Hornung's ZHP Adventure

[Hornung418]

Dario, it's Bruce's old suspension from his SG coupe with 66k paired with Hotchkis Sport Springs.

[Hornung418]

Car is done. Need an alignment tomorrow. Tire is rubbing fender on the right front. Going to max out camber in the front and roll the fenders all around.

So far it looks good but im sure it will settle down some more :-)

No pics...car is filthy.

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[Johnmadd]

Can I get a current exhaust sound video? :biggrin

[Hornung418]

It is on FB...can't figure out how to upload to TT. :(

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[Johnmadd]

C'mon... I don't do Facebook yo! Lmao

[Johnmadd]

Link me please.

[Hornung418]

C'mon... I don't do Facebook yo! Lmao

Yeah I know. All of my privacy settings are limited so you can see it if you're lacking a profile. I will take an instagram video and I'm sure you will see it :-)

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[Johnmadd]

I do love the instagram lol

[Avetiso]

Yeah I know. All of my privacy settings are limited so you can see it if you're lacking a profile. I will take an instagram video and I'm sure you will see it :-)

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You're on instagram? WTF bro. What's your user?

[Hornung418]

The_Real_Canada

I barely use it because they own anything you take with it.

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[Johnmadd]

The_Real_Canada

I barely use it because they own anything you take with it.

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And the feds are watching :shifty

[Hornung418]

Pulled the alignment pins and maxed out the stock camber.

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[TigerTater]

Pulled the alignment pins and maxed out the stock camber.

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In the rear ? Front? Both? How much did u gain?


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[Hornung418]

The fronts. No idea how much I gained. I still need a fender roll.

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[QC_ZHP]

Dude I just heard the Bimmerworld spec exhaust. IIRC, you mentioned about getting it. Sounds so good, thought I'd share.


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[Hornung418]

Damn...Can't wait to get the M52 SS shorty headers.

I have opted against the M50 ones as they are cast iron and heavy and lack Oxygen Sensor bungs.

[Hornung418]

Bumper will be getting a full respray after bad prep work has caused peeling paint.

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[Vas]

If they were not going to cover it, I would have suggested my painter that I use. He did the front clip of my car and the results are amazing.

[Avetiso]

That's some crappy prep.

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[johnrando]

Good that they are covering it.

[Hornung418]

Changed out my rear grid for a new one.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/u6umymyb.jpg

Anti-rattle solution. Felt tape cut into appropriate shapes.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/14/u4amepyn.jpg

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[johnrando]

Rear grid?

[Hornung418]

Rear grid?

Rear parcel shelf. Right at the base of the window.

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[Hornung418]

Car has headers and recently its been stalling at redline and giving me the EML, DSC and Brake lights. Scanning tonight, but any ideas?

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[Johnmadd]

Car has headers and recently its been stalling at redline and giving me the EML, DSC and Brake lights. Scanning tonight, but any ideas?

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Battery?

[johnrando]

Rear parcel shelf. Right at the base of the window.

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Ah, I don't have one of those. Suspected it was something like that.

[Hornung418]

Car has been stalling at highway speeds and redline shifts. Read and cleared the codes, reset adaptations and now it runs like shit. Put it through some warm up cycles and restarted the car several times and the code still remains. It runs fine with the MAF unplugged, however you cannot use the Brake and Accelerator pedals at the same time...so rev matching is impossible. I have cleaned the MAF with the appropriate spray. Next step is to examine the intake boots. The codes didn't say lean or rich, just "Luftpfad" in the error read out, which means airflow auf Englisch. Included with that one were multiple cylinder misfires.

Any thoughts on this one?? I will try to get the actual code numbers when this storm passes.

I finally picked up the fender roller after I figured out how to get it running. So I will be doing that tomorrow after I replace the spark plugs and get the intake track cleaned and repaired. I have spare intake boots from the failed MS43 conversion on the 328i.

[az3579]

Just wanted to give you a heads up about the MAF. The MAF on our cars cannot be cleaned. It's a "hot film" type sensor, and must be replaced when it gives issues.

I also unplugged my MAF to try to troubleshoot and found that my car ran like a bat out of hell with it unplugged. Ultimately I ended up replacing it yesterday and cleared the adaptations. Runs buttery smooth now.

When the MAF was bad, I had jerky acceleration below 2k and had one hell if a nasty vibration around 3-4k under hard acceleration in first gear. The new MAF fixed all of that, despite not always having a MAF code. (Had it at one point, cleared the codes, and the MAF code didn't come back but the lean codes did).

The MAF could still very well be an issue even if you don't have codes for it.


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[danewilson77]

Why can a hot film type sensor NOT be cleaned?

The friendliest forum on the planet.

[Hornung418]

Great insight, BP. I have been experiencing a nasty power dip at 2000 rpm. I will be doing all the regular maintenance tomorrow.

Plugs, replacing the boots and intake cleaning. I will attempt to clean the MAF again despite your warnings in hopes of not having to buy a new one...cash is tight for stupid failures.

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[johnrando]

How much is a new MAF.... and does it need to be OEM?

[az3579]

Why can a hot film type sensor NOT be cleaned?

The friendliest forum on the planet.

My BMW tech friend as well as various posts online seem to agree that attempting to clean this kind of MAF actually destroys the film. My friend explained in greater detail at one point but digging through my texts to find the info will be like trying to find a needle in a haystack...


Great insight, BP. I have been experiencing a nasty power dip at 2000 rpm. I will be doing all the regular maintenance tomorrow.

Plugs, replacing the boots and intake cleaning. I will attempt to clean the MAF again despite your warnings in hopes of not having to buy a new one...cash is tight for stupid failures.

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I thought I could get around it as well but I was very wrong. I tried everything under the sun except for replacing the MAF and failed miserably.
Make sure your MAF is to blame, of course, before ordering one. It is indeed a very expensive purchase and technically I couldn't afford to buy one either, but I bit the bullet and seriously cut into the Calabogie trip budget for this weekend to ensure I'm not running my car lean at full tilt (I had lean codes for both banks before the MAF change and everything else that causes lean was already addressed except for manifold gaskets).

Good luck with the cleaning... most people say it improves temporarily and the issue comes right back, sometimes comes back worse.


How much is a new MAF.... and does it need to be OEM?

Between $350 and $550, depending on where you buy. Buy online for the best price, and buy Genuine BMW.

[Hornung418]

Didn't work. Ordered a new MAF. Should be at the dealer in an hour.

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[az3579]

Didn't work. Ordered a new MAF. Should be at the dealer in an hour.

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I hope the new MAF fixes the issue. How much did you end up paying, if you don't mind my asking?


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[Hornung418]

Not sure yet. They are cuting me a deal though. It's less than $350 I think.

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[Hornung418]

So with all of this in mind. Today I replaced all six spark plugs, the throttle body, the ICV and the intake boots to no avail. As a last resort I am replacing the MAF sensor.

And the code I'm getting is P16A7.

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[danewilson77]

Ok. I've cleaned mine at least a dozen times over the last 100k miles. Hopefully mine isn't on the brink of failure.

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[E_Rak]

Guys, Hyundai maf, look at that before dropping the big bucks

[Hornung418]

Ok. I've cleaned mine at least a dozen times over the last 100k miles. Hopefully mine isn't on the brink of failure.

The friendliest forum on the planet.

Yeah...about that. The techs confirmed it for me. The hot plate has a film on it so any kind of silicon or spray that isn't air can deteriorate the coating. And the PO had a K&N pile filter in the stock housing be for I swapped it for paper. I have a feeling that its not an immediate failure but its definitely not good.

So my bill today was $397.74 after taxes and a heavy discount. The new MAF element looked totally different than the old one. The coating was different and had a brownish hue to it. The issue is fixed and the car runs great. Guess the new plugs and boots added to that :-) all free of course.

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[Hornung418]

Guys, Hyundai maf, look at that before dropping the big bucks

Only works for the 3 pin MS42/43 MAF not the MS45.1 MAF.

Beleive BP and myself when we say we exhausted every other option before deciding that this was the correct solution.

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[E_Rak]

Oh okay, I stand corrected

[Hornung418]

Oh okay, I stand corrected

Its all good. Thanks for lookin out! :thumbs up:

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[danewilson77]

Ok. Maybe when i have money to burn I'll pick up a new one. At 200K miles, it can't hurt.

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[Johnmadd]

Someone should try this maf, website appears legit. http://treperformance.com/i-5856984-bmw-330-2000-2005-mass-air-flow-sensor.html

[Hornung418]

Ok. Maybe when i have money to burn I'll pick up a new one. At 200K miles, it can't hurt.

The friendliest forum on the planet.


Someone should try this maf, website appears legit. http://treperformance.com/i-5856984-bmw-330-2000-2005-mass-air-flow-sensor.html
Remember, it's gotta be the right part number. John, that MAF will only work for the 3 pin cars. The ZHP and other cars running MS45.1 need the six pin MAF.

OEMBimmerparts.com is the best place to look for parts, if I could have waited for shipping I could have bought from them.

ZHP MAF (http://www.oembimmerparts.com/BMW_Mass_Air_Meter_OEM_13627566983_p/13627566983e46.htm)

Need to add that to a sticky or something.

[Johnmadd]

Remember, it's gotta be the right part number. John, that MAF will only work for the 3 pin cars. The ZHP and other cars running MS45.1 need the six pin MAF.

OEMBimmerparts.com is the best place to look for parts, if I could have waited for shipping I could have bought from them.

ZHP MAF (http://www.oembimmerparts.com/BMW_Mass_Air_Meter_OEM_13627566983_p/13627566983e46.htm)

Need to add that to a sticky or something.

Good info man. Glad you got it running good now.

[johnrando]

Good to hear it solved your issues Justin.

[Hornung418]

Good info man. Glad you got it running good now.


Good to hear it solved your issues Justin.

Thanks guys!

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[Sockethead]

Damn that's really good to know.

[derbo]

amazing at your MPG too!

[Hornung418]

amazing at your MPG too!

Yeah...Here's the pic I took when I pulled into work. I will will a truer MPG after a full tank, but I drove in normal traffic conditions and achieved 18.1 as an average after I installed the headers. After changing the MAF, I got 24.4!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/18/evedy7u8.jpg

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[TigerTater]

What are you doing for CEL fix for headers?


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[Hornung418]

Probably gonna have them coded out. Dont have to worry about that for a year though. Next inspection is Aug 2015.

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[Johnmadd]

Probably gonna have them coded out. Dont have to worry about that for a year though. Next inspection is Aug 2015.

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I'm gonna black tape the inside of the cluster :biggrin

[Hornung418]

I'm gonna black tape the inside of the cluster :biggrin

In MD, the CEL has to show ready with key on, engine off. So blacking it out is an instant fail, and the codes will still show when they scan it if your light is on under the tape.

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[derbo]

I'm gonna black tape the inside of the cluster :biggrin

That doesn't work here. :( We need to plug in our cars..

[danewilson77]

Works in the VA for sure.

[TigerTater]

Yea we just started obd2 plug in for readiness here in Louisiana...sucks. Gotta have all monitors showing ready which you can't do with them coded out


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[Hornung418]

Yea we just started obd2 plug in for readiness here in Louisiana...sucks. Gotta have all monitors showing ready which you can't do with them coded out


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They don't give you a break on one monitor? If it shows N/A then what are they gonna do?

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[Johnmadd]

"It works in VA for sure" - Danewilson77
Werd-johnmadd

[TigerTater]

They don't give you a break on one monitor? If it shows N/A then what are they gonna do?

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Nope they don't. It's that the heater sensor readiness won't go green with rear sensors off


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[Hornung418]

So to update: before the MAF failed, it was showing soft fail signs and tended to lag when I would romp on the throttle. I almost felt sick thinking about what the issue was. Mostly felt like the clutch was slipping, as if there was a delay when the throttle was mashed and when the car accelerated. It lagged excessively under 4100 rpm when the DISA opens then everything was cool. It was bucking and dipped at 2000 rpm when it was a cold engine start.

As of the day I've driven it, the stumbles are from and the DISA dip and 2000 rpm dip are gone. The car runs like a stuck pig.

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[Newjack]

So to update: before the MAF failed, it was showing soft fail signs and tended to lag when I would romp on the throttle. I almost felt sick thinking about what the issue was. Mostly felt like the clutch was slipping, as if there was a delay when the throttle was mashed and when the car accelerated. It lagged excessively under 4100 rpm when the DISA opens then everything was cool. It was bucking and dipped at 2000 rpm when it was a cold engine start.

As of the day I've driven it, the stumbles are from and the DISA dip and 2000 rpm dip are gone. The car runs like a stuck pig.

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Your old MAF in a nutshell

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1477005/qwop-o.gif

[Johnmadd]

So to update: before the MAF failed, it was showing soft fail signs and tended to lag when I would romp on the throttle. I almost felt sick thinking about what the issue was. Mostly felt like the clutch was slipping, as if there was a delay when the throttle was mashed and when the car accelerated. It lagged excessively under 4100 rpm when the DISA opens then everything was cool. It was bucking and dipped at 2000 rpm when it was a cold engine start.

As of the day I've driven it, the stumbles are from and the DISA dip and 2000 rpm dip are gone. The car runs like a stuck pig.

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I know I need a maf for sure now.

[Imola.ZHP]

Damn, how many miles? I struggle to get 19mpg and I'm all stock.

[Hornung418]

Nearing 154k.

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[Imola.ZHP]

I'm nearing 126k, I'm going to put this on my radar.

[Hornung418]

Honestly you shouldn't have an issue unless you used an oiled filter or have cleaned your MAF with a cleaning product. I would avoid those products if you havent used them before.

I drove home with an oiled filter when I bought the car. I swapped that out immediately when I got home. I had to deal with some codes for the MAF on the journey back.

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[Hornung418]

Rolled fenders and shaved those bumper clip bolts in the rear. No more rubbing over bumps. Will probably rub a little bit in hard cornering, but not cutting like before.

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[derbo]

No pics?

[Hornung418]

Haha I figured it was basic knowledge, boy racer!

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[derbo]

Haha I figured it was basic knowledge, boy racer!

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LOL it is, but everyone loves pictures when you read threads! :)

[Hornung418]

I will snap some pics of my new stance next wash day. Probably Wednesday. Gonna break out the DSLR.

In other news, I smacked the shit out of a Mazdaspeed3 from 50-100. Beat him by three lengths.

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[derbo]

I will snap some pics of my new stance next wash day. Probably Wednesday. Gonna break out the DSLR.

In other news, I smacked the shit out of a Mazdaspeed3 from 50-100. Beat him by three lengths.

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I hate the local Mazdaspeeds on the racetrack. Every one of them I've encountered won't let me pass but I was faster than them :(

[Sockethead]

In other news, I smacked the shit out of a Mazdaspeed3 from 50-100. Beat him by three lengths.

That's pretty good. I really don't try to race anyone...IDK, my car feels slow as piss even with all the mods I have. Maybe it's because our other three cars have anywhere from 75-200 more HP than my car

[Hornung418]

He wanted to play, so I obliged him. His car makes 260 hp from the factory but it's turbo'd and has a flatter tq curve. Felt good with all my mods and such to beat a turbo'd car.

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[Imola.ZHP]

Honestly you shouldn't have an issue unless you used an oiled filter or have cleaned your MAF with a cleaning product. I would avoid those products if you havent used them before.

I drove home with an oiled filter when I bought the car. I swapped that out immediately when I got home. I had to deal with some codes for the MAF on the journey back.

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Nope, been the owner of my car for over 8 years now, an oiled filter has never gone in the car. I guess I'll switch back to looking at other things that could be causing the poor fuel economy, I'm pretty sure its a combo of a heavy right foot combined with all in-town miles. Thanks.

[az3579]

Only works for the 3 pin MS42/43 MAF not the MS45.1 MAF.

Beleive BP and myself when we say we exhausted every other option before deciding that this was the correct solution.

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Yep. :(


Someone should try this maf, website appears legit. http://treperformance.com/i-5856984-bmw-330-2000-2005-mass-air-flow-sensor.html

There is no way in hell I'd put that in my car. When it comes to important ignition equipment, I trust nothing but BMW parts.
I even thought about putting the VDO MAF in knowing that VDO is a good brand but still decided against it. Don't want to risk it at that point.


Oddly enough, Justin... my car still runs like shit below 2k rpm. It's jerky as fawk; it's impossible to drive smoothly and has become impossible to rev match on the upshift as well. I don't understand what the hell is going on... the codes have not returned in a week yet, so I know the MAF resolved that issue.

[Hornung418]

Oddly enough, Justin... my car still runs like shit below 2k rpm. It's jerky as fawk; it's impossible to drive smoothly and has become impossible to rev match on the upshift as well. I don't understand what the hell is going on... the codes have not returned in a week yet, so I know the MAF resolved that issue.

My car is running great. What's your engine maintenance condition? Anything nearing or needing replacement? What have you done recently before the MAF replacement?

I'm doing my CCV next pay period. I have a feeling it's OE and in need of the Cold Weather kit. I though about the catch can but there's no reason to redesign the system. I also need to do belts and pulleys I have a nice belt squeak when I shift at WOT. Looking at gatorback or Dayco W belts.

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[az3579]

My car is running great. What's your engine maintenance condition? Anything nearing or needing replacement? What have you done recently before the MAF replacement?

.

Everything is up to date except for cooling system. I can't believe I already put almost 120k on it since December 2010...

Regardless, there isn't a thing I could think of that requires maintenance with regards to performance. The only thing I skipped was post cat O2 sensors since they don't really do anything related to how the car runs...


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[Sockethead]

Reset adaptions after MAF?
Cam position sensors?

[Hornung418]

Everything is up to date except for cooling system. I can't believe I already put almost 120k on it since December 2010...

Regardless, there isn't a thing I could think of that requires maintenance with regards to performance. The only thing I skipped was post cat O2 sensors since they don't really do anything related to how the car runs...


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Reset adaptions after MAF?
Cam position sensors?

Yeah have you reset the adaptations? How about the E-Pedal adaptations? How are your plugs and coils? If the coils are OE, I would replace at your mileage.

$32.50 per coil at OEMBimmerparts.

What management software are you running?

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[Newjack]

Reset adaptions after MAF?
Cam position sensors?
This is what I was thinking. Although I don't know the exact symptoms of a failing can position sensor.

[Hornung418]

This is what I was thinking. Although I don't know the exact symptoms of a failing can position sensor.
A soft fail with no codes will exhibit extreme power loss (Limp Mode engaged), lopey idle and hunting. If BP can drive his car normally his issue isn't with the cam sensors. Although if he has the cash, new OEM sensors would be ideal around 200k miles.

[Hornung418]

Changed out my belts for Dayco poly W ribs. Really quiet and finally the correct length for my underdrive pulleys.

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[az3579]

Reset adaptions after MAF?
Cam position sensors?

I reset the adaptations with the computer, but didn't seem to make a difference. Today I unplugged my battery to see if that would do anything and it seems to have helped a lot. I'm afraid of it coming back though... it's a nearly damaging experience to my sanity. lol


Yeah have you reset the adaptations? How about the E-Pedal adaptations? How are your plugs and coils? If the coils are OE, I would replace at your mileage.

$32.50 per coil at OEMBimmerparts.

What management software are you running?

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Not sure how to reset the E-Pedal adaptations... would the battery dis/reconnect do that? If so, I did that today. Let's see what happens...
4 of the coils are original, 2 were replaced recently with used ones. It was on the list to do all 4 but dayum,

http://media.tumblr.com/5ab6927123017034e8c3eb1eab5d1a3a/tumblr_inline_mmsyzcOuXw1qz4rgp.jpg


Down the road it'll be done. Cam position sensors should be fine; the car drives and idles fine, just jerky below 2k.

Still clear, Justin? No issues resurfaced?

[Hornung418]

Broke her loose on the way to work. Drives perfectly.

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[ryankokesh]

Broke her loose on the way to work. Drives perfectly.

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Makes going to work that much more bearable.


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[Hornung418]

Am I dapper now?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/05/geme4umy.jpg

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[3ZHP]

Haven't heard that term since I left Buffalo, NY decades ago. Yes, it may pass for Dapper.

[Avetiso]

Yes you are, Justin.

[johnrando]

Very. :thumbsup

[Sockethead]

http://www.cs.rice.edu/~dwallach/dapperdan-t.gif

[Hornung418]

"I don't want Fop, Godammit! I'm a Dapper Dan-man."

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[NoVAphotog]

Damn, we're in a tight spot!

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[Hornung418]

Got an online coupon for $25 off my next purchase of $50 or more from Advance Auto. Took the opportunity to buy some new high beams...

Went with the Sylvania Silverstar ZXEs. 5000K temp/ 1600 lumen/ 55w. Super pumped to get them on. The current bulbs are of unknown mileage/hourage. Can't wait to drive home from work with these mounted.

[Hornung418]

Also...Vote my car into the Top20 please :) Who doesn't love free?!?! Link below.

BCRacing Coilover Giveaway (https://www.facebook.com/BCRacingNA?v=app_774027019292898&app_data=entry_id%3D64704367%26gaReferrerOverride% 3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fl.facebook.com%252Fl.php%253F u%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fa.pgtb.me%25252FvKD JmW%25253Fapp_data%25253Dentry_id%2525253D64704367 %2526h%253D7AQGYXdmzAQEm3KTfBWKAYa6QdUu-RbWvN9Y8PprvwSgbPQ%2526enc%253DAZO-RAHRTJB7ef4oaNyY-cYGtmoDeYwOw6fSP-gftSF-xPyxu0TOH2VW2Ohu-H77KQIOOQNIwS26id-nMFRLDXO2IMlqHqx2Xmz3wgIfsI9Ic5zxIOOjJXhbGDkh5ez2g x4eLjPQADR_CW5NHxbDmsLq%2526s%253D1)

[Hornung418]

Critical update. I'm in the hospital with airbag burns to my forearm. Will update later. Everyone in the other car is okay. Only issue is my wrist.

Car is most likely a total loss with the airbag deployment, but the body looks okay.

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[ELCID86]

Critical update. I'm in the hospital with airbag burns to my forearm. Will update later. Everyone in the other car is okay. Only issue is my wrist.

Car is most likely a total loss with the airbag deployment, but the body looks okay.

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Glad you are (mostly) ok. Keep us posted.

[Fenrir]

O.O.. Glad to hear everyone is ok and definitely glued for an update.

[Hornung418]

I didn't take pics.

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[Avetiso]

Sorry to hear. Get better man. Keep up posted.

[ELCID86]

When my daughter got popped in the arms by airbags she got really sore 1-2 days later. Arms were the worst. She had to skip the SAT. We sent her for a message!

[Hornung418]

It's just my left forearm. Not a circumferential burn. Its gonna be worse tomorrow. Not looking forward to changing the bandages.

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[NorCal-Dimitri]

Damn. Hope all gets better.

[Hornung418]

Only one way to from here. Lots of things to evaluate. I was just getting off of my shift. And driving the same route and way I always do. Something just gave out on me.

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[Whitexi]

Ann just showed me the pic you posted on Instagram. Sorry to hear about the accident man. At least your ok, hopefully car will be two.

[Hornung418]

Yeah I hope the car is gonna be okay. But I'm doubting it. Gonna be a rough month. Going to Cabo in two weeks. Burn is gonna be Hell in that scorching sun.

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[derbo]

Glad you are okay, but damn I just saw you post a pic of your car earlier..

[zhpnsnv]

Crap. Glad you're okay and typing about it.

[Sockethead]

Damn Justin you're having some bad luck with that car. Glad you're mostly ok.
Let Kris and I know if we can help. Maybe Kris can source parts for you...

[Hornung418]

Good morning all, thanks for the well wishes.

Going to check out the car in a few minutes to get all of my stuff out of it and snap some pictures.

Biggest concern is suspension/ steering components. Looked like the driver front was shoved back into the well. Then there's the potential frame damage. Everything else is superficial and I can source the them from the junk yard.

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[Vas]

Man this sucks. Hopefully the car is not totalled

[Hornung418]

Initial viewing.

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[Hornung418]

So basically, I left work and about half a mile down the hill, I understeered into the Lexus at 3000rpm in Second gear. I scraped into the rear of a Chrysler T&C ahead of the Lexus. It was just after 9pm and about 73 degrees out. Tires were nearing the end of their life expectancy but not bald. No idea why they didn't grip for the turn. What done is done. I will keep you all updated with the claim. I just hope I can get that stupid MAF out of th car and get my $400 back.

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[mbeckel]

Damn bro. I'm sorry to see and hear about that, I hope you heal up well. Good to hear there was no major injuries.

[Newjack]

This makes me so sad.

[Avetiso]

Crap.

[brettbimmer]

Oh man, sorry to read this latest news. Glad that you are alright (barring the airbag burns). Wish you the best repairing or replacing your car. Let me know if I can be of help.

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[Johnmadd]

Damn man, glad everyone is ok. That looks like they will total it, I would buy it back no matter weather it be to fix or part or use as spare parts... or strip it for racecar.

[Imola.ZHP]

Damn, looking at ZHP damage is so difficult for me. Glad your ok though, and everyone else involved. Cars can be fixed and/or replaced.

[OtterEffect]

Sorry to hear about this! Hopefully all will work out well for you! Is there a possibility that something might have been on the road surface?

[Hornung418]

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Headed downhill taking the turn onto Cromwell Bridge. The lights were green so no need to yield. Very possible the crosswalk reflective strips had some kind of effect, but the driving conditions were the same as usual. I just keep replaying the crash in my mind, trying to figure out how the fuck I lived, and what the reason for the crash was.

Thanks for the words everyone. I'm just glad to be here, the Vicodin helps with the body pain.

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[johnrando]

Sorry to hear. Glad all are Ok. Definitely a bummer about your car.

[Whitexi]

That really is crappy man. Buy back and part/ keep for parts if they total it.

[Hornung418]

That really is crappy man. Buy back and part/ keep for parts if they total it.

100% this. There is way too much this car. Plus we would swap the engine into my friends 323ci...

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[JupiterBMW]

Sorry to hear of the incident man. I will say this..Hopefully you have good insurance. Looking at that front tire pic, you'll almost surely be found at fault for this with the tires at the wear bars. Good luck getting things figured out.

[iZHP]

Wow sorry to hear about this bro. That's a nasty burn! I know what you mean about replaying the crash over and over again. I escaped death 6 years ago in a Jetta. Airbag came close, but I guess I was sitting far away enough that it didn't touch me. Was that the side airbag that burned you?

[Hornung418]

Wow sorry to hear about this bro. That's a nasty burn! I know what you mean about replaying the crash over and over again. I escaped death 6 years ago in a Jetta. Airbag came close, but I guess I was sitting far away enough that it didn't touch me. Was that the side airbag that burned you?

Only bag that deployed was the steering wheel. I took my hands off the wheel before the impact. It was full lock to the right and foot hard on the brake.

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[danewilson77]

So...the other vehicles were waiting to turn left?

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[Hornung418]

So...the other vehicles were waiting to turn left?

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Correct. Facing west in the scene picture.

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[cakM3]

Justin, just saw what happened.... very sorry to hear and see....hope you are able to salvage your ZHP and for a speedy recovery...

[az3579]

I just hope I can get that stupid MAF out of th car and get my $400 back.

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If you are required to put a part back in its place, I can provide you with my old MAF to replace it with...

[Hornung418]

If you are required to put a part back in its place, I can provide you with my old MAF to replace it with...

I still have the old one. No idea what the rules are for that.

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[az3579]

I still have the old one. No idea what the rules are for that.

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I know that when Joop totalled his first Alpine, he had to source a set of junker black seats to swap in so he could salvage his Natural Brown interior...
Of course, seats would be pretty obvious :dunno

Damn dude.

[Avetiso]

Justin, it's time for you to walk the path that I have walked. :rofl

[Hornung418]

Justin, it's time for you to walk the path that I have walked. :rofl

The car whisperer must teach me his ways.

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[cakM3]

Wouldn't that be nice if Justin could restore his ZHP? It would be nice to see for sure :thumbsup

[Hornung418]

Wouldn't that be nice if Justin could restore his ZHP? It would be nice to see for sure :thumbsup

Kpro just messaged me that Rob has a MIG welder...

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[danewilson77]

I still have the old one. No idea what the rules are for that.

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Those are the rules. You should get whatever you can off the car. Rims, emblems, shift knob, etc. For it being totaled, it just needs to roll....

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[Vas]

Justin, it's time for you to walk the path that I have walked. :rofl

The line where you don't own a zhp and no m3 in your driveway? lmao

Justin, good luck with the recovery. Hope it is a speedy one.

[cakM3]

Those are the rules. You should get whatever you can off the car. Rims, emblems, shift knob, etc. For it being totaled, it just needs to roll....

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If that's the case Justin then get your interior Silver Cube trim....I'm sure if you decide not to use it then you can easily sell the set...

[danewilson77]

If that's the case Justin then get your interior Silver Cube trim....I'm sure if you decide not to use it then you can easily sell the set...

Those were the rules with USAA when I totaled the TiAg ZSP. I took the graffiti trim and bought some cheap ass rim/tire combo to put on it so I could get my Enkei's. They were the wrong offset too. I could only get three lugz in each wheel. :)

Get the tools outta your tool kit, and the flash light too.

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[NoVAphotog]

Justin, so sorry to see and hear about this. Glad you and everyone were okay. At least the car got to show off at Bimmerfest and be with family.

Good luck with the insurance dealings and I hope a new adventure can begin again soon.

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[mbeckel]

Justin, it's time for you to walk the path that I have walked. :rofl
Judging by the damage, I could walk that path if at 100%. I would turn that into a racing beast! The platform is there

[johnrando]

Those were the rules with USAA when I totaled the TiAg ZSP. I took the graffiti trim and bought some cheap ass rim/tire combo to put on it so I could get my Enkei's. They were the wrong offset too. I could only get three lugz in each wheel. :)

Get the tools outta your tool kit, and the flash light too.

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Dane, did you talk to USAA first? I had a totaled car once and I (mistakenly) asked the insurance guy if I could get my seats. He said it was all property of the insurance company built into the payments so "no". I should have just gone and switched them out as they had no idea what was on there. I know because I didn't list them when I insured the car so I was not paying extra for the seats. Live and learn as I was young then and didn't know what to do. But, I'd think you want to do it quickly before they see the car and take pics.

[danewilson77]

Dane, did you talk to USAA first? I had a totaled car once and I (mistakenly) asked the insurance guy if I could get my seats. He said it was all property of the insurance company built into the payments so "no". I should have just gone and switched them out as they had no idea what was on there. I know because I didn't list them when I insured the car so I was not paying extra for the seats. Live and learn as I was young then and didn't know what to do. But, I'd think you want to do it quickly before they see the car and take pics.

No. I never told them I did this. They had taken it to the auction yard already. I showed up, and told them I needed to grab some items off of my car that had been totaled. They got a lull and brought it out to the street and set it down in the cul-de-sac and me and Justin wrenched on it till we had everything. Then....I let them know I was done.

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[johnrando]

Nice.

[ryankokesh]

Geeze man, so sorry to hear about this. Hope those burns are healing... :/

[Hornung418]

Doesn't look good for me in the end. It's been put up for a possible total loss. Only because the airbag has been deployed. The verdict will be final once the adjuster looks at it.

So if there are any ZHPs for less than $10k link them here please.

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[slater]

bummer, justin. the important part is that you are OK! the car is replaceable; you are not.

i would definitely buy it back and part it out if i were you.

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[Vas]

Doesn't look good for me in the end. It's been put up for a possible total loss. Only because the airbag has been deployed. The verdict will be final once the adjuster looks at it.

So if there are any ZHPs for less than $10k link them here please.

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Any preferences? mileage? year?color?

Here is one

http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/4606959640.html

[Newjack]

Any preferences? mileage? year?color?

Here is one

http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/4606959640.html

Why is that one so cheap? Is it because it was in New Jersey?

[Hornung418]

I am against a black car...but it may be the best option for mileage year and price. I will check into it.

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[Vas]

Why is that one so cheap? Is it because it was in New Jersey?


Good question Rob. Maybe cause it is black?

[E_Rak]

Hornung, there are loads for less than 10k, don't just give up :)

[Vas]

Good question Rob. Maybe cause it is black?

I was also against a black car but somehow black works very well for the 3 series. Mileage + year + price I would look into it IMO.

[Newjack]

Good question Rob. Maybe cause it is black?

It was a quick jab at how much I hate New Jersey.

[Vas]

It was a quick jab at how much I hate New Jersey.

Ha I am with you on that.

[zhpnsnv]

It was a quick jab at how much I hate New Jersey.

Hey now! Only those from the dirty jerz can jab at the dirty jerz! Keep to your crab cakes and football, punk.

[Hornung418]

Hey now! Only those from the dirty jerz can jab at the dirty jerz! Keep to your crab cakes and football, punk.

Lololol

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[Newjack]

Hey now! Only those from the dirty jerz can jab at the dirty jerz! Keep to your crab cakes and football, punk.

haha will do

[az3579]

Why is that one so cheap? Is it because it was in New Jersey?

Price is spot on to me. :dunno
These cars aren't worth that much anymore...

[Vas]

Price is spot on to me. :dunno
These cars aren't worth that much anymore...

This is actually true. Kinda sad so we might as well just hang on to them for as long as we can.

[cakM3]

Here Justin....a ZHP under $10k

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/4581246529.html

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[Vas]

Rust is killer though. Hopefully its not too bad

[Imola.ZHP]

Doesn't look good for me in the end. It's been put up for a possible total loss. Only because the airbag has been deployed. The verdict will be final once the adjuster looks at it.

So if there are any ZHPs for less than $10k link them here please.

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I would actually consider selling mine for right at $10k. I don't think I could part ways with it for a dollar less. 2 owner, 126k always garaged (even at work and school). Its not perfect by any means, but its been well loved.

Not sure I could afford to get anything else after selling it though, I'm house and student-loan poor right now.

[Johnmadd]

I would actually consider selling mine for right at $10k. I don't think I could part ways with it for a dollar less. 2 owner, 126k always garaged (even at work and school). Its not perfect by any means, but its been well loved.

Not sure I could afford to get anything else after selling it though, I'm house and student-loan poor right now.

Now we're talking!

[NoVAphotog]

This is actually true. Kinda sad so we might as well just hang on to them for as long as we can.

I mean...having driven what new cars have to offer I'm alright with that. They just do not build them like ours anymore. NO road feel, high tech features that don't really offer anything but distraction to the experience, all for prices that across the board are inflated beyond belief.

[Sockethead]

I mean...having driven what new cars have to offer I'm alright with that. They just do not build them like ours anymore. NO road feel, high tech features that don't really offer anything but distraction to the experience, all for prices that across the board are inflated beyond belief.

You are spot on, my friend. Our F30 is that... incredible engine and transmission in a mediocre chassis and the electronics piss me off. You really do anything, even the radio, without having to look at the display.

I paid 27K for my ZHP and at the time that was it's value. Cars depreciate, nothing we can do about that. It just makes it more affordable for those looking for ZHPs now.

[derbo]

You are spot on, my friend. Our F30 is that... incredible engine and transmission in a mediocre chassis and the electronics piss me off. You really do anything, even the radio, without having to look at the display.

I paid 27K for my ZHP and at the time that was it's value. Cars depreciate, nothing we can do about that. It just makes it more affordable for those looking for ZHPs now.

That's just the way it is. The minute that car rolls off the driveway of the dealership, its a depreciating asset. Sooner or later it will end up around $3-5k range and most likely stay there as the E30s have ended up in this area.

[johnrando]

Good question Rob. Maybe cause it is black?
Thank goodness Ness didn't hear that! [emoji1]

[Hornung418]

Hopefully getting a call tomorrow from the Total Loss dept. about the condition of the car.

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[johnrando]

GL!

[ELCID86]

Hopefully getting a call tomorrow from the Total Loss dept. about the condition of the car.

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Be sure to push back a bit on value of this model car, recent mods and maintenance. USAA worked with me some in the Accord.

[cakM3]

Good Luck Justin....

[Vas]

Hope everything works out in your favor.

[HokieZHP]

Saw this on instagram man. Hope you get it all figured out fairly and are able to get back in another one before too long!

[Hornung418]

Medical called back. I'm covered through State Farm to $2500 and then my Health Insurance will cover the rest.

Took the tags off the car today. The driver door wasn't closed all the way when I got there, we just had massive rain storms yesterday, so I'm curious if there is water damage now. I'm so annoyed with all of this. But now that I've scoured NADA and KBB it looks like my car is worth maybe $7k... So any damage that exceeds $4750 will probably total the car :(

Found this in my searches though...Click Here (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=21014&endYear=2015&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&maxPrice=10000&mmt=[POR[944[]911[]968[]][]]&modelCode1=944&makeCode2=POR&modelCode2=911&sortBy=yearDESC&showcaseOwnerId=578353&makeCode1=POR&modelCode3=968&startYear=1981&makeCode3=POR&searchRadius=300&listingId=369247277&Log=0).

[Vas]

Meh i would pass on a 944. Poor mans porsche.

[mbeckel]

You are spot on, my friend. Our F30 is that... incredible engine and transmission in a mediocre chassis and the electronics piss me off. You really do anything, even the radio, without having to look at the display.

I paid 27K for my ZHP and at the time that was it's value. Cars depreciate, nothing we can do about that. It just makes it more affordable for those looking for ZHPs now.
I feel your pain on paying that kind of money. I purchased my zhp when it was young.

[mbeckel]

Medical called back. I'm covered through State Farm to $2500 and then my Health Insurance will cover the rest.

Took the tags off the car today. The driver door wasn't closed all the way when I got there, we just had massive rain storms yesterday, so I'm curious if there is water damage now. I'm so annoyed with all of this. But now that I've scoured NADA and KBB it looks like my car is worth maybe $7k... So any damage that exceeds $4750 will probably total the car :(

Found this in my searches though...Click Here (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=21014&endYear=2015&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&maxPrice=10000&mmt=[POR[944[]911[]968[]][]]&modelCode1=944&makeCode2=POR&modelCode2=911&sortBy=yearDESC&showcaseOwnerId=578353&makeCode1=POR&modelCode3=968&startYear=1981&makeCode3=POR&searchRadius=300&listingId=369247277&Log=0).
If it's a zhp you want, there's plenty out there. Depends on what you want to spend

[Hornung418]

Meh i would pass on a 944. Poor mans porsche.
Isn't the ZHP a poor man's M3? I don't know if you know this, but the 944 is one of the coolest and best handling cars of the 80s. The Turbo is just that much better. And it's under $10k. My mom want's me to get something newer, with a warranty. I don't want to deal with a new car and the bulkiness of it all, I just want my sedan back :crying.

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[NoVAphotog]

Medical called back. I'm covered through State Farm to $2500 and then my Health Insurance will cover the rest.

Took the tags off the car today. The driver door wasn't closed all the way when I got there, we just had massive rain storms yesterday, so I'm curious if there is water damage now. I'm so annoyed with all of this. But now that I've scoured NADA and KBB it looks like my car is worth maybe $7k... So any damage that exceeds $4750 will probably total the car :(

Found this in my searches though...Click Here (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=21014&endYear=2015&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&maxPrice=10000&mmt=[POR[944[]911[]968[]][]]&modelCode1=944&makeCode2=POR&modelCode2=911&sortBy=yearDESC&showcaseOwnerId=578353&makeCode1=POR&modelCode3=968&startYear=1981&makeCode3=POR&searchRadius=300&listingId=369247277&Log=0).


Isn't the ZHP a poor man's M3? I don't know if you know this, but the 944 is one of the coolest and best handling cars of the 80s. The Turbo is just that much better. And it's under $10k. My mom want's me to get something newer, with a warranty. I don't want to deal with a new car and the bulkiness of it all, I just want my sedan back :crying.

Entertaining the e87 128i M-sport and other ZHPs.

Why can't insurance companies include sentimental value!! Can't you just pay the difference and get the car back? :begging

[Johnmadd]

Can you compile a list of what they are going for on Craigslist, maybe you can convince them with real world numbers. Maybe even show them the "what did you pay for your zhp" thread. Good luck... I would at least ask how much to keep it.

[cakM3]

Medical called back. I'm covered through State Farm to $2500 and then my Health Insurance will cover the rest.

Took the tags off the car today. The driver door wasn't closed all the way when I got there, we just had massive rain storms yesterday, so I'm curious if there is water damage now. I'm so annoyed with all of this. But now that I've scoured NADA and KBB it looks like my car is worth maybe $7k... So any damage that exceeds $4750 will probably total the car :(

Found this in my searches though...Click Here (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=21014&endYear=2015&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&maxPrice=10000&mmt=[POR[944[]911[]968[]][]]&modelCode1=944&makeCode2=POR&modelCode2=911&sortBy=yearDESC&showcaseOwnerId=578353&makeCode1=POR&modelCode3=968&startYear=1981&makeCode3=POR&searchRadius=300&listingId=369247277&Log=0).

Justin, that looks like a really nice 951... one thing to keep an eye out for are the timing belt changes....got to be done every 30k miles. These timing belts are rubber, not chain. Another thing to look at is the cooling system. You have to use Phosphate-free antifreeze or the oil cooler solder will break down and oil will begin to mix with the anti-freeze....not a good thing. Look out for those things....

If everything looks fine and the PPI checks out then you will have one very fun car to drive! :thumbsup This is not a poor man's Porsche. The 914 and 924 had that title.

The 951 was one of the Porsches I have wanted....improved interior/dash over earlier generations of 944 and turbo...:biggrin

[Hornung418]

Justin, that looks like a really nice 951... one thing to keep an eye out for are the timing belt changes....got to be done every 30k miles. These timing belts are rubber, not chain. Another thing to look at is the cooling system. You have to use Phosphate-free antifreeze or the oil cooler solder will break down and oil will begin to mix with the anti-freeze....not a good thing. Look out for those things....

If everything looks fine and the PPI checks out then you will have one very fun car to drive! :thumbsup This is not a poor man's Porsche. The 914 and 924 had that title.

The 951 was one of the Porsches I have wanted....improved interior/dash over earlier generations of 944 and turbo...:biggrin

Good info, Charlie. The timing belt was changed at 74k miles. It's now showing 117k miles with no recent service history for that job. I might be able to skim some off the top if I can land it. But at that price it won't last. I fucking want it though.

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[cakM3]

Good info, Charlie. The timing belt was changed at 74k miles. It's now showing 117k miles with no recent service history for that job. I might be able to skim some off the top if I can land it. But at that price it won't last. I fucking want it though.

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Then you can expect to change out the timing belt as soon as you get this car. Remember.....every 30k miles. If you're not religious on doing this you can expect very bad things to happen to your engine...I mean really bad things....

One more thing to look at is the water pump and the rest of the cooling system since you're running a turbo. Also check the turbo to make sure it does not need replacement....all I can think of for the time being....I know Prowlerflyer used to own 944s as well. Send him a PM and see if there's anything else I might have left out. I think if you get this car you will have a very fun car that you can also track and daily drive. Best of luck to you Justin!

[Hornung418]

Then you can expect to change out the timing belt as soon as you get this car. Remember.....every 30k miles. If you're not religious on doing this you can expect very bad things to happen to your engine...I mean really bad things....

One more thing to look at is the water pump and the rest of the cooling system since you're running a turbo. Also check the turbo to make sure it does not need replacement....all I can think of for the time being....I know Prowlerflyer used to own 944s as well. Send him a PM and see if there's anything else I might have left out. I think if you get this car you will have a very fun car that you can also track and daily drive. Best of luck to you Justin!
Thanks. And I know about the bad things...I overheated my '84 944 after I lost all the coolant because the radiator had a crack in it. Warped the shit out of the head and had to have the head decked and resealed. That was a shit box of a car. Would only own 1985.5+ 944s. My mother will probably not go for this car. She hated the first one...

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[Johnmadd]

Dude, if I was there I would be grabbing your shoulders and literally shaking the hell out of you. Buy back and "yes may I please have another?!?!

[Hornung418]

It all depends on what the insurance co. gives me. Should know tomorrow at 7am.

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[NoVAphotog]

It all depends on what the insurance co. gives me. Should know tomorrow at 7am.

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Fingers crossed here for you.

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[johnrando]

And? Was hoping to see an update this morning. Hope you got a good #.

[Hornung418]

Still need time to figure it out. They had noted that the agent had gone tk see it...when they hadn't yet. Calling at 3 to check for an update.

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[johnrando]

Ah, thanks.

[mbeckel]

Still need time to figure it out. They had noted that the agent had gone tk see it...when they hadn't yet. Calling at 3 to check for an update.

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Now I'm on edge for you! Hope you get some good news. Lord knows you deserve it.

[Hornung418]

Nothing yet. Told them to call me as soon as the word comes in.

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[Imola.ZHP]

I've only ever totaled one car, not at fault, back when I was still on a plan with my parents. They (my parents) didn't take the first offer (1994 Acura Integra GS-R) and told me to never take the first offer if ever in that situation in the future (I went off their insurance after this accident occurred). Insurance companies want to get away with paying out as LITTLE as possible. They actually make bonus's based on how LITTLE they pay out. So I would be leery of any first offer, ANY.

Good luck!

[Hornung418]

I've only ever totaled one car, not at fault, back when I was still on a plan with my parents. They (my parents) didn't take the first offer (1994 Acura Integra GS-R) and told me to never take the first offer if ever in that situation in the future (I went off their insurance after this accident occurred). Insurance companies want to get away with paying out as LITTLE as possible. They actually make bonus's based on how LITTLE they pay out. So I would be leery of any first offer, ANY.

Good luck!

Good information. I will be compiling lists of cars for sale and receive ntill sales this year of similar condition and mileage. Lots of homework ahead.

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[NoVAphotog]

What are the rules on being able to remove things from the car? Is that where buying it back and parting it out comes into play?

[Newjack]

What are the rules on being able to remove things from the car? Is that where buying it back and parting it out comes into play?
I think you can get away with removing stuff from the car as long as it is replaced with something as mentioned above. You can swap the new wheels with shitty wheels and tires with no tread.

I think parting the car out is only worth while if you know that parts of the car are expensive and hard to find or if you have mods on the car that when removed can be resold for a lot. For example if your car had a supercharger or turbo it would benefit you to remove that and resell it if its still in goof shape.

[Hornung418]

Yeah I have parts that could easily make back the value of the car. Interior and anthracite headliner for sunroof equipped sedans would be valuable. Emissions equipment like the catalytic converters that are in the basement and the secondary air pump. I can sell the BRAND NEW MAF for $350. The tinted windows and shadowline trim finishers are worth something. The steering wheel can be cleaned up, the SILVER CUBE TRIM that only needs one replacement to be considered useful. Wheels and suspension. Differential. Exhaust. The whole car stripped of its usefullness aside from the part that makes it go will be for sale. I will have it all looked at and if I can get the car back for under $1k, I will definitely do so.

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[Johnmadd]

Yeah I have parts that could easily make back the value of the car. Interior and anthracite headliner for sunroof equipped sedans would be valuable. Emissions equipment like the catalytic converters that are in the basement and the secondary air pump. I can sell the BRAND NEW MAF for $350. The tinted windows and shadowline trim finishers are worth something. The steering wheel can be cleaned up, the SILVER CUBE TRIM that only needs one replacement to be considered useful. Wheels and suspension. Differential. Exhaust. The whole car stripped of its usefullness aside from the part that makes it go will be for sale. I will have it all looked at and if no can get the car back for under $1k, I will definitely do so.

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Best news I heard all day!

[Johnmadd]

I had a tree fall on my e30 and after the buyback they gave me 1400-1800... and I still have full coverage on it, if I get it repaired correctly or at least to the eye the insurance adjuster will take note and pay me big bucks as the value goes up. And this car still has a strong lifeline!

[Johnmadd]

Btw, those headers would fit my car nicely :)

[NoVAphotog]

Yeah I have parts that could easily make back the value of the car. Interior and anthracite headliner for sunroof equipped sedans would be valuable. Emissions equipment like the catalytic converters that are in the basement and the secondary air pump. I can sell the BRAND NEW MAF for $350. The tinted windows and shadowline trim finishers are worth something. The steering wheel can be cleaned up, the SILVER CUBE TRIM that only needs one replacement to be considered useful. Wheels and suspension. Differential. Exhaust. The whole car stripped of its usefullness aside from the part that makes it go will be for sale. I will have it all looked at and if I can get the car back for under $1k, I will definitely do so.

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Gotcha, good luck with the offer dealings.

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[Hornung418]

Well I was in pain yesterday, and woke up today with immense back pain. Called out of work and I'm desperately trying to get a hold of my chiropractor for an emergency adjustment. Still nothing from insurance.

Looking at CPO'd 1 series for shits and giggles. What does everyone think of BMW DCT?

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[az3579]

Well I was in pain yesterday, and woke up today with immense back pain. Called out of work and I'm desperately trying to get a hold of my chiropractor for an emergency adjustment. Still nothing from insurance.

Looking at CPO'd 1 series for shits and giggles. What does everyone think of BMW DCT?

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The 1 series DCT isn't as good as the M3 DCT. It's softer and ever so slightly slower. But, it is also comfortable, so it really depends on what you're looking for.
Since your driving style is more dynamic, I'd say you're probably going to find it just isn't quite "perfect" in its shifting speed. It is a great tranny though.

[Hornung418]

I keep finding them listed as Manual and then I see the missing pedal and wut.jpg appears on my face...found a really nice 128i ZMP in Cali. Link inbound.

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[Vas]

There is also a 2004 zhp for sale in the Boston area. Mystic blue with dove grey. Manual with 129k on it. Asking price $9k

[Hornung418]

There is also a 2004 zhp for sale in the Boston area. Mystic blue with dove grey. Manual with 129k on it. Asking price $9k

Hmmm...that's my car again. Link pls.

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[Vas]

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/4614498481.html

[Hornung418]

That's nice!! I could convince all my friends that I got the same car lol.

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[Hornung418]

I keep finding them listed as Manual and then I see the missing pedal and wut.jpg appears on my face...found a really nice 128i ZMP in Cali. Link inbound.

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http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/BMW/2012-BMW-128i+Coupe-395f2edc0a0a00644fe24b72d03199c9.htm?geoZip=21014

[Oli77]

A very late "Sorry that this happened to you Justin". Had no idea, but got a hint from reading your posts on another thread so I came here to see.
Sad about the car but happy that you are alright and searching new wheels.

[az3579]

I would totally two-tone that mystic over grey... That would look amazing on that color.

[E_Rak]

Hornung, I'm in the area if you want a look at that mystic

[Hornung418]

A very late "Sorry that this happened to you Justin". Had no idea, but got a hint from reading your posts on another thread so I came here to see.
Sad about the car but happy that you are alright and searching new wheels.
Thanks, Oli.


I would totally two-tone that mystic over grey... That would look amazing on that color.
How do you mean? I have the exact same car already save the black cube trim.


Hornung, I'm in the area if you want a look at that mystic
I will send you a PM when I hear from insurance. Thanks for being awesome! :thumbsup

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[az3579]

How do you mean? I have the exact same car already save the black

I mean color match things the correct way just like the Natural Brown interior. Black carpet, dash, and center console. Grey seats and for the door cards leave the centers grey and make the rest of it black.

[Hornung418]

I mean color match things the correct way just like the Natural Brown interior. Black carpet, dash, and center console. Grey seats and for the door cards leave the centers grey and make the rest of it black.
Wasted time and money.

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[az3579]

Just like this:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/rookie975/DSCF3751-1.jpg

[az3579]

Wasted time and money.

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If you say so.

[Hornung418]

If you say so.

Yeah. If I had a black interior on hand then maybe, but I need a car to drive, not another project.

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[az3579]

Yeah. If I had a black interior on hand then maybe, but I need a car to drive, not another project.

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Let's just say I can provide said dash and carpet. But you're not interested, so...

[Hornung418]

Let's just say I can provide said dash and carpet. But you're not interested, so...

Not interested. I don't even have a car right now. Let's worry about that first.

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[cakM3]

Let's just say I can provide said dash and carpet. But you're not interested, so...

BP's just trying to look out for you Justin....

[Hornung418]

BP's just trying to look out for you Justin....
That's all well and good, but I don't need or want to mess with interior bits right now. Bigger fish to fry, as they say.

[cakM3]

That's all well and good, but I don't need or want to mess with interior bits right now. Bigger fish to fry, as they say.

Okay Justin.....looking forward to seeing what you have in store for all of us ;)

[Hornung418]

At the Chiropractor...the doctor is not in :(

Been waiting all weekend for an adjustment. Missing work yet again (State Farm will cover 85% of lost wages) but there is only so much I can do at home.

No word yet on the ZHP. Hoping to know later today, but I'm not holding my breath.

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[Hornung418]

Reading up on SMG repairs. :shifty

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[brettbimmer]

Reading up on SMG repairs. :shifty

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Haha...still reading...and reading...and reading... :biggrin

6MT what? :ducking

[cakM3]

We'll see what Justin's up to soon enough Brett.....

[Hornung418]

Haha...still reading...and reading...and reading... :biggrin

6MT what? :ducking

Printing off threads and repairs regarding SMG repairs, Salmon relays, S54 maintenance.

Then, over on Rennlist, I'm printing off threads about timing belt, water pumps, sealing the front and rear of the block, and clutch changes. Lots of reading to do while I'm in Cabo San Lucas.

Calling insurance in an hour.

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[brettbimmer]

Got it buddy! Have a good trip and enjoy the reading/vacation.

[BCS_ZHP]

SMG = Sucky (non)Manual Gearbox

[mbeckel]

SMG = Sucky (non)Manual Gearbox
+1 real manual transmission is where it's at, it's the way driving is meant to be

[Hornung418]

+1 real manual transmission is where it's at, it's the way driving is meant to be

:rofl...I know...but if it's priced right, I have to take it. Plus, the CSL transmission software is apparently insanely fast. Theres a few fixes out there for high temp SMG pump fails, which needs a simple resistor wired inline, and I can always switch to a manual trans with the appropriate parts found in the junkyard.

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[Avetiso]

SMG failure rate is highly overrated. Mostly hyped by 6MT fanboys who only offer anectodal evidence including but not limited to:

"My buddy had an SMG and didn't like it."

"My Indy said they are problematic."

"I want total control of the car." (Lmao at this one)

"Only girls get SMG."

"I don't want a computer shifting for me." Aw, mad it does it twice as good and three times as fast?

Or any other variant where a person wants to make them self feel like more of a man because they drive a true manual.

[Johal E32]

yeah but when they fail its lots of money.. you could 6 spd manual swap once the smg pump does, but eh. Just get the 6 speed from the get go. Different strokes for different folks

ant they suck on the daily grind, they shine on the track where the fast shifting is nice.

[Avetiso]

yeah but when they fail its lots of money.. you could 6 spd manual swap once the smg pump does, but eh. Just get the 6 speed from the get go. Different strokes for different folks

ant they suck on the daily grind, they shine on the track where the fast shifting is nice.
If the SMG pump itself fails, it's a lot of money. But that happens very rarely. Usually, it's other stuff. Hood sensor, salmon relay, tranny temp sensor, that $2 spring for the 3-4 issue, etc. The second most expensive fix is the accumulator, which is $450, or the gear position sensor, which is like $350. Both of those aren't that bad, and considering that M3 owners like to charge like a $3k premium on manuals (which is hilarious, by the way), SMG to 6MT swap is financially viable. Not only that, you can jump straight to nice parts, like AutoSolutions SSK and new bushings all the way around.

Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather get a manual, as well. It just gets on my nerves because I'm looking for an M3 as well, and tons of people tell me to avoid SMG like the plague, but the only thing they can offer is "my buddy with an M told me so," when I ask them why. RAGE.

For example, two Jet Black M3's listed FS in the bay area. One is a 2004 with 95k miles and is in cherry condition. It's SMG, and he's asking 16.5k for it.

The other is a guy from M3Forum. Car has visible dents down to the paint, a few decent mods, but is overall in far worse condition. His kind old soul graciously dropped the price to $21.75k recently. What a nice guy. All because it's a manual.

[Vas]

+1 real manual transmission is where it's at, it's the way driving is meant to be

I agree with this. Just alot of people go with smg because they are cheaper in the used market.

[mbeckel]

SMG failure rate is highly overrated. Mostly hyped by 6MT fanboys who only offer anectodal evidence including but not limited to:

"My buddy had an SMG and didn't like it."

"My Indy said they are problematic."

"I want total control of the car." (Lmao at this one)

"Only girls get SMG."

"I don't want a computer shifting for me." Aw, mad it does it twice as good and three times as fast?

Or any other variant where a person wants to make them self feel like more of a man because they drive a true manual.
Dang man! If you want a SMG, I won't stop you, I just prefer 6MT over everything else. I strongly feel I get the best driving "experience" with driving MT. But if you want the SMG, that's great, I just hope you don't regret not waiting for a 6MT car if that's what you really want.

[Hornung418]

Dang man! If you want a SMG, I won't stop you, I just prefer 6MT over everything else. I strongly feel I get the best driving "experience" with driving MT. But if you want the SMG, that's great, I just hope you don't regret not waiting for a 6MT car if that's what you really want.

It's all the sameone is just electronically actuated. If it breaks, swap it with Manual parts. No biggie.

But I've been doing a shit load of reading on the Porsche 951 Turbo S and it's performance capability...now I really want one. 247hp/243tq, the best part is that the car weighs 2990 lbs.

http://944turbo.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/forlunch_944turbocommercial.jpg

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[mbeckel]

It's all the sameone is just electronically actuated. If it breaks, swap it with Manual parts. No biggie.

But I've been doing a shit load of reading on the Porsche 951 Turbo S and it's performance capability...now I really want one. 247hp/243tq, the best part is that the car weighs 2990 lbs.

http://944turbo.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/forlunch_944turbocommercial.jpg

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No offense, not my favorite Porsche, but my dad had a 944 turbo and said I quote "that little bastard was pretty fast". This coming from a guy that's owned the who's who of muscle cars. You name it, he's likely had it. That's good praise on an 80's looked down upon Porsche. Go for whatever you prefer bud.

[Hornung418]

None taken. It's as 80s as it gets lol. No one really loved the 944s I don't get it, just because the engine was up front and had a radiator it got no respect from the Porsche crowd. Would love to own one again, but still waiting on numbers from insurance.

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[mbeckel]

None taken. It's as 80s as it gets lol. No one really loved the 944s I don't get it, just because the engine was up front and had a radiator it got no respect from the Porsche crowd. Would love to own one again, but still waiting on numbers from insurance.

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I wouldn't do anything til the finances are figured out, and would wait a little after that, take your time and make the right choice.

[zhpnsnv]

SMG failure rate is highly overrated. Mostly hyped by 6MT fanboys who only offer anectodal evidence including but not limited to:

"My buddy had an SMG and didn't like it."

"My Indy said they are problematic."

"I want total control of the car." (Lmao at this one)

"Only girls get SMG."

"I don't want a computer shifting for me." Aw, mad it does it twice as good and three times as fast?

Or any other variant where a person wants to make them self feel like more of a man because they drive a true manual.

Being a true man who drives manual, I would never consider SMG. Firstly, I don't need a computer to do things for me. I regularly check e-mail with my own brain by tapping into the matrix like Neo himself. Secondly, I want to have total, pure control of the car, though park assist would be epic. Thirdly, complicated parts mean complicated fixes; I'd rather worry myself with simple fixes like welding the subframe, reconfiguring the cooling system, and adjusting valves with my eyes closed every 7 miles. Fourthly, all of my friends who use the internet say SMG is terrible, and I believe everything my friends say they read on the internet.

In sum, no SMG for me. :)

Joking aside -- I've never driven it. How's the experience?

[Hornung418]

I wouldn't do anything til the finances are figured out, and would wait a little after that, take your time and make the right choice.

Yeah got a week and a half of vacation coming up. Going to let it all sink in and make an educated decision.

My thoughts are this: buy back ZHP and part it out. Pay off my loan with the CU with the funds from the pay out. That will put me in good standing with them. Apply for a new auto loan. Possibly a CPO'd BMW or similar. Or if I find a car for a better deal, take another personal loan out.

Both financing options will provide an extremely low interest rate. Best part is, my ZHP will still be around and making some cash from the part out. When it's fixed it will be a track car, eventually making my way into the Spec racing series.

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[Hornung418]

Lol, Marc, I thought you would have driven at least one SMG BMW! When I test the one I'm looking at I will report back.

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[mbeckel]

Yeah got a week and a half of vacation coming up. Going to let it all sink in and make an educated decision.

My thoughts are this: buy back ZHP and part it out. Pay off my loan with the CU with the funds from the pay out. That will put me in good standing with them. Apply for a new auto loan. Possibly a CPO'd BMW or similar. Or if I find a car for a better deal, take another personal loan out.

Both financing options will provide an extremely low interest rate. Best part is, my ZHP will still be around and making some cash from the part out. When it's fixed it will be a track car, eventually making my way into the Spec racing series.

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You got it figured out. I like your thinking with your zhp