]

Tell me everything. :)

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Okay.

So, engaging first feels exactly like a manual, except that *you* don't feel it through your leg. The rest of the car feels exactly like a manual would engage. Depending on how much throttle you give it, engagement time and severity will change. Very comfortable, though. People say engaging on SMG is jerky, and I found that completely untrue. It engages consistently and correctly every time. Also, you CAN slip the clutch slightly to make smaller maneuvers without engaging fully. I don't why people say you can't. The clutch will only lock if you give it enough throttle and enough time. Let off the throttle before you fully engage, and the clutch will re-open, just like a manual would had you slightly engage the clutch. It may be more inconvenient because you control it with an electronic throttle pedal instead of a hydraulic clutch pedal, but the same level of control can be exercised through both transmission types.

Typical of BMW, the 1-2 shift sucks. On the throttle, off the throttle, it simply feels like it takes too long for RPM to drop between gears. I felt the same way about both of my manual ZHP's, as well. Slightly alleviated by wringing out first gear a bit, which puts a smile on your face, but it will be annoying when the car is cold.

The rest of the shifts are awesome. It IS jerky if you don't let off the throttle, but once you get the hang of letting off the throttle between shifts, it's smoother than a manual (unless getting it perfect every single damn time is second nature for you). No joke. Let off the gas, shift, and ease back into it and you'll hardly feel anything. I caught myself looking at the cluster a few times because I wasn't sure if the car had even shifted, that's how smooth it was.

Highway driving was nothing special. Downshifting and upshifting were far easier and more comfortable on the SMG than they were on my manual ZHP.

I don't even remember what shift setting I was on, honestly.

Overall, I really enjoyed the experience. I don't feel like it detracts from the driving experience at all, on the contrary, not having to shift gave me a bit of a different outlook on driving. I could get into the powerband much faster than I could with a manual. And to get it into neutral, I didn't have to push a pedal in. Just a flick of the wrist to N. Wanna get back into gear? Flick it back right. It'll choose the right gear for you and you keep going, even if your speed and incline have changed.

That still leaves the costly repairs if it does decide to fail, but I found the driving characteristics of SMG to be very enjoyable both times I've driven them.

[Hornung418]

Thanks, Dario. I will report back in September when I get things figured out with test driving.

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[Hornung418]

The Whale...gotta land this one. Hope it's not a fake. Emailed the dealer for more pics and maintenance info, just waiting for a reply.

http://m.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=361533690&numRecords=15&firstRecord=16&zip=21014&searchType=both

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[Johnmadd]

The Whale...gotta land this one. Hope it's not a fake. Emailed the dealer for more pics and maintenance info, just waiting for a reply.

http://m.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=361533690&numRecords=15&firstRecord=16&zip=21014&searchType=both

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Oh yeah!

[Rovert]

I have been driving my SMG car for 4 months and I can say it's been like learning how to drive a new transmission all over again. Coming from my 6MT ZHP for a decade has helped as I understand the sounds and what the computer is doing as the SMG transmission shifts. As Dario said it gets bashed only because forums are usually about the negativity of something or needing help because something broke. You get a limited amount of "I love my ZHP" threads because they're mostly about turning something chaotic into something of order.

A lot of people who bang on SMG are people who might have only drove it around the block, not driven it enough to understand how to operate it smoothly just like any manual transmission, or people who haven't driven it and just jump on the bandwagon to feel accepted with another "cool" forum member.

I have to say that at first I missed my 3 pedal action. My left leg was looking at me with a WTF face. It dove into the abyss a few times trying to hit the clutch pedal. As Dario has pointed out accuracy about how SMG operates, I have to second what he says. Once you figure it out, you may come of liking to it. The big learning curve is figuring out when the computer is disengaging the clutch and engaging it since that's the only loss of control over 3 pedals. After 4 months I still don't have it perfect but I never shifted perfect in a manual after 4 months either.

Two months ago I had the opportunity to program my SMG computer to Euro CSL software as well as tune the ECU to react more aggressively with the CSL software. This made making a "soft" North American SMG software tolerable to totally enjoying a now grown up stick shift "computer partner" driver.

So with the SMG computer tune, all upshifts are quicker under the same setting at the NA tune, They are more accurate and clutch engagements are faster and more accurate. If you want 1st to 2nd can bang out nicely with limited delay and no chassis disruption at any RPM. The urgency of the shift depends on how much you have the throttle pressed. You don't need to release the throttle for the shift to happen. Releasing the throttle instructs the computer to shift the slowest relative to your shift speed setting. During that shift, I often hit the throttle too early as the clutch is engaging, riding the clutch for a split second so I will get used to the delay as I always leave the mode in S3. If I ease off the throttle 30% as I upshift, the shift is fast, accurate, and smooth. Going into WOT will bang out the shift fast and hard at whatever RPM you choose to shift at, 2500 or 7000, it'll do it good without delay. This tune also allows an all out "go bananas/rip apart your reinforced subframe" launch control mode maxing out at 4,000RPM vs approx 1,800RPM in NA mode. Good thing you can launch at whatever RPM you'd like but if you floor it, the RPMs will stop at 4,000 until you release holding the shift knob forward. The NA launch control seemed perfectly capable when I tried it so I don't know when a 4,000RPM launch is even optimal other than shaving 0.01 seconds off your quarter mile drag which you won't get to because you twisted your driveshaft off. LOL.

With the ECU tuned for the CSL SMG software, downshifts are rev-matched near perfectly throughout the rev-band, whether you're downshifting from 3,000RPM to 5,000RPM, gear skipping from 2,000RPM to 6,500RPM, or just lazy shifts from 1,500RPM to 2,500RPM. Super fast/aggressive rev-match blips happen when you're above the 3,000RPM range. That's equivalent to you WOT to blip. The North American program would just release/ride the clutch smoothly without blipping when off throttle. You have to be on throttle for it to blip which was then, only good for acceleration. The CSL ECU tune allows for rev-matched clutch engagements no matter what you're doing with the throttle just as you can do in a manual.

After driving manual for 10 years, I still miss it. Having this tune on SMG software makes me not need to swap the transmission. But when it does cause a $500 or more bill, I will put that towards swapping to a 6MT as there is no replacement to feeling the car shift in such non-timed casual environments as public roads. Racing on a track I could totally appreciate SMG since one bad shift could unbalance a car already at it's traction limit sending you into a very uncontrollable situation.

If you want to know more about M Track mode......let that be another novel. LOL.

[Hornung418]

Good stuff, Trevor. Thanks for taking the time to educate us on the SMG!

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[terraphantm]

Well I was in pain yesterday, and woke up today with immense back pain. Called out of work and I'm desperately trying to get a hold of my chiropractor for an emergency adjustment. Still nothing from insurance.

If this is happening frequently, you might want to see a physician and get an MRI.

[Hornung418]

If this is happening frequently, you might want to see a physician and get an MRI.

It's a birth defect. It has happened before. My L5 and L4 vertebrae have a poorly developed disk. Therapy helps. Waiting to see if there is a surgery available.

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[Rovert]

When you find an ///M just have someone drive and you sit in the passenger seat fully reclined. Next, put your hands up above your head and have the driver unleash the power the the S54 which will give you great traction and relief for the back!!!

:roundel

[Hornung418]

Lol!

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[Rovert]

It's true! I was fooling around with the G meter in my car. Threshold brake deceleration versus WOT in 1st is close to the same reciprocal of G's. Braking just a tad more force since I can stop from 60mph in just over 110ft. I highly doubt the car can accelerate that quick!

[Hornung418]

It's true! I was fooling around with the G meter in my car. Threshold brake deceleration versus WOT in 1st is close to the same reciprocal of G's. Braking just a tad more force since I can stop from 60mph in just over 110ft. I highly doubt the car can accelerate that quick!

Sounds like a trip to the Great White North to visit with Dr. Trevor and his 180k mph traction table!

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[Avetiso]

SMG would be better for this, too. :) CSL software, launch controlled drop at 4000rpm. Tear your subframe, fix your back!

[Imola.ZHP]

I have been driving my SMG car for 4 months and I can say it's been like learning how to drive a new transmission all over again. Coming from my 6MT ZHP for a decade has helped as I understand the sounds and what the computer is doing as the SMG transmission shifts. As Dario said it gets bashed only because forums are usually about the negativity of something or needing help because something broke. You get a limited amount of "I love my ZHP" threads because they're mostly about turning something chaotic into something of order.

A lot of people who bang on SMG are people who might have only drove it around the block, not driven it enough to understand how to operate it smoothly just like any manual transmission, or people who haven't driven it and just jump on the bandwagon to feel accepted with another "cool" forum member.

I have to say that at first I missed my 3 pedal action. My left leg was looking at me with a WTF face. It dove into the abyss a few times trying to hit the clutch pedal. As Dario has pointed out accuracy about how SMG operates, I have to second what he says. Once you figure it out, you may come of liking to it. The big learning curve is figuring out when the computer is disengaging the clutch and engaging it since that's the only loss of control over 3 pedals. After 4 months I still don't have it perfect but I never shifted perfect in a manual after 4 months either.

Two months ago I had the opportunity to program my SMG computer to Euro CSL software as well as tune the ECU to react more aggressively with the CSL software. This made making a "soft" North American SMG software tolerable to totally enjoying a now grown up stick shift "computer partner" driver.

So with the SMG computer tune, all upshifts are quicker under the same setting at the NA tune, They are more accurate and clutch engagements are faster and more accurate. If you want 1st to 2nd can bang out nicely with limited delay and no chassis disruption at any RPM. The urgency of the shift depends on how much you have the throttle pressed. You don't need to release the throttle for the shift to happen. Releasing the throttle instructs the computer to shift the slowest relative to your shift speed setting. During that shift, I often hit the throttle too early as the clutch is engaging, riding the clutch for a split second so I will get used to the delay as I always leave the mode in S3. If I ease off the throttle 30% as I upshift, the shift is fast, accurate, and smooth. Going into WOT will bang out the shift fast and hard at whatever RPM you choose to shift at, 2500 or 7000, it'll do it good without delay. This tune also allows an all out "go bananas/rip apart your reinforced subframe" launch control mode maxing out at 4,000RPM vs approx 1,800RPM in NA mode. Good thing you can launch at whatever RPM you'd like but if you floor it, the RPMs will stop at 4,000 until you release holding the shift knob forward. The NA launch control seemed perfectly capable when I tried it so I don't know when a 4,000RPM launch is even optimal other than shaving 0.01 seconds off your quarter mile drag which you won't get to because you twisted your driveshaft off. LOL.

With the ECU tuned for the CSL SMG software, downshifts are rev-matched near perfectly throughout the rev-band, whether you're downshifting from 3,000RPM to 5,000RPM, gear skipping from 2,000RPM to 6,500RPM, or just lazy shifts from 1,500RPM to 2,500RPM. Super fast/aggressive rev-match blips happen when you're above the 3,000RPM range. That's equivalent to you WOT to blip. The North American program would just release/ride the clutch smoothly without blipping when off throttle. You have to be on throttle for it to blip which was then, only good for acceleration. The CSL ECU tune allows for rev-matched clutch engagements no matter what you're doing with the throttle just as you can do in a manual.

After driving manual for 10 years, I still miss it. Having this tune on SMG software makes me not need to swap the transmission. But when it does cause a $500 or more bill, I will put that towards swapping to a 6MT as there is no replacement to feeling the car shift in such non-timed casual environments as public roads. Racing on a track I could totally appreciate SMG since one bad shift could unbalance a car already at it's traction limit sending you into a very uncontrollable situation.

If you want to know more about M Track mode......let that be another novel. LOL.

I enjoyed reading that, thanks for sharing.

[Rovert]

Sounds like a trip to the Great White North to visit with Dr. Trevor and his 180k mph traction table!


Get your own ///M! Hurry up now! LOL

And it's still green here.... :P

[Hornung418]

Get your own ///M! Hurry up now! LOL

And it's still green here.... :P

Lol in BC you have a nice summer.

In Mexico for the week. Still haven't had any contact through email from State Farm. When I do I will most likely have to fight for a little bit to get the dollar amount that the car is worth. Then I will move on the Porsche 951 or a decent e46 M3.

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[Imola.ZHP]

Lol in BC you have a nice summer.

In Mexico for the week. Still haven't had any contact through email from State Farm. When I do I will most likely have to fight for a little bit to get the dollar amount that the car is worth. Then I will move on the Porsche 951 or a decent e46 M3.

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I hope we don't loose you to Porshe, although it could be worse, at least your not going to Camaro/Mustang/Challenger.

[Avetiso]

I hope we don't loose you to Porshe, although it could be worse, at least your not going to Camaro/Mustang/Challenger.
What's wrong with a mustang?!

[Imola.ZHP]

What's wrong with a mustang?!

Where does one start?

Ha! To each their own, my first car was actually an '82 Camaro. What a POS!

[Avetiso]

Where does one start?
Haha. I like them. I like Ford in general, though.

[Hornung418]

What's wrong with a mustang?!
They see me trollin'...


I hope we don't loose you to Porshe, although it could be worse, at least your not going to Camaro/Mustang/Challenger.

Believe it or not, Porsche was my first love. Wanted an early 930 turbo before the prices went through the roof. And I'm glad I didn't get one, because I would probably have died long ago.

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[derbo]

I want to be lost to porsche... :drool

[328ioc]

Although this is Justin's ZHP thread thanks to the guys for all the legit SMG info.

There are so many SMG haters on M3 forums its hard to get any real info.

Another reason we have a great forum.

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[328ioc]

They see me trollin'...



Believe it or not, Porsche was my first love. Wanted an early 930 turbo before the prices went through the roof. And I'm glad I didn't get one, because I would probably have died long ago.

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993 turbos seem to be exploding now too. My buddy has a low milage one and after a year of ownership he can probably double his money.

Which is his issue....keep it or sell and buy a new cayman GTS and have some money left over.

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[Hornung418]

993 turbos seem to be exploding now too. My buddy has a low milage one and after a year of ownership he can probably double his money.

Which is his issue....keep it or sell and buy a new cayman GTS and have some money left over.

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Lol must be nice to have the coin for that!

The guy who made the MD flag stickers for the roundels owns a 993 turbo. He's 28...

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[slater]

993 turbos seem to be exploding now too. My buddy has a low milage one and after a year of ownership he can probably double his money.

Which is his issue....keep it or sell and buy a new cayman GTS and have some money left over.

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nuts. although, 993 values have been 'exploding' for quite some time now - really, ever since the 996's were released. if you can get over the styling (both interior and exterior), the 996 is a great value - just make sure it's a 2002+.

i regularly pine for a 964RS... oh, porsche. dang you.

peter

[328ioc]

Lol must be nice to have the coin for that!

The guy who made the MD flag stickers for the roundels owns a 993 turbo. He's 28...

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Funny enough no coin was involved.....he traded a 993 non turbo auto and a 930 slant nose for it.

The 993 base like 35k miles on it and I think the vue of the two cars he traded was like 60kish......

But damn.....28 and a turbo? Dude knows what's up.

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[Hornung418]

Practicing law gets you the fun things, I guess!

Thats a sweet deal, although I would have kept the 930 flachbau...was it factory built or an aftermarket conversion?

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[328ioc]

Practicing law gets you the fun things, I guess!

Thats a sweet deal, although I would have kept the 930 flachbau...was it factory built or an aftermarket conversion?

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Factory garage/show queen as far as I know.

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[Hornung418]

Factory garage/show queen as far as I know.

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That was probably worth $70k+!! Hope he's not having sellers remorse.

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[328ioc]

Not at all. Other than a gt3 rs the turbo is his dream car.

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[Hornung418]

Not at all. Other than a gt3 rs the turbo is his dream car.

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Gotcha. Good for him!

Still nothing from insurance. I want to call...but I don't want to eat into my minutes in Mexico.

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[328ioc]

Gotcha. Good for him!

Still nothing from insurance. I want to call...but I don't want to eat into my minutes in Mexico.

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That's weird. Who do you have for insurance again?

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[Hornung418]

State Farm. I was told that when the car was transferred to their storage, the adjuster didn't get notified. So his earliest available date to see the car was on Friday. Expected something today. But its still before noon EST. Waiting another hour. In the mean time I'm enjoying the rain and thunder in Cabo San Lucas...:(

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[328ioc]

State Farm. I was told that when the car was transferred to their storage, the adjuster didn't get notified. So his earliest available date to see the car was on Friday. Expected something today. But its still before noon EST. Waiting another hour. In the mean time I'm enjoying the rain and thunder in Cabo San Lucas...:(

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Tequila still tastes the same whether its raining or not. Lol

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[Hornung418]

Tequila still tastes the same whether its raining or not. Lol

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Haha that's funny!

I drank yesterday, but today I woke up with a pretty decent hangover :/

The muscle relaxer I'm taking doesn't prohibit fun drinking. Plus I'm with my mother and sister.

It really is beautiful here on the resort. I think I'm gonna go to the spa and get a massage. Maybe that will relieve a lot of the tension in my back.

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[Rovert]

LOL quit thinking about insurance and just enjoy Cabo!! When my car was totalled I was having fun in Montreal when I got the text from the body shop who estimated it.

"You're buying me lunch when you get back, the car is officially written off."

LOL. I screamed for joy in the TSA lineup at Montreal international report.

[Hornung418]

It's hard to fully enjoy when my back is killing me. And for that reason alone I want to know if my car is a write off. But I'm taking in the views we are going to a safe access beach this afternoon. Can't wait to swim in the Pacific.

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[az3579]

LOL quit thinking about insurance and just enjoy Cabo!! When my car was totalled I was having fun in Montreal when I got the text from the body shop who estimated it.

"You're buying me lunch when you get back, the car is officially written off."

LOL. I screamed for joy in the TSA lineup at Montreal international report.

:eyetwitch


:shifty

[Imola.ZHP]

:eyetwitch


:shifty

If my car is ever involved in an accident (knocks on wood) I would want it to be totaled too. I would be sad, but I wouldn't want a repaired vehicle.

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As for being lost to P-Cars, I've always told my better half that if I ever was to "outgrow" BMW, it would probably be to Porsche. Not sure that will ever happen, but I'm ok with that if it doesn't. I like SUV/SAV's too an P-SUV's instantly look dated when a new one comes out. The previous generation instantly looks like it is 20 years old although it might just be a year or two old. I don't understand it. Meanwhile used BMW SAV's just age gracefully IMO. Maybe I'm warped.

/OT

Hopefully you'll have some news tomorrow!

[Hornung418]

Marcus, if you and your partner are looking for an SUV/SAV, the Porsche Macan Turbo is fucking brilliant. It's the perfect size and it goes like the clappers!

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[Imola.ZHP]

Marcus, if you and your partner are looking for an SUV/SAV, the Porsche Macan Turbo is fucking brilliant. It's the perfect size and it goes like the clappers!

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But its SO ugly, and its brand new. I prefer the x3 M-sport, and dare I say the x4 even to it. But I really prefer a CPO e70, new isn't in the budget so neither the Macan or the x4 (or a new x3 M-sport) will happen. All of that said, the 2007 Honda CRV EXL Nav we have is paid for, 1-owner, just rolled 112,000 miles and has had absolutely no problems. It will be very difficult to justify trading it in. Although it isn't AWD it gets around great in the snow and ice too.

[Hornung418]

But its SO ugly, and its brand new. I prefer the x3 M-sport, and dare I say the x4 even to it. But I really prefer a CPO e70, new isn't in the budget so neither the Macan or the x4 (or a new x3 M-sport) will happen. All of that said, the 2007 Honda CRV EXL Nav we have is paid for, 1-owner, just rolled 112,000 miles and has had absolutely no problems. It will be very difficult to justify trading it in. Although it isn't AWD it gets around great in the snow and ice too.

Oh well there's no reason to move into something that is ultimately more complicated and more expensive. Keep the Honda. :)

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[Imola.ZHP]

Oh well there's no reason to move into something that is ultimately more complicated and more expensive. Keep the Honda. :)

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Its like we love it but we hate it for being so good, lol. If it were a POS it would be easy to dump off at a BMW dealer. Maybe if raises go well this year we can justify it.
______

Good luck today!

[Hornung418]

Car update: She's gone. Damage estimated at $7571.20. Car is valued at $8050.00.

The car will payout at $8143. If I want to buy it back, they will give me $6257 and the car.

I have the option to appeal the price, I just have to find three sources from 2004 within 200 miles of zip 21014 and with 156k miles +/- 10k miles.

So if you have seen any ZHPs for sale that meet the criteria, let me know with a PM.

I need to pay off the personal loan I owe the credit union and part out the car. Then repeat the process with a newer car, or another personal loan. Only two days left in Cabo. Then the search is on.

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[328ioc]

Damn. Definitely appeal that it should be worth more. I'll see if I can find any cars in the area.

Enjoy the rest of your time in cabo.

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[Vas]

Planning on parting it out?

[cakM3]

Sad to see your ZHP get totaled Justin.....

[Sockethead]

Sad to see your ZHP get totaled Justin.....

Me too. I was so excited for you when you got it after all the crap you went through with your 325

[Hornung418]

Planning on parting it out?
Some of it. Gray interior, all kinds of nic-nacs. The stuff in my basement will be for sale too, tons of shit down there that I don't need. The car will be a racecar by mid-2015.


Sad to see your ZHP get totaled Justin.....
Yeah, me too. She isn't gone, merely retired from civilian life...

Me too. I was so excited for you when you got it after all the crap you went through with your 328i.
There are lots of deals out there now, I should be able to find something. I still have a Porsche 951 to test drive when I get back to MD. It's fifty shades of Guards Red, but it has a black interior and can easily be painted. Needs engine maintenance and suspension. Got a lead on some coilovers if it checks out.

And it was a 328i...:shifty

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[Avetiso]

So I take it you are keeping it? Glad to hear. I have a ton of spare 330i parts if you ever need some spares.

[Hornung418]

So I take it you are keeping it? Glad to hear. I have a ton of spare 330i parts if you ever need some spares.

Was yours front or rear impact, Dario?

You saw the pics I need the radiator support and the bumper frame. If you can cut the fender support section fore of the shock tower (driver side) that should be what I need to get it started.

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[mbeckel]

Was yours front or rear impact, Dario?

You saw the pics I need the radiator support and the bumper frame. If you can cut the fender support section fore of the shock tower (driver side) that should be what I need to get it started.

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Planning on keeping your zhp?

[Hornung418]

Planning on keeping your zhp?

Si si!

Read above :)

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[mbeckel]

Si si!

Read above :)

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That's awesome news! Finding parts to fix the damage shouldn't be too hard. It's going to take some work, but if it were me, I would go wayyyyy overkill

[Hornung418]

That's awesome news! Finding parts to fix the damage shouldn't be too hard. It's going to take some work, but if it were me, I would go wayyyyy overkill

Only problem is my lack of a garage to store things in and work on the car out of direct sunlight...other than that, I'm really good at taking things apart. LOL

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[mbeckel]

Only problem is my lack of a garage to store things in and work on the car out of direct sunlight...other than that, I'm really good at taking things apart. LOL

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Lol. That putting things back together is the tricky part

[alexandre]

Dario's 330i was front impact IIRC.

Insurance is giving you a great deal I think! Is the buy-back negotiable at all ?

If you're savvy with your parts purchases you should be able to keep a decent amount out of that $6k to put towards your loan :thumbsup

[Avetiso]

Was yours front or rear impact, Dario?

You saw the pics I need the radiator support and the bumper frame. If you can cut the fender support section fore of the shock tower (driver side) that should be what I need to get it started.

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Front. Same exact place yours was hit, actually.

[Hornung418]

Dario's 330i was front impact IIRC.

Insurance is giving you a great deal I think! Is the buy-back negotiable at all ?

If you're savvy with your parts purchases you should be able to keep a decent amount out of that $6k to put towards your loan :thumbsup

From what I've been told I can appeal the price given to me. The issue here is that I took a loan out with extra to cover the firat uears maintenance which has already been covered. What I have in my account is minimal, and with school coming up that is what gets paid first.

For me to be 100% happy, the loan needs to be covered completely with the buy back included. Which is somewhere around a value of $10.5k which as maintained as it was, mods aside, I think it would have fetched.

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[Hornung418]

Front. Same exact place yours was hit, actually.

Well shit.

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[Hornung418]

I miss my car. And who eventually ends up with the wreck is gonna get a sweet one. Going to see her one last time and get the new OEM parts off of her and replace with the OE parts. Submitted an email requesting re-evaluation of the claim for an increased settlement.

Still shopping for cars, but I have made contact with several sellers and will be testing a few of the options this week. For now, I'm driving a Dodge Avenger. This car is atrocious.

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[NoVAphotog]

I miss my car. For now, I'm driving a Dodge Avenger. This car is atrocious.


:crying

Good luck with the search and re-evaluation Justin!

[328ioc]

I thought you were going to buy back and track it?

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[Rovert]

I drove a Town and Country minivan. Things could be worse! LOL

[Hornung418]

I drove a Town and Country minivan. Things could be worse! LOL

I'm more comfortable with a van honestly. A car that I don't know is very difficult to get adjusted to.

Devin, that was the plan, but the pay out doesn't provide enough money to take care of the car if I buy it back.

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[328ioc]

Gotcha. That sucks.

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[Johnmadd]

Sorry to hear you can't buy back. Can you get those headers off by any chance? Not trying to be insensitive, just curious. :)

[Rovert]

Can I have the left over unburnt fuel?

[Hornung418]

Sorry to hear you can't buy back. Can you get those headers off by any chance? Not trying to be insensitive, just curious. :)

No.

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[johnrando]

Bummer. Hope you get something good soon.

[Rovert]

In Montreal, there's a clean 2004 Imola 6MT with ALL maintenance and E46 problem issues done. PM Alexandre for it if his friend doesn't buy it today if you're interested.

[Vas]

Sorry to hear.

[slater]

In Montreal, there's a clean 2004 Imola 6MT with ALL maintenance and E46 problem issues done. PM Alexandre for it if his friend doesn't buy it today if you're interested.

i have seen that car listed on another (local) forum - it looks really nice, and is a good deal for the price ($10K if i remember correctly). 130K miles i think.

peter

[Hornung418]

The auto auction where the car is being stored has treated this car with minimal care. And I'm glad it's not gonna be in my possession. As much as I hate saying that. It gets moved and shuffled around with a massive forklift and a tire at the end keeps the paint from being damaged...

Here's what she looked like after I pulled the ALs... honestly, I opened the hood and pulled the plastic covering off of it and the bumper cover fell off.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/04/e4a2y6ym.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/04/abuqazur.jpg

What I managed to salvage were:
MAF
DICE kit
Euro tray
Smoking package delete stuff
AL headlights
Hood and trunk roundels w/ MD flags
Sunglasses tray

And I think thats it. So anyone with gray interior want some cool euro pieces?

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[BCS_ZHP]

Justin, if the accompanying pic was $6K+ (Plus another $2K for me in a rental car for a month) with a new hood, fender, inner fender, bumper, headlight and no frame damage or suspension damage, your bill trying to fix your car would have been astronomical. Taking the payout & walking away was the right thing to do.
Bruce

15446

[Hornung418]

Thanks for the reaffirmation, Bruce. It was bittersweet to see her much worse than at the scene of the accident.

Three potential cars on the horizon. Going to look at one this Sunday.

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[NoVAphotog]

Shame to leave those wheels or were they damaged/part of the deal?

[Hornung418]

Shame to leave those wheels or were they damaged/part of the deal?

Front left wheel was damaged and not worth saving the set for the cost of a new wheel. Plus I would lose my trusty set of style 44s.

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[NoVAphotog]

Front left wheel was damaged and not worth saving the set for the cost of a new wheel. Plus I would lose my trusty set of style 44s.


Gotcha. I got myself a set of 44's following what you mentioned about them working well for the winter btw...

[Hornung418]

Gotcha. I got myself a set of 44's following what you mentioned about them working well for the winter btw...

Nice! They are a perfect wheel for winter. Easy to clean, 17 inches to fit out brakes. And 8 inches wide for easy winter tire sizes.

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[alexandre]

Let me know if you want a look-over on the Montreal car. Super easy to bring it down to the states (someone on here did it recently).

[Hornung418]

Let me know if you want a look-over on the Montreal car. Super easy to bring it down to the states (someone on here did it recently).

Send me a link please.

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[alexandre]

http://montrealracing.com/forums/showthread.php?873413

[Hornung418]

http://montrealracing.com/forums/showthread.php?873413

So that's a ZAM? No camshafts or management for increased power bump?

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[alexandre]

So that's a ZAM? No camshafts or management for increased power bump?

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Yup it's a ZAM. You're mistaken with our M-Sport variant though - ZAM's are ZHP's without the 6800rpm cluster. Everything else is the same. Cams, ZHP DME, etc. etc.

[Hornung418]

Yup it's a ZAM. You're mistaken with our M-Sport variant though - ZAM's are ZHP's without the 6800rpm cluster. Everything else is the same. Cams, ZHP DME, etc. etc.

Ah I didn't know that. I thought it was more like the Club Sport in Europe. It looks clean! But I'm unsure if it's what I can afford.

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[Johal E32]

What intake was on the zhp? Looks like a cosmos racing? I thought they did not fit 330 because of larger MAF?

sorry about wreck, that sucks. Hope all is sorted with a new car.

[Newjack]

Rest in pepperonis

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IBLOp8nijdo/U2cFqGAj_gI/AAAAAAAACGc/oRbfmCu2RDY/w1145-h859-no/IMG_20140503_093043.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VQGgcZdMBpk/U2cF1Y-JT5I/AAAAAAAACHw/NUSGqYp7NFY/w644-h859-no/IMG_20140503_112739.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EkgSaI2mZnM/U2cF3lPHw6I/AAAAAAAACIA/6xSdwyqmBSc/w1145-h859-no/IMG_20140503_112917.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rMuqDH3I3jc/U3GwMLZ9pUI/AAAAAAAACRE/jWpmF2Mwa84/w1145-h859-no/2014-05-12

[az3579]

Ah I didn't know that. I thought it was more like the Club Sport in Europe. It looks clean! But I'm unsure if it's what I can afford.

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His asking price should be in CAD. $10k CAD = $9,232.76 USD. :)

[Hornung418]

His asking price should be in CAD. $10k CAD = $9,232.76 USD. :)

Nice catch! Automatic discount lol.

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[Hornung418]

Rest in pepperonis

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IBLOp8nijdo/U2cFqGAj_gI/AAAAAAAACGc/oRbfmCu2RDY/w1145-h859-no/IMG_20140503_093043.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VQGgcZdMBpk/U2cF1Y-JT5I/AAAAAAAACHw/NUSGqYp7NFY/w644-h859-no/IMG_20140503_112739.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-EkgSaI2mZnM/U2cF3lPHw6I/AAAAAAAACIA/6xSdwyqmBSc/w1145-h859-no/IMG_20140503_112917.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rMuqDH3I3jc/U3GwMLZ9pUI/AAAAAAAACRE/jWpmF2Mwa84/w1145-h859-no/2014-05-12

When my car was clean :-(

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[az3579]

When my car was in one piece :-(

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Fixed...
We'd rather have a dirty ZHP than a broken one... :(

[Hornung418]

Fixed...
We'd rather have a dirty ZHP than a broken one... :(

Well...It's dirty and broken now.

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[az3579]

Well...It's dirty and broken now.

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:crying

[Hornung418]

Accepted State Farms Second offer. Finding a replacement car will be much easier now.

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[az3579]

What is the second offer?

[Hornung418]

What is the second offer?

Gonna keep that to myself. At least until things are finalized.

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[az3579]

Gonna keep that to myself. At least until things are finalized.

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Gotcha.

[Hornung418]

Got a car in sight. Gonna see it on Monday.

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[OtterEffect]

Hope things go in your favor, best of luck to you on Monday!


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[Hornung418]

So good news...I got the check. $50 shy of $9,500 made out okay. Basically drove the car for free.

Bad news...

smd.craigslist.org/cto/4646473282.html

This is the car I am going to see. However, I ran the carfax. Six owners, two salvage titles and the current owner has only had it for 2 months. And hes asking $20k. What the fuck is wrong with this beautiful car? I offered him $7k and told him that if it was clear I would only have paid, max, $14k.

And I told him to keep that junk in the trunk for himself.

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[Johnmadd]

Leather looks worse than mine at 155,000 2003 model. Junk in the trunk should face the other way for the reverb. Be patient bro.

[Hornung418]

It's a fucking Estoril E46 M3...the color in the pics looks amazing I'm gonna have BMW pull any service history for this car. And see if theres a decent explanation. I'm fully prepared to walk away. But this car has me feel in some kinda way.

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[Johnmadd]

But this car has me feel in some kinda way.

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Werd

[Imola.ZHP]

Yummy m3!


--Marcus

[az3579]

Where the hell do you guys find these practically non-existent Estoril M3's????? :shifty :shifty :shifty

[Hornung418]

Where the hell do you guys find these practically non-existent Estoril M3's????? :shifty :shifty :shifty
IDK, man...this one has service history in Bridgeport, CT...doesn't somebody I know live there?

[az3579]

IDK, man...this one has service history in Bridgeport, CT...doesn't somebody I know live there?

:shifty

[Rovert]

My buddy from E46F, Bimmerchop, lives in Bridgeport. I'm helping him find an E46 M3 too. LOL. Watch out. He might snatch one that you like. Once he finds a clean one he's pulling the trigger. LOL.

[Hornung418]

This one is in Southern, MD. Silver Springs to be specific.

[Newjack]

this one is in southern, md. Silver springs to be specific.

woop woop

[Hornung418]

woop woop
BTW...Going to the Ravens Game on Sunday...we need to reschedule "The Trip."

But...If you want to look at this car on Monday with me, I have off :).

[Newjack]

BTW...Going to the Ravens Game on Sunday...we need to reschedule "The Trip."

But...If you want to look at this car on Monday with me, I have off :).

Let me know when. I have to be at metro by 2pm, but I'm free before then. I just have to wake my lazy ass up before noon.

[Hornung418]

Let me know when. I have to be at metro by 2pm, but I'm free before then. I just have to wake my lazy ass up before noon.
Yeah...Well before noon. Probably leave here at 0900 to avoid traffic.

[Newjack]

Yeah...Well before noon. Probably leave here at 0900 to avoid traffic.

http://i.imgur.com/d0Jmt.gif

[az3579]

My buddy from E46F, Bimmerchop, lives in Bridgeport. I'm helping him find an E46 M3 too. LOL. Watch out. He might snatch one that you like. Once he finds a clean one he's pulling the trigger. LOL.

He definitely won't find a clean one in Bridgeport. :rofl
Hell, I don't recall ever seeing E46 M3's in Bridgeport, parked in driveways or on the street. I've seen one once, but I doubt that person lives here (not counting Charlie's when he stops by on our way to somewhere).

[Rovert]

There's one at the Audi dealer there. But they want too much.

[az3579]

There's one at the Audi dealer there. But they want too much.

You mean Audi of Fairfield? Fairfield is a very nice place. Pretty high end; it's expected they're going to ask a lot of money.

[Hornung418]

Drove the Porsche 951 this morning. Had a smile that wouldnt quit when the boost came on. I drove it for an hour and we went all around the county driving it in the twisties. Seller is comfortable selling to me, as I can do the maintenance and I will care for the car. My issue is, that it needs paint badly. So if I buy it, I will have the whole thing properly painted the newest Guards Red color 997+ models. Striped, primed and painted. Now whether that is in my price range is up to the business. Just have to shop around and find a place that does the best work at the best cost. Im confident that I can get the car for $4,500.

Now for the Estoril M3...I talked to the dealers and they cannot divulge the history of the car unless I'm the owner of the car. And that's a fucking travesty. It's title is marred because there is a mileage discrepancy. The vin for anyone who wants to look into this for me is:

WBSBL93402JR16413

It shows up in the registry as an Estoril Blue M3 made in 2002 with all the visible options matching the description. But the carfax is filthy. Gut says stay away. By I at least want to drive it and see. So 9am on Monday I will be heading south. Meeting up with Rob and then going to look at the car in Silver Spring, MD.

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[cakM3]

Drove the Porsche 951 this morning. Had a smile that wouldnt quit when the boost came on. I drove it for an hour and we went all around the county driving it in the twisties. Seller is comfortable selling to me, as I can do the maintenance and I will care for the car. My issue is, that it needs paint badly. So if I buy it, I will have the whole thing properly painted the newest Guards Red color 997+ models. Striped, primed and painted. Now whether that is in my price range is up to the business. Just have to shop around and find a place that does the best work at the best cost. Im confident that I can get the car for $4,500.

Now for the Estoril M3...I talked to the dealers and they cannot divulge the history of the car unless I'm the owner of the car. And that's a fucking travesty. It's title is marred because there is a mileage discrepancy. The vin for anyone who wants to look into this for me is:

WBSBL93402JR16413

It shows up in the registry as an Estoril Blue M3 made in 2002 with all the visible options matching the description. But the carfax is filthy. Gut says stay away. By I at least want to drive it and see. So 9am on Monday I will be heading south. Meeting up with Rob and then going to look at the car in Silver Spring, MD.

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Justin, I might be able to get some information on Monday for you :thumbsup

[Hornung418]

Justin, I might be able to get some information on Monday for you :thumbsup

Thank you, Charlie.

Jhornung328i@gmail.com is my email.

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[cakM3]

Thank you, Charlie.

.... email.

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If you want the info faster I can text you

[Hornung418]

If you want the info faster I can text you

Okay.

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[cakM3]

Okay.

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Texted you :thumbsup

[Hornung418]

Okay. Pls delete.

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[Hornung418]

My new car is gonna have an LSD...

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[328ioc]

Hmmmm///

[Rovert]

He's getting a Vette!! LOL

Or a new Mustang.

[Hermes]

My new car is gonna have an LSD...

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E30 touring

[Hornung418]

It's got red gauge needles.

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[Johal E32]

E30 touring

If anybody wants to buy an E30 touring, let me knowww! ;)

Red needles heh? I think you got the p-car..

[Hornung418]

The exterior is Alpinweiß.

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[Hermes]

How many doors

[Hornung418]

How many doors

Two.

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[Johnmadd]

:popcorn

[Hornung418]

Tires are 265s in the rear.

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[Rovert]

It has windows and front wheels. LOL

Common Justin. This is cruel. Dane could temp time you out for this. It's that horrible.

[Hornung418]

It has windows and front wheels. LOL

Common Justin. This is cruel. Dane could temp time you out for this. It's that horrible.

:) It's funny how many cars share similar details...

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[Hornung418]

It has an oil intercooler.

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[Hornung418]

It has a spoiler.

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[cakM3]

Good luck on your search Justin :thumbsup

[az3579]

Let me guess. It has an 8k rpm redline. :rolleyes

[NoVAphotog]

S2k............................................... .................bro

[az3579]

S2k............................................... .................bro

S2K's don't come in Alpine White. :shifty

[ELCID86]

S2K's don't come in Alpine White. :shifty

They do come in white though. Pretty ok car. Lots of mods that can be done. Not sure my old bones could take it for a road trip vehicle though.


Thumbs, iPhone, Tapatalk.

[az3579]

They do come in white though. Pretty ok car. Lots of mods that can be done. Not sure my old bones could take it for a road trip vehicle though.


Thumbs, iPhone, Tapatalk.

Yeah but Justin specified Alpine. So no 2K.


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[Hornung418]

Let me guess. It has an 8k rpm redline. :rolleyes

That's a good guess....

It's got black leather. Finally, no more Grey!!!

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[Oli77]

I don't know.

[Hornung418]

Yeah but Justin specified Alpine. So no 2K.


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I don't fit in them very well. :(

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[Oli77]

White Z3 Mcoupe?

[Hornung418]

It's got a sunroof.

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[az3579]

Can't say I know why we're still playing this game... it's an M3.

[Hornung418]

Can't say I know why we're still playing this game... it's an M3.
Shhh! You are ruining the fun of it all.

It has halogen headlights and amber indicators.

[az3579]

Shhh! You are ruining the fun of it all.




Awwwwww

[cakM3]

Whatever.......smh

At least you're having a great time with this Justin :)


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[Hornung418]

When you press on the gas, the car makes this funny sound, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pshhh, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pshhh, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pshhh." I think something might be broken. Hopefully the PPI doesn't reveal an expensive repair in my future. :(

[cakM3]

Too bad you don't have a sound clip of the car you're talking about Justin......

[Hornung418]

Yeah I might have to buy a go-pro...

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[az3579]

It has a turbo. (or two)

[Hornung418]

It has a turbo. (or two)
Still think it's an M3?

[mbeckel]

Still think it's an M3?
335i?

[BCS_ZHP]

I figured it out

EDIT: and won't ruin this series of 15 clues...

[QC_ZHP]

335i?

He said LSD though, I had the same thought. Im dying to know.

[mbeckel]

I figured it out
Judge Smails: Wellll...... We're waiting....

[az3579]

Still think it's an M3?


Considering 335's are out of your price range, yes...


... unless, of course, you've upped your price range or it's a really high mileage one...


Even then an M3 in decent shape is more than that, so you must be getting a killer deal on something.

[Hornung418]

Considering 335's are out of your price range, yes...


... unless, of course, you've upped your price range or it's a really high mileage one...


Even then an M3 in decent shape is more than that, so you must be getting a killer deal on something.
Getting warmer!!

[mbeckel]

Getting warmer!!
135i?

[Hornung418]

It has a functional rear diffuser.

[mbeckel]

It has a functional rear diffuser.
535i?

[BCS_ZHP]

I figured it out

EDIT: and won't ruin this series of 15 clues...

PM'd him, I was wrong.

[Hornung418]

:biggrin

[OtterEffect]

It can't be a 535i, his new car has to doors! My guess is a ZHP with a supercharged or turbo charger?


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[Hermes]

When you press on the gas, the car makes this funny sound, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pshhh, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pshhh, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa pshhh." I think something might be broken. Hopefully the PPI doesn't reveal an expensive repair in my future. :(

That's not the right sound, it's supposed to go:

braaaaaaaappppp, psshhhh, bbrrrrraaaaaAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP, PSSHHHH, BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP!!!!!!

[Rovert]

When I have two farts in a row that's the sound it makes.

[Hornung418]

That's not the right sound, it's supposed to go:

braaaaaaaappppp, psshhhh, bbrrrrraaaaaAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP, PSSHHHH, BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Doesn't burble. Little bit more refined than an early turbo.

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[Oli77]

Love those onomatopoeia! Very cartoonish, great fun. I like Hermes' best.

[Hornung418]

When I have two farts in a row that's the sound it makes.

Hahahahah!!

It has a five speed manual transmission. Reverse is to the right and down.

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[az3579]

Oh, I didn't realize that Porsche had a color called Alpine White.

944 Turbo. I would've guessed this a long time ago if I knew this color existed in their palette... :p

[Hornung418]

Hehe. Nice guess.

She's a 1987. The best part is that it has a three inch binder full of receipts and maintenance records.

106k miles. KKK 26/8 Turbocharger, and the entire M030 suspension from a 968 S. Former track car owned by a guy with way too much money. Easy maintenance bills totalling $7,000 for the most recent engine and turbo rebuild in 2010.

Car makes 245whp / 260tqs.

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[mbeckel]

Did you end up keeping your zhp?

[cakM3]

Enjoy your 951 Justin....I'm sure you're gonna have a blast driving it! :thumbsup I wanna see pics!

[Hornung418]

Tomorrow is pick up day.

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[Hornung418]

Did you end up keeping your zhp?

Couldn't afford it. It was in pieces at the insurance auction. "Mishandled with care," as it were.


Enjoy your 951 Justin....I'm sure you're gonna have a blast driving it! :thumbsup I wanna see pics!
Thanks, Charlie :-) Can't wait for my first track day.

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[Johnmadd]

:thumbsup

[NoVAphotog]

Tomorrow is pick up day.

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Congrats, Justin! New adventure thread or change the name of this one?

[Hornung418]

Congrats, Justin! New adventure thread or change the name of this one?

New adventure thread tomorrow. Cant wait for Bimmerfest next year LOL

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[cakM3]

Couldn't afford it. It was in pieces at the insurance auction. "Mishandled with care," as it were.


Thanks, Charlie :-) Can't wait for my first track day.

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:)

Remember....pics!!!

[Hornung418]

Already posted :)

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[cakM3]

Already posted :)

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My mistake....she's a beauty Justin!!!! Enjoy her! :thumbsup

Can't wait to see her next time I'm in the area :)

[LivesNearCostco]

Ooohhh.. turbo P-car!

[Hornung418]

Ooohhh.. turbo P-car!

Couldn't resist the urge. Found it a day after he listed it. No pics or real description. Just stated that it had 968 parts on it...and that if you had to check with your partner if you could buy it, not to waste his time. LOL! So I drove 5 hours round trip to check this car out on Monday night after several midnight phone calls the prior evenings.

PPI at 8:30 tomorrow morning and hopefully picking up tomorrow night...at this point I'm repeating myself out of pure excitement.

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[Oli77]

Congrats! Nice car, I'll be on the lookout for the new thread.

[Hermes]

louvers...

http://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/924-931-944-951-968-forum/388767d1254104939-where-can-i-find-a-louver-deutsch-nine-porsche-944-turbo-rear-vented-lexan-hatch.jpg

[Hornung418]

Of the rear glass separates from the frame, that might be an option. Can you plug the louvers incase of rain?

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[Hermes]

Strosek

http://www.pff.de/porsche/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=73031&h=3a9309348d92eba09d7d27a433c9af0b92422ad1

[Hornung418]

Strosek

http://www.pff.de/porsche/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=73031&h=3a9309348d92eba09d7d27a433c9af0b92422ad1
Meh. I liked the Strosek hatch when I was in high school, but the glass hatch just looks better to me. Heavy...but the car doesn't need weight loss when I can just turn up the boost to 23psi...

[Hermes]

What about at least delete the airbag wheel and find you a Nardi/MOMO?

Edit:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads19/momo+retro+R13219655641322790825.jpg

[Vas]

http://projectcars.kinja.com/the-longest-night-of-our-lives-another-porsche-944-hor-1619851396/+travis

[Hornung418]

Airbag will be deleted and I will need to run an eccentric hub adapter so I get some leg room. Looking to buy an OEM 993 GT3 wheel and the eccentric spacer next week.

[Newjack]

Airbag will be deleted

http://i.imgur.com/tFdO5ET.gif

[Hornung418]

It was an option in 86...standard in 87. Believe it or not these cars were the first cars to come with two airbags standard. Set the bar for safety! But I'm not trying to have a 27 year old airbag go off, crash or otherwise.

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[Johnmadd]

It was an option in 86...standard in 87. Believe it or not these cars were the first cars to come with two airbags standard. Set the bar for safety! But I'm not trying to have a 27 year old airbag go off, crash or otherwise.

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Gotta have the 3 spoke non-airbag wheel... it's a must!

[ELCID86]

http://projectcars.kinja.com/the-longest-night-of-our-lives-another-porsche-944-hor-1619851396/+travis


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[Hornung418]

http://projectcars.kinja.com/the-longest-night-of-our-lives-another-porsche-944-hor-1619851396/+travis


http://projectcars.kinja.com/the-longest-night-of-our-lives-another-porsche-944-hor-1619851396/+travis


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What's up? Try to not shift in the wrong gear...That's a sad story. Buying a short shift kit as soon as I get the car home.

http://only944.com/partscatalog/

Buying everything on this list except the sunroof cam, cup holder and the auto shifter boot. Great stuff from these guys.

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[danewilson77]

Congrats Justin. Looking forward to the build.

The friendliest forum on the planet!

[Hornung418]

Congrats Justin. Looking forward to the build.

The friendliest forum on the planet!
Thanks Dane!
Fortunately for my wallet there's not much left to do! Very excited to have come across this car already built the exact way I would have done it.

Things to make it mine are:

Newer 17inch wheels
Performance all season tires
Short shifter
Airbag delete and steering wheel upgrade (tall people problems)
Rear hatch rattle fix
Find the leak in the hatch...new gaskets should help
968 mirrors and door handles
Some sweet Porsche decals

Everything else is just regular scheduled maintenance, which is a lot for this car but it will be a very fun learning platform for performance driving.

The rental Dodge Avenger I've been driving for the past week is getting annoying having been subjected to turbo power. Also found out that I can make it a one way trip north and drop it off at an Enterprise in the area.

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[Sockethead]

Congrats! I always liked those cars... Had my eye on one about 15 yrs ago but the guys son totaled it...

[Hornung418]

Waiting for seller to pick me up from the Enterprise...told him to meet me here. Had to call and tell him oh well.

Hungry and have to use the loo.

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[Johnmadd]

...

[zhpnsnv]

very excited about this for you, Justin. Well chosen!

[Hornung418]

Just got back to my house. Got lost...had to pay a $30 toll because I got on the Penn turnpike with out a ticket...disputing that. Had to find 95S and finally got it on track.

Some guy in a Mazdaspeed3 wanted to race. Daniel is right, that crowd of owners, however passionate they are about their cars, are a supreme bunch of douchebags. Dude was on my ass with his obnoxious blue headlights and yellow foglights. Only because I did a lil ricer fly bye (because I like to hear the turbo noises) did he come at me. Jerks.

Anyway I'm eating dinner and then driving back to Towson. House/ Cat sitting. And its right next to work :-) no long ass drive in the morning for work!

Sadly this chapter in my life is effectively closed. It was short-lived, but I had a great time with the ZHP. Taken before her time :(

Enter the Porsche 944 turbo. 27 years old and 50 thousand less miles. The fun has just begun. She's a whore for maintenance...

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[Rovert]

Wow Justin you're living the P-Lyfe now!!! May all your dreams come true with this car and let it help you learn even more about the dynamics of motorsporting.

I kind of went for a go with a Mazdaspeed 3 tonight at the front of a traffic light on a wide open highway. ///M3 vs MS3. LOL. Don't worry I showed that driver where their place was. Behind an ///M3!!!! Muahahaha. But it was a quick little bugger!! It was never a speck in the rear view mirror when I quit after hitting 80mph. That car when tuned, I'm sure would easily keep up to my car in a straight. Maybe a good suspension setup could allow it to be quicker into and during a corner because of it's weight. FWD would be a bitch exiting apex aggressively I assume.

[Whitexi]

Very nice, I too am excited to see your progress with this one.

[Hornung418]

Thanks guys. New thread inbound Thu weekend. Busy with school and work. Maybe my cool photographer friends can take some good pics for me.

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[danewilson77]

Thanks guys. New thread inbound Thu weekend. Busy with school and work. Maybe my cool photographer friends can take some good pics for me.

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I'm too far away Justin!

[Hornung418]

I'm too far away Justin!

I'll pay for your room and board (free at my house) lol! You'll get your chance this summer!

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[NoVAphotog]

I'll pay for your room and board (free at my house) lol!

Hmmm...I'd be down for a ZHP/Porsche photoshoot!

[TheFinanceGuy]

Hmmm...I'd be down for a ZHP/Porsche photoshoot!

shoot- I want in on that!

[Hornung418]

944 photo shoot??

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[TheFinanceGuy]

944 photo shoot with ZHP's combined. Yes please.

Though, I'm not sure I'd trust my 944 to make it to MD at this point. The ZHP didn't even blink an eye when putting 1,200 miles on it in one weekend.

[Hornung418]

Timing belt is on my list too.

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[Newjack]

I want in on this

[ELCID86]

Justin, are there lots of 944 DIYs, etc on forums?


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