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Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 01:19 PM
This is a long story of my zhp's trip to bimmerfest east 2013.

I was driving from Williamsburg VA to codys house in Pa and got stuck in dc traffic and the battery warning light came on and was red. I kept going hoping it was the battery and I could make it there. I got to his exit and the dsc/abs/brake lights come on, I'm about five minutes away and the speedo and rpm gauges stick at 60 mph as I come to a stop, I'm getting worried but keep going. Then the eml light comes on and I lose probably 95 percent throttle. I get within eyes sight of his house and that was where it stopped. I call cody and he and brett come pick me up and we go to buy a towstrap so we can use his wifes jeep to get it to his house.

Test shows battery good but low, all signs point to alternator. We then went to advance auto for a new alternator. Get it back and its got the wrong plug. Codys wife katie then races me back to see about another one, it was wrong also. At this point I knew I would be riding with someone to bimmerfest.

The next day, brett and I leave early from bimmerfest to go get alternator from bmw of bel air. The guy working there gave me one and said its what they always use on e46 cars. We get back to the house and wrong again. I had to use my old voltage regulator with the new alternator to fit my car harness. Everything seemed good. Next morning we go to breakfast and the go karting, everything seems good.

We were done karting and said goodbye and split up to go home, 10 minutes down the road my battery light comes on. I go to advance auto for them to check my charging system and battery. They check my battery and it shows good with low charge, they cannot cbeck the alternator without a fully charged battery. I buy a new battery and the alternator tests bad. I check into a hotel for the night and plan on going to bmw of york the next day.

The next day I go to bmw and they diagnose the problem as bad voltage regulator. :facepalm they order me a new one according to my vin and say it will here the next day around lunch time. I check in to another hotel for the night. I go back the next day after buying tools to do the work and the parts truck is stuck in traffic. I finally get the new regulator at 3:30 and it is wrong. At this point I tell them my story and I just need to get home. They pull an alternator of the shelf that had the right regulator and take that one off and trade me for the wrong one they gave me. I then go find a parking lot to do the work.

I got home with no issues. I will post a picture of both regulators. The old regulator had plenty of bite left on it so I'm thinking it was an internal failure. If anyone ever needs advice or info on alternators just ask.

TomTomTuning
07-27-2013, 01:25 PM
Yikes, I was wondering what happened after the show. Glad you eventually got it taken care of, it's one hell of a story!

danewilson77
07-27-2013, 01:27 PM
Damn John. Not a story for the weak.

Glad it's sorted now.

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saace7
07-27-2013, 01:28 PM
Curious. How many miles were on the part before it went out? Might be good PM.

ELCID86
07-27-2013, 01:41 PM
Wow. How frustrating. Glad you got it sorted out (eventually). All is in order now?


Shawn in VA.
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Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 01:51 PM
Curious. How many miles were on the part before it went out? Might be good PM.

123, 500 miles... alt is good vr is bad,

Wow. How frustrating. Glad you got it sorted out (eventually). All is in order now?


Shawn in VA.
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All is good now


Yikes, I was wondering what happened after the show. Glad you eventually got it taken care of, it's one hell of a story!


Damn John. Not a story for the weak.

Glad it's sorted now.

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Thanks guys.

Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 01:53 PM
Here is a side by side of the wrong new one on the left and the bad original. Looks good to me, what do you guys think.

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc407/johnmadd1979/20130727_174612.jpg

danewilson77
07-27-2013, 02:58 PM
The plug jack looks different.

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Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 03:10 PM
The plug jack looks different.

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That was much of the confusion for the dealer. The brushes look plenty good on the old is what I was pointing out also.

Hornung418
07-27-2013, 04:41 PM
So did you go back to my dealer on the way home or did you make it that far?

Sorry the car picked the worst time to poop out on you, John :( glad its all fixed though. I vaguely remember saying it could be the VR...but that part isn't available for resale, right?

From a GS3, this was sent.

brewer90
07-27-2013, 04:58 PM
What a bummer. It sure sucks being broken down on the road away from home. I'm glad you got it sorted out.

az3579
07-27-2013, 05:40 PM
Charlie had the same exact issue. He ordered a voltage regular by VIN and received a different connector than what he had.

This must be a problem with ZHPs... does anyone else have the different connector?

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Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 06:15 PM
So did you go back to my dealer on the way home or did you make it that far?

Sorry the car picked the worst time to poop out on you, John :( glad its all fixed though. I vaguely remember saying it could be the VR...but that part isn't available for resale, right?

From a GS3, this was sent.
Went to the one in York. It sucked man.

brettbimmer
07-27-2013, 06:17 PM
Glad that you finally made it home on your own power John. So sorry to hear that it took so long (and with so much additional effort and expense) to get there. You are now an expert on the alternators and voltage regulators. Any chance you can post the proper part number for the voltage regulator needed to fit the ZHPs (oval plug)?

Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 06:18 PM
What a bummer. It sure sucks being broken down on the road away from home. I'm glad you got it sorted out.

Yeah man, it would have been $75 and order new part from turner for $200 and done. Instead of that it ultimately ended up with me down $2000 in the trip I figured to be around $300.

Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 06:20 PM
Charlie had the same exact issue. He ordered a voltage regular by VIN and received a different connector than what he had.

This must be a problem with ZHPs... does anyone else have the different connector?

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We need to get this figured out. Bmw computer system and bentley manual both show rectangular plug and not the oval.

Johnmadd
07-27-2013, 06:27 PM
Glad that you finally made it home on your own power John. So sorry to hear that it took so long (and with so much additional effort and expense) to get there. You are now an expert on the alternators and voltage regulators. Any chance you can post the proper part number for the voltage regulator needed to fit the ZHPs (oval plug)?

Thanks for all your help bro. Here is the oval plug vr number

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc407/johnmadd1979/20130727_222529.jpg

alexandre
07-28-2013, 09:00 AM
Charlie had the same exact issue. He ordered a voltage regular by VIN and received a different connector than what he had.

This must be a problem with ZHPs... does anyone else have the different connector?

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Some 2003 ZHP's got this weird Z4 alternator. I've had the same problem - my car has the oval plug as well.

BMW alternator P/N is 12317519620. Bosch AL 0816X.

brettbimmer
07-28-2013, 01:09 PM
Ok, so my ZHP is technically a 2004 model, (late 2003 production), and I have the same regulator plug - half-flat/half-rounded.