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06-05-2013, 03:09 PM
So after switching tire sizes to a squared out 245/40/18 set up and regulating tire pressure, we ended up getting the car a LOT more dialed in and easier to control. It was easier to pivot, and while it still understeers, there's a NOTICEABLE difference. dare say it's fairly neutral if driven right..
Wife and I were talking and we were contemplating on the progression of the car. We kind of went back and forth with the potentially trading her car (the ZHP as she’s taken over payments) in for an e46 m3. She drove a student’s car at the Novice school we instructed down here in San Diego and she was instantly in love. The biggest difference of course was the ability to lay down the power via the limited slip and it’s aggressive turn in capability. But more noticeably (and near the point of what could be considered blasphemous) Kristen mentioned that the ZHP is impressively similar in behavior. This got us thinking about just paying off the car and building it out rather than get into yet another car payment and reset the clock. Of course since my e36 is becoming more and more closer to a full race car, we may not have a choice but to look into something as a daily eventually, but we’ll figure that out later.
She’s currently running DS (instead of RTR because she likes the crowd in DS better). It’s a personal thing. Those familiar with SCCA classes, they allow R-comps in stock classes. On Federal 595SS’s (240TW), she’s totally outgunned tire wise and trails the pack by about 1.5-2 seconds. This is expected with the tire issue. Since wifey likes driving on street tires, but doesn’t want to run the RTR class, we contemplating jumping the car into STX next year.
The first thing we want to address is the limited slip. Being able to get the power down to both wheels will drastically help the car power out of the corners. For those that have driven in san diego, you know the Qualcomm parking lot is a mess and the surface is horrible.
Next thing we’d like to do is suspension. This brings forth an interesting discussion.
We saw kits from the usual Bilstein/H&R, Koni/Eibach, etc, but I am wondering if these are worth the price in terms of performance and price. The ZHP already handles very impressively from the factory with our newfound tire settings. While sure, STX will be a hard fought battle (especially with lighter cars on coilovers, I can’t help but think that she could do well locally. As is she didn’t get last in RTR at the San Diego national tour driving on those Federals. There’s a lot of driving talent there. The eventual plan would be to get the car on AST4150 and some 650/700lb springs, but that’s just not in the cards budget wise. I guess the question is: Would the drop springs and sport shocks be worth our time? Would it be a noticeable difference in performance or is it only marginally so making the investment to this not a wise one. I can see it making a difference on a stock E46 330, but we do have a better ‘base’ to start off with.
Lastly we’d want to run 17x8.5 or 17x9 and a 245/255 series tire and a set of Hawk pads to give the car more stopping power. We are actually very impressed with the longevity/performance characteristics of the Federal 595SS and will try their Federal 595RSR variant (140TW).
What do you guys think? It’s not a full prep per se, but it does keep the drivability of the car and allows it to be used on road trips. More importantly it allows us to build it on a budget without having to spend thousands and thousands on parts. Thoughts? :grooving
Wife and I were talking and we were contemplating on the progression of the car. We kind of went back and forth with the potentially trading her car (the ZHP as she’s taken over payments) in for an e46 m3. She drove a student’s car at the Novice school we instructed down here in San Diego and she was instantly in love. The biggest difference of course was the ability to lay down the power via the limited slip and it’s aggressive turn in capability. But more noticeably (and near the point of what could be considered blasphemous) Kristen mentioned that the ZHP is impressively similar in behavior. This got us thinking about just paying off the car and building it out rather than get into yet another car payment and reset the clock. Of course since my e36 is becoming more and more closer to a full race car, we may not have a choice but to look into something as a daily eventually, but we’ll figure that out later.
She’s currently running DS (instead of RTR because she likes the crowd in DS better). It’s a personal thing. Those familiar with SCCA classes, they allow R-comps in stock classes. On Federal 595SS’s (240TW), she’s totally outgunned tire wise and trails the pack by about 1.5-2 seconds. This is expected with the tire issue. Since wifey likes driving on street tires, but doesn’t want to run the RTR class, we contemplating jumping the car into STX next year.
The first thing we want to address is the limited slip. Being able to get the power down to both wheels will drastically help the car power out of the corners. For those that have driven in san diego, you know the Qualcomm parking lot is a mess and the surface is horrible.
Next thing we’d like to do is suspension. This brings forth an interesting discussion.
We saw kits from the usual Bilstein/H&R, Koni/Eibach, etc, but I am wondering if these are worth the price in terms of performance and price. The ZHP already handles very impressively from the factory with our newfound tire settings. While sure, STX will be a hard fought battle (especially with lighter cars on coilovers, I can’t help but think that she could do well locally. As is she didn’t get last in RTR at the San Diego national tour driving on those Federals. There’s a lot of driving talent there. The eventual plan would be to get the car on AST4150 and some 650/700lb springs, but that’s just not in the cards budget wise. I guess the question is: Would the drop springs and sport shocks be worth our time? Would it be a noticeable difference in performance or is it only marginally so making the investment to this not a wise one. I can see it making a difference on a stock E46 330, but we do have a better ‘base’ to start off with.
Lastly we’d want to run 17x8.5 or 17x9 and a 245/255 series tire and a set of Hawk pads to give the car more stopping power. We are actually very impressed with the longevity/performance characteristics of the Federal 595SS and will try their Federal 595RSR variant (140TW).
What do you guys think? It’s not a full prep per se, but it does keep the drivability of the car and allows it to be used on road trips. More importantly it allows us to build it on a budget without having to spend thousands and thousands on parts. Thoughts? :grooving